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explore_broaden , to nostupidquestions in What is the absolute max level of ear protection you can get?

I was actually wondering about this recently and I started thinking about how loud of sounds people working on the deck of an aircraft carrier would be exposed to. I found this interesting article about improving the hearing protection for them, because it turns out even for people who actually use both forms like they are supposed to (most of the people in the jobs exposed to the loudest sounds do, it would likely still be at the pain level for them if they only wore one so they have good motivation) it still isn’t enough for a full workday of exposure.

Here’s the link: apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA455113.pdf. The exposure is something like 145-155 dB. They say a final checker will get to the safe limit in only a few takeoffs, and that assumes that they can recover in a below 84 dB environment when they aren’t working, which apparently also doesn’t happen. It seems like it isn’t really a solved problem of how to protect people being exposed to this kind of sound level.

boatswain , to asklemmy in Tips to reduce Enshittification of Internet

You seem to be taking about something other than enshittification, which has a specific meaning and isn’t just places not respecting privacy or whatever. Per Cory Doctorow (who invented the term) via Wikipedia:

Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a “two sided market”, where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

If enshittification is what you’re assist interested in reducing, check out Cory’s book, The Internet Con: How to Seize the Means of Computation.

max641 OP ,

Ok. Let me check the book.

Baku ,

Did you check the book

max641 OP ,

Yeah, just got it.

Kit , to nostupidquestions in I this a firm and polite way to tell an opinionated coworker to stop pushing his agenda I don't care about?

I prefer “Let’s keep our conversations professional.” It lets him know that you’re there to work, not BS.

Realistically, though, this is a problem for your manager to handle.

Blizzard ,

Plot twist: that coworker is pushing the Agile agenda.

BearOfaTime ,

Hahaha, oh fuck, the Agile Acolytes are out!

Agile’s great and all, but sometimes it’s just applied to shit where it just doesn’t help.

Skullgrid ,
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Agile sprints are 2-6weeks.

I have never, in over 10 years of working in agile seen a single company go one day over 2weeks.

wax ,

Do you have a moment to talk about the gospel of scrum?

Tar_alcaran , to nostupidquestions in What is a good eli5 analogy for GenAI not "knowing" what they say?

It’s a really well-trained parrot. It responds to what you say, and then it responds to what it hears itself say.

But despite knowing which sounds go together based on which sounds it heard, it doesn’t actually speak English.

TomMasz , to pics in Canadian photographer Francois Brunell searches and photographs similar people, but who are not related to each other. He has currently done about 200 couple portraits.
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Makes you wonder how many people got jailed for a crime they didn't commit before the widespread use of fingerprints and DNA just because they resembled someone else.

CosmicTurtle0 ,

People still do.

I can’t find the study but people over estimate whether someone looks familiar, especially in stressful situations.

There are people in prison right now because they look like the perpetrator.

Imma give you a guess as to the races of these people.

The wikipedia article on eyewitness testimony goes into more detail.

interrobang ,

The book ‘Picking Cotton’ is a hard read, but its nonfiction about a woman realizing she identified the wrong man for SA. Its excellent.

Ultragigagigantic ,
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Why do you think the homicide clearence rate has plummeted? Can’t just swing by a random black person, beat the shit out of them, and pin a crime on them like you used to.

teft ,
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Happens all the time. Just look up prison doppelgänger and you’ll get a bunch of hits. One guy spent 17 years falsely imprisoned.

blanketswithsmallpox ,

Step 1: Don’t be black.

Step 2: Don’t be born before 1960.

Actually nevermind lol.

Duke_Nukem_1990 ,

If you want to listen to a fun episode of Behind the Bastards regarding this topic:

Behind the Bastards: Part One: The Bastards of Forensic Science

omny.fm/…/part-one-the-bastards-of-forensic-scien…

sorrybookbroke , (edited ) to asklemmy in Should I join "free speech" alternatives?

Good luck man, you’re about to learn how easy it is to get banned on those free speech alternatives. Still funny though.

Be careful however. No matter what, you’re still just a brain in a flesh jar. You are susceptible to false information and lies as your brain can’t really differentiate between false and correct info that well.

You are not immune to propaganda

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  • sorrybookbroke ,

    It isn’t about the greater idea, it’s about the small lies you don’t know you’re accepting. Of course that isn’t to say you can’t engage at all with this content (I certainly seek out people who disagree with me.) as you say, with constant effort and confirming everything you’ll catch most of it. No matter what you’re going to end up believing something without confirming it or even realising it. Good propaganda goes unquestioned. It seems like something obvious, small, and in some base way unquestionable.

    In a torrential downfall there’s no way to catch each raindrop, no umbrella that can block it all. You are going to get wet, even just a little.

    howrar ,

    Be careful however. No matter what, you’re still just a brain in a flesh jar. You are susceptible to false information and lies as your brain can’t really differentiate between false and correct info that well.

    You are not immune to propaganda

    I never understood this argument. How is it any different for leftist propaganda? This just feels like telling someone to stop thinking because you’re on our team now and we want to make sure you don’t leave.

    lemmyreader ,

    I never understood this argument. How is it any different for leftist propaganda? This just feels like telling someone to stop thinking because you’re on our team now and we want to make sure you don’t leave.

    Your argument seems to suggest :

    • Listening to far right voices is not too bad if you keep being alert.
    • The brain of the listener who thinks for themselves will be strong enough to distinguish leftist propaganda and lies from facts and truth.

    I fear, looking at the millions of people who are not well informed about some things (say privacy + GAFAM), that this is wishful thinking. Remember the experiment with people in the cinemas where some soft-drink images were almost invisible merged into the movie and made people thirsty and buy more drinks during the break ? In my opinion the human brain is unfortunately not as powerful as people make it believe it is. And I have no big issues in general with leftist propaganda as I’d like to see the planet saved rather than destroyed.

    sorrybookbroke , (edited )

    How is this different than leftist propaganda?

    It’s not. In no way, shape, and or form. Once more, you are not immune to propaganda.

    Again, I’m not stating you shouldn’t seek out people who disagree with you, I seek these people out often, but you need to understand what your brain will do.

    You should generally be cognizant of bias and the fact that you will, inevitably, accept without confirmation some information or internalize information you’ve confirmed incorrect. This is not only true to one group, and is just as true for those under the umbrella of “leftist” as much as under the term “alt right”.

    I will state it’s less dangerous to be less cautious here than a free speach absolutist community. Here, we value truth. There, they value all speach even objectively false. Here, you’ll see false info removed there, definitionally, or is not.

    Lastly, for fascism, death of truth is a defining reality. To paraphrase Mussolini let not truth stand on a pillar except insomuch as it assists in our goals. In the places where absolutist freedom of speach reigns fascists, famously very good propagandists, thrive. This is a danger above a left winger repeating false statistics around racism in the police force, or the rates of spousal abuse. Or even myself lying about that Mussolini quote at the beginning of this paragraph

    Thank you for the responce however and the respectful tone you took, I hope I clarified>

    howrar ,

    So if I understand correctly, you’re saying that

    1. you’re more likely to be exposed to lies on a right wing forum compared to left wing forums
    2. the types of lies you’re exposed to are more dangerous in a right wing community compared to the left.

    So first of all, how do you determine that #1 is true? I’ve seen my fair share of misinformation on Lemmy and the left-leaning parts of Reddit getting highly upvoted and vice versa. But I’m basing this on what I personally know (and who knows if I’m right?) and in general, there isn’t much objective info going around. It’s mostly people sharing their sentiments on a topic with little to no factual information (e.g. “fuck [entity X]”).

    #2 also assumes that you’re right to begin with and that sharing these false statistics would lead to a better world. Take false statistics on police racism for example. This can be a problem in many ways. Let’s say hypothetically that there is no police racism, but we say there is and we convince everyone that we need to fix it. This can divert resources away from other problems (e.g. working on reducing spousal abuse), and thus making problems worse elsewhere. Moreso if the police force is tasked with handling spousal violence and they’re now tied up in internal investigations, maybe losing funding, and thus reducing their capabilities. It’ll also be fuelling an unnecessary conflict (possibly violent) between people who should otherwise be allies in the struggle that is life. More people get hurt, more people can die. That’s a pretty dangerous outcome.

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  • howrar ,

    I’ll go over this again later when I have more time, but for now, I just want to say that I don’t appreciate spending so much time trying to understand what you’ve written only to be met with accusations of having deliberately done the exact opposite. I may not be particularly smart, but I’m putting in the effort.

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  • howrar ,

    So my efforts didn’t yield the correct understanding. I recognize that it happens and that’s why I put a short summary of my understanding right at the start so that you can easily correct it without having to read through everything else and expend unnecessary energy trying to parse it out. If you don’t want to continue the discussion, that’s fine. I can find my answers elsewhere. There’s no need to be a dick about it.

    Kyrgizion , to asklemmy in How do I wipe a modern SSD to prevent data recovery?

    Physical destruction. It’s the only way to be 100% sure.

    OmanMkII ,

    For secure data destruction, either pay for it to be done properly, or create your own way of doing it. A decent sized drill bit can do all the work for you, at the cost of a new drive of course.

    bionicjoey ,
    SkaveRat ,

    Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be safe

    TexMexBazooka ,

    A fellow Expeditionary Force enjoyer I see

    PerogiBoi ,
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    EisFrei ,

    A fellow enjoyer of democracy

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    joby , (edited ) to asklemmy in What's your best unconventional "blessing" like when people tell an actor "break a leg!"

    Before covid lockdown I made my living as a street performer, doing magic shows for crowds of strangers. In that very niche community, “Fat hats!” is a common farewell or replacement for “good luck”. In this case “hat” refers to the donations in the hat rather than the actual hat.

    Me in Jackson Square, New Orleans

    smileyhead , to linux in Which communication protocol or open standard in software do you wish was more common or used more?
    • IPv6, needed for modern Internet not to collapse, would make many other important things easier. Easier to become an ISP, to selfhost, to build P2P networks, etc.
    • GNU Taler, a payment protocol just look at it go: 101010.pl/, or just imagine building a payment terminal of a Raspberry Pi
    • Matrix, to unify chat, conference and calling apps
    • some self-arranging darknet protocol becoming a norm like I2P, GNUNet or Yggdrasil, so we could have a backup when mass Internet blockage happen
    Secret300 ,

    I really hope matrix gets native VoIP. I saw like 2 years ago it was in beta, haven’t kept up with it though. I’d also really like voice channels like discord so my friends and I can replace discord but it seems like matrix isn’t interested in being a discord replacement

    Duckling5746 ,

    Matrix can be configured to have VoIP. I have it set up on my server. Haven’t tried it in group voice chat setting yet though. Only 1 on 1

    rottingleaf ,

    Matrix I have doubts about. The idea of Tox was nicer, but the implementation quality and the scandal at some point didn’t help.

    Tox felt more playable, like piping files over it or a remote shell over it (I know, bad associations, but still), or even using it for VPN. I think there were clients allowing to do such stuff, and the protocol allows it.

    EDIT: I mean, it’s still alive, just don’t see it claiming the place of FOSS old Skype replacement as it did.

    GNUNet - all you people mentioning it have peers? I tried to set it up a few weeks ago, couldn’t get peers.

    Yggdrasil - feels cool.

    I2P - not intended for that, I think.

    smileyhead ,

    About Tox, I am not a fan of mixing up universal delivering of packets and applications. Piping files or using as VPS feels like something that would be better done with proper full network and not be mixed with chat.

    rottingleaf ,

    I, on the contrary, think it’s cool for things to be universal, layered and reusable for different tasks.

    Cosmiss ,

    What scandal did Matrix have? I only just tried out Matrix like a month ago and am unaware of anything like that.

    rottingleaf ,

    Tox, not Matrix.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    I2P - not intended for that, I think.

    to be clear, I2P is not really intended for anything, it’s used for everything. It supports all kinds of things, and there are people doing all kinds of things on it. Though i could see potential technological limitations being a problem.

    TheBroodian ,

    I’m stupid, can you elaborate a little further about how ipv6 would make becoming an ISP easier?

    smileyhead ,

    There are no IPv4 addresses left. So you eather go IPv6-only, which would make many services not work. Or wait in a long queue to repurpose address spaces marked as depracated which would soon run out too. And then you put clients behind double or triple NAT doing having shitty service.

    JasonDJ ,

    There’s proctored private resale of IPv4.

    A lot of orgs (mine included) are sitting on large chunks of IPs they don’t need (we have a /16 and several /24s) because they adopted early, got an ASN and prefix assigned by ARIN, and their addressing scheme is now so disjointed and scattered that they can’t sell off anything bigger than a /22, and that makes setting up BGP a pain. Juice ain’t worth the squeeze.

    gregorum , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in How does the day-to-day work of not wearing shoes in the house?

    I don’t understand this question. Are there people who wear their filthy, disgusting shoes around their nice, clean house? What animals and monsters do this? And how do you afford to constantly sweep and mop your house five times a day to keep your house clean? Or do you actually not do this and live in a disgusting, filthy, dirt-covered house all the time?

    How revolting!

    I don’t even wear my outside clothes inside. I change when I get home into comfy pajama clothes to relax in.

    morphballganon ,

    Not everyone trudges through mud when they go out. My state has asphalt and concrete most of the places I want to walk.

    gregorum , (edited )

    I live in a major city that is almost entirely concrete, steel, and glass— I’m not trudging through any mud either. That doesn’t mean I don’t encounter filth, grime, and dirt, as would anyone.

    I don’t want that in my nice, clean home. Ew.

    Jakdracula ,
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    Don’t forget spit.

    sneakattack ,

    Or walk into a public bathroom, or really any public space for that matter. Who knows what you are stepping in all day.

    Scrof ,

    Street asphalt and concrete are incredibly dirty. Car exhaust, dust, whatever the wind brings, bird droppings, insects, trash, there is like a thousand contaminants.

    gregorum ,

    Civilizations are filled with these disgusting things called humans. Hairy, greasy, smelly things, constantly touching and smearing themselves all over everything with their excretions and fluids and dandruffs… eeeuugghhh….

    So gross.

    originalfrozenbanana ,

    Clean asphalt, of course. Pristine, even

    Montagge ,

    My house is held together by mouse shit and the chucks of flesh I’ve lost trying to keep it up right lol

    gregorum ,

    Ya know what, I work at Home Depot. Maybe we could help you with that.

    And I know Jimmy Carter is in hospice now, but I bet he knows a few people who can help!

    AA5B ,

    Outside shoes …. In a carpeted house!

    gregorum ,

    No, and also no

    Kusimulkku ,

    Throw in a fully carpeted bathroom too.

    Jesus Christ, some places…

    dmention7 ,

    Or do you actually not do this and live in a disgusting, filthy, dirt-covered house all the time?

    Sadly, in my limited experience with people who wear their shoes inside by default, it has been this one.

    Nemo ,

    How dirty is your outside, that this is a concern? Are other places strewn with trash and excrement? The sidewalk outside my house and the grass in my yard isn’t any dirtier than the century-old cottage between them.

    gregorum ,

    It’s dirtier than the inside of my house, and I don’t want to track that inside.

    Is that truly so difficult for you to grasp?

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  • gregorum , (edited )

    I didn’t call anyone anything. And if you want to track dirt and filth in your house, go right ahead. Work on your reading comprehension at the same time.

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  • gregorum , (edited )

    You still haven’t shown me where I called anyone anything, just displayed how you see what you want to.

    At least I won’t be hearing from you again.

    Syd ,

    How often do you go outside?

    gregorum ,

    How often do you go outside?

    Syd ,

    I’m in and out at least ten times a day. Hauling firewood, tending a greenhouse, shoveling snow, walking to work depending on weather, going outside to enjoy nature, etc. Changing my clothes each time would be extremely impractical.

    NocturnalMorning , to linux_gaming in Linux is officially at 99% for me.

    Yeah, a lot of expectations people have around Linux are about a decade old. I think Linux has really improved a lot in the area of gaming over the last few years even.

    And as long as Linux keeps being worth supporting I think we’ll see more and more games targeted toward linux.

    9point6 ,

    And as long as Linux keeps being worth supporting I think we’ll see more and more games targeted toward linux.

    Valve has cemented this now, their efforts are what has made gaming on Linux viable for anyone.

    bigmclargehuge OP ,
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    I agree. The steam deck has been a godsend for Linux gaming.

    imecth ,

    Gaming on linux is a decades old ongoing effort, there's plenty of praise to go around, vulkan and winehq, dxvk...

    0x0 ,

    Don’t forget Tuxracer

    dustyData ,

    Only game I know for sure I could install on a toaster and would run at 300fps.

    veng ,

    Unless it was one of those netbook desktop things, holy hell those were bad. I managed to get AntiX running pretty well on one, and tuxracer lagged a LOT. Was pretty useful as a cheap thin client though.

    AlternateRoute , to asklemmy in Iphone users of Lemmy, people say not to trust you on tech insights. What say you?

    Some people purchase a phone based on looks, some for customization, others for specific apps, some it comes just down to what they can afford

    I can come up with strong reasons to use Window or MacOS as your primary desktop os. IOS or Android as your phone OS. Windows / Linux / BSD for a server or appliance OS.

    If someone thinks one size fits all THEY are the ones that should not be trusted in terms of tech insights.

    0_0j OP , (edited )
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    Agreed.

    Edit: Username confirms LOL

    willya ,
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    Spot on and a great view point.

    muntedcrocodile ,
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    I can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server. I mean unless its its a virtual desktop for a thin client but still usually would run that in a Linux vm

    d3Xt3r ,

    can’t think of on3 scenario that windows is the best option for a server.

    There are plenty of enterprise scenarios: eg an AD server for Windows clients, a DFS server, or servers to run certain Windows-only applications such as SCCM etc.

    dmnknf ,

    So windows is the right option only when it’s the only one

    AlternateRoute ,

    BSD has a very narrow set of benefits over Linux based systems I could say the same for BSD which mostly amounts to network appliances / firewalls these days. I would say NAS but Even trueNAS is moving toward linux.

    Vej , to asklemmy in What are good ways to increase air flow in a home with few windows and oriented unfavorably to the local wind direction (cheaply)?

    Suck the air out. Pushing air in with fans creates a higher pressure zone in the house. You won’t move as much air. On the upper floors where it’s warmer suck the air out of what windows you have, but push the air in at the lower windows. Personally my house doesn’t have any windows, this is Lemmy we use Linux here.

    cmgvd3lw ,

    Peak lemmy here.

    Vej ,

    I have been trying to slip in Linux references when I can. I swear 25% of our user base is Linux SysAdmins.

    Gabu OP ,

    I swear 25% of our user base is Linux SysAdmins.

    That’s impossible, as it would mean 25% of our user base is also furry. Wait a second…

    card797 ,

    My house has so many windows. I’m such a nub.

    cordlesslamp ,

    But doesn’t it better to keep your house at positive pressure to keep the dust out?

    Vej , (edited )

    In theory, but by lowering the effectiveness of the fan. You could put outward facing fans in each window and a furnace dust filter on the window sucking the air inward.

    Example blowing air into a balloon. The air goes into the balloon, because the balloon can expand. If you had a balloon as a house, and the fan was your mouth, your house shouldn’t expand. The air has nowhere to go, so it doesn’t blow in very effectively.

    I personally kept most of my house cool by running a single window AC that has a filter and a single fan. The AC blows in at the lower levels of the shaded side of the house. The fan sucks out the hot air from the second floor One ~8,000btu AC will keep the house comfortable until it hits ~97f.

    Moving air out of a house is more about sucking the air out than pushing the air in. As long as their is a flow to it.

    umbrella , (edited )
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    this is only effective if the inlet is well filtered, otherwise you will just be blowing outside dust in anyway

    umbrella ,
    @umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

    where it’s warmer suck the air out of what windows you have, but push the air in at the lower windows

    computer case airflow!

    Vej ,

    I suppose that is an accurate comparison.

    zingo ,

    Fuck! Exactly the idea that hatched in my head.

    So lower front fans are more efficient to suck in cold air than higher ones, while the exhaust fan in the back is higher and more efficient for moving hot air away from the case as hot air rises (ryzens).

    davidgro , to nostupidquestions in Would you drink breast milk if it was commercially available?

    One thing I’ve heard mentioned is that the vegan restriction on animal milk is actually about consent, which humans can give (especially when paid), so human milk can be vegan. That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products. Seems like an untapped niche to me.

    spittingimage ,
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    The internet has taught me that human breast milk doesn’t make good cheese. Something about the protein content. Either too high or not high enough.

    ThatWeirdGuy1001 OP ,
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    Iirc it’s not enough. Human milk is pretty lean on the spectrum of fat content.

    Septimaeus ,

    What if I CRISPR my tits for a better nutrient profile. Can I make money selling vegan dairy then?

    Wizard_Pope ,
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    The best use for CRISPR we have thought of as of now.

    EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted , (edited )
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    I believe it depends on the sub-type of Veganism. Some forms of it are more strict and don’t allow for as much if any leeway.

    Sludgehammer ,
    @Sludgehammer@lemmy.world avatar

    That opens up the possibility of vegan cheese, butter, etc. but as true dairy products.

    There actually are vegan dairy-ish products out there. Several startups have inserted the gene for casein (the main protein in milk) into yeast. So you just harvest the casein, add a little bit of some sort of fat and sugar and you have something that’s 99% the same as milk, and can be used in the same sorts of processes.

    The only product that I’ve actually tried was some Brave Robot ice cream, which was well… ice cream.

    LemmyFeed ,

    Yeah but did the yeast consent to that?

    Zirconium ,

    Yes they did. The ate the food and shat out lactose

    MadBob ,

    The other thing about it is that mammals, with rare exceptions, have to have had a baby before they produce milk, and of course since dairy farmers want to make a profit, they just force pregnancy on their animals and take their babies away to bring about a “surplus” of milk for them to sell. So if this ends up happening with people, I want no part of it.

    9thDragon , to showerthoughts in Maybe we are late in the universe, perhaps universe used to be a lively and vibrant place homing millions of civilizations. Now, we stand as the last remnants, hence, possibly the most advanced.

    The universe is too young for that to be likely.

    BallShapedMan ,
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    Yup, all the evidence scientists point to agree that if anything we are early to the party.

    PeriodicallyPedantic ,

    It’s wild to think that we may be what aliens call “the elder races” or “precursors” or something like that, depending on if we survive that long.

    BallShapedMan ,
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    For reals! Then the young races introduce themselves and we demand they dab as an introduction lol

    AngryCommieKender ,
    ripcord ,
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    Our elephants may become the precursors, we are likely to just become a thrall race.

    njm1314 ,

    Man I think it’s so damn optimistic that you think we’ll be around long enough to be an elder race, or even leave enough of a mark to be called a precursor.

    PeriodicallyPedantic ,

    I agree, that’s why I added the caveat. Doesn’t seem very likely… But it’s so interesting to think about

    DessertStorms ,
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    The observable universe is too young for that to be likely

    The difference is vast probably beyond anything we can imagine.

    HopeOfTheGunblade ,
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    Given that we can see the CMB it seems unlikely that the universe is older elsewhere.

    DessertStorms , (edited )
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    Considering even the modest estimates of the size of the entire universe compared to the tiny sphere we can observe, I think it'd be pretty arrogant to think our spec is getting enough information to say anything about the universe as a whole is unlikely.

    roguetrick ,

    This isn’t really a counterargument to what he said. The limits of our observable universe is the CMB. It’s the beginning of the universe. The farther we see, the more redshifted it is, the farther in the past it is. Hot, dense, and redshifted is the CMB.

    cynar ,

    Interestingly it’s possible the universe could be older elsewhere. One of the theories regarding the big bang is that space-time underwent a phase change. The higher level phase had sufficiently different physics to let the energy level equalise despite the speed of light limits.

    There is no reason the entire thing collapsed back into its current state at once. 1 theory has it happening as energy density dropped below a critical limit. Others have “bubbles” of “normal” space time forming, and expanding through the unshifted medium. There is no reason bubbles couldn’t be massively apart, temporally. The catch is, the bubbles will likely never have any communication, rendering the point abstract at best.

    There’s also no reason the bubbles collapsed the same way. Other bubbles could have a vastly different flow rate of time, or a different number of spacial dimensions.

    This is all head-of-a-pin physics however. As it stands, we couldn’t detect even a type 3 civilization out near the edge of our observable universe. That is also before light cone issues.

    HopeOfTheGunblade ,
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    I'd be interested in reading more about this, if you have any pointers. It seems to me to be an interesting semantic question as to whether other bubbles of spacetime beyond our own, running at a different temporal rate (from the outside? By what universal clock?) count as part of our universe or not. From the description you gave, it seems like maybe even FTL wouldn't be enough to reach them.

    cynar ,

    Not got anything to particularly hand. It’s mostly offhand articles and pub discussions (drunken freeform thinking is remarkably common and useful in physicists, let alone with undergrads). By its nature, it is into the realm of philosophy, rather than science. It is untestable, since there couldn’t be any communication with other bubbles.

    As for the time flow, it’s fairly arbitrary. We perceive ourselves moving through time via indirect means. Those are potentially an illusion, even in our bubble. The rate of entropy, or the speed of light could be vastly different. That would change the perceived “speed of time” (whatever that means!) compared to some arbitrary communal rest frame.

    The big issue is that we don’t currently understand our own space-time. Speculating on over variances is very much “how many angels can dance on the head of a pin”.

    If you want something a little more scientific, cosmic bubble theory is the current version of the theory.

    Oh, and the same base assumptions basically preclude FTL. In a relativistic universe, FTL is time travel, with all the resultant problems (tachyonic anti-telephone being just the most obvious)

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  • Sylver ,

    No but we can estimate the total age before cosmic inflation renders the universe cold and so far spread out so as to be considered “dead”

    That timeline is around 10^27 years, of which we only right now have been around for about 10^9. So we are VERY young compared to the max age. On the cosmological timescale, we are still “being born”

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  • spittingimage ,
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    Another factor is estimating the total amount of hydrogen available to form new stars. The last estimate I heard was nine times as much as is currently bound up in stars.

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