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Naja_Kaouthia , to memes in There's a reason he was shot.
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Pictured: The moment everything went off the fucking rails. (2016, colorized)

rtxn , (edited )

Bon Jovi David Bowie and Harambe were the cosmic glue that kept the universe’s shit together. Nothing’s been normal since their deaths.

entropicdrift ,
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Bon Jovi is alive, though?

rtxn ,

Fuck, I mixed up my musicians, I meant David Bowie!

entropicdrift ,
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All good, just made me double take lol

ILikeBoobies ,

Oh, the Sovereign?

deadbeef79000 ,

Welcome to the guild of calamitous intent!

HappycamperNZ ,

Oh great, now you’ve started it…

Xavienth ,

that’s what they want you to think

Cosmos7349 ,

Nothing’s been normal since their deaths.

SpaceNoodle ,

Nope, it was all David Bowie. Harambe is just some of the initial fallout.

FlyingSquid ,
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My dad died the same day David Bowie died. It really sucks to have all of your friends post things like, “David Bowie was an inspiration to me and made me the person I am today. His star has fallen and I will be devastated forever. Also, sorry about your dad, dude.”

lol_idk ,

Who TF downvotes this?!

eighty ,

After the following years, I’ve quietly taken the whole “this is when we diverged into the darkest timeline” schtick an iota more seriously. It’s been a strange 8 years.

HootinNHollerin ,

I just died crying laughing at the combo of post and top comment

EdibleFriend , to aboringdystopia in Poignant post on the state of things
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Maybe gen a will be the ones with the balls to actually rise up, set everything on fire, and kill the people responsible for destroying everything. Because of the rest of us are just sitting around complaining.

And yes, I admit, I’m in that category.

captainlezbian ,

It looks like if gen Z’s massive wave of unionization doesn’t work that’ll be the case. Gen A is likely the water war generation unless we clean up our act enough for it to be gen ß

ornery_chemist , (edited )

fails self-restraint check

gen β, not ß

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Toine ,

No, the Troika changed it when Germany took control of Greece 10 years ago.

kokopelli ,

Good old Gen SS

lars ,

I can’t believe I have never seen this joke made in any context before

riskable ,
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SS seems powerful, sure but the godlike powers of SSS class generations could put black holes to shame with their inescapable might.

kokopelli ,

SSSS class generations can harness the power output of a galaxy

indepndnt ,

self-restraint, not self-restaint

ornery_chemist ,

:)

iheartneopets ,

We cannot name one gen Alpha and the next Beta, that is too mean

FenrirIII ,
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I have been educating my child on unions and workers’ rights. When he’s old enough, we move on to the proper engineering and maintenance of guillotines.

EdibleFriend ,
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Have you considered teaching him welding and bulldozer operation?

sour ,
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  • EdibleFriend ,
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    Programming your foot up a billionaire’s ass

    Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

    It is getting to the point that is the only option. Voting doesn’t matter, protesting doesn’t matter, complaining doesn’t matter. Millennials were raised that those are the processes, we have come to realize they don’t work and our kids are being raised with the understanding that that doesn’t work. If they want things to change, and it literally HAS to, that is what needs to happen. Either accept the status quo or forcefully change it. If I understand history, that is the most American thing you can do.

    _number8_ ,

    i’d rather complain than be complacent at least

    Cryophilia ,

    Ah, gen Z

    Us millenials tried that. It was called Occupy Wall Street and we got tear gassed, beaten, and driven away. And then there was a massive effort to erase what they could from media and history, and tarnish the rest.

    It was a massive turning point for our generation. It broke us. We went from angry to depressed. We couldn’t beat them. They have the power of massive physical violence behind them, AND control of the media.

    Gen Z is trying via unionization, which is a tactic much more likely to succeed. Don’t try to overthrow those in power, they’re too powerful for that. Build up your own power first in whatever manner possible, and then use their own levers of control against them.

    Unions need to make a move on the media next. Shawn Fein has been very good at this but it needs more action.

    EdibleFriend , (edited )
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    Lol I’m a millennial too I definitely remember that and it’s not what I’m talking about at all. They just stood around yelling for the most part.

    buzziebee ,

    Occupy Wall Street started strong but quickly decended into uncoordinated nonsense. The initial message was simple, popular, and actionable about how it’s bullshit that global austerity and government cutbacks were hurting the 99% whilst the 1% who caused the crash got off scott free with massive bailouts and tax cuts.

    Because it was a “leaderless” collective action it quickly got occupied itself by all sorts of weird and wacky movements who diluted the message and gave the right wing media all the ammo they could ever want to paint the whole thing as “just some crazy hippies chatting shit about communism” or whatever.

    It’s pretty typical of movements on the left unfortunately. Everyone wants to be super inclusive so all ideas are equally important and you can’t just dismiss ideas as not being relevant without creating a load of infighting. The alternative however means people with bad ideas (ones who often have more time and energy to boot) can easily take over the conversation and your whole message gets diluted, confused, and easily disarmed by the media.

    riskable ,
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    I think the left’s problem isn’t inclusiveness (in things like this) it’s the inability to give power to “strong” leadership. The same mental firewalls that prevent those on the left from falling victim to mountebanks keeps them from letting others speak on their behalf.

    It also creates mental roadblocks for anyone on the left who tries to lead. “How can I speak for these people? I am not one of them.” That’s not a limitation of inclusiveness it’s just empathy. So when anyone on the left challenges a left wing leader with anything, really that leader–if they are truly left leaning–will not fight back without near certainty about their position.

    This makes it easy for a left wing leader to denounce the illogical and/or racist positions from those on the right but extremely difficult to take a stand on issues where everything sucks like Israeli/Palestinian conflict or immigration. This leaves them open for charlatans to point to them and say, “See? They’re weak!” Which is the exact thing the right hates and fears from left wing leaders.

    buzziebee ,

    Maybe inclusiveness wasn’t the right word to use, but your second and third paragraphs are exactly what I meant. It’s because we want to make sure everyone’s voices are hard and ideas are considered that movements end up standing for everything and nothing at the same time. To me creating that space and opportunity for all ideas and people is inclusivity, which is a great thing overall but can make affecting change difficult when your opposition all fall into line behind “strong” leaders.

    ArmokGoB ,

    We need a raised militia in open, violent rebellion against the police and national guard. Anything less than that is theater.

    aphonefriend ,
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    I hear Texas is already on it.

    cooopsspace ,

    The funny thing is that we have politicians here in Australia that complain about “woke” environmentalists standing up for the environment by sitting down on the road. They’re trying to have them labelled as terrorists for simply sitting down in the street.

    Meanwhile in France, Farmers who are angry about stopping of diesel concessions are setting things on fire, blocking streets with tractors and dumping manure and dirt into the street to block public servants responsible into buildings.

    The point is two fold, French have always done protests better. And the west conservatives have a massive raging boner for eroding ones rights to protest.

    Bronzie ,

    I support protesting wholeheartedly, but blocking a road is among the most moronic ways to protest I can think of.
    They are blocking emergency vehicles, people going to work, people doing errands, visiting family, goods being transported etc.
    There is a reason people get pissed off and pull them off of the road themselves. It does absolutely nothing to further their cause.
    It doesn’t even effect the people they protest against.

    Imagine missing your kids show, mothers dying breath or the flight to your long awaited vacation and family visit because someone couldn’t think of a more appropriate way to protest than sitting down and being an absolute butthole.

    IanAtCambio ,

    Isn’t the inconvenience literally the point though?

    Bronzie ,

    I don’t call people potentially dying an inconvenience.
    They have no moral right to decide wether or not people make it to where they are going.

    So what do they hope to achieve?
    If it is awarenes, then there are much better ways of doing it

    IanAtCambio ,

    Just wondering if you’ve ever participated in a protest or this is just an academic exercise. In my experience well behaved protests are basically ineffective. It’s true that you can actually end up vilifying the cause in the eyes of people that you’ve inconvenienced.

    But that creates social pressure on our leaders to address the problem. Either by compromise with the protests demands or clearing them out by force.

    I get that it may block the direct path of an ambulance potentially. But most gps algorithms when they see a ton of stationary phones in the street interpret that as traffic and try to route around it.

    At the end of the day, yes there is the small potential for harm to a few individuals, but (hopefully) the benefits to a larger group offset that.

    I went to UT and there were protests in the street all the time. It always inconvenienced me and I actually came to blows with a few of the protesters, but they should know that’s a possibility going into it. There’s really no right or wrong here. There’s only large organized group against a few impacted drivers.

    Bronzie ,

    I appreciate your arguments but respectfyully disagree.
    A GPS guided detour should not be necessary for vital social functions to operate.
    I also dislike the small potential for harm to a few individuals when there are better ways to get the point across.

    Block construction.
    Occupy offices and locations.
    March.
    Send letters and run awareness campaigns.
    Vote.

    Do anything you can that makes people see you. Just don’t block the road. To me that is too risky. If everybody would protest like that to achieve their political goals we would live in total anarchy.

    Hope my opinions make sense even though you might disagree.

    IanAtCambio ,

    Totally. No animosity here. Never considered occupying an office.

    daltotron ,

    I’m gonna be honest, I’m a zoomer (ahhh yes I’m a zoomer, I’m a zoomer, yippee! Everyone look at me, I’m the zoomer) and, looking towards the future, my future, I’m already kinda there. I just think we both haven’t quite hit the critical mass where everyone else is at that point, yet, and I think that the narrative about, you know, why things suck, I think that’s been co-opted with a mixed level of success, forcing people to feel “fine” with their circumstances, or, forcing people to feel personally responsible for their circumstances, as the case may be. I also think there’s a good amount of cynicism about standing up to the US government and institutions, since we’ve been fed a shitload of stuff against that, and then, you know, we’re all fucked and have limited resources and whatever. I also think people are probably too nice for their own good, most people just kind of want to chill, even if that means they’re actually not allowed to chill because they have to work 2 jobs and have no energy and one financial emergency could wipe them out instantly.

    I dunno, I feel pretty cynical, but I also feel like things will probably get at least a little bit worse, before they get better. I just hope they get worse in the right way, instead of in the whole like, world ending kind of way. Or, localized apocalypse, kind of way, more likely.

    Carighan , to mildlyinfuriating in Teams apparently can't call when using Firefox
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    Just one more upside to Firefox, less interruptions during work~

    Laticauda , to memes in Were this the ‘good ole times’ they always talk about?

    If you think there’s no propaganda on lemmy then I have news for you.

    nixcamic ,

    And fake internet points.

    And I’m sure top men are working on monetization.

    RickyRigatoni ,
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    I’ve already seen plenty of posts and comments that look suspiciously product-placementy.

    troyunrau ,
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    You look like you like rigatoni. Perhaps you’d be interested in trying SmellFresh Fabric softener. It helps keep your knees bent while you use the tobacco masher.

    irreticent ,
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    Kinky.

    seliaste ,
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    Idk why everyone keeps talking about kagi everytime searc engines are mentionned

    morrowind ,
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    Kagi appeals to the same people who like lemmy. They haven’t done any affiliate marketing that I know of.

    Omniraptor ,

    I mean I’d be really surprised if we have monetization through anything other than wikipedia style donation drives

    nixcamic ,

    I only use Lemmy though Boost but don’t some instances have ads?

    irreticent ,
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    I’ve already seen plenty of people advertising their onlyfans here.

    Catsrules ,

    I would say that is more spam than ad.

    ohlaph ,

    Is it good news?

    corship , to mildlyinfuriating in Restaurant Bill

    It’s simple, if a restaurant adds something to the bill I did not agree to beforehand I’ll never eat there again.

    BassaForte ,
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    If a restaurant adds something to the bill I didn’t agree to beforehand, I’m not paying.

    corship ,

    That would be consequent, but usually it’s not worth the trouble.

    I’d rather leave with 20 quid less than wasting 30 min of my time.

    LemmyFeed ,

    So your time must be worth 40/hour or more to make it not worth the trouble?

    Lupus108 ,

    Not OP but my nerves are definitely worth more than 20 bucks.

    Mango ,

    Mine too. I have the nerve to tell them to fuck off with their bullshit.

    corship ,

    It’s a risk reward analysis and not strictly a 1:1 hour pay relation. No one guarantees you any positive outcome here.

    Best case I get the fee removed after a short conversation.

    Worst case, I have to engage in a long drawn argument still having to pay full afterwards.

    Or anything in between, such as still having to pay full, but they’ll make this clearer in their menu.

    best case was a simple mistake and I just have to ask politely. This can be considered very unlikely in this case because the recipient has a dedicated section for the fee, indicating that they’re not going to make any change to the bill. So the risk reward is highly leaning towards the worst case as the expected outcome.

    AeroLemming ,

    I’m pretty sure it’s illegal for them to try to make you pay the service charge you didn’t agree to.

    corship ,

    Surprise surprise, People attempt illegal things all the time

    Neato ,
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    That's like $80k a year. Not that much.

    NightAuthor ,

    Literal poverty washes in SF

    fushuan ,

    My time is worth way more than 40/h when I’m out with friends trying to have a good time. I’m never going to the restaurant again and that’s it.

    ColeSloth ,

    Oh. It wouldn’t take me nearly 30 minutes. It would be less than 5 total minutes.

    Hamartiogonic ,
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    How about just leaving the correct amount of cash on the table and walking away without saying a word.

    snooggums ,
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    I have never eaten at a restaurant that did not disclose a mandatory gratuity ahead of time, but I suppose it could happen.

    alignedchaos ,

    That’s wonderful for you, but it does happen.

    Frozengyro ,

    They should have it listed somewhere in large print and/or verbally inform people so patrons are aware ahead of time

    jasondj ,

    Went out to a pizza place the other night. Thought it was a brewery (one of my favorite local brews, actually), and had been there before and enjoyed flights from them…only to find out the place was a joint between the brewmaster and the restaurateur. Brewmaster took his share, his recipes, and dipped a couple days prior.

    Anyways while the food was pretty good, I mostly went for the beer and that’s a big part of why I won’t go back (they only had a couple cans from the brewery left and nothing on tap, only some other regional breweries).

    But the other part is that my wife put a tip down on the slip for our party of four (us and two kids) and asked me to doublecheck her math. I thought it seemed high and it turned out they already put a tip on the bill. For a party of four. Never saw that before.

    phillaholic ,

    Yea they better have this charge displayed very well on the menu

    gullible , to memes in I get it now

    The werewolf I understand entirely. They’re both awkward, horny kids trying to find their place. The century old vampire creeping on a teenager is where it gets weird.

    Wumbologist ,

    Yeah, this is the part I can’t get past. WTF is Edward doing creeping around underage girls all the time?

    Veltoss ,

    I always assumed vampires are sort of stuck their age mentally as well, for the most part. They can get more wisdom and knowledge but emotionally and sexually they’re whatever age they got turned in. So a 200 year old vampire that got turned at 17 is basically a 17 year old in that way.

    ilovesatan ,
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    Sounds like something a vampire pedo would say.

    Fosheze ,

    Hey now! That’s actually hebophilia. Thank you very much.

    /s

    EuroNutellaMan OP , (edited )
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    More like haemophilia if you ask me

    Chariotwheel ,

    So where does that leave 2000 year old vampire lolis?

    SwiggitySwole ,

    Dead because in twilight the Volturi kill child vampires.

    Chariotwheel ,

    I suppose that's why Twilight never had an anime adaptation.

    devfuuu ,

    The ones.

    Wumbologist ,

    That’s a pretty good theory. It still skeeves me out though

    EmoDuck ,

    And who would have expected that Jacobs place happened to be in prison, where he should go after falling in love with a literal newborn

    Primarily0617 ,

    it's not his FAULT your honor he couldn't HELP but form a love bond with an unborn vampire baby your honor you'd understand if you were a werewolf your honor

    Primarily0617 ,

    The werewolf "imprints" on Bella's unborn vampire baby later in the series, so fortunately the scales of creepiness end up balanced between Team Edward and Team Jacob.

    Tikiporch ,

    She didn’t know how else to resolve the local wolf/vampire conflict so she could escalate the threat level to the euro trash vampires.

    Risk ,

    Casually outting yourself as having read the books.

    Tikiporch ,

    All of them, sadly. Didn’t watch the movies though, I can’t re-live the trauma.

    Risk ,

    Me too, buddy. Me too.

    I read them alongside a friend and met up for coffee to discuss after; we devoured them as they came out and about ¾ of the way through the final book we both just said “What the fuck are we reading?”

    Stephanie Meyer knows how to make you turn pages.

    pyrflie ,

    Sure why not. There is a ton of interesting horror and fantasy material hidden under the trashy paperback romance.

    iheartneopets ,

    What’s the problem with that? I would assume most people of tween/teen reading age did in the time they were popular. They were a phenomenon.

    Casually outing yourself as hating things teenage girls like.

    Risk ,

    I was casually outting myself as having read them too lol.

    iheartneopets ,

    Then no need to feel embarrassed about something you might have enjoyed at the time! :)

    We’re allowed to like what we like, especially as kids. Give your younger self a break lol

    Risk ,

    But… my younger self regretted it? Look, okay I hated on Twilight before it was cool. Y’all just copycats. I’m going to my room!

    HawlSera ,

    He literally falls in love with a god damn fetus

    Son_of_dad ,

    Tbf when you’re a centuries old vampire, everyone’s too young for you

    greenskye ,

    You could at least stick to young adults and older instead of high schoolers

    gullible ,

    Not particularly. If you’ve ever discussed anything of substance with an amateur colleague in your field, you might find novelty in the fresh perspective or even some minor nostalgia. When they meet, Bella is less than a colleague of life. She is a strangely shaped Labrador, which is fitting in that he grooms the shit out of her.

    Justas ,
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    The original “What we do in the shadows” addressed that pretty well, when protagonist started dating his old crush when she’s a 70+ year-old woman and has to apologize for being a bit too old for her.

    PP_BOY_ , to memes in Why do I hear boss music?
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    Imagine actually being scared for your safety because your mom saw you watching porn. As long as I wasn’t like 10 years old, my parents would’ve probably just laughed at me and told me to keep it to myself.

    It’s pretty sad that some people actually live like that, though.

    GeneralVincent ,

    My mom found porn on my computer in high school so my parents decided it would be a good idea to sit the whole family down and talk about what she found and what new restrictions the Internet would have for us all.

    Turns out that restrictions on porn for high schoolers don’t work and just make them more… creative. That was my first taste of learning about IT haha so maybe I should actually thank them.

    No_Money_Just_Change , (edited )

    My mother told me it is okay and totally normal to be interested in these things but it is important that I understand the difference between fiction like this and reality.

    Now I sit at work googling character ideas for dnd so it is safe to say, this did not work out

    scytale ,

    Props to her for handling it the right way though.

    Holzkohlen ,

    Well, I had that same talk with my mom. To this day I can’t stand how fake porn feels. Damn you mother!

    psud ,

    If you want actual fake porn: !aigen

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    You know who the AI needs to train it on how to make fingers?

    Hand fetishists.

    lightnsfw ,

    Yea, reality is the one that sucks.

    ICastFist ,
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    Yea, reality is the one that sucks.

    And it sucks real good, too

    peopleproblems ,

    So something that always bothered me: do we legally have to put restrictions on their access? Like I clearly can’t claim ignorance to knowing how its possible, and since my son is a minor, it’s illegal to provide access to the content.

    I would rather put up layers that he figures out how to work around since that’s how I learned so much too.

    bobs_monkey ,

    That’s actually an interesting question. As far as I can tell, while it is illegal to show minors porn, I don’t think parents are on the hook of their children access it. Common sense would argue that a parent can install all the filters they can, but kids are crafty and nothing will stop a teenage boy from taking care of business, though I’m sure some religious state reps/senators would say otherwise. But, to your point, I don’t believe parents incur liability from their kids looking up boobs online, especially without their knowledge. Now if a sicko parent is actively showing kids naughty videos, that definitely is a crime.

    hg.org/…/showing-porn-to-a-minor-is-it-a-crime-48…

    ICastFist ,
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    Not every parent knows how to enforce that kind of control, and no matter what you do, there will be loopholes.

    Bajillion porn sites blocked? Oh look, he’s now getting his porn off a Telegram or Discord channel! Blocked those, too? “Hey, school friend, can you email me some stuff? Yeah, my parents blocked nearly everything, only email opens”

    As the other poster said, the only thing parents should not do is facilitate access, encourage or show porn to their kids, for obvious reasons. Ideally, parents should educate their kids, “Yeah, that stuff is for show, actual sex is very different. Work your cardio and don’t skip leg day if you wanna impress your partner when you start having sex. Use a fucking condom, too.”

    Jimmycrackcrack ,

    Painfully awkward as it might be I can maybe respect the idea of discussion with the child, but why the fuck did she make everyone else party to it? She could have kept it between you and her or maybe the another significant parental figure. Like, was this discussion had in with and in front of your siblings? Fucking mortifying.

    WilloftheWest ,

    The thing I’d be more concerned with is establishing unreal expectations around sex based on overproduced porn. Like, it’s not a normal expectation to fold someone into a pretzel and jackhammer their ass for 30 minutes.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

    That’s just a normal Tuesday.

    bobs_monkey ,

    That’s the difference between normal vanilla procreation and kinky fetishes, an important distinction

    ElderWendigo ,

    What difference is that exactly? That question seems more helpful than casual slut shaming.

    bobs_monkey ,

    Lol jfc, not sure how you got slut shaming out of that. For some people that’s their jam, don’t be jelly

    Polar ,

    10 year olds should be allowed to watch porn. If you’re seeking it out, it’s fine (as opposed to people showing you). That’s how you learn about your body.

    Only America has a weird obsession over sex = bad. In Europe, they have shows dedicated to dating based on if you like their genitals.

    www.imdb.com/title/tt5969074/

    www.imdb.com/title/tt27442417/

    InputZero ,

    The US absolutely has an obsession with sex = bad but it also has an obsession with sex = money and power. I don’t have kids, but if I did I wouldn’t let them watch pornhub porn. It doesn’t show healthy relationships, it’s mostly just step-daughter porn. So while I agree that children shouldn’t be sheltered from sex, they should be sheltered from Pop-Porn.

    Biorix ,

    10 years should not have to watch porn. The problem is that it is often the only “sex education” they’ll have. But it’s a terrible example of sexual life.

    Sex Ed should be about pleasure, sane sex life, type of relation, etc. As well as the usual risks and disease presented, so teenagers can understand the difference between performance and reality

    Polar ,

    I never said they should HAVE to watch porn. I said they should be ALLOWED.

    Your comment just goes to show further how Americans view sex as bad lmao.

    Nothing wrong with porn. Not my fault Americans think that porn is real. Bet you also think horror movies are real, too, eh? All those innocent people killed!

    You do realize that amateur porn exists, right? Where people film themselves with their iPhone. None of the production shit.

    rippersnapper ,

    You clearly haven’t talked to Asians about how strict their parents can be. I’ve heard of guys getting their asses whopped for slacking off in studies. The same applies to some black parents too.

    geogle , to mildlyinfuriating in So much for that dream.
    @geogle@lemmy.world avatar

    Charge your phone

    jdf038 ,

    I doubt they can read this. Rip ops phone

    Patariki ,

    OP’s phone kept posting to keep Lemmy active until the bitter end. o7

    joelfromaus ,
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    Yes officer, I’d like to charge this phone with battery.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Perhaps he likes to live dangerously, and in the moment?

    sturdilypop ,

    He totally didn’t knew about that

    nexussapphire ,

    It’s giving me Vietnam flashbacks.

    MargotRobbie , to fediverse in 12 years ago. Wonder what Lemmy will look like in 12 years?
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    Lemmy is still going to be here because it’s not a Google product.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Touche…

    Pour one out for project Ara, everyone… And the hundreds of other companies that had a bright future before Google bought and destroyed them.

    mexicancartel ,

    You can’t buy lemmy itself but only instances

    tool ,
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    It’s a decade later, and I’m still bitter about Google Reader’s unceremonious execution.

    pruwybn ,
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    SAME. I use Netvibes and Feedly now, but I miss the social aspect - sharing stuff and having friends’ feeds.

    Nusm ,
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    I was so upset about it that I almost de-Googled. And I was all-in on the Google ecosystem. In the end I begrudgingly continued on because I didn’t have the time or energy to find replacements for everything.

    But yes, I’m still angry over it. I like NewsBlur, it does everything I need, but I still miss Google Reader, and I would go back to it in a second.

    Hazzard ,

    Gotta be Google Play Music I’m still bitter about. YouTube music doesn’t hold a candle to it, and I’ve never quite been as happy with Spotify or Apple Music. Getting YT Premium with a good music service was great too, but they shot themselves in the foot.

    And there’s was just… no reason for it. They even delayed its death when they realized how crap YT Music was, and then later just… decided to do it anyways.

    Ktheone ,

    Google play music : …(

    luis123456 ,

    Feel the Fediverse!

    Shadesto ,

    Google made a huge mistake shutting down Google+. If they had built it out to integrate with Youtube, where people could have a space to Tweet, have a Main Page feed like Facebook, and post videos all in the same platform, they would have dominated the market.

    I still have a hard time believing that no-one has created a platform that encompasses all of those things. Meta is doing it piece-meal but it’s all disorganized. It should be one unified platform.

    That’s why I hope some developers start working on a way to integrate Lemmy and Mastodon and like… PeerTube together into a single frontend. I’d love to be able to manage my Mastodon posts and BS on Lemmy in the same website.

    pandas ,
    @pandas@are.sexy avatar

    @Shadesto @MargotRobbie AFAIK YouTube did have google plus integration but it was optional.

    Sibbo , to aboringdystopia in What fresh hell is this?

    You recently calculated 34*5+1. Do you want to buy a new washing machine?

    mozz , to funny in I can't believe it tastes different
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Working in tech support be like

    Murdoc ,

    Except they don’t tell you that they did something different and you have to spend half an hour just figuring that out.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Yeah. You would have had to triangulate your way around to getting the information that is exactly the information that you knew already that it was.


    "Sir, I need you to go to the oil that you used and check if it is non-hydrogenated or hydrogenated. It should be printed on the back of the label."

    "What do you mean, I never had this problem before"

    "Yes, I'm aware, they have changed the oil constitution recently. I'll be able to resolve this problem for you, I just need to know if the oil is hydrogenated or not."

    "I don't see what that has to do with anything"

    "Can you just check the back of the bottle, please? Then I'm sure we'll be able to get your recipe working again"

    "Okay, well I didn't actually use oil, I used toothpaste because it was expired and I wanted to get rid of it"

    "Aha! Okay, I understand sir. I'm glad we were able to get to the bottom of the issue you're having. So, if you make the recipe with toothpaste, it definitely won't taste the same or have a good consistency. I think if you switch back to using oil you'll find that the pancakes still taste the same as they used to"

    "But I think I should be able to use toothpaste."

    "Absolutely. Is there anything else I can help you with today?"

    Riven ,
    @Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Fuck this is painfully on point. Both as someone whose worked in customer service and IT.

    zaph ,

    Flashbacks to trying to get the user to admit they unplugged the monitor

    PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

    Yeah, Rule 0 of tech support is “users lie.”

    Oh, you already rebooted? Okay, well maybe your power cable is loose. Go ahead and shut down for me real quick, so you can unplug that power cable and plug it back in. Great, now that you’ve power cycled your computer, the problem is fixed? Glad I could help.

    Swarfega ,

    I used to work in a 3rd line tech support. Whenever we got escalations from tier 2 I’d read their notes and then start from the beginning. More often than not they would say they have checked something and not found the fault when indeed that was the fault.

    JasonDJ ,

    I’m the last stop for my help desk and I legit feel like Dr House some days.

    Yeah. Users lie. They also misremember or straight up don’t notice.

    To be fair tho, some of L1 can’t write for shit, and some of L1 likes going well beyond the scope of the KB and breaks more stuff in the process. Those guys usually make good L2 since they are proactive and accept feedback, they just lack discretion.

    USSEthernet ,

    Dude, ages ago when I did tech support. A simple question like: “are the lights on your modem on?” was met with a yes. Then after an hour of troubleshooting you find out, in fact, no they weren’t on the entire time and the modem was unplugged. Like, you lied, you never even checked. The real questions then become: why was the modem unplugged? Who unplugged it? What reason does one have for unplugging their modem?

    lucas ,
    @lucas@fitt.au avatar

    @USSEthernet @Murdoc why we used to ask them if one was blinking fast or slow, it made them actually look at the modem

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    I just want to say, as someone who is quite tech literate, these kinds of questions are incredibly annoying to get through. I called my ISP, and they tried walking me through restarting my router when I could ping their gateway already, but not the outside world (e.g. 1.1.1.1).

    But then again, I’ve worked tech support and have been on the other end with tech illiterate people, so I get it.

    I just wish “shibboleet” was a real thing.

    SecretPancake ,

    Oh man that would be amazing. My ISP at some point stopped giving out modems with the internet contract and instead only offers these shitty routers with integrated modems. I read somewhere that you can still get a modem if you asked. So I called and spend 15 minutes trying to describe the difference between a router and a modem and gave up.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    When I had DSL, I bought my own modem and connected it to the same router I used at a previous place. They when to charge ~$10/month, so I spent about $20 and got a basic modem.

    My current internet is Ethernet at the wall, so no need for a modem, and AFAIK the company doesn’t even provide routers (didn’t ask, I just used the one I had). All I needed was the gateway, netmask, and our static (CGNATed) IP. They wrote that in a piece of paper, which I keep in my safe so I don’t need to call them just because I reset my router or something.

    I think they know who I am by now because I call pretty much every time the Internet goes out. It’s a small company (only serves my town of 30-40k people), and I’m probably the only one with a ln enterprise-y router (Mikrotik) with a separate AP (Ubiquiti). Yet I still need to do the basic troubleshooting before they’ll actually look into the traffic on their end.

    SecretPancake ,

    I would like to just buy a modem but somehow I can’t find any cable modems in Germany. There are a few I could import from Amazon US but they apparently don’t support EuroDOCSIS. I used to have one from Cisco, provided by the ISP, that worked perfectly but with a contract change they demanded it back (a condition they did not tell me about and I’m still angry about that).

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    I don’t know anything about modems in Germany, but I found this. I got it from this Reddit thread.

    SecretPancake ,

    Thanks, it looks like it could be something but it only has DOCSIS 3.0, I will need to check if that’s enough.

    Schmoo ,

    Unfortunately if shibboleet were a thing tech illiterate users would quickly learn it and use it every time.

    sugar_in_your_tea ,

    Maybe a rotating key, like with TOTP?

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Yup. Many people have a tendency to tell someone what they think they want to hear. “Is the light on?” hmmm I think they want me to say yes so… “yes”.

    So you always have to make an effort to ask questions in a way that gives no indication of what the “correct” answer should be. Don’t ask “is the value in that field set to xyz”? Instead ask “what is the value you see in that field?”

    shneancy ,

    some people are so very afraid of being anything but perfect they will just lie about things and insist you’re not doing enough to fix a problem with your service

    exocrinous ,

    I know someone who, when it’s having a panic attack and is asked a question, it asks the person asking what the correct answer is. Even if they have no way of knowing.

    barsoap ,

    And this is exactly why I always humour tech support when they’re asking me which lights exactly are on, which colour, and their blinking patterns. I’ve already made the diagnosis yes the problem is on their end but it’s not like they have a way to know I’m not full of shit.

    Anticorp ,

    Click the start button. The start button. It’s on the bottom left. Yes, click it. You already clicked it? Don’t click it again! You clicked it again? Okay, click it again. Now on the fly out click control panel. Wait, you clicked the start button again? Okay click it again. You know what? Fuck this shit, I quit.

    JargonWagon ,

    After you click it, the Start Menu will appear. While the Start Menu is showing, there are some icons all the way to the left, and one of them is called Control Panel. Oh, you pushed the power button and it’s off now? Okay… Push the power button to turn the computer back on. You already did? You pushed it again and it powered off? Turn the computer back on please.

    Anticorp ,

    “Please unplug your computer and never touch it again.”

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

    I remember one call where the customer didn’t know where the Start button was. I told them that it was the button on the lower left-hand corner of the screen. She said that she clicked it and everything went black. Turns out she hit the power button on her monitor.

    Anticorp ,

    Haha! It’s so ridiculous that I wouldn’t believe you if I hadn’t encountered similar issues myself.

    a_wild_mimic_appears ,

    I legit had the following interaction.

    Me: Please close all windows you have currently opened. Costumer: Ok, one moment. leaves phone, comes back 2 minutes later. Me: It will take quite long if you are not sitting in front of your computer, can you relocate there? Costumer: I am in front of the computer, i just closed all windows just like you told me. Me: dies internally

    I had another client with ADSL, asked them what modem they used: Client: “My modem is colorful and full of lights!”

    seriously, tech support is funny shit if it doesn’t happen to you.

    Anticorp ,

    People are crazy.

    JasonDJ ,

    I used to work in tech support for a pharmacy chain.

    One day I ask the pharmacist to unplug for 10 seconds. He tells me he doesn’t know how to count to 10, just 30. Sometimes he has to count to 60, or 90, or even 180…but he doesn’t. He just counts to 30 until it looks good.

    Empricorn , (edited )

    I’m sorry, what?? Are you leaving something out, or was the pharmacist mixing their own samples?

    JasonDJ ,

    In the US, most retail pharmacists do little compounding. They mostly check for drug interactions (since most prescribers don’t talk to each other unless you’re a patient of a holistic care team) and make sure the techs and the software don’t screw up.

    The joke is that most pills are dispensed in multiples of 30.

    mozz , (edited ) to videos in Am I the only one whose "shorts" feed is all basically softcore porn?
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Bro you should have investigated the actual answer to this question before asking it publicly 😃

    It's not to say you're watching lots of soft core porn but the algorithm has definitely decided that you'll like it

    Bell OP ,

    There’s alot I could argue with but maybe the best answer I have is: why just the shorts? The rest of my YouTube feed kinda sucks but it isn’t porn or titillating at all.

    xnx ,

    Theyre separate algorithms so its prolly the only type of shorts youve clicked or hovered over for a some time

    Bell OP ,

    That’s the thing, I think I’ve watched maybe 2 shorts ever, pretty sure they were not like these or at least only mildly sexy

    Monument ,

    But it’s Google, so they know your browsing history and have you in a “bucket” for what their metrics think will drive engagement from you. (Or they don’t know enough about you and just think boobs will get you intersted, because sex sells.)

    Meh. We’re all human. If Google thinks you like thirst traps, whatevs. Pretty ladies are pretty ladies.
    But if you don’t want to see it, you can probably use feedback tools to change what they show you.

    Z4rK ,

    Well that’s just not how recommendation algorithms work. A part of it will be content based, directly related to what the user can be associated with.

    However, the largest part is collaboration based filtering of content. That means, our user is put in a group based on his other preferences, let’s assume nerdy tech stuff, and then is shown content that he has not liked yet but his group of peers has, meaning he could probably like it too.

    In other words - he’s not the one in fault here, YOU are (you pretty much have to be nerdy tech folks to be here).

    Please, could everyone here stop clicking on this stuff so that OP don’t have to be associated with your filthy behavior, thank you.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    that’s just not how recommendation algorithms work

    I didn't say anything about how they work -- only that it shows you stuff it thinks you will like. Which is basically what you said.

    However, the largest part is collaboration based filtering of content. That means, our user is put in a group based on his other preferences, let’s assume nerdy tech stuff, and then is shown content that he has not liked yet but his group of peers has, meaning he could probably like it too.

    Yes, based on other user patterns and how it categorizes him, it thinks he could probably like soft core porn too. That is, in fact, how it works. Glad we agree.

    In other words - he’s not the one in fault here, YOU are

    Please, could everyone here stop clicking on this stuff so that OP don’t have to be associated with your filthy behavior, thank you.

    So it's perfectly realistic that everyone could be clicking on soft core porn to feed the algorithm these ideas, in contrast to OP, who couldn't possibly be clicking on it? You've decided they're the one and only person who definitely isn't doing that when clearly someone is?

    How could you write this hostile and condescending message when I actually made a specific point to highlight the exact point you're making ("It's not to say you're watching lots of soft core porn") in my message? If a little more succinctly. I wasn't blaming OP in any way, just explaining (just as you did) that the algorithm based on his viewing patterns is what decides what to show him.

    Z4rK ,

    I had hoped that my last sentence showed my post was clearly in jest. The factual information was just needed to set up the joke. Neither hostility nor condescension was applied.

    In fact, the avid reader might catch that I have implied myself in the group of people causing OP’s annoying trouble with light-clothed females since I too am here - presumably a tech nerd like OP and meddling with the algorithms affecting him by clicking on unsavory content.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Ooooh

    Yeah I totally missed it. My apologies.

    Assman ,
    @Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I’ve gotten sexualized ads in my work Gmail which I only use for work emails and nothing else. Pretty sure step one of Google’s algorithms is “is man? Show titty”

    RememberTheApollo_ , to aboringdystopia in The children yearn for the mines

    …solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.

    Agent641 ,

    Then we’ll just have to organise and unionise the kids too!

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    Or better yet, we should enact laws that protect children from the workforce. Maybe we can call them “child labor laws”

    Famko ,

    A preposterous idea! - conservatives, apparently.

    xenoclast ,

    You hate American and want [others] to have more [economy, Jesus’ love,reality shows]… you monsters

    Fedizen ,

    Freedom is where you can send your kids to the mines.

    refurbishedrefurbisher ,

    Ah yes. The famous quote from Jesus when he said, “thou shalt exploit thy workers for maximum profit without regard for the worker’s well-being.” in Rand 420:69

    Or when Jesus said, “Thou must love thyself above thy neighbor.” in Freedman 6:66

    cheese_greater ,

    Be great if the kids learned to unionize early

    xenoclast ,

    It used to be a funny joke about sending them to the spice mines on Kessel… now I miss them sometimes

    cheese_greater ,

    I spilled child labor on our kid—now he’s gone 🤪

    masquenox ,

    Kids being able to form their own unions in schools have never been a bad idea - but for some reason nobody on the left has ever spoken about this (as far as I can tell.)

    CileTheSane ,
    @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

    …solves the low-wage problem by hiring kids who don’t know better.

    And they’re at work instead of school so they don’t learn better.

    Maalus ,

    It’s on the weekends, they wouldn’t go to school anyway

    Honytawk ,

    Nor will they taste the freedom of being a child.

    Just as what the overlord intended.

    aidan ,

    School already deprives you of that

    Maalus ,

    Pretty sure nobody is forcing them to go to work

    mods_are_assholes ,

    Well we all know the undereducated love voting republicunt against their own best interests

    x4740N , to lemmyshitpost in Gastronomical Masterpiece
    @x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

    What fucking godless heathen eats rice with ketchup

    Treczoks ,

    Americans. They would even eat old car tires with ketchup.

    Manifish_Destiny ,

    Nah dude. Just a little bit of soy or tonkatsu sauce.

    CoolGirl586 ,

    Ketchup rice is a Japanese dish. www.chopstickchronicles.com/ketchup-rice/#recipe

    minyakcurry ,

    That’s fried rice, not white rice steamed or cooked in a rice cooker. I can imagine putting ketchup on a nigiri and immediately getting scolded in Japan.

    stackPeek ,
    @stackPeek@lemmy.world avatar

    Fried rice, not normal rice

    ringwraithfish ,

    And who determined steamed rice is “normal” rice.

    Ricist!

    mondo_brondo ,

    I’ve never heard of anyone eating rice with ketchup before.

    frunch ,

    Have you ever American though?

    key ,

    A few times. Fantastic marbling but ironically not very good with ketchup.

    mondo_brondo ,

    Yes

    frunch ,

    A man of culture, i see

    titter ,

    I like white rice with cheddar cheese and ketchup. Best to cube your cheese up from a block and put it on last with the ketchup so it doesn’t melt.

    You should see how i make tea.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Lol, we really don’t do this. But it’s fun to fuck with people.

    sock ,

    more like people in America sometimes eat it. just like how people everywhere sometimes do everything and stupid nationalism only divides everybody more.

    MindSkipperBro12 ,

    Don’t knock it till you try it.

    Jaysyn ,
    @Jaysyn@kbin.social avatar

    I've never seen a fellow citizen that was older than 9 eat rice w/ ketchup.

    It's butter, salt & black pepper in the southern USA, at least.

    tacosplease ,

    Haha I don’t know many American adults who eat ketchup on more than a few foods. Maybe burgers, maybe hot dogs, probably french fries. Most of us hate how it smells too.

    root_beer ,

    Hell, burgers are the only thing I’d consider it for, and even then I’ll look for something else first more often than not

    hydrospanner ,

    Only all-season radials.

    We got standards, you know.

    Kusimulkku ,

    That’s the joke

    MashedTech ,

    Agreed

    Yearly1845 ,

    Have you never tried it? It’s quite good, though I haven’t done it since I was a child.

    FeatherConstrictor ,

    Me sometimes when I have no energy for anything else :| been doing it since I was a kid

    FreshLight , to lemmyshitpost in It's like a foodie version of a fleeting love story.

    Anon was in a private home and ate someone’s food

    ImTryingLemmy ,

    Drunk as fuck, someone took pity on him at the bar and gave OP some takeout.

    JustMy2c ,

    Bet ya they charged him for it tho. As they should.

    Taleya ,

    The ol’ RDJ

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