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dullbananas ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

I apprieciate easypeasymethod.org

MonsiuerPatEBrown ,

Look how Greenzo’s testing!

feedum_sneedson ,

blegs

feedum_sneedson ,

blorx

feedum_sneedson ,

blix

vertigo3pc ,

I’m a simple man, I wanna see everyone fuck.

MBM ,

Isn’t blacks (noun) considered dehumanizing?

Metanoia ,

I suppose it depends on context.

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

what word would you use instead?

MBM ,

Just black, as in “the black version of gonewild”

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

but thats what it says

troglodytis ,

Read it again.

stebo02 ,
@stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

black gone wild, blacks gone wild, what’s the difference? just a single letter? how is one respectful and the other not?

paddirn ,

“African-Americans Gone Wild” or "People of Color Gone Wild " just don’t seem to have the same ring to it, I guess. I’m pretty sure almost any other term you might use would be frowned upon.

ShrimpsIsBugs ,

Not all black people are African-American or even African or American, you know? I’d be way more irritated if someone called me African-American than black, since one of these is true and the other simply isn’t.

paddirn ,

Yeah, that’s why I added the “People of Color Gone Wild”, since the other isn’t really all-inclusive. Race is so weird to talk about in the US though, it’s like no matter how you talk about it as a white person, you’re stepping on somebody’s toes somewhere. It’s like we can’t even discuss anything without the terminology itself becoming an issue, which just sort of derails any other conversations you might be having. I get why the topic is necessary in some cases, but it feels like it needlessly complicated things at times.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Ebony, or GoneWildColor as the existing reddit community was already named.

Stinkywinks ,

Pretty sure they prefer black like native Americans prefer Indians. Can we call people white? I’ve never heard anyone wants to be called ebony. I only know the term ebony from porn

pyff , (edited )
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

“Pretty sure they”…

Nope, I’ll stop you right there. And the context is porn. Note, again, the term being discussed is not Black, which is perfectly kosher, but referring to Black people as “blacks”, which is considered dehumanizing.

As for alternatives, the existing PoC-run reddit communities are called Ebony, GoneWildColor, GWBlackGirls, etc. Hopefully that gives you some insight.

Stinkywinks ,

Yeah because the majority of blacks use reddit and ebony porn sites. So do you call them ebonies?

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Not exactly sure what you’re asking, but no, collective nouns aren’t generally pluralized in English, nor is the term appropriate outside of a porn context. Are you a native English speaker?

Stinkywinks ,

Why is the term acceptable to porn, do they not use English?

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

It’s far more acceptable than “blacks”. It also avoids the issue of associating general search terms for groups of people with sexualized contexts as has unfortunately been done to Asian women and others.

Stinkywinks ,

Pfffffft, sounds like a load of bs. What about Brazilians?

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Brazilian isn’t a race, and Black isn’t a nationality. Incredibly, it’s even possible to be both. I hope your confusion has been cleared up.

Stinkywinks ,

You said Asians. So what about Persians?

Stinkywinks ,

Blacks and whites. Indians and Asians. Look, it’s plural. Add an S, guess it’s dehumanizing? I think the term daddy is dehumanizing. Please, only use dad. Do not add another dy.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Yes, generally referring to groups of people as pluralized adjectives is considered dehumanizing.

Note that Blacks and the Blacks are both considered offensive and should not be used. Black people is the preferred plural form of Black.

www.archives.gov/research/catalog/…/black-person

[A]im to use Black as an adjective, not a noun. Also, when describing a group, use Black people instead of just “Blacks.”

nabjonline.org/news-media-center/styleguide/

This is for the exact same reason you would not refer to a singular Black person as “a black”. If you still have trouble perceiving the issue, consider how jarring the term “a gay” would seem in print.

Stinkywinks ,

I didn’t say “a black”, context matters no? Everyone thought saying Indian was offensive and came up with native American, until realizing that is more offensive? Just because it’s plural doesn’t make it dehumanizing. Black people says blacks, I don’t hear them say a group of black people.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Are you under the impression that race and nationality are equivalent? If you’re asking whether the term is considered dehumanizing, that’s been answered for you, and if you’re asking why, that’s been answered as well. In English, racial and ethnic terms are generally used as adjectives, and we don’t use adjectives as nouns when referring to groups of people.

Stinkywinks ,

I think what is dehumanizing is a matter of opinion

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Exactly, and only one fucking opinion matters. That of the people affected. Glad we cleared that up, cheers.

pascal ,

When I lived in Kenya, basically every one called me musungu which is used for westerns but means literally “white face”, I don’t think I felt dehumanised, but that was years ago before Chinese people invaded Kenya.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Okay

pascal ,

Oh, sorry, my point of view from another part of the world that doesn’t endorse your agenda is too much inconvenient for you?

Pyroglyph ,
@Pyroglyph@lemmy.world avatar

Calling black people “ebony” is like calling white people “porcelain”. It’s romanticising their skin colour. It may make sense for things like porn, but please don’t refer to any group with that sort of name in a normal context. It’s incredibly weird.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Exactly right, but the context being discussed is porn.

Pyroglyph ,
@Pyroglyph@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising, and then you were asked what word you’d use instead.
At this moment it isn’t unreasonable to think the context has changed from porn community titles to your personal thoughts on how to refer to a specific ethnic group in any situation.
That’s how I (and I assume many others) read the situation.

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Yes, but you’ve also said that referring to people as “black” is dehumanising

No. Myself, and the commenter who was being responded to, said that referring to Black people as “blacks” is dehumanizing, which it is, and the context being asked for was an alternative term for an NSFW community. Hopefully that clarifies the issue.

DokPsy ,

I believe you’ll find that it’s Ebony and Ivory. … Side by side in perfect harmony

SRo ,

No

pyff ,
@pyff@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Yes, it is.

jeanma ,

This is something typically American to be astonished by such thing or to talk about diversity all the freaking time.

guts ,

Like their identity.

Nepenthe ,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

Well yeah, I'd imagine there's not a whole lot of diversity talk from ethnostates

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

Everyone gone wild!

nrezcm ,

You get a gone wild! You get a gone wild! Everyone gets a gone wild!

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

Gone wild gone sexual

frippa ,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

Me, on lemmy.ml where the only trending communities are dead communities with 3 members created 2 years ago:

TheProtagonist ,

Let me guess:

The first one is „God is dead“ by admin „K_Marx“

The second one is: „Marx is dead“ by admin „God“

But can’t you be on lemmy.ml and follow all the interesting communities from other instances (which might be harder to find, though)?

frippa ,
@frippa@lemmy.ml avatar

The only instances that are blocked are porn ones, that’s a thing I don’t miss from reddit tbh, but the swear filter is really dumb. And doesn’t really fucking filters swears, but it’s really dumb regardless, since it’s neither opt-in nor opt-out, it’s just there.

TheProtagonist ,

This almost seems like if the “god fraction“ has won…

I know that they had a “no porn” rule, but “no swearing” is new to me. Surely it will be a healthy family-friendly community.

I have no issue with some occasional nudes in my timeline. I could blur or filter it, if I would want to avoid this.

But porn in the web for me is an important part of the “freedom of expression”, therefore I find it anachronistic if some community tries to block / ban this.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Sure, but porn is so easily available that one only needs to explicitly look for it. Meanwhile there was a deluge of fetish communities appearing that every user had to block individually if they didn’t want 10 fart fetish posts on their timeline, so it was a quality of life improvement to block those communities on the server level.

TheProtagonist , (edited )

Of course you can get anything online if you go for it. But this kind of occasional nudes in my “all” timeline reminds me of the old Reddit days - and is quite nice as long as it doesn’t become too much.

So far I’ve never seen any fart-fetish community / post in my timeline tbh.

abbotsbury ,
@abbotsbury@lemmy.world avatar

Well it wasn’t really occasional at the start when lots of people started creating new communities, every day there would be a bunch of new posts from new communities appearing in All

before we had defederated from the porn server, I had blocked

-Diaper porn

-Gone wild

-One just called “porn”

-Hentai

-Sissy chastity

-huge boobs

-Celebs

-Yiff (ifkyk)

-Ass

-Anal

-General NSFW

-Femboys

-Lewd Games

-Rule34

-AsiansGoneWild

-Furry Chat

-Gay furry porn

-Furry Videos

-Petplay Yiff

-feet

-sapphic hentai

-sapphic art

-Sissies

-Hentai - BDSM

-GoneMild

-Grool

-GoneMildPlus

-Trans Hydro Hotties

-Blowjob

and at some point it’s like, could we make porn opt-in instead of playing whack a mole with every niche fetish? Yeah there’s an NSFW option, but that’s more for hiding the images themselves, not ignoring the communities or servers.

RufusFirefly ,
@RufusFirefly@lemmy.world avatar

I thought that was an exchange between Nietzsche and God, or it used to be. Anyway, I was unaware that the double low-9 quotation mark was even a thing so thanks for that.

decadentrebel ,
@decadentrebel@lemmy.world avatar

“Alright, pussy, pussy, pussy! Come on in Pussy lovers!

Here at Lemmy we’re slashing pussy in half! Give us an offer on our vast selection of pussy, this is a pussy blow out! Alright, we got white pussy, black pussy, Spanish pussy, yellow pussy. We got hot pussy, cold pussy. We got wet pussy. We got smelly pussy. We got hairy pussy, bloody pussy. We got snapping pussy. We got silk pussy, velvet pussy, naugahyde pussy. We even got horse pussy, dog pussy, chicken pussy.

C’mon, you want pussy, come on in Pussy Lovers! If we don’t got it, you don’t want it! Come on in Pussy lovers!”

PlantDadManGuy ,

Definitely the greatest monologue in all of film 🤣

TheProtagonist ,

Source (for the younger folks):

piped.video/watch?v=wQL7ugHlFnE

SocialMediaRefugee ,
PipedLinkBot ,

Here is an alternative Piped link(s): piped.video/watch?v=98-GgVyinbo

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source, check me out at GitHub.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

Crap, the bots are coming over from reddit too

codemaster ,

Good bot

meldroc ,

overwatchnsfw?

Now that’s just sad!

GladiusB ,
@GladiusB@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t kink shame me

EmoDuck ,

These people are pioneers in 3D animation. I once saw one of them animate a video of D.VA being spit-roasted with nothing but a potato and a box of thumbtacks

Boogeyman4325 ,

For real though. I swear, some of those animations are more detailed and well-animated then anything Pixar could produce.

delicious_tvarog ,

Internet horndogs are undefeated

turtlepower ,

Porn drives technology. VHS beat Betamax because of porn. BluRay beat HDDVD because of porn. The internet is for porn.

Historical_General ,
@Historical_General@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t they induce actual improvements to Blender code so that they could create these animations more easily and without having to use ruinously priced industry software?

ahriboy ,

Rule 34 League of Legends when

Agent641 ,

TF2NSFW is where its at

Orioh , (edited )

L take.

I may be cringe, but I am free

oneshibbyguy ,

Porn is going to bring people by the droves, trust me

SMITHandWESSON ,
@SMITHandWESSON@lemmy.world avatar

Lol, I’m pretty sure porn drives almost every new innovation in entertainment technology.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

First thing Cro-Magnon man did was make a carving of a nude chick

mojofrododojo ,

And sculpting for 35,000 years, they may even predate cro-magnons! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_figurine

Agent641 ,

“Ogg call this style ‘bbw’. Ogg like fat woman, can survive many winter. When Ogg dongdong cold, ogg stick between giant boobies. When ogg ears cold, ogg put head between giant thighs. Ogg think life pretty sweet.”

MotoAsh ,

I’m going to go out on a limb and say I bet even monkeys rub one out to an extra curvy piece of wood from time to time. Especially the ones that have mating seasons.

How much more annoying would humans be if there was an annual “horny teenager” time? Spring break would be something else.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

Based on my experiences at zoos I’d say you are probably correct.

Dirk ,
@Dirk@lemmy.ml avatar

There are only two reasons something is successful. 1: It can be used for military things, 2: It can be used for porn.

paraphrand ,

Nah

SocialMediaRefugee ,

Power to the penis…I mean people!

new_acct_who_dis ,

Look. Asking for an old, scared-of-clicking-on-the-wrong-thing-when-trying-to-just-have-a-quick-dj-diddles-moment friend.

How y’all finding porn on here? I’m still just looking at front page. No idea how to look anything up on purpose.

Or so my friend tells me.

Dr_Wu ,

Mostly on the lemmynsfw.com instance

x4740N ,
@x4740N@lemmy.world avatar

Which I’ve had to block so any communities from because this is my main account

kaklerbitmap ,
@kaklerbitmap@lemmy.world avatar

For a second I thought there was one that might be interesting but then I realized I had misread and “Jack Russels Gone Wild” was not in the list.

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