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EdgeRunner , (edited ) to selfhosted in Problem while trying to setup an instance

At first glance, i would say you need to add Jakob as a sudo user first :

askubuntu.com/questions/7477/ddg#7484

And then install ansible-playbook,

Infinitus OP ,

Thanks!

EdgeRunner ,

You welcome mate,
I hope thats good for you now, don’t hesitate to ask for the next steps, if you encounter others issues.

Gl, and have fun,

harsh3466 , to foodporn in Banh mi

I love a good Báhn Mì

knatschus , to startrek in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?

When it came out i was hyped, but my interrest quickly faded away, so i haven’t watched it all.

Like: the doc. Some episodes are very philosophycal.

Dislike: nearly all characters are bland average american a and b on a space ship. The intro is awful. The setting. Same problems as with discovery. I love to see the progression of the trek universe those shows add none and are just forced into the already existing history.

JackDark ,

Can you elaborate on the same problems as Discovery? I have a lot of problems with both Enterprise and Discovery, but none of them overlap.

knatschus ,

The time frame, the trek universe is too dense to fit a good prequel in it.

Suddenly there was a Archer before Pike and Kirk. Suddenly the Universe is a Fungus and warp drive isn’t that impressive anymore.

While most Star Trek episodes stand for themself, I always loved big arcs of war and discoveries. Prequels can’t give me that and mirror universes make it even worse for me.

grendel , to lemmyshitpost in Someone didn't think out the implications.
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  • DumbAceDragon ,
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    You fool! Now she has 1.4 billion, and can buy him for 100 million. This was her plan all along!

    Tar_alcaran ,

    This ignores legal realities about property and transferring wealth. When she buys him for 400mil, she will briefly place the money in escrow, reducing them to 700 and 400mil. Then, when he becomes her property, Taylor also gains his assets, reaching 1.5 billion when the escrow is released.

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  • jalda ,

    but after first purchase her assets go up to 1.5bil and his assets go to .8bil

    Nope, his assets go to $0, as they belong to her now. What you propose is the economical equivalent of a perpetual motion machine

    grendel ,
    @grendel@lemmy.world avatar

    his assets go to $0

    And to whom then Taylor Swift pays said 400million? They just disappear? Or do you assume Kanye is already owned by someone and the money goes to his actual owner, not Kanye himself?

    postmateDumbass ,

    Yeah no.

    Her assets: ~1.5b

    His assets:

    USAONE ,
    @USAONE@lemmy.world avatar

    They did the math

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    I mean, you’re assuming she’s buying him from him, historically speaking there was some violence and a third party involved.

    redcalcium , (edited ) to selfhosted in Problem while trying to setup an instance

    If you’re not familiar with Ansible, I recommend to install your Lemmy instance using docker compose or Lemmy Easy Deploy.

    If you still want to use Ansible, make sure to use version >= 2.11.0 . From the screenshot, chance that you might accidentally installed v2.10

    Infinitus OP ,

    Thank you! Will try.

    jordanlund , to startrek in What do you like and dislike about Star Trek Enterprise?
    @jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

    I actually really enjoyed the show. Theme song was on point. I liked that Archer had a dog. The Temporal Prime Directive shenanigans.

    But the thing I hated was taking all the agency from the show by making the final episode a Next Gen episode. :( Even Voyager was treated better at the end.

    YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
    @YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

    I deleted the last episode from my digital collection and view it as noncanon.

    SatansMaggotyCumFart , to foodporn in Banh mi

    This needs a cross section.

    kautau , to funny in Some people just want to watch the world burn

    I was curious so I looked it up. This is Amharic

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amharic

    ChatGPT says “The text in the image seems to be related to some kind of health service or program, but it is not very clear due to the low quality of the image”

    JGrffn ,

    … Chat gpt can look at images now?

    kautau ,

    ChatGPT 4 can

    mindbleach ,

    That or it’s good at bullshitting.

    halm ,
    @halm@leminal.space avatar

    Bullshitting is its primary feature.

    unrelatedkeg ,

    So it’s basically grat at mind reading

    PeriodicallyPedantic ,

    Other people in the comments have already used Google translate on it, it’s pretty fucked up.

    MxM111 , to lemmyshitpost in Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.

    Do young people not using phone numbers for this today??? Those pre-date e-mails for many, many years…

    KISSmyOS ,

    No they use Instagram.

    SpaceNoodle ,

    Gross

    BeMoreCareful ,

    Or Snapchat, or some other young people thing

    SeekPie ,

    MySpace?

    Slovene ,

    Geocities?

    WhiskyTangoFoxtrot ,

    IRC

    Stimulant7261 ,

    NNTP

    rambling_lunatic ,

    talk(1)

    Stimulant7261 ,

    RTTY; baby, what frequency can I find you on?

    KISSmyOS ,

    Usenet

    CluelessDude ,

    Hi5

    GuyDudeman ,
    @GuyDudeman@lemmy.world avatar

    But Instagram is so much less efficient than just texting.

    KISSmyOS ,

    Is it? It allows both to check out each other out a bit before committing to a date.

    GuyDudeman ,
    @GuyDudeman@lemmy.world avatar

    ??? Who said anything about dating?

    jubilationtcornpone ,

    The communication dynamics of kids are weird. Weirder than I remember anyway. My teenager knows other kids who literally will not talk to you if you’re not on Snapchat or Instagram. For whatever reason they simply refuse to text.

    My kid spends an absurd amount of time taking pictures of half her face to send snaps with.

    I think if you don’t want to text or call me, then you don’t want to talk to me that bad.

    LemmysMum ,

    Communication has become reactive instead of proactive.

    jubilationtcornpone ,

    I’ve never heard it put that way before but I think you might be on to something.

    stebo02 ,
    @stebo02@sopuli.xyz avatar

    what exactly do you mean by that? isn’t communication always about reacting to each other?

    CoolBeance ,
    @CoolBeance@lemmy.world avatar

    Holy shit you’re right. I feel like I just grew a brain cell

    DagonPie ,
    @DagonPie@lemmy.world avatar

    Ive chatted with people before who exclusively talked on snapchat even after getting their number. Its strange to me. Ive since deleted snapchat and have texted a couple of these people with no response. Im getting too old.

    LemmyKnowsBest ,

    It’s just funny because people who prefer to communicate through email seem more geriatric than people who prefer to communicate by phone

    rambaroo ,

    For real this just makes the 23 year old seem inept. I don’t get this meme

    EatYouWell , to lemmyshitpost in I knew it all along!

    Who wants to bet he’s just a Helpdesk tech and has no idea what an actual computer engineer is?

    Mamertine ,

    I’m a data engineer and I have no idea what a computer engineer is.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    You, but actually knows things.

    iusearchbtw ,

    I’m a computer engineer and I affirm you the earth is flat.

    loutr ,
    @loutr@sh.itjust.works avatar

    I know an engineer who’s into all kinds of bat-shit conspiracy theories…

    TheDarksteel94 ,

    I work in 1st level support, and we don’t want anything to do with this guy. He’s too stupid, even for us lol

    drahardja , to mildlyinfuriating in I got this popup ad on my TV **while watching a DVD**

    Protip: Do not connect your TV to the Internet.

    bigFab ,

    Protip: destroy your ‘smart’ TV.

    Tja ,

    Protip: burn your house

    Jackhammer_Joe ,

    Protip: burn down the world

    CosmicCleric ,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    Protip: read Protips

    key ,

    Protip: tip the pros

    ridethisbike ,

    The real protips are always in the comments

    CuttingBoard ,

    ^This

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    You go ahead and destroy something that cost you hundreds of dollars. Be it a TV or cans of Bud Light, I’m not going to destroy something I already got out of some need for a moral victory.

    I hate ‘smart’ TVs. I wish they didn’t exist. But telling someone to destroy the one they already had- meaning that if they want to watch TV, they’ll just have to buy another- doesn’t really make much sense to me.

    bigFab ,

    That sounds actually reasonable, but I’m not taking any advice from a flying squid.

    PopOfAfrica ,

    I ended up giving up and just putting a Linux PC attached to my TV as a media center. I host plex on it.

    SkippingRelax ,

    I don’t see how this is giving up though. Been doing this to close to two decades in one form of another and I wouldn’t consider any other way. Except kodi instead of plexus here.

    nevetsg ,

    I still watch TV through a Laptop running Windows Media Centre. MS have given up on trying to kill it. The Microsoft remote has seen better days but is still functioning.

    Chee_Koala ,

    I mean, steam made it work with games, you telling me that 6-7 of these giant media companies can’t get it to work for video? The giving up part is that you have to embrace piracy (again?) to get to acceptable levels of service per dollar

    AFallingAnvil ,
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    This is the way (Jellyfin here)

    MrBusiness ,

    I’m new to all this. Got any recommendations how to learn about Jellyfin?

    KpntAutismus ,

    while often outdated, there are youtube tutorials. you could buy a cheap thinkcentre or set up a virtual machine to try it out.

    personally, i run truenas scale with jellyfin as an “app” on my old PC.

    AFallingAnvil ,
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    So here’s how I’m running things: At the top level it’s a Raspberry pi 5 running raspbian, then everything else (jellyfin, prowlarr, radarr, sonarr, Usenet download software, etc) is a docker container. If that sounds like how you want to do it feel free to message me and I can try to get you on your feet

    ApathyTree ,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    I’m not who you replied to but I’ve been looking to set up something like this (I have a year old dedicated tower for hosting)

    But I don’t know anything about docker, and it seems like a pretty big learn - is it required for the sonarr radarr and overseerr stuff, or just a nice to have thing?

    AFallingAnvil ,
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    It’s not required it’s just a lot smoother to update and sort things out. I recommend it but you don’t need it.

    ApathyTree ,
    @ApathyTree@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Fair enough, thanks!

    Rai ,

    I’m using OMV headless and have zero luck with Docker or Portainer.

    Is it going to be easier to set up Docker using Raspbian with a GUI?

    AFallingAnvil , (edited )
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    I used CLI for setup, the GUI is just for ease of file management and checking libraries. I recommend hotio for super easy images to just fire and forget. Links I hope will help you: hotio.dev/containers/jellyfin/wiki.servarr.com

    Step 1. Get docker up and running (Portainer helps with other containers) Step 2. Use prowlarr to set up all the search engines you’ll use on other *arr apps Step 3. Set up your libraries with Jellyfin

    Rai ,

    You’re wonderful, thank you! I’m going to leave my local OMV PI4 setup alone and when my pi5 arrives, I’ll try this!

    AFallingAnvil ,
    @AFallingAnvil@lemmy.ca avatar

    Don’t be a stranger if you get stuck, I can’t promise much but I’ll try to help if I can!

    Rai ,

    Thank you so much! I don’t think my Pi5 will come for another couple months, but we’ll see!

    Reverendender , (edited )

    Honestly you can just run the app on your computer and tv connected devices. You don’t have to get fancy. I had trouble getting it setup to recognize and remember my library server address at first, but somehow I got it to work. I don’t like the UI though, and just use PLEX instead.

    PopOfAfrica ,

    Of use jellyfin, but I have too many friends with only consoles that rely on my server. Sigh

    lemmylommy ,

    Until Plex gets unbearable as well. They have been getting a lot shittier lately.

    victorz ,

    Other server software are available of course. The concept stays the same though. Very much recommend doing this. I’m halfway there, running Plex on my desktop PC and watching on my TV and other devices at home. Very comfortable setup. But I wish I had a small computer like a Pi or something, and a NAS to hold my drives. That way my desktop PC could rest.

    Krauerking ,

    Personally I was a fan of buying something like a Dell optiplex as my my NAS and Pihole but I do wish I had a better enclosure for the drives as any truly good one seems to be hundreds of dollars and mildly defeats the idea of self hosting being cheaper.

    MonkeMischief ,

    I just use an old crappy hand-me-down mid-tower gaming case I stuffed some drives into. As long as you can keep them cool, dusted, and away from vibrations (with HDDs), plenty of (used?)cases will have enough HDD slots to get you started.

    Also old rackmount servers on ebay have plenty of slots I hear, but rackmount fans are waaaaay louder.

    victorz ,

    Room is my main issue. Living in an apartment I can’t have large boxes/computers just standing anywhere. So it has to be very small and quiet. 😅 Pi should be perfect. Maybe mount it underneath my desk where my desktop PC is or something. 👍

    MonkeMischief ,

    Right on, that makes sense!

    If you’re not planning on storing absolutely tons of data at first, you can also squeeze a lot into so-called “1 liter PCs”. Traditional platform, a little more power and room than a Pi, and you can neatly tuck them away!

    I hear they float around eBay quite readily these days.

    Sadly haven’t been hearing the very best things about the Pi 5, but earlier ones can do well as little servers.

    I’ve been learning a lot from the self hosted podcast lately haha. Also one of the hosts runs this site (which I happened to find first) that can be pretty helpful!

    https://perfectmediaserver.com/

    I remember some folks on reddit saying USB isn’t the most reliable connection for long-term drives, but I’m not 100% sure what that was about. Maybe the connectors wear out?

    Perhaps someone who knows more can enlighten me.

    Best of luck! I hope you have a lot of fun. 😁

    victorz ,

    Late reply…

    Thank you for all the tips!

    I’m curious: what things have you specifically heard about the Pi 5, if you don’t mind sharing?

    MonkeMischief ,

    Sure thing!

    What I’ve heard about the Pi 5 specifically is that they dropped hardware acceleration support for video encoding. Which is kinda weird, but admittedly I’m a bit out of the Pi loop to really weigh in.

    I believe I heard this on the “Self Hosted Podcast” a while back. (Edit: oh I mentioned them already lol)

    I imagine that might hurt for someone trying to use it for streaming Jellyfin or something like that 🤔.

    I found a forum link here:

    forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?p=2139082#p2…

    dangblingus ,

    There’s always Kodi! You don’t have to update your media server software.

    ramjambamalam ,

    Nah, I’ll just switch to Jellyfin.

    Z4rK ,

    They hit my threshold of shittiness some years back and I’ve been enjoying Jellyfin ever since. It’s a much better alternative for most!

    grue ,

    Plex is a great example of how proprietary software will inevitably become exploitative, and only purely Free Software systems can ever be trustworthy in the long term.

    DarkDarkHouse ,
    @DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    The shark’s in the tank and they’re putting their waterskis on

    vox ,
    @vox@sopuli.xyz avatar

    or just get a cheap-ass android box (like xiaomi or google)

    frokie ,

    I still get Roku recommendations on plex content from my Apple TV. They are doing content recognition off of the hdmi input

    PopOfAfrica ,

    I use a dumb tv. Old 1080I tube tv.

    frokie ,

    Uff between ads and interlaced content?? I’d still try to find a dumb 1080p…

    PopOfAfrica ,

    Interlacing only sucks on progressive TVs because they have to interpolate and scale the Missing information causing artifacting, watching interlaced content on an interlaced television is actually unnoticeable from a progressive display in my opinion, perhaps less sharp, but still.

    frokie ,

    Ok

    CosmicCleric ,
    @CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar
    gh0stcassette ,
    @gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    Honestly, I’m just using a cheap Android TV box with stremio and smart tube. Those two apps pretty much cover everything I’d wanna watch. Those $20 Walmart ones are super easy to root/bootloader unlock too, so you can put lineageOS on it if you want

    riodoro1 ,

    What? Am i supposed to watch tv? Hell nah

    Tja ,

    Exactly. Streaming is so much better than TV. People complain about 5s skippable ads and the pripesed solution is 5 minutes of ads?

    Also, so much more convenient than DVDs.

    frokie ,

    No, the solution is not going back to cable. The solution is the high seas

    Tja ,

    Aye!

    v4ld1z ,
    @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

    Just get a cheap PS4 or Xbox and watch all your stuff on there. We have an LG “Smart TV” that just doesn’t need to be connected to the internet because our PS5 (formerly PS4) is fast and snappy, and has all the apps we could want to stream off. Plus, both have a Bluray player installed right off the bat, so we can even watch those if we’re up for it.

    Don’t bother with sluggish performance on your Smart TV, it’s just not worth it.

    RampantParanoia2365 ,

    What’s the practical difference between using a console and a smart TV? Aside from this one feature I mean, which I’ve never seen on mine.

    v4ld1z ,
    @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

    The UI is better and not as slow as on smart TVs from what I’ve heard. Plus you can play games on the console and watch DVDs and Blurays if that’s your thing. Apart from that, not much.

    starman2112 ,
    @starman2112@sh.itjust.works avatar

    They also track you less. They still track you, but it isn’t even close to what a smart TV does.

    v4ld1z ,
    @v4ld1z@lemmy.zip avatar

    Good point, thanks

    TangledHyphae ,

    This is true, because smart TVs have shitty processors, and consoles do not. Consoles are made for media, smart TVs have shitty embedded software on slow hardware, comparatively.

    Trainguyrom ,

    Sony famously pushed DVDs into the mainstream and won a generation of console wars by building a pretty good DVD player into the PS2 which also happened to cost not much more than most DVD players did at the time

    BombOmOm ,
    @BombOmOm@lemmy.world avatar

    PS2 is STILL my only DVD player. Why fix what ain’t broken?

    Katana314 ,

    Consoles tend to have higher power draw than a lot of simple devices. Depends on how much you care about environmental power savings or power bills.

    MeatsOfRage ,

    Who said that? There are lots of streaming devices you can connect to your display, from game consoles to streaming boxes like Apple TV, Nvidia shield, Android box or if you really want to tinker a PC connected to the TV. The point is, don’t connect the TV itself to the internet as it has the most access to the whole viewing experience to drop ads on you.

    Reverendender ,

    Why this escapes so many people on Lemmy is beyond me

    dangblingus ,

    Or, if you must (cringe), use anonymous credentials, have a router level VPN, and maybe even run pihole. But much better to just hook up a PC to your TV and run all of your apps off of that.

    kittykittycatboys , to cat in He has such big paws
    @kittykittycatboys@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    big ol’ peets

    Severalkittens OP ,

    Perfect for knockin stuff off my table

    DogPeePoo , to cat in He has such big paws

    Smack ‘em up

    GrammatonCleric , to lemmyshitpost in Improvise. Adapt. Overcome.
    @GrammatonCleric@lemmy.world avatar

    How old is this tweet though

    wren , (edited )
    @wren@sopuli.xyz avatar
    AlexWIWA ,

    At least three years. I saw it during the covid quarantine

    idegenszavak ,

    No, it’s from 2022 april: twitter.com/Ciara_BK/status/1515504916600606720

    But some places still had quarantine at that time.

    AlexWIWA ,

    Sorry, you’re right. 2020 did a number on my perception of time. God damn

    sawdustprophet ,
    @sawdustprophet@midwest.social avatar

    How old is this tweet though

    The account has this tweet pinned, posted April 2022.

    twitter.com/Ciara_BK/status/1515504916600606720?t…

    snowfalldreamland ,

    The tweet in the picture is from April 17 2022. so as of today it is. 1 year 8 months 5 days old.

    twitter.com/Ciara_BK/status/1515504916600606720

    Of course i cannot say whether this is thefirst time this joke was made.

    Slovene ,

    Or, for Americans: 8 months 5 days 1 year old.

    TotallynotJessica ,
    @TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world avatar

    I don’t think it’s just Americans that put the year at the end.

    Slovene ,

    Woosh?

    driving_crooner ,
    @driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br avatar

    What about ISO-8601?

    idegenszavak ,

    Less than 2 years old, 2022 april, here is the OG tweet: twitter.com/Ciara_BK/status/1515504916600606720

    Swedneck ,
    @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

    so ancient, then

    simin ,

    dont let this forum become repost

    earmuff , to sysadmin in bad battery?

    Every bloated battery can start igniting any second. So please remove it and store it somewhere outside, ideally on concrete. Li-Ion fires cannot be stopped, not even with water.

    Source: I‘m a firefighter.

    ichbinjasokreativ OP ,

    Thank you for the reply, but I live in an apartment and I don’t think people would appreciate me placing potentially explosive things on the road outside. I’ll take it out of the laptop and bring it to a local recycling center tomorrow.

    earmuff ,

    The battery will most likely not explode, but just ignite. The melting of the chemicals and metals just gets really really hot, so anything else around it will start to burn eventually. So don’t treat it like a bomb, more like a very hot iron. If you can, find a temporary spot for the battery. Maybe in a garage or basement. If also possible, use a metal container. Dirt/sand is also a good option.

    towerful ,

    I feel like Lemmy is hitting a critical mass, where “am Y, [explanation]” followed by an informal AMA is starting to happen, and it’s great to see!

    possiblylinux127 ,

    If the battery is quickly removable I would put it into a sand bucket and cover it with sand.

    netburnr , (edited )
    @netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

    I’m going to go against what you just said, even though you might be a firefighter.

    Take that battery OUTSIDE AWAY FROM ANY TREES OR YOUR HOME and put it in salt water to kill it completely. The water should have so much salt in it that the salt refuses to stir in and you can see the salt at the bottom after heavy stirring meaning the water cant dilute the salt anymore. .

    The salt water bath over the next two days will completely drain the battery to 0 volts at which point it is no longer dangerous.

    The salt water method is the only fully safe way to handle that battery.

    earmuff ,

    What you are describing is just dangerous, for the simple fact that people then think they are safe, as soon as they put the battery into salt water. You even say yourself that it takes days until fully drained. During those days, the battery could still ignite. When that happens, the salt water will not help at all. What then will happen is, that the water will immediately turn into steam. You know what happens if you put water into hot oil - similar effect, just less dangerous. The water will be gone in no time and everything around it starts to burn.

    That‘s why we always recommend what I was suggesting in my initial comment. And please don‘t say things like „it is the only fully safe way“. This is just straight up wrong.

    netburnr ,
    @netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

    You are welcome to disagree, but putting a lipo in salt water is the only safe way to discharge it. Obviously this should be done outside away from any trees or the home.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    You should add doing the salt bath outdoors to the post and recommend leaving it there for a couple of weeks to ensure it is fully drained.

    netburnr ,
    @netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

    Done. Won’t matter the downvote brigade already sided with the self proclaimed firefighter.

    I learned this from R/C cars many years ago when Lipo came put. It’s a tried and true method that many people in the hobby use to make the battery safe for transport to the recycling facilities.

    snooggums ,
    @snooggums@kbin.social avatar

    The downvotes are most likely because you said to go 'against what was said' instead of adding to it with the long term solution. It read as if you disagreed with taking it outside where it would be immediately safer.

    Eheran ,

    What do you mean it is not going to help if it is in water? That is literally the most efficient way to cool it and thus prevent a runaway reaction to begin with.

    earmuff , (edited )

    Oh, it will help, but only for a very short amount of time. Those metals will get pretty hot, the expanding steam will make the water splash out of the bucket and the rest of it will evaporate quickly. The fire will only stop, if the battery reaches a temperature of about 70°C (158°F). For that you need a lot of cooling material.

    Yesterday in the news was a fire of a Tesla car battery, needing 36.000 gallons of water to extinguish it. They had to use two hose (the big ones) for over one hour to have it under control.

    So if you put a small battery in a pool, then you are safe, I absolutely agree. I only criticize the wrong assumption that a bucket of salt water is the „only safe way“ to handle a battery.

    Eheran ,

    Sorry but that is nonsense. There is not even nearly enough energy in a laptop battery to empty a bucket of water. There is not even enough heat to warm the water a significant amount, which is why it can not even get to the point of a runaway reaction to begin with. The internal short just dissipates the energy slowly, without any spectacular event. Regardless of salt content, but salt would indeed help discharge the battery even without a fault.

    And of course there are other ways to handle a battery (regardless of it’s health) safely.

    earmuff ,

    Look, I‘m no scientist. I just see the effects in real life. Obviously the amount of material affects the energy effectively released. One job of our fire department is to spread awareness and in those messages, you are better on the safe side and be extra cautious. If you are a scientist or know exactly what you are doing, feel free to handle it the way you want to. Based on the message of OP I knew they were inexperienced. That‘s why I would never recommend solutions which are not super clear and super safe. Water and battery can work - but it can also clearly fail if done wrong.

    Eheran ,

    At the scale of a laptop battery, just putting it somewhere without flammables around is sufficient. A bucket of water will absolutely stop anything from happening due to the strong cooling effect. This is not a car battery where water can not actually reach the individual cells. However, I also understand your concerns.

    But if I should think of a way for a random person to deal with a dangerous battery in an enclosed space, a bucket of water would be very high on the list. Even if it is already burning.

    maryjayjay ,

    Are you implying that lithium will only burn on contact with air if it’s in a charged battery?

    rab ,
    @rab@lemmy.ca avatar

    What about with a fire blanket?

    earmuff ,

    I actually had to check some resources myself, as I was unsure if it was really useful in that case. Those blankets usually help stopping a fire by limiting the amount of oxygen that gets to it - without oxygen, no fire. Unfortunately, many batteries have oxygen in them, not much, but enough to keep it going. So the fire won’t stop in that case. But what the fire blanket does, is give a layer of insulation, thus reducing sparks flying around and reducing the temperature directly above it.

    Fire blankets are always a very useful tool, as they are easy to use and at least protect the person holding it (in small fires, obviously). If it doesn’t help, it does not make it any worse.

    Case ,

    So a previous employer’s direction to store all of the bloated batteries together in a network closet WAS a bad idea?

    Someone should have told them that. Oh wait, I did.

    Just glad I’m not there anymore.

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