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dan1101 , to mildlyinfuriating in Shrinkflation is out of control

This sucks. One of my favorite places to eat has both inflation and shrinkflation. Higher price for smaller portions.

bobs_monkey ,

More than likely their suppliers are bleeding them, a lot of restaurants in my town are dealing with the same shit

Kichae ,

Yeah. One of my favourite restaurants closed a couple months ago because they just couldn't justify charging more for food, but their suppliers sure could.

just_the_ticket ,

It’s not the supplier “bleeding them” the supplier has the exact same problem the restaurant has, inflation, if they don’t raise the prices they go bankrupt. It’s a vicious cycle of everyone raising prices not to go bankrupt which causes everyone else to do the same.

some_guy ,

If you don’t think suppliers are using inflation to justify robber-baron price hikes, I guess you missed the part where companies are posting record profits.

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

Inflation drives all the numbers up. If money inflates to half the value but you maintain the same profit margins, you'll make record profits despite the finances having functionally remained exactly the same.

Workers are also making record wages. It doesn't mean much if you don't consider how much the money is actually worth, as we've all been discovering over the last few years.

variants ,

so why not just lower the profit margins? also give me some of them record wages please, all I got was a bottle of champagne for all the work weve done and record profits but also raises in pay are frozen because of the turbulent times

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

so why not just lower the profit margins?

Probably for the same reason you don't casually decide to go to your boss and say that you voluntarily want a pay cut.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/wages

Average hourly wage at the start of 2020 was $24. It's now $29, which comes to about $10,000 more each year, and is an increase of about 21%. That growth has been concentrated in the service industry, but the data is pretty clear regardless, and the general trend applies to basically all sectors. Inflation in that same time period is 18.1%, so it simply is a matter of fact that the average worker has greater buying power today than they did in January 2020.

That's an average, of course, and may not necessarily apply to you individually.

jcit878 ,

you got champagne? I just got lumped onto more projects for no more money

CaptObvious ,

You got champagne? All I got was runaround, brand new policies pulled out of thin air, and creative counting to deny seniority benefits. Turns out, I’ve worked for the same place 30 years when it inflates their retention and longevity numbers for the oversight agencies. I’ve also worked there for only a year (started a new position last year) when it suits them to deny a published benefit. The completely mindboggling part? These two countings were in the same email.

grue ,
DarkWasp ,
@DarkWasp@lemmy.world avatar

Workers are not making record wages, maybe CEOs and the upper middle class are but nobody else is. Maybe this is specific to America? Nearly everyone I know across multiple wage brackets I struggling with the cost of living.

Agent_of_Kayos ,

I think that’s exactly it. I don’t know for sure, but these numbers may be average wages. And if that’s the case, having the top % or earners earn more while the bottome stays the same would still increase the average And would increase the divide between the top earners and bottom earners

BraveSirZaphod ,
@BraveSirZaphod@kbin.social avatar

Wage growth in the US has been most pronounced in the lower end of the market. Growth-oriented businesses like tech are a lot more sensitive to interest rate spikes, since their entire model is to borrow a ton of money to pay highly skilled workers a lot to "disrupt" an industry and achieve very rapid growth.

That isn't necessarily contradictory with still struggling, since inflation exists. If you suddenly make 10% more money but everything costs 10% more as well, you are objectively making record wages, even though your buying power remains the same. Per that report, inflation-adjusted wages have actually grown on the lower end of the job market, so the average low-wage worker's buying power has actually increased, but general statistics don't always translate over to real-life experience super cleanly, and of course, a slight improvement from a bad financial situation doesn't suddenly put you in a good situation.

SCB ,

I work for a packaging supplier and inflation is hitting us hard.

Perhaps the people whose job it is to know shit a actually do know shit

DrQuint ,

People will just tell you “Ah, that’s the excuse they gave you to not raise you to match the inflation”.

And we won’t and can’t know who’s right until we know who you work for and what’s their past and current financial output.

SCB ,

I know who is right because I’m not some bottom-tier employee parroting what I’ve heard. My job requires me to work with our finance team, M&A team, COO, and SG&A team as part of overarching strategy.

drphungky ,

I’m an inflationary economist and I feel you, man.

Agent_of_Kayos ,

Huzzah for our current system of capitalism that insists a company is only doing good if each quarter has record profits. What’s bad with doing “good enough?”

drphungky ,

This concept of greedflation has been disproved in recent meta-analysis. It should probably die. I’ll copy paste a comment I wrote in some other thread analyzing it.

I think everyone should probably listen to this great report from NPR that dissects this issue. The Tl;dr: is greedflation is not really a real thing.

The deeper answer to your question of, “can one party increase prices in a market?” is sort of basic economics, and the answer is, “Usually, no.” In a competitive market, the answer is no. In a monopolistic market (meaning one company controls most of the market, think like Google with browsers) with no government oversight, the answer is yes. Things get complicated when you add in government regulation or oligopolistic markets (markets where only a few players control the market). In those cases, it depends on how strong government regulations on price-gouging are and any anti-monopoly or anti-anticompetitive practice laws are, and also depends on how oligopolists behave. Sometimes, particularly in industries with few big players, the big players will make the same decisions independently. If they do this cooperating it will usually violate antitrust laws, but if they both decide they’ll be better off say, not paying workers as much, or charging super high markups, them that can happen. A lot of economic research shows that kind of “tacit collusion” happens in real life, like in the oil and gas industries. But other times oligopolies will behave very competitively, only uniting through lobbyist trade groups if at all (think Microsoft and Amazon in cloud software).

So that’s the facts, but here’s my economic musing: The reason it feels like greedflation is a thing is a combination of factors:

  1. Inflation was very real, and very salient.
  2. Corporations (as mentioned in the NPR piece) crowed about their “record profits” in the short term, and also mention them when they are absolute record profits, not just record profit margins (something not mentioned but very real - a company can make twice as much money but also have spent twice as much, making way “more” money but with identical margins)
  3. In the US at least, we are seeing the highest numbers of industry consolidation and monopolies/oligopolies since the Gilded Age, so it feels like companies should be able to raise their prices if they want to.
  4. Media coverage and online spaces have become extremely polarized, so “corporations bad” is a very easy refrain to find if you’re watching or reading anything remotely left-wing, and it has been parroted by many democratic politicians as well, because it scores cheap and easy political points (also, and this is just my opinion, it helps vilify corps more in the public eye to help get more support for better antitrust legislation and enforcement, the actual end goal. I don’t think senators like Bernie Sanders don’t actually understand what’s going on with profit margins, I think they’re using it to generate political will, but that may be my own bias creeping in).
dan1101 ,

You’re getting downvoted but the suppliers have suppliers too, and even if it’s a farm-to-table thing the farms have supply costs.

Son_of_dad ,

Every place I used to eat pretty much. And they cheap out on cheap shit too, like fries and rice. I used to work at a restaurant and the owner always taught me to fill up the sides cause it makes people feel they got their money’s worth

SaltyLemon , to technology in Microsoft to Force Web Links Shared in Teams to Open with Microsoft Edge
@SaltyLemon@lemmy.world avatar

This shit makes me want to quit IT. Technology is no longer helping humans. Technology is controlled by capitalist cunts.

TwilightVulpine ,

I joined an IT career out of excitement for technology and gaming, but most that I see about both those industries makes me lose hope for the future.

michael ,
@michael@lemmy.perthchat.org avatar

I’ve feel a deep resentment when asked to work on anything Windows related!

BURN ,

I’m out of software the first chance I get. I hate it. Tech is no longer fun and inventive, it’s exploitative and designed to milk the most money out of every user.

I don’t even particularly care about the capitalist part. I just find that the new things are no longer fun, but terrifying and causing anxiety about the future. I used to love keeping up with the newest stuff, but I already feel like a Luddite after the last few years

mall_ninja ,

Same. Streaming services reinvented cable. The open web is increasingly hidden behind paywalls. Instead of having the sum of all human knowledge at your fingertips, you have 5 billion tiny creators begging you to sign up for their goat-fat candle-making course on udacity. You can’t look in any direction without advertisers stabbing you in the eyes and claiming that it’s their god-given right to scream their snake-oil sales pitch directly into your brain; and if you install an ad blocker you’re the one stealing food out of content creators mouths, not the ~5 people who control 50 % of the total wealth of humanity…

mailerdaemon ,

I’m with you. I’m so completely and utterly over working in IT. The industry used to be full of companies founded by people who loved tech, and were staffed by kids who grew up on Lego and Logo. Today these same businesses are owned by investors who don’t know the first thing about technology, and staffed by grown up kids who were told by their guidance counselor that IT was a high paying field. Nobody knows their ass from a hole in the ground anymore, and getting anyone remotely competent on the phone is like pulling teeth. If I could bail on this industry tomorrow and build picnic tables I’d never look back.

KingJacobo ,

I did. I switched to social work and am starting my 2nd year in grad school. It’s not just you, my dude.

TwoGems ,
@TwoGems@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t quit IT. Combine your abilities with other IT people and make new things that create competition.

nefarious , to programmer_humor in Linux Best Practices

Careful, you have to also add --no-preserve-root to make sure you get all of it out. If you leave the roots, it'll just grow back later!

(But seriously, don't actually do this unless you're prepared to lose data and potentially even brick your computer. Don't even try it on a VM or a computer you're planning to wipe anyway, because if something is mounted that you don't expect, you'll wipe that too. On older Linux kernels, EFI variables were mounted as writable, so running rm -rf / could actually brick your computer. This shouldn't still be the case, but I wouldn't test it, myself.)

pomodoro_longbreak ,
@pomodoro_longbreak@sh.itjust.works avatar

Careful, you have to also add --no-preserve-root to make sure you get all of it out. If you leave the roots, it’ll just grow back later!

Oh my god I effin guffawed, thanks for that

Barbarian ,
@Barbarian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Fun fact, rm -rf /* does not need --no-preserve-root. It will happily start as technically, according to the preserve root check, /* is not root as the target is not /

koper ,

It’s slightly different. Your shell will see the /* and replace it with all the directories under /, e.g. /bin /dev /etc /home etc. So the actual command that runs is rm -rf /bin /dev /etc /home etc.

Infernal_pizza ,
@Infernal_pizza@lemmy.world avatar

I ran it in Hyper-V once to see what happens and it deletes all the boot entries from the VM firmware (including pxe boot and the dvd drive)

Veedem , to lemmyshitpost in Glad to see Lemmy users appreciating diversity
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The world is already healing 🙏

rustyfish , to noncredibledefense in r/russianwarfootage is something else.
@rustyfish@lemmy.world avatar

It’s the same shit with the tankies on Lemmy. They write these essays like they are payed per character and link the dumbest shit you can imagine. My favourite being some dude on youtube saying “It was the CIA, CIA man told me, trust me it’s CIA man in trenchcoat, tiananmen square did not happen and if it did it was scary CIA man”.

This sentiment is very common around the world. Every time something goes wrong it’s not the government: “It’s the USA/Europe/Jews! AAAARGH! They fear us so much! That’s why they sabotage us all the time!” I hear this shit in my own family from time to time and it never stops being funny. I wish I could deep dive into an alternate reality like they do.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

Tankies on Lemmy: "I am very critical of Putin's Russia. Now excuse me while I regurgitate Russian propaganda word for word"

SpicyPeaSoup ,
@SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social avatar

"Regurgitate Putin's words, not his cum" - tankie saying.

SupraMario ,

I’ve been hit with the “that’s not real communism” but never been provided a source for “real communism” whatever that is.

PugJesus ,
@PugJesus@kbin.social avatar

I mean tbqf Russia is explicitly a capitalist state and China is literally but less explicitly a capitalist state, no matter how many times tankies claim the PEOPLE'S billionaires are totally left praxis

Ilovethebomb OP ,

Oh, Lemmygrad is like a zoo for crazy people, it’s so much fun to go and wind them up.

And you’re dead right about the absolute fucking treatsies they write in the comments section.

dreugeworst ,

I mean, the USA and Europe did fuck lots of shit up during the cold war, let alone before then. Totally fair if people from South America, Africa and Asia are wary of us. No excuse for including jews though

ahornsirup ,
@ahornsirup@kbin.social avatar

Yeah, sure, but there's a difference between not wanting other nations interfering in your country's affairs (which is completely fair) and supporting Russia engaging in a blatantly imperialist offensive war just because they oppose "the West". That's just hypocrisy.

p03locke ,
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stebo02 , to lemmyshitpost in I don't get it
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I think it’s a good way to divert the musk spam. Post everything Musk en Xitter there so /c/technology etc. stay interesting.

Drewsteau ,

Agree. It’s pretty annoying scrolling through the tech communities and seeing the same article about him posted 5 different times lol

WarmSoda ,

Absolutely. Post in it’s own community, let the rest of us breathe

hungryphrog , to mildlyinfuriating in Coming from nestle of all people

This is the most pathetic attempt at greenwashing I have ever seen.

Smokeless7048 ,

Came here to say that. So clearly doesn’t change anything (unless you are on a cellphone or have an expensive OLED computer screen)

Fuck nestle

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Not all phones; just ones with OLED screens.

CRTs will also save power as they have to shoot fewer phosphors, but that’s not really relevant today.

Smokeless7048 ,

Don’t pretty much all phones have OLED screens?

salient_one ,
@salient_one@lemmy.villa-straylight.social avatar

These guys say it’s about 50%.

dan , (edited )
@dan@upvote.au avatar

Only midrange to high-end devices. Cheaper ones (which are very common especially in poorer countries) still use simpler LCD/LED screens.

LCD screens have a backlight that’s always on and consumes the same amount of power regardless of what’s on the screen. OLEDs don’t have a backlight; when the screen is dark, the pixels in that area are actually turned off.

Synthead ,

Now that most of my pixels are a different color… we can, um… we fixed, erm… wait, what is that supposed to do again? Did we do a global climate change or nah?

gon , to mildlyinteresting in In South Korea, some stores carry "one a day" bananas which are packaged in order of ripeness
@gon@lemmy.world avatar

I mean, that is mildly interesting, but it’s so fucking silly. So unnecessary…

Lucidlethargy ,

Seriously… Just pick the exact ripeness of each one in any store where I live. Mix and match, it’s totally, 100% socially acceptable to do this.

Baconheatedradiator ,

You can’t buy individual bananas in many places in my country.

I’m not buying three bunches of bananas, each at different stages of ripeness. That’s a ridiculous amount of bananas.

alexius ,

You can’t? Are fruits/produce not sold by weight over there?

Baconheatedradiator ,

Yeah you might weigh the bunch of bananas at the checkout, but you won’t find many individual bananas at most supermarkets.

You might see individual pieces of fruit sold with lunch meal deals (sandwiches, drink fruit etc) but not in the regular grocery section.

alexius ,

Over here you can just rip the bananas you want from the bunch. They don’t care about bunches, just the weight of the fruit.

Lucidlethargy ,

So this is interesting… if you see a bunch of bananas, you’re not allowed to break one off? Here in the United States, it’s totally acceptable to do this. You can straight up go around and pull one banans off of 7 different bunches, and nobody will even look at you funny.

Baconheatedradiator ,

Yeah this would cause mayhem here lol

MaxVoltage ,
@MaxVoltage@lemmy.world avatar

[mildly infuriating]

putting bannas in a plastic shell 🗽🇺🇸👍👍😎

instamat ,

Except… it’s South Korea 🤷🇰🇷👍👍🤗

alexius ,

Potato potato. South Korea is the most americanized country in Asia by far.

moistmilkman , to world in The hottest 14 days ever recorded are the last 2 weeks

We are so fucked. And this is only the beginning.

DevCat , to mildlyinfuriating in This comparison...
@DevCat@lemmy.world avatar

In 1995, Musk and his brother, Kimbal, started Zip2, a web software company, with US$28,000 of their father’s (Errol Musk) money

Tesla Motors was incorporated in July 2003 by Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, who financed the company until the Series A round of funding. Both men played active roles in the company’s early development prior to Elon Musk’s involvement.

Responding to a screenshot of a CNN headline that read, “2% of Elon Musk’s wealth could help solve world hunger, says director of UN food scarcity organization,” Musk tweeted that if the U.N. World Food Program “can describe on this Twitter thread exactly how $6B will solve world hunger, I will sell Tesla stock right now and do it.”

WFP director David Beasley called his bluff, and actually outlined how the organization would use the $6.6 billion. Musk, who is worth approximately $239.2 billion, never responded to Beasley.

Nomecks ,

I hate Elon, but the point he was trying to make about the $6b for world hunger is that the world is so corrupt it would never work.

Cruxifux ,

It’s corrupt because of people like him.

onionbaggage ,

God. Can you imagine how much better his reputation would be if he just said. “okay, let’s go”

Djangofett , to fediverse in Lemmy Just Reached 1 Million Posts

Hype is real. Feels like this is the place to be. Reddit 2011 vibes with the high quality discussions. It’ll only get better. To the fediverse and beyond!

Dicksinabag ,

Yep, I agree. I miss those days of Reddit

Krakatoacoo ,
@Krakatoacoo@lemmy.world avatar

Same here.

hogart ,

I wonder what the first topic of Mondays meeting at Reddit HQ will be? And if the overall feeling is gonna be positive or negative? Oh I wonder.

Hubi ,

Reddit seems like the type of company where nobody dares to tell the CEO about any negative developments.

Lentsikka ,

Russia of the internet, one might compare.

Jumpinship ,

Speznazi Pootin

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Reddit user of 12 years here. God I hope this place takes off like Voat was supposed to. Reddit has just changed so damn much. I was honestly sick of the place since before the crazy app meltdown.

Celediel ,

I’ve got high hopes for Lemmy, and the Fediverse in general. Voat’s issue was it was a haven for fascists and fascist sympathizers, and a centralized site made that the general vibe. The federated model makes it so they can do what they want in their own little corner of shit, and the rest of us can ignore them like they deserve.

Black_Gulaman ,
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I only worry about brigading. Where they plan to slowly infiltrate a small instance and in a flick of a switch the simultaneously try to take over, overwhelming the admin.

criscodisco ,

The only issue I have right now is that reddit is a good source of technical answers. Kind of like SE without the dismissive, condescending douchebag attitude that seems to be automatic there. Every single time it sounds like they are replying to someone that is actively bothering them. Like dude, you came on the website, checked the forums, and decided to answer. I didn’t send you a text or some shit.

EdibleFriend ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

As one of those long time users… yeah. That’s going to be an issue. So much of my Googling is blah blah blah Reddit

charles ,

I think there’s a decent chance it will. At the bare minimum, it already feels much better to me than voat ever did.

sirboozebum ,

Let’s not look back on reddit with rose tinted glasses.

Much of it was always a dumpster fire.

MonkderVierte , (edited ) to programmer_humor in Just a dad helping out

Static, low-js, HTML tags used-as-intended, some basic CSS for formatting, responsivity and dark/light. Modern-looking accessible webpage from scratch done in half a day.

Btw, github.com/…/awesome-motherfucking-website

bisby ,

If we assume “half a day” is 4 hours, and 500 pounds. That’s 125 pounds per hour. Which isn’t the worst rate. Assuming it’s actually capped at 4 hours and we all know that if it’s your dad’s friend, this is not going to be a set and forget kind of thing. So that 4 hours quickly becomes 10. And suddenly you’re down to 50 pounds per hour. And then if it’s actually static and simple and good, you still have high odds of getting insane feedback demanding changes to make it worse. A motherfucking website would actually be the best option, but wouldn’t get you paid. At that point youre just doing it for the lols.

But ultimately, this isn’t even about the rate or how much time this will take. this whole scenario depends heavily on the son here. Is the son unemployed and living in dad’s basement for free? Then yeah. Sorry, he should probably take any work he can get for any rate he can get. His dad gets a lot more say in how things work financially if the son is relying on him financially. But if the son is already working a full time job and living in his own house? Then no, I don’t care what the rate is. Don’t commandeer other people’s time. Don’t make deals that people haven’t agreed to. Come to me with opportunities, not demands.

MonkderVierte ,

Yeah, sorry, i couldn’t resist to hint on how ridicolously overengineered most professional webpages are.

bisby ,

theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell

You’re not wrong, but a lot of time those webpages aren’t overengineered because the developer wanted it to be, but because the client kept making more and more demands.

RealM__ ,

The irony of some dude trying to prove a point that a website doesn’t need to be bloated and burdened with all the design and fancy scripts, just for other people to incrementally built on top of that idea, one-upping each other in the process, mimicking the exact evolution of the modern bloated website as we know it.

MonkderVierte ,

From one of them:

“You’re a fucking moron if you use default browser styles.”

Or just change your browser settings (they shouldn’t be ugly by default).

frezik ,

You have a problem with Mosaic Gray?

sparkle , (edited )

Honestly I hate the fact that browsers’ default CSS exists. The person doing the frontend should have to specify their “default” CSS before the website even loads. I say this as both a user and a programmer, the same website shouldn’t look different or break on different browsers unintentionally due to the browser’s CSS, and I as a developer shouldn’t have to rely on reset sheets to try to patch that.

Everything would be better if it were swapped around, instead of picking out a reset sheet for a site you pick out a default style…

The world would also be better if browsers rendered pugjs/slim and scss/sass and those were the default rather than html and css but I digress…

bolexforsoup , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit fucking over their kid.

if so what do I do?

Dig out the fucking birth certificate they gave you by default for free because surely you didn’t do something as stupid as throw it out in a selfish attempt to consign your children to this insane lifestyle choice.

over_clox , (edited )

I just literally looked at my birth certificate, and it took them an entire month after my birth to issue it. Took them even longer to issue me a SS number.

Try looking at yours. You just might find that the paperwork wasn’t printed out the same day you popped out either.

Edit: Partially edited to try to be more polite, but also…

The government had me so screwed up right after I was born, that not only did it take them a month to issue me a birth certificate, but they actually ended up screwing that up, and I actually have two birth certificates and two SS cards, and even two SS numbers no less (though the first one there is false).

Obviously I’m not about to share my private info, I’m just here to say that the government fucks up sometimes.

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  • over_clox ,

    Thank you for calling me out, yes my initial comment started off a bit salty, so I edited. My bad. Whatever.

    But please provide evidence that the woman threw the paperwork away, there is absolutely no evidence of it here…

    over_clox ,

    I also never said my paperwork was ‘lost in the mail’ as you suggested. I’m saying it took the government an entire month to issue my birth certificate.

    In the meantime, I had no paperwork for the first month of my life.

    Shit like that happens.

    TheEntity ,

    The odds of it being a literal newborn yet to be issued a birth certificate are minuscule compared to the odds of sovcits just doing the sovcit shit. “Our youngest” can mean almost any age, probably up to 10yo if I were to guess.

    over_clox ,

    I dunno what a ‘sovcit’ is, though I did just look it up. Sounds like a buncha bullshit to me.

    I’m almost 42 years old and partly Native American. I should have more rights on this land than many other people, fuckall with that ‘sovcit’ shit.

    No, I’m not here to claim or reclaim rights of Native American land, just here to express my opinion.

    And I rightly don’t care if people like my opinions or not.

    Not mad at you or anyone else, downvote me into oblivion if you so care. Hope you and everyone else has a good day.

    AtHeartEngineer ,
    @AtHeartEngineer@lemmy.world avatar

    The other comments were also arguing against sovcit, in fact, a lot of this community is screenshots of FB posts about sovcit stuff, that this community makes fun of.

    I understand the point you were trying to make about it being possible they had a new born that was yet to be issued a birth certificate, and that’s definitely possible, but if a screenshot of a FB post ends up here, it may just be some unhinged sovcit stuff.

    over_clox ,

    At least someone gets where I was coming from. I hope you have a most excellent day. 👍

    Chronographs ,

    She could have also had the child outside of a hospital and never told the government instead of throwing it away. Equally stupid though

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    More stupid because the mother or child could have died without immediate medical attention if something had gone wrong.

    Plenty of hospitals will accommodate something akin to a home birth setup where a woman can choose to give birth without any painkillers or an episiotomy and will even often allow midwives and doulas to attend. They just make sure the woman is in an environment where both her or her baby’s lives could potentially be saved in the event of something catastrophic.

    Klanky ,
    @Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Yeah my wife gave birth at a place like that, had midwives and nurses but was more of a home feeling setup, worked with the hospital and a fire department was right next door with an ambulance in case anything went wrong. They also didn’t allow any high risk pregnancies. I felt like it was a great compromise and my wife loved it. It’s totally doable in a safe way if you can find an above board place.

    AnalogyAddict ,

    Are you talking about a birth center?

    My oldest was born in a hospital, but it was such an awful experience, my second was born in a birthing center. So much better on so many levels.

    Klanky ,
    @Klanky@sopuli.xyz avatar

    Yeah it was a birthing center.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    A birthing center is also a far safer alternative to a home birth. Probably just as safe as a hospital, if not safer due to the staff being more specialized (I’m not sure which has a better safety record in that regard). The point is, medical professionals need to be around just in case.

    khannie ,
    @khannie@lemmy.world avatar

    I read an autobiography years ago about a girl in the US who had grown up in fairly extreme poverty. She ended up going on to great things. I unfortunately can’t remember the name of the book but it was a really good read.

    Anyway, one of the things that stuck with me was that home births with no hospital intervention were fairly common mostly because of cost but (and my memory on this is hazy) I think also this kind of “avoid the government” basis. They had midwives / nurses come on an unofficial basis.

    takeda ,

    Not sure I understand the problem. When my daughter was born it also took about a month (at least a few weeks) to get it, and since that was normal the hospital provided a temporary one exactly for that reason. SSN also came in mail around that time frame.

    The insurance allowed to register without SSN and provide the SSN later as it was normal to not have it just when the child was just born.

    I think there was an option to not get SSN when filling the document for birth certificate, but when searching why I wouldn’t want that I realized it was a bad idea.

    over_clox ,

    I’m not exactly sure what the complication was from the original post either, but the lady said her husband just got a new job, and they’re trying to enroll their children for benefits.

    Not sure what exactly she means by benefits, but taking the short post at face value, I interpret it as she’s trying to get her kids on the company insurance, but they’re being screwy about a newborn because ‘wE nEEd tO sEe tHE paPErWoRK’

    BonesOfTheMoon OP ,

    I assume health care benefits like dental, etc from their job.

    Duranie ,

    Where does newborn come into this? It says “youngest”, which sure I guess could be a newborn, but my youngest is 22 years old.

    It’s been a while since I had my kids, but it took about a month for the paperwork to be processed for them to get birth certificates. They never mailed them to us, but we were told that after a month we should be able to go to the country clerk’s office to pick them up.

    Aside from that, when signing up for benefits from an employer, in my previous experiences I had X number of days to get my paperwork in for finalization. Even if this were a newborn situation, there’s enough paperwork from the hospital to generally appease HR types till the real one is available.

    over_clox ,

    You ever had a SS number that starts with 950?

    I have. 950 numbers aren’t even valid. They had to issue me a legit number later.

    Good luck trying to process a temporary placeholder number.

    Thunderbird4 ,

    You’re assuming this child was born in a hospital. A lot of these nutty types will do a home birth either by themselves or with a midwife sympathetic to their ideals. In either case, the kid is born without any official documentation, which majorly screws them over later in life, especially if they later decide to join the civilized world.

    bolexforsoup ,

    That’s a very good point especially if they become sovcits prior to having kids. And it’s not like they’re bringing these kids to pediatricians or getting them their vaccines or putting them in school.

    bassomitron ,

    There was actually a Radiolab episode about this scenario. A kid grew up with insane parents and later joined the real world and was in a fucked up legal limbo status due to there being no record of their birth. They couldn’t prove they were even a natural citizen of the US. It’s been several years since I listened to that episode, but iirc their state senator/some politician ended up campaigning on their behalf to get laws made to cover these fringe cases so in the future, kids like these aren’t completely screwed. Not sure if the law ended up getting passed or not. Anyway, it was the first time I’d heard of people doing this kind of crap to their kids and it blew my mind. Utterly selfish and abusive.

    Edit: found the episode: radiolab.org/podcast/invisible-girl

    spongebue ,

    I’m sure it depends on the jurisdiction, but when my daughter was born we filled out the paperwork in the hospital but had to go to the county health department office to get a birth certificate when it was actually issued. I think we may have had to pay a small amount for it too.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Huh yeah I guess I take that for granted

    Dieterlan , to insanepeoplefacebook in Sovcit did a thing.

    Narrator: She did, in fact, take no for an answer.

    Tar_alcaran ,

    “i gave up and left, but won’t take no for an answer!”

    ASeriesOfPoorChoices ,

    that ending was probably the most insane part of that post - and it was a pretty insane post.

    punkwalrus , to lemmyshitpost in Not to mom shame...
    @punkwalrus@lemmy.world avatar

    Someone did a study at MIT about tin foil hats, and found that not only do they not screen radio interference, in some cases, can actually magnify them.

    Conclusion: The helmets amplify frequency bands that coincide with those allocated to the US government between 1.2 Ghz and 1.4 Ghz. According to the FCC, These bands are supposedly reserved for ‘‘radio location’’ (ie, GPS), and other communications with satellites (see, for example, [3]). The 2.6 Ghz band coincides with mobile phone technology. Though not affiliated by government, these bands are at the hands of multinational corporations. It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC. We hope this report will encourage the paranoid community to develop improved helmet designs to avoid falling prey to these shortcomings.

    CosmicTurtle0 ,

    MIT is obviously is trying to trick us into removing our protection!

    synae ,
    @synae@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    So tinfoil hats are pushed by the mind-controllers, and those that are persuaded by this weak signal start wearing them to receive the signal more strongly and be mind-controlled more thoroughly

    Frozengyro ,

    Exactly what the mind controllers want you to think. They want you to think they don’t work, but I know, I know the truth!

    TurtleJoe ,
    @TurtleJoe@lemmy.world avatar

    Duh. Everybody knows the only thing that works is Velostat. You cannot use any other material.

    MrShankles ,

    Copyright from 1999-2020. Time to start selling off-brand versions!

    Excrubulent ,
    @Excrubulent@slrpnk.net avatar

    It’s been used successfully by former abductees for 25 years.

    i.pinimg.com/…/22b854e09dfe2c46ef5941e51d365444.j…

    GoosLife ,

    That is a genius conclusion.

    Crowfiend ,

    I was all-in on that paragraph, but then the last statement rolled into vision, and now I can’t take it seriously again.

    fishbone ,

    Correction: someone did a study at MIT about aluminum helmets, not tin foil hats. The important distinction being aluminum vs. tin.

    Word to the wise: Only buy tin for your protective day wear, as it hasn’t been proven ineffective at blocking radio waves by MIT, unlike aluminum. Stay safe out there!

    Quick addendum: This is a bit. Don’t come after me, Big Aluminum.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    aluminum vs. tin

    isnt most if not all tinfoilj just aluminum foil these days? It’s one of the legacy terms that nobody really uses correctly anymore.

    NegativeInf ,

    Correct!

    AeonFelis ,

    Obviously an Illuminati plot to prevent us from effectively shielding ourselves from their mind control.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    oh shit, my bad.

    AeonFelis ,

    No, your statement was 100% correct. What I’m saying is that the Illuminati were the ones who changed the material tinfoil is made of in order to make it less effective.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    oh shit, you’re right, this is a conspiracy!

    dodgy_bagel , (edited )

    There is also steel and gold foil. Neither is great for hats, but they’re still options!

    radicalautonomy , (edited )
    @radicalautonomy@lemmy.world avatar

    “Oh…no, no, no honey, the steel foil hat doesn’t go with that outfit, try the gold one.”

    JovialMicrobial ,

    They could start wearing those lead vests radiologists put on you when you get an xray alongside the aluminum hats. We know those definitely block radiation at least. Maybe a combo would make it block mind control rays extra good.

    dodgy_bagel , (edited )

    If we’re in the business of blocking/absorbing signals instead of reflecting them, apparently cesium bromide is a solid choice.

    www.photonics.com/Articles/…/a25495

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