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all-knight-party , to asklemmy in What's the most evil hellish thing you've experienced firsthand in life?
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Being sexually assaulted. I feel like in terms of things that are top tier awful experiences I would probably rank any unwanted sexual experience worse than pain or death.

ULS OP , (edited )

I’ve been manipulated by people. I was of age though and kind of too depressed to care because I live in a shitty small town. My sexual manipulation wasn’t as bad as some other stuff people go through though. I’ve been manipulated hard in a non sexual way. So many kids go through shit some adult literally can’t even fathom. It’s sick. Even as an adult people don’t get it.

I remember an older guy that weighed probably 250 laying on top of me doing stuff and I couldn’t move. He shoved poppers in my face. I was so depressed and dead feeling back then I didn’t care. I felt like I was in a movie. looking back that person obvious would get me liquored up and have his way. It hurts to know someone would actually act like that in real life. On the other side of things… No regular people in my life gave me a minute. No one cared for me. It’s fucked to think that same guy did more for me than regular friends or family. Everyone else would have just sat back and watched me and egg me on to kms. Because everyone else I knew were just naive, entitled, and privileged.

stoy ,

That is terrible to read, I hope you are doing better now though

jordanlund , to lemmyshitpost in Hey mods, ya think you might get around to removing that CSAM that's been up for hours?
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So… it’s complicated…

I’m not a mod here, but the lemmy.world admins have set me up with some tools and bots to take care of trouble makers.

So the reports never made it to me because I’m not a mod.

A bot got the reports showing the offensive subject and a button for “Perma Ban” and it looked (to me) like the Perma Ban had already been enabled.

It now looks like it wasn’t. :(

So this post was brought to the attention of an Admin chat that I’m part of, I ran down the post manually and hit it with the ban-hammer bot as well as going back through the bot posts and making sure the Perma Ban option was triggered.

HOPEFULLY it’s gone now. The user should be permanently banned as well.

MaoZedongers ,

Why does a bot outrank you lol

Thanks for getting rid of it so I never had to see it.

jordanlund ,
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Because while I am a lemmy.world mod, I’m not a mod for lemmyshitpost.

I see all the reports for Politics and World News and a few other TINY communities (hello Comic Books!) but I wouldn’t ordinarily see the reports for lemmyshitpost.

That’s where the bot comes in. Multiple reports happening really quickly get reported to Discord and then all of us can go “Whoah, what’s going on?”

If we click the link and it’s legit bad, there’s a Perma Ban button that any of us can use even if we aren’t a mod on that community.

In my case, I clicked the link in Discord and the post didn’t load and I was like “Cool! Already done! One less thing to worry about!”

But that wasn’t because it was resolved, it was because I had blocked lemmyshitpost from my personal feed. :(

I realized what had happened when I saw the discussion this morning, ran down the post and used all the bots to unleash hell. ;)

IAmTheZeke ,

Which comic book instance?

jordanlund ,
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CommunityLinkFixer Bot ,

Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !comicbooks

SorteKanin , to fediverse in I love Mastodon and ActivityPub. But I think Nostr is going to win. Here's why.
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If you think the Fediverse is about “winning”, you’ve already failed to understand it.

The Fediverse is about choice. Some people will use X. Other people will use Y. Under the hood, both X and Y use the same protocols and they can communicate so everyone stays connected even when making different choices (if they choose to stay connected of course).

Nobody “wins”; everybody wins.

makeasnek OP ,
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Agreed. I’m glad to see both protocols growing. By “win” I mean: become the most popular twitter replacement.

SorteKanin ,
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What does it matter if X is more popular than Y if I prefer Y and I can see all the same stuff as the people using X see?

The Fediverse is not a popularity contest either.

Also for the record, ever since I started taking donations from my users for my instance, they have been extremely generous and have more than covered costs. So I’m not sure I agree with your cost argument so far.

flathead ,

ahem - nobody I know will use X.

ElderReflections , to piracy in How to pirate a font
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Fonttools includes a tool to convert TTF to XML and back again. Makes it easy to inspect and remove unwanted metadata

Deckweiss OP ,

Awesome, thank you! I’ll try that

Landmammals ,

What’s fun about that, is that fonts are copyrightable, but typefaces are not.

MadBob ,

Is that in a particular land or what? Could you give a source?

Landmammals ,
Agent641 ,

Whats the difference?

hai ,
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Basically style vs the instructions that make up the font. It’s lead to a lot of rip offs (see: Helvetica vs. Arial).

VinesNFluff , to asklemmy in What quotes from children's media went hard as hell for no reason?
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“If the world chooses to become my enemy… Then I will fight. Like I always have.”,

Shadow, Sonic 06

Ozai: (bitterly) It was to teach you respect.

Zuko: It was cruel! And it was wrong.

Ozai: Then you have learned nothing.

Zuko: No, I’ve learned everything! And I had to learn it on my own.

Avatar: the Last Airbender

“They say suffering brings wisdom. If that is the case, then I intend to make you very wise.”

Optimus Prime, Transformers Comics

fogstormberry ,

damn I feel like I’m missing a lot not reading transformers

hperrin , to mildlyinfuriating in Tried to cancel my gym membership and of course I'm not allowed to do that online

This is why I used Privacy for my gym membership. They tried to charge me during Covid when they were closed and I just turned off the card they were using.

Also, check out port87.com

It automatically sorts things based on subaddresses, so you can give the gym [email protected], and you’ll get a label named beefcakegym where all their emails go. Then if they pester you, you can just block that address.

Full disclosure: I built and run Port87.

Kethal ,

This is built into some email services, where you with [email protected], you can set the label to whatever you want and it all goes to [email protected]. unfortunately many sites will incorrectly claim that + is invalid in am address.

hperrin ,

Yeah, Microsoft is a notable one that does that. That’s why I made it so Port87 supports both the plus and the dash. I haven’t found any place that doesn’t accept a dash in an email address.

Lots of places support the subaddressing, but I don’t know of any others that are built around it like Port87. Like, where all email to a subaddress goes to a matching label automatically.

Kethal ,

Automatic sorting is a nice addition.

max ,

And if they don’t block it outright, this trick is rather well known and easy to filter out. It takes a minute to write a function that removes anything from the + to the @.

Kethal , (edited )

Gmail (and maybe others) ignores periods in the address. Only use labels in combination with extra or removed periods, and filter any address without a label and the wrong periods. If they remove the label, it goes to the bin.

Lemming6969 ,

In practice very few places accept the plus sign as a valid email

deweydecibel ,

What do disposable email addresses and spam filters have to do with canceling a gym membership? I don’t see anything on that page referring to banking or credit card transactions.

OP mentioned getting emails, but the topic at hand was changing their card, not hiding from the emails. Any email service is capable of blocking a domain, why would a special email service be of any use in this case? They weren’t spam emails, they were missed payment reminders.

Blocking emails doesn’t stop the payments, either.

So you off handedly throw out “turn off your card” as if that’s the simple and obvious solution, with no other detrimental effects, and then tried to shoehorn a plug for your email service into this?

You just saw the words “daily emails”, the tiniest sliver of a possible opening to plug your thing, and you took it, regardless of it was on topic or not.

In essence, you dropped spam for your spam filtering service.

hperrin ,

I was actually talking about my own experience canceling a gym membership. As mentioned, I used a Privacy card, which is locked to one vendor. You can turn off that specific card, and nothing else is affected. That’s how I canceled my own gym membership, when I couldn’t do it in person, because the gym was closed during Covid.

I mentioned my email service because it has a very similar feature to Privacy, I’ve also used it when going as a guest to a different gym, and OP mentioned getting constant emails from the gym. This relates to both their and my experience.

Blocking emails doesn’t stop the payments either.

That’s why I was talking about Privacy. Turning off a Privacy card does stop the payments.

as if that’s the simple and obvious solution, with no other detrimental effects

If you’re unfamiliar with Privacy, it’s basically like a disposable email service, but for credit cards. You only use a Privacy card with one vendor, so there aren’t any downsides to turning it off.

If you think that my comment is unrelated to OP’s situation, then I really don’t know what to tell you. Maybe try canceling a gym membership and see for yourself.

bionicjoey , to nostupidquestions in Are there any good alternatives to concrete/asphalt

Metal roads. But since metal is expensive you probably want just two strips of it under the wheels. And since it will wear away at the rubber you probably would want the cars to have metal wheels as well. And at that point you could make the wheels form around the rails in order to make it easier to move fast without sliding. And then you could make the cars a lot bigger and link them together and have one big car push a whole bunch of them.

Everythingispenguins ,

But how will the BMW drivers pass?

isolatedscotch ,

they would get on this hyper-epic-420-linked-car and then get out at predefined location of public interest equally spaced out between a route

volvoxvsmarla ,

This reads in Adam Something’s voice

bionicjoey ,

I was shooting for more of an Alan Fisher vibe but sure, that too.

riquisimo ,

What great ideas! Have you been trained in city development?

HatchetHaro , to asklemmy in Knowing what you know about Elon Musk, why are you still on X?
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gay furry porn

agitatedpotato ,

Porn is the best and possibly only reason to stay on twitter. In fact I wish everyone who deleted their account goes and makes a porn following account until the app stores hands are forced to delisting it and even less advertisers pay for spots. Plus there’s some good ass porn there. Or at least there was last I checked, admittedly it’s been a while.

franzfurdinand ,
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I wish I had something more significant to contribute, but… yeah. Mood.

ImplyingImplications ,

The only reason I still use reddit is because of its huge NSFW communities.

bibliotectress ,

That’s one of the biggest reasons why I don’t. I was angry I had to start logging in to visit those.

Omega_Haxors ,

You can get around that by using old.reddit as you can click past the NSFW filter without signing in.

brlemworld ,

I had a throwaway account. I dont use Reddit for porn because it doesnt have as much content as twitter. Also the content it does have is pretty vanilla.

dustyData , to nostupidquestions in Why does everyone hate Cloudflare?

Let me tell my personal grievance with Cloudfare. One of the services that Cloudfare dispenses to websites, whether they like it or not, is bandwidth throttling, in the name of safety, of course. If an IP has been flagged by their system to have created spam, sent spam, being part of a DDOS attack and other various offenses, afterwards the Cloudfare service will throttle that IP requests to the sites that use Cloudfare. That’s on paper what it should do, and it sounds reasonable on a surface level. However, this includes wide swaths of residential dynamic IPs, which means that a lot of people get slow internet for the actions committed by a person with whom they have no relation with whatsoever.

Furthermore, Cloudfare has decided to mass impose this status to the entire regional IP block for my country. So, my entire country is deemed as a threat, and doomed to slow AF speeds almost everywhere on the internet. Unless, of course, you own a datacenter and specifically pay Cloudfare to reclassify your static IP addresses to be trusted. This means that in order to use 100% of the bandwidth I pay for to my ISP, use of a VPN is mandatory. Else Cloudfare determines that I don’t deserve anything but dial-up speeds.

Fuck Cloudfare.

redcalcium ,

Ugh, that’s awful. So, either not using VPN and got throttled, or use vpn and got captcha?

Ilovethebomb ,

That’s kinda funny that an entire country has been deemed more trouble than it’s worth.

learningduck ,

I used to work with a fraud detection system for a payment gateway. The system will automatically flag payments from any Russian and some countries as fraud automatically. This was 4-5 years ago

Ilovethebomb ,

That’s brilliant. And probably justified.

KiranWells ,
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This is probably not the solution you are looking for, given your opinion of the company, but I wonder if using their 1.1.1.1 app (which acts as a mini VPN to a Cloudflare endpoint and changes your public IP) would fix that for you. The upside is it’s free, the downside is that it is a Cloudflare-run VPN.

BraveSirZaphod , to asklemmy in Realistically, how can Palestine gain it's freedom?
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Within Israel, the vast majority of people don't particularly care about any kind of manifest destiny style reclamation of the West Bank or Gaza, and if that were the only issue, I genuinely don't think there would be a significant problem.

What essentially everyone does care about, however, is repeatedly having rockets lobbed at them. When people feel under threat, reason starts to fall away, people begin dehumanizing the "other", and you get the massive mess we have today. The fact of the matter is that Israel will never accept any situation where its people are under threat. No matter what you think about what acts are or aren't justified or your opinion on how various parts of the history played out, none of that changes this basic reality.

Palestine is not going to be able to militarily eradicate Israel. There is precisely zero chance that Israelis allow themselves to be subjected to a second diaspora and they'll fight to the death to prevent this, and that's to say nothing of external players like the United States. Again, whether you think this is a good thing or a bad thing, it is a true thing.

On the flip side, Israel is perfectly capable of essentially eradicating the Palestinians, though this would subject it to massive international condemnation that would also have huge economic impacts. You're already beginning to see whispers of this as the world increasingly sees Israel's response in Gaza as being excessively harsh. The most they could do is a slow and steady degradation of Palestinian society while encouraging them to "voluntarily" leave, which is arguably what the strategy has essentially been under Likud with settlements and the like.

So, what's required for a peaceful co-existence? Firstly, you need a mutual acknowledgement from both leaders (and also, a legitimate Palestinian leadership in the first place) that the other side exists and has a right to do so, ie, Palestinians giving up on the idea of eradicating Israel and Israelis giving up on the idea of fully annexing and ethnically cleaning Palestinian lands. This is not a trivial thing. The Israeli far-right, though they're not dominant, are growing and believe they have a divine right to the West Bank, with the Arabs being seen as little more than animals in the way. The extreme Palestinian side is that all Israelis are essentially foreign invaders and should be forcibly removed or killed. Both of these positions must be completely taken off the table.

Secondly, Israel will not engage unless it is confident that its security will not be threatened, which will in practice mean that Palestinian authorities must be de-militarized beyond what's necessary for basic local law enforcement. Again, this might seem unfair, and hell, it probably is. But the fact of the matter remains that Israel is the side holding the guns here, so you either play by their rules and try to find some positive outcome, or you flip the table and enjoy the complete loss, but with some moral satisfaction. Similarly, there would probably need to be some kind of border controls for imports that Israeli authorities can inspect for covert weapons shipments, since it's a known thing that Iran does regularly try to bring weapons into Gaza. Ideally, this would be some kind of bi-national force with Palestinian cooperation.

If you reach these points, then you still have other very big questions to deal with, like precise borders, land swaps, the question of Jerusalem, how to connect Gaza and the West Bank, any right of return for displaced Palestinians both recently and during the Nakba, and plenty of other things I'm sure I'm forgetting about. But ultimately, if you have a Palestinian and Israeli leadership that are actually interested in peace and accept the existence of the other, and both agree to cooperate on matters of security and prioritizing that peace above and past grievances, no matter how legitimate, that gives you a real foundation you can build from.

I wouldn't get my hopes up though.

Stovetop ,

The extreme Palestinian side is that all Israelis are essentially foreign invaders and should be forcibly removed or killed.

That’s essentially the reality of the situation, though. The land was populated by Palestinians before Europe and the rest of the Middle East NIMBY’d their remaining Jewish populations to Israel.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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Maybe if it was the 1940s this would be a bit more accurate, but at this point, we're a couple generations removed from the original mass displacements. Most Israelis today were born there.

Like I said, the way towards progress lies with both sides finding a way to get over historical grievances of who started what and who's to blame for this and that and instead accepting the fact that they're both here now and need to find a way to exist with each other.

freagle ,

You literally just described a settler state, complete with using reproduction as an occupying tactic.

Israel, the state, is illegitimate and needs to be dissolved. The Israeli people can integrate and co-createba society with the Palestinians or they can GTFO. Any that stay to explicitly disrupt this and form reactionary movements can get rekt.

However, as you say, this reality won’t stop the genocide. So a two-state solution is the most likely interim step.

danhakimi ,

That’s essentially the reality of the situation, though. The land was populated by Palestinians before Europe and the rest of the Middle East NIMBY’d their remaining Jewish populations to Israel.

This is all kinds of wrong.

Zionism was a Jewish movement. Antisemitism was not NIMBYism, that's a pretty horrible thing to say, it was persecution, pogroms, attacks, the holocaust, a constant stream of hate and oppression. Zionism was certainly not a movement of the Europeans and Middle Easterners who persecuted us. It was our movement. Zionism was not just an escape, but also a long held dream of the Jewish people that coalesced as it became plausible in late Ottoman policy. It was finally possible for Jews to buy land in, and immigrate to, Israel, so many of us did.

We are not foreign to Israel. It is our indigenous homeland. As the rest of the world rejected us, we no longer felt safe as strangers in strange lands. We considered the possibility of having our own nation on borrowed land from the Russians, or from the Germans, or in Alaska. We didn't care for those ideas because of how stupid they were. We wanted a homeland in our homeland. If you don't understand Jewish indigeneity in Judea, maybe you're not ready to talk about complex topics.

As for the Palestinian ties to the land—Palestinian nationalism barely existed before Jewish people started returning to Israel. Arabs in the various Ottoman Sanjaks or whatever division there was at the time were mostly traveling merchants or pilgrims; there was, of course, a small permanent population, which included Jews (always, despite various efforts to remove them or ban them), Christians, and Muslims, but that population expanded dramatically starting in the mid-late 1800s on all fronts. The Arabs then either continued to call themselves Syrians, Egyptians, Jordanians ("Jordan" and "Palestine" were part of the same colony, I hope you know), or they subscribed to some conception of pan-Arabism. The word "Palestinian," to the extent was used at all before the ~1960s, was used largely to refer to whoever happened to be in Palestine (like "New Yorker," not referring to a race of some kind), or specifically, in Europe, to refer to Jews. Palestinian nationalism largely gained traction in the 1960s as a political movement, and even then, many leaders were committed to pan-Arabism but treated Palestinian identity as a useful political fiction; Zuhair Moshen in particular, as a leader of the PLO, pushed these ideas, and in much of the politics between the West Bank and Jordan through that period. Of course, since the 1940s, Palestinian identity has taken on new meanings, but many of these meanings are young, and the vast majority of these peoples' ties to the land start between the 1800s and 1948—a beat before similarly-shaped spikes in the Jewish return.

Palestinian nationalism is now used in other Arab countries to keep Palestinian Arabs oppressed; Jordan revoked their Jordanian citizenship, Lebanon refuses to grant them basic rights, UNRWA refuses to resettle them across multiple generations.

Admetus ,

If Jews are indigenous to Judea does that mean that Jews never intermarried with Jews of other countries? And if they did, how can they then be called indigenous any more?

danhakimi ,

... what?

"Jews of other countries" are also indigenous to Israel / Judea / Canaan / Palestine / whatever you want to call it. I'm a Persian-American Jew. Before Iran, my community came from Israel. Is it possible that there are some Russian Jews in my family tree? Or Egyptian Jews? Or Bucharian Jews? Or Iraqi Jews? Yes. Are they all still indigenous to Israel? Yes.

Conversion to Judaism is extremely rare, but it does happen. Is it possible that some portion of my family tree converted to Judaism and is not indigenous to Israel? Sure. Does one drop of Iranian blood in m DNA make me somehow not indigenous to the place the rest of my ancestors are from? Hell the fuck no. Especially given that my ancestors in Iran were never welcome for long. It's also worth noting that, since the Arab Conquest reached Iran, conversion from Islam has been, for most of that time, illegal (it's currently punishable by death!), so the idea of converts to Judaism is extremely rare.

This is a strange, disturbing line of reasoning. You wouldn't ask Native Americans with ancestors from two different tribes how they can be called indigenous, would you?

What's going on here?

Admetus ,

Actually the opposite, it’s a line of reasoning that supposes that no-one is really indigenous to anywhere in particular, thereby avoiding the good ol’ extreme claims to sovereignity.

The history of Israel is littered with invasion anyway, so again, the idea of indigenous peoples at this point requires a reworking of the definition of ‘indigenous’ to people who have lived there for some time.

I’m expecting a bit of the ol’ ‘It was the Jew’s to begin with’ so I’ll just say in advance there’s no point in my continuing if that starts cropping up in replies.

danhakimi ,

Actually the opposite, it’s a line of reasoning that supposes that no-one is really indigenous to anywhere in particular, thereby avoiding the good ol’ extreme claims to sovereignity.

... what? So you don't know what indigeneity is, so you just said, "fuck it, we're going to do away with the concept altogether so nobody has a right to live anywhere at all!"

I'm always baffled as to where you people think the Jews should be living.

NoneOfUrBusiness ,

What essentially everyone does care about, however, is repeatedly having rockets lobbed at them. When people feel under threat, reason starts to fall away, people begin dehumanizing the "other", and you get the massive mess we have today. The fact of the matter is that Israel will never accept any situation where its people are under threat.

I get what you mean, but the current situation has continued since even before the rocket attacks. Gaza was blockaded before rocket attacks even became a thing (setting aside the second Intifada because that's its own thing). What I mean is: Israeli's feeling under threat is probably a factor, but it's not the main issue.

and also, a legitimate Palestinian leadership in the first place

True enough, but let's remember that it's Israel that engineered a situation where they can claim Palestine has no legitimate leadership. You're not wrong about the fact, but I just wanted to make the cause clear.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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For sure, I'm not at all trying to portray Israel as blameless here, because they are not.

I think the blockade does have some basic level of merit, at least in principle (it can't really be doubted that Hamas does import weapons and materials with Iranian backing), but it's critical that those kinds of controls only go as far as they're needed and no further. However, the Israeli government has never really cared about not going to far, so Palestinians have no real reason to trust that they're being treated in good faith, violence comes to feel like the only real option, and onwards the mess rolls along.

Along with Palestinians needing to accept that Israel is going to exist in some capacity and that it will not accept any deal that doesn't ensure its security, Israelis need to accept that if they don't take every step towards keeping peaceful paths available and fruitful, then people will turn to violent ones. Israel can of course easily win a conflict of violence, but it doesn't have to be this way

bartolomeo OP ,
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Thanks for the detailed and thought out response. I can’t help but notice that it’s built on a foundation of autocracy and Israeli exceptionalism i.e. Israel holds all the guns so they call the shots and they have the singular privilege of having non-hostile neighbors while every other country in the world except the U.S. should respect negotiations and international law, and many have hostile neighbors but that’s ok. I can’t blame you, though, because the narrative is thus constructed: Israel alone has the right to security, Israel alone has the right to self-determination, Israel alone has the right to self-defense, etc. Why doesn’t Palestine? The narrative says “because they lob mortar shells over the fence” which is a pure double standard (Israeli exceptionalism). History must be erased to maintain the narrative, like the invasion of Akka among many others. When a country has such a consistent history, it’s rational to believe that they will continue annexing Palestinian lands, so it’s very important that the narrative removes the Palestinian right to self-defense as well as erasing Israel’s colonial history. The truth is different, though.

BraveSirZaphod ,
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I'm speaking solely to the facts on the ground.

Regardless of anyone's thoughts on the matter, Israel does hold all the guns here. Rights and privileges mean as much as the paper they're printed on. In a perfect world, Israel and Palestine would exist side by side as peaceful partners, each with fully fledged institutions and militaries and all that jazz. But unless Israel is confident that a Palestinian military won't have its destruction as its primary goal, it will not allow that to happen, no matter how much pontificating about rights and narratives and double standards anyone does. I'm not trying to talk about who's "right", whatever that even means. I'm talking about the actual situation and what will actually happen, regardless of anyone's opinions on the matter.

When a country has such a consistent history, it’s rational to believe that they will continue annexing Palestinian lands

And an Israeli would say that Palestinians have a consistent history of attempting to murder Israeli civilians and so it is rational to never allow them to build up any military power, and thus the circus goes round. My point is that no amount of moral superiority means very much if you don't have actual power to go along with it, and Palestinians simply do not. If the goal is actually to develop a real peace rather than avenge any sins of the past, both sides will have to give up on prior grievances and decide that they care more about the lives of their children than their own pride. It's hard to imagine the situation being much worse than it already is (though I'm sure it'll find a way)

bionicjoey , to asklemmy in how do you deal with aggressive people / families while at work?

Call security. It’s not your job to be a hero.

MentalEdge ,
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Agreed, while I wrote a much more elaborate response, doing whatever it takes to make sure no-one is hurt is priority one. Your own safety included.

corsicanguppy ,

Included? First. It’s like the oxygen mask on airplanes.

MentalEdge , (edited )
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I don’t entirely agree. If you can help, you should. Not the to the point of suicidal martyrdom, but a small shared risk is better than making a single person alone bear much more.

The reason you put your own mask on in an airplane first, is that without it you lose consciousness very quickly.

The low oxygen environment won’t instantly kill, either, so you’re not actually trading in their chances for yours. After you get your own mask on, the person next to you will be perfectly fine even if unconscious, as you can now get their mask on in their stead.

It’s simply the most logical thing to do, all factors considered.

There are plenty of emotional reasons for people to take a bullet for someone else.

But even beyond that, there are cases where a bit of self-sacrifice makes logical sense, and is the right thing to do. Prioritising your own chances even over a win-win scenario, would be kind of a dick move.

HamsterRage ,

The workplace should have a zero tolerance policy about abuse of the staff. If the particular location is one where there is a significantly non-zero chance of such incidents happening, then there should be a big red button on the wall that sounds and alarm, and summons security and possibly triggers a police response.

Employees should be trained to hit the button at the first hint of abuse. The employer should support them.

Illecors , to linux in What distros have you tried and thought, "Nope, this one's not for me"?

Most of them.

  • Debian world - apt sucks. For something with a sole purpose of resolving a dependency tree, it’s surprisingly bad at that.
  • Redhat world - everything is soooo old. I can see why business people like it, buy I rarely, if ever, agree with business people.
  • Opensuse world - I’ve only tried it once, probably 15 years ago. Didn’t really know my way around computers all that much at the time, but it didn’t click and I’ve left it. Later on I found out about their selling out to Microsoft and never bothered touching it again.
  • Arch - it was my daily for a year or two. Big fan. It still runs my email. At some point the size of packages started to annoy me, though. Still has the best wiki. I’ve never really bothered with the spinoffs, as the model of Arch makes them useless and more problematic to deal with.

I’ve got the Gentoo bug now. For the first time I genuinely feel ~/. A lean, mean system of machines :)

miss_brainfart ,
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never really bothered with the spinoffs, as the model of Arch makes them useless and more problematic to deal with

I highly enjoy using EndeavourOS. But then again, I wouldn’t classify it as a spinoff, it’s pretty much vanilla Arch, but purple.

Now Manjaro on the other hand… Tried it and understood why so many people don’t like it within the first week.

Kusimulkku ,

I’ve used EndeavourOS but thought it was fugly enough not to use it hah

miss_brainfart ,
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Well damn, federation took its sweet time to show me your reply

estebanlm ,
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Mind to elaborate a little bit more about the Manjaro problem? I am driving it since a couple of years without any issue but I keep hearing this… now I am afraid :)

lemmyvore ,

Keep using it if it works for you.

Manjaro detractors are usually:

  • People who do stuff they shouldn’t, like using non-recommended kernel or driver versions or replace critical system components from AUR, then blame it on the distro when stuff breaks.
  • People who don’t understand how AUR works and think that Manjaro holding back binary packages for a couple of weeks has any effect on AUR (which is built from source…)
  • People who can’t get over the times when they didn’t renew their certs or when they accidentally DDoS’ed the AUR. It doesn’t matter if the distro is good or not. Those instances of carelessness should be held against it forever.
  • People who can’t stand the fact it’s a commercial distro.
  • People who can’t stand the thought of any Arch-based distro that dares to do anything different from Arch (other than make the install easier, that one seems to be acceptable for some reason; but there are more extreme people who dislike that too).
LeFantome ,

I am trying to think of how to respond to this without being a jerk.

Let me skip to the end. Until very recently, I thought of Manjaro users as innocents that just did not understand the risk. Like islanders living next to a volcano that had never erupted in their lifetime.

I still view most Manjaro users that way. Manjaro defenders though I now think of as dog owners whose animals have bitten multiple times. When told, the owner insists that “my dog would never do that” or “if it did, you must have done something wrong”. I am done arguing with those people. All I can do is warn others that this dog has bitten several of us and you may not want to enter that yard. If you do, who knows, the dog may be friendly. Or not. Again, all I can tell you is that many of us have scars. Use that information as you will.

Most “Manjaro detractors” I have encountered have years of experience with both Manjaro and other Arch distros. Their tales come from experience. When they share their cautionary tales, there are often Manjaro defenders whose best defence is just to deny that what the “detractors” are saying ( about their own experience ) is real.

My core question for the defenders would be, if it is our fault, why do we only encounter the problems on Manjaro?

Let’s go through the bullets above one by one:

  • I never did that on Manjaro. I probably do it more on EOS. Why only problems on Manjaro?
  • why does my lack of knowledge of how the AUR works only break things on Manjaro?
  • this bullet is the best. It admits that Manjaro has repeatedly broken things but we should not hold it against it. Literally this is saying that “Manjaro breaks things” is wrong because, while it does, we should just get over it. Hilarious.
  • how does attacking the “detractors” address the claim that Manjaro breaks things?
  • how does attacking the “detractors” address the claim that Manjaro breaks things?

I got in a lengthy back and forth with a Manjaro fan the other day where I repeatedly related the ways that Manjaro used to break on me and how that does not happen for me on vanilla Arch or EndeavourOS. They just kept coming back telling me that it could not have happened and, if I thought it could, that I did not understand how the AUR works. It was insane. Basically, this guy could not follow what I was saying to him. His response to his inability to understand the scenario that I was describing was to insult my intelligence and expertise.

Look loser. I don’t care if you believe me that your dog bites. I will continue to warn people and they can decide if they want to risk it or not.

lemmyvore ,

Isn’t it funny how none of the people who claim that Manjaro “just broke” on them can recall what the problem was? They can’t point at a bug report. It’s nothing they did, naturally (they’re “experienced” users, after all). It just broke.

Meanwhile, it never broke for me or others, in years of use, with dozens of AUR packages installed. So yeah. I think I’ll stick to concrete evidence like a rational person, thanks.

LeFantome ,

I hope it works for you forever. I am not going to get in an argument with the other Manjaro users here that will come to argue with you.

Just keep in mind that most of the people warning you away from Manjaro have a story that basically sums up as “I used to love Manjaro until, one day, it totally broke on me. Now I won’t touch it.” Sadly, this includes me. Will you join us one day? I hope not.

Samueru ,

Most stories of people having manjaro break involve nvidia and not knowing how to build kernel entries.

lemmyvore ,

A few years ago I wanted to get away from Ubuntu on my desktop PC so I sat down and considered about a dozen of the most recommended Linux distros install images.

My requirements were:

  • Image should be live so I could test it without installing.
  • Should work out of the box with everything I could think to throw at it: wifi, Bluetooth devices including controllers, network shares, play music/video out of the box, printing, audio devices on USB etc.
  • Easy to install and maintain. No need for brain-dead install or zero maintenance, I’m a seasoned Linux user and anyway I don’t want to be absurd, but I also don’t want to spend my spare time debugging or maintaining the desktop system. I have a server for that.
  • Recent packages and frequent updates, but stable.
  • Usable for everyday use, work (mostly Citrix and other forms of remote desktop) and of course gaming.
  • Rolling release.

Guess which distro ticked absolutely every single box.

LeFantome ,

You are trolling us.

If you want stable, the answer is not Manjaro. If you do not have time for debugging, the answer is for sure not Manjaro.

lemmyvore ,

Suit yourself. I’m telling you that you’re sleeping on one of the most user-friendly, up to date, gaming-ready, stable and generally hassle free distros out there, and it’s coming from someone who actually tried all the popular ones.

In exchange you just have to stick to a LTS kernel and not replace critical system components from AUR. Which I think you’ll agree are reasonable conditions for all Arch distros, heck, all distros.

Try it, don’t try it, up to you.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Later on I found out about their selling out to Microsoft and never bothered touching it again.

Ah yes, when Microsoft looked for a contractor to develop FOSS implementations of some Windows technologies to meet demands by the EU and Mark Shullteworth made a big fuss of it until making deals with Microsoft himself…

Shareni ,

What about that time Suse supported Microsoft’s claim that Linux infringes on their patents? Ms got enough grounds to sue everyone even marginally related to Linux for over a decade, Suse got a contract to sell licences that prevent Ms from suing companies for using Linux.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

The wider company, that included Novell at that time, entered some cross patent licensing deal. It happens all the time. Didn’t kill Linux as we can comfortably say these days.

Shareni ,

With enough sophistry anything can seem insignificant. The Linux we use today has developed within the constraints of Microsoft threatening to sue anyone and everyone. The only reason they could do that was due to suse, as the longest running commercial distro, publicly saying that Linux infringes on those patents.

Illecors ,

No, it was the “don’t sue us and we’ll testify in your favour while you’re suing our competition”.

woelkchen ,
@woelkchen@lemmy.world avatar

Considering that the competition is alive and well today, I think it’s fair to assume that this claim didn’t come true.

Illecors ,

Whoosh.

sep ,

I disbelive the debian answer here. Sounds like a case of frankendebian wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian

Been usig Debian for home and work and on hundreds of servers for 2 decades and it have been near flawless. Any issues i have had have always been my own fault.

Illecors ,

While debian is the least offensive, I did explicitly say world. Add your buntus, mints, whathaveyou into the mix and shit hits the fan very quickly. Yes, real world runs that bollocks in prod. No, I do not agree with it.

someacnt_ ,

Doesn’t debian also suffer from apt’s pitfall

Illecors ,

It does, but apt is the only package manager on Debian.

Heratiki ,

I need to try Gentoo again. The installer used to be absolute garbage and required a ton of work to get the a usable system if you deviated too far from a normal computer setup.

Illecors ,

There is no installer as such. You copy an archive, extract it and rebuild @world. Anything beyond that is up to you. I’m sticking to openrc - haven’t had any issues since libxcrypt news item. Can’t even recall what it was.

Heratiki ,

That’s interesting! I’ll have to give it a shot!

Shimitar ,

Gentoo all the way since 20 years, on all kind of devices, going strong and never looked back.

Ubuntu, I hate you. A messy complex windows-esque caricature in the Linux world, where “somebody else” knows better than me and shoves it down my gully.

So there you go, my best and worst distros choice.

Illecors ,

I’ve only got a few years on Gentoo - how has your journey been? You must’ve started with stage 1!

Shimitar ,

Well, yes, stage3 has been a revolution. But I don’t remember using stage1 directly. I started with Linux way earlier than gentoo… On 386.

beta_tester ,

What’s the relation between opensuse and microsoft?

In 2014 some wrote that there is none forums.opensuse.org/t/…/5

Illecors ,

It is that deal from 2006(?) or so. Agreeing to not be sued for an exchange of money is dodgy. Add the competition which was not offered the same deal; add in the environment which was drastically different; it was a shit thing to do. Purely a business decision. I understand why the shareholders wanted that, but that doesn’t make it right nor desirable for me.

Granted, nothing came out of it in the end and Linux managed to get itself established in a way where one could argue is close to impossible to get rid of it, but I feel like this deal is similar to getting stabbed - the one being stabbed will always bear a scar and remember, while others will forget over time. People growing up after this deal will never have experienced the mood and environment of that time which only makes it more difficult to understand why it was a big deal.

beta_tester ,

Instead of providing apple’s chips to everyone, they keep them to themselves.

I’ll support suse as that’s not really an issue in my opinion.

Veritrax , to games in What's up with Epic Games?

I personally don’t like Epic for paying developers for exclusivity deals, keeping games off other PC platforms for a year or more. Artificial scarcity is bad for consumers.

ElPussyKangaroo OP ,

Definitely a terrible idea.

Using money to jump ahead in the line is a terrible mindset. Provide good features, you’ll get your recognition.

hh93 ,

No it won’t - people are lazy

Even CDProjekt sold many more copies on steam than GOG when you

  1. Actually own the ge there instead of renting a licence for it.
  2. Know that 100% of your money go to the game developers.
  3. Get many additional goodies for free

Don’t tell me people are choosing the better deal when it’s all just steam having the might of “I have most of my games there already” on their side…

JustEnoughDucks , (edited )
@JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl avatar

Which they don’t do. Their platform has very few features, and doesn’t even have a cart. (Well last time I booted EGS like a year ago).

They have almost no features and of the features they do provide, none of them are great. Their only “feature” is operating at a loss, subsidized by megacorps, for many years like Amazon to gain a bunch of market share.

Luckily for gamers, steam already existed so they couldn’t corner the market and enshittify the entire industry like amazon did.

MrScottyTay ,

It doesn’t really bother me since it’s still on pc anyway, it doesn’t matter massively where you get a game from (unless you specifically want drm free copies).

GeneralEmergency ,

Especially when Epic is funding development with those deals.

pivot_root ,

Even worse is that they do this while trying to paint themselves as the underdog against the Steam monopoly. It’s not only hypocritical, but also deceitful. A new monopoly is not a solution to an existing monopoly, but a solution to investments paying off.

Killer ,

Don’t forget them being hypocritical again for suing google/apple for being monopolistic because they don’t want to have to go through them for payment.

Kecessa ,

You guys don’t understand what a monopoly is…

pivot_root ,

I do know what it is, and I don’t actually think Steam is one. They have a considerable market share, but they are by no means the only way to get games on PC, nor do they exercise their dominance in a way that stifles competition.

I’m pretty sure Tim Sweeny knows this as well, but he still calls it a “monopoly” whenever he has the chance.

Kecessa ,

They were sued in the EU for violating anti trust laws, lost and decided not to cooperate.

They’re currently getting sued for forcing devs to not sell their games at a lower price on other platforms.

Their marketshare is more than enough to consider them a monopoly, you don’t need 100% of the market to be one, you just need to be so implanted that you become the default solution. Google doesn’t have 100% of the market, it still is considered a monopoly for search engines

Kecessa ,

Why not say fuck the developers instead? They’re the ones accepting guaranteed income in exchange for exclusivity, maybe you should be mad at then for not taking a chance at the “influencer making your game popular enough that you recoup your cost” lottery.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Por que no dos?

If I’m not buying anything on Epic then I’m also not buying from developers that agree to Epic’s exclusivity. Two birds, one stone.

Kecessa ,

They got paid for the exclusivity, after that if they don’t sell as much then so be it, but just releasing on Steam is like choosing to play the lottery as a retirement plan and signing an exclusivity deal is like having a job, one might pay tens of millions or nothing, the other you’re sure will let you buy food for the next couple of years.

There’s tons of games on Steam that the devs have put everything they had in it only to never see any success and then you’ve got games like Vampire Survivors where nothing happened for months until suddenly a YouTuber started playing it and it became a major success. And I mean, good for Luca (and eventually for his team), but for every successful small dev there’s tens of unsuccessful ones…

EnderMB , to fediverse in Lemmy.world Should Defederate with Threads

Given that we’ve watched communities like Reddit become more closed, I would rather Lemmy not do the same. The best thing an instance can do is keep them on a very tight leash, and kick out at the first sign of a rule being broken.

What Lemmy needs, above anything, is engagement. Be open to the users from Threads, instead of punishing them because you hate Meta. Many people joined Lemmy because the idea of the fediverse meant freedom to choose, and while instances are free to allow/deny who they want, it shouldn’t be a detriment to users that want to experience Lemmy.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Same. Defederate - or rate limit - them if the load should become an issue.

Maggoty ,

Defederating Threads doesn’t make us a closed community. All that’s going to happen is we’ll basically end up on Threads without actually being on Threads. People will either migrate there or to an instance that doesn’t have Meta/Facebook everywhere.

krolden ,
@krolden@lemmy.ml avatar

Theyre free to join an instance that isn’t owned by meta

laverabe ,

That’s not how EEE works at all. Facebook will embrace Lemmy, extend/improve Lemmy, and then extinguish/disadvantage the native Lemmy community, until the Lemmy server serves so little of a purpose it is shut down.

Eldritch ,

How? The unhinged ranting that threads will federate with mastodon, not Lemmy. And the frothy incoherent rage that Lemmy needs to defederate from something that doesn’t currently exist and will not impact them significantly in any way once they do exist. Makes me think none of you have actually thought this through in a rational manner.

angrymouse ,

Ahmm, lemmy.world is already federated with mastodon as well, fediverse is one network of federated instances, it is not one for mastodon and another for lemmy. You can interact with mastodon post already from here

Eldritch ,

Yes. And you’d struggle to find where someone did that. It’s so awkward and uncommon it’s truly a non issue.

sour ,
@sour@kbin.social avatar

lemmy isnt for profit company

ItsMeSpez ,

Except that Threads is not going to engage mutually so this argument is moot. If we federate with Threads but they do not federate with us, what exactly to we have to gain from this besides Meta’s rage algorithms?

bluefirex ,

Great how everyone saw one post from Mosseri a week ago and decided to just ignore all following posts. The one-sided federation atm is TEMPORARY. They will fully federate in the upcoming months.

ItsMeSpez ,

Then we shouldn’t even be considering our federation until they are willing to properly join the community.

Feathercrown , to asklemmy in Dear Lemmy, **why** Star Trek??

Thr “federation” you say? ;)

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