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aarroyoc , to linux in Which communication protocol or open standard in software do you wish was more common or used more?
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IPv6. Lack of IPv4 addresses it’s a problem, specially in poorer countries. But still lots of servers and ISPs don’t support it natively. And what is worse. Lots of sysadmins don’t want to learn it.

BaldProphet ,
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IPv6 is great, but NAT is quite functional and is prolonging the demise of IPv4.

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  • cmnybo ,

    NAT is not for security, that’s what the firewall is for. Nobody can access your IPv6 network unless you allow access through the firewall.

    ReversalHatchery ,

    I don’t think they were talking about access to the network.

    technom ,

    “The inside of the network stay anonymous” sounds like they are talking about internet access to the internal network.

    ReversalHatchery ,

    If computers connect to others through the internet, the IPv6 address can reveal how many computers there are on the local network, and if certain traffic to different destinations are coming from the same computer, but also if one of the computers has gone offline but then resumes from sleep/hibernation.
    To me their comment means they want to avoid that, and I agree, I want to avoid that too. To fix these, I would need to configure NAT on my router for IPv6.

    Yes IPv6 address privacy extensions help somewhat, but

    • computers won’t use a different v6 address for every distinct destination, they will just start using a new one from time to time
    • computers won’t stop using the old v6 address immediately after wakeup

    With v4 addresses these did not really matter, because everything was being sent from the same public IP, and and outside observer could only see what a “network” is doing collectively. But with v6 an address identifies a computer, across websites/services. Even if it’s just for a "short’ time, even if the address is randomized.

    frezik ,

    If you want privacy, you need some kind of VPN or onion routing. Even if everything you list were correct, the difference between IPv4 and 6 for privacy would be marginal.

    ReversalHatchery ,

    I don’t think this is so black and white. I’m a regular tor user, but so often it’s not worth it to load webpages through a dial-up connection, and then there are the sites that block access for tor users for some reason.

    Even if everything you list were correct

    Which parts weren’t?

    the difference between IPv4 and 6 for privacy would be marginal

    I disagree

    KISSmyOSFeddit ,

    You can have that with ipv6, too.

    vzq ,

    Found the guy that does not want to learn IPv6!

    lemmyvore ,

    You’re thinking of a firewall. NAT is just the thing that makes a connection appear to come from an IP on the internet when it’s really coming from your router, and it’s not needed with IPv6. But you would not see any difference with IPv6 without it.

    dgriffith , (edited )

    You’re thinking of a firewall. NAT is just the thing that makes a connection appear to come from…

    That connection only “appears to come from” if I explicitly put a rule in my NAT table directing it to my computer behind the router doing the NAT-ing.

    Otherwise all connections through NAT are started from internal->external network requests and the state table in NAT keeps track of which internal IP is talking to which external IP and directs traffic as necessary.

    So OP is correct, it does apply a measure of security. Port scanning someone behind NAT isn’t possible, you just end up port scanning their crappy NAT router provided by their ISP unless they have specifically opened up some ports and directed them to their internal IP address.

    Compare this to IPV6 where you get a slice of the public address space to place your devices in and they are all directly addressable. In that case your crappy ISP router also is a “proper” firewall. Strangely enough it usually is a “stateful” firewall with default deny-all rules that tracks network connections and looks and performs almost exactly like the NAT version, just without address translation.

    domi ,
    @domi@lemmy.secnd.me avatar

    So OP is correct, it does apply a measure of security. Port scanning someone behind NAT isn’t possible, you just end up port scanning their crappy NAT router provided by their ISP unless they have specifically opened up some ports and directed them to their internal IP address.

    You end up just port scanning their crappy router on IPv6 as well because ports that are not opened are stuck at the firewall either way, no matter if you use IPv4 or IPv6.

    Just because every device gets a public IP does not mean that IP is publicly accessible.

    An advantage that IPv6 has against port scanning is the absurdly large network sizes. For example, my ISP gives me a /56 prefix, that is 4,722,366,482,869,645,213,696 IPv6 addresses. Good luck finding the used ones with the port open you need.

    Even with just a /64 prefix you get 18,446,744,073,709,551,616 addresses, way outside the feasibility of port scanning.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    Compare this to IPV6 where you get a slice of the public address space to place your devices in and they are all directly addressable. In that case your crappy ISP router also is a “proper” firewall. Strangely enough it usually is a “stateful” firewall with default deny-all rules that tracks network connections and looks and performs almost exactly like the NAT version, just without address translation.

    realistically, it wouldnt surprise me if ISPs started NATing on residential IPV6 networks, just for the simplicity, but still allowed end users to assign their own IPs if they so pleased. Given the surge in shitty IOT devices, that’s probably a good thing for most people. Though a firewall would also accomplish this as well.

    frezik ,

    No. Stop spreading that myth. NAT does fuck all for security. If you want a border gateway, you can just have a border gateway.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    you know what is more secure? Not being connected to the internet.

    Alk ,

    My isp decided to put me behind a CGNAT and broke my access to my network from outside my network. Wanted to charge me $5 a month to get around it. It’s not easy to get around for a layman, but possible. More than anything it just pissed me off that I’d have to pay for something that 1 day ago was free.

    SandroHc ,
    @SandroHc@lemmy.world avatar

    How can you bypass CGNAT?

    Alk ,

    Set up a reverse proxy on another machine (like one of those free oracle cloud things). I can’t go into detail because I don’t know exactly how. I think cloudflare also has options for that for free. Either way it’s annoying.

    ChilledPeppers ,

    Cloudflare tunnel, and its alternatives, such as localXpose, altho the privacy is probably questionable, and a many of them require a domain.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    NAT is functional as long as you like NAT, which im pretty sure nobody likes, so uh.

    BaldProphet ,
    @BaldProphet@kbin.social avatar

    Plenty of people like NAT.

    KillingTimeItself ,

    the only people that like nat are network admins, and ISPs.

    Everyone else hates them. The rest don’t care, but they wouldn’t know a NAT if it hit them in the face.

    Zer0_F0x ,

    Am sysadmin, can confirm I don’t wanna learn it.

    Nyanix ,
    @Nyanix@lemmy.ca avatar

    Also a sysasmin, really don’t wanna learn it…or have to type it on the daily

    KillingTimeItself ,

    not a sysadmin, but i admin a system or two, have yet to learn it myself, but will eventually learn it.

    vzq ,

    Lots of really large sites are horribly misconfigured. I had intermittent issues because one of the edge hosts in Netflix ‘s round robin dns did not do MTU discovery properly.

    PlexSheep , (edited )

    My university recently had Internet problems, where the DHCP only leased Out ipv6 addresses. For two days, we could all see which sites implemented ipv6 and which didn’t.

    Many big corpo sites like GitHub or discord Apperently don’t. Small stuff like my personal website or suikagame.com do.

    Vilian ,

    github is so stupid with that, it’s actually funny

    Mythnubb ,

    That’s a fun little game there!

    folkrav ,

    Say this to my very large Canadian ISP who still doesn’t support IPv6 for residential customers. Last I checked, adoption in Canada was still under 50%.

    calcopiritus ,

    50%?? I fucking wish. In Spain we are at 5%. I finally got IPv6 in my phone this year, but I want it in my home, which is still only available as IPv4 even if they’re the same ISP.

    MrQuallzin , to nostupidquestions in Worried about being "red flagged" by the pharmacy; should I take the rest of my script back?

    Pharmacy professional weighing in.

    You have absolutely nothing to worry about. Controls are monitored for what’s filled. Like another user said, if you take them back the pharmacy will just destroy them, nothing is documented. There are often self-serve drop boxes for meds in pharmacies, look to see where they might be in your area (Most of the time it’s a pharmacy, but can be elsewhere). Nothing is reported with med disposal.

    Gonna say as well that 10 tabs is absolutely nothing. 5-325 can come in bottles of 500 tabs, and seeing prescriptions for month-long supplies for chronic pain users is pretty common.

    The drug reporting watches for patient safety by making sure that a patient isn’t getting multiple prescriptions (potentially at different pharmacies, or different prescribers) that could interact with each other. Let’s say you take Oxycodone 5mg three times daily chronically. You get in an accident and the emergency room prescribes you Norco (your hydro/APAP 5-325). The monitoring tool lets them know that you’re already on an opioid and to either change therapy or verify the additional dose with your PCP.

    Anyways I’m rambling. Long story short, you’ve got the least suspicious prescription. Nothing to worry about.

    ada , (edited ) to asklemmy in What is the most inspirational thing you saw or heard that changed your life?
    @ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    “The first thing that jumps to your mind isn’t always what you truly think. Sometimes, it’s just what you’ve been trained to think. What matters, is what you do next”

    I grew up in a really racist, queerphobic environment, and that comment really helped me by letting me give myself space to undo the bigoted indoctrination I had been taught, without getting trapped in guilt and self disgust whenever one of the racist or bigoted things I was raised with jumped in to my mind.

    It let me recognise the bigoted thought as something I was trained to think, rather than being what I actually believe, and by recognising it, I could disempower the thought, and start to unlearn it

    TVgog56789 OP ,

    That’s a powerful thought.

    Conditioning significantly influences our psyche.

    These thoughts that are the result of conditioning are like knee jerk reactions.

    Our brain is designed to conserve energy so it actually prioritises conditioned knee jerk reactions rather than introspective thoughts.

    One needs significant amount of training to bypass this process.

    lanolinoil ,
    @lanolinoil@lemmy.world avatar

    Similarly if you shit talk yourself in your head to motivate yourself it really will eventually start to condition you that way even if it does motivate you

    tubbadu , to piracy in what's your wishlist for piracy?

    That dubbed audio tracks of movies could be downloaded separatey and easily merged in the audio, in a way similar to subtitles. This way, the audio track in non English languages would be downloaded very quickly, even with just one seeder, and the whole movie in original language has way more seeders than dubbed ones.

    Jackhammer_Joe ,

    I’d love that!

    How do you approach the challenge (of getting the movies / series in English and non-English) at the moment?

    Do you download two versions of the same movie?

    Do you use Radarr/Sonarr and Plex? How did you set them up to be “bilingual”?

    tubbadu ,

    I’ve always only torrented movies “manually” until a few weeks ago, when I set up my first media server with jellyfin and sonarr/radarr, and set the language to italian only. often however I see that the requested movies not downloading automatically because no italian torrent is found with the required resolution (1080p), and/or the ones actually available have 0 seeds, while there’s plenty of English torrents with loads of seeders

    WarmApplePieShrek ,

    Which trackers do you use?

    tubbadu ,

    Currently as italian trackers Ilcorsaroblu, itatorrents and MIRCrew, do you know other good trackers for italian media?

    Appoxo ,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    As someone being bilingual en/de and my family being primarily pl/de:
    I will either manually remux my own from torrent/usenet releases or (usually for shows) usually just download the german version.
    Usually the uploaders include the english track anyway.

    Regarding your question for multilingual radarr/sonarr: trash-guides.info/…/radarr-setup-quality-profiles…
    Just replace fr with language of choice :)

    Jackhammer_Joe ,

    Thank you for chipping in!

    I guess I have to keep my eyes open for movies series in my own language and hope they come with the original (English) sound included.

    But if not: how does the whole remuxxing work? I have literally zero ideas how to get started with that. Where do you find the right (non-english) audio track(s) for the movies? Which software do you use? Etc…

    Thanks for the link for Radarr dual-language setup! I came across it before :)

    Appoxo ,
    @Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    How to remux:
    My program of choice: MakeMKV
    How to:
    Import two sources
    Choose which tracks you want -> Example:
    Video: The best video track of the two
    Audio: 7.1 dolby EN (source 1) and Stereo DE (source 2)
    Subtitle: 2-4 subtitle tracks (if needed). 2 from source 1 in EN, 2 from source 2 in DE
    Remux it into a MKV (basically a zip version of a movie folder with each track included)
    Rename your own release to fit the naming scheme
    Import into *arr/media library.

    For an actual guide better search on YT/Google as only text might be difficult.

    WhatAmLemmy ,

    Ditto for audio in general. I notice wild differences between encodings in dialogue clarity and volume. If this were standard we could all mix and match whatever audio is best for our equipment.

    Princeofspace ,

    Would be great for commentary tracks too.

    hushable ,

    I’ve seen some anime releases where they had separate mka files for different languages and a little script to attach whatever dub you want into it. It is technically possible already, but super rare

    ledifrellim ,

    Where to download separately?

    weew , to nostupidquestions in Why does incest result in birth defects?

    Many birth defects are rare, and require 2 copies of a defective gene to show up. Most “normal” people will be carrying a few defective genes (out of thousands of pairs), but are fine because they have a good copy still working.

    Family members tend to have similar genes.

    The chances of you and a family member having the SAME defective gene are massively greater than you and some random stranger.

    Thus any child would also have a massively greater chance of inheriting 2 identical copies of the defect.

    KoboldCoterie , to asklemmy in What quotes from children's media went hard as hell for no reason?
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    “Animals don’t behave like men,’ he said. ‘If they have to fight, they fight; and if they have to kill they kill. But they don’t sit down and set their wits to work to devise ways of spoiling other creatures’ lives and hurting them. They have dignity and animality.”― Richard Adams, Watership Down

    That book does a really good job of presenting just how shitty humans are pretty much throughout, without coming across as being preachy or sanctimonious, and I like that.

    Bizarroland ,
    @Bizarroland@kbin.social avatar

    Watership down is PTSD camouflaged as children's media.

    mozz ,
    @mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

    Richard Adams wrote it based on his military time. Certain features of the book are clearly informed by his experience, like how they're constantly talking about how fatigued or rested they are, based on the speed they've been traveling or working and how long they've been at it.

    He said he based particular characters on particular people he knew. The seagull was a big explosives guy, Bigwig was a tough-as-hell officer that he really liked working with, and so on.

    SinningStromgald ,

    Watership Down and Animorphs. How the fuck did those books end up being kids books?

    naevaTheRat ,
    @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Because children are interested in darkness and fiction is a safe place to explore it and contextualise it?

    Thassodar ,

    Yeah Animorphs as a kid had a darkness that Goosebumps couldn’t touch. The first one for me was realizing that one of the party members was forever stuck as a fucking bird, and they had whole chapters of his perspective getting used to the fact that his former life is gone. That was unheard of at the time.

    naevaTheRat ,
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    Tobias. Totes tragic.

    Rachel becoming a fucked up person who only knew how to live in war was also great.

    Tomorrow when the war began was another childhood fave of mine.

    I wouldn’t say that sort of stuff was unheard of. My mum gave me some super tragic books about Polish kids during the war, there was loads of stuff with like thawing dead soldiers enough to steal boots etc. My mum’s Polish so fed me a lot of grim stuff to read to help understand her parents and their experiences. Idk if you’re usaian? maybe popular stuff was a bit more sanitised because of moral majority stuff?

    Thassodar ,

    Yeah I’m American and we had mostly Scholastic book fairs and the school library to count on for books. Animorphs, being published under them, was heavily advertised at the fairs.

    Considering myself to be an “advanced” reader I’d stick to the young adult books, but mostly sci-fi (Dune) and fantasy (Dhampir). For 5th or 6th grade me, though, Animorphs was engaging enough until a new book came out and was constantly checked out at the library.

    xkforce , (edited )

    Meanwhile:

    Cats: torture their prey to death as a form of play.

    Dolphins: you dont want to know.

    If a person did half the stuff animals do, no one could look at them the same again.

    People do some awful things but we are also probably the only species that has members that sympathise with other species above ourselves.

    Funkytom467 ,
    @Funkytom467@lemmy.world avatar

    Exactly what defines us is the sitting down and setting our wits to something.

    Sometimes it’s horror, sometimes it’s greatness.

    But everytime it’s more prominent than anything other animals can do.

    Because wits is the trait that succeed in evolution, it’s the trait that gives you more agency.

    fsxylo ,

    I once walked past like 20 ducks tearing apart one female to rape her. I’ll never feel bad eating meat.

    xkforce ,

    Oh yeah I forgot about ducks… an animal so rapey that females evolved some weird reproductive anatomy to help defend against it.

    Applejuicy ,

    Kicking ducks must be your favorite hobby then!

    BaumGeist ,

    we are also probably the only species that has members that sympathise with other species above ourselves

    I don’t buy that for a second, and neither would you if you’ve ever had a beloved pet. These little furry guys treat you like their bff, I can honestly see why some humans refer to them as fur babies.

    And it’s not just cats, dogs, and crows. If you know where to look (shoutouts to the BigBoye subreddit, for example), you can find evidence of all sorts of animal species befriending humans or other species outside their own.

    xkforce ,

    Ok fine dogs do. They’re superior lifeforms in general.

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    So much of that is dead wrong:

    Cats: torture their prey to death as a form of play.

    “Play” isn’t just an idle pursuit. It’s also a form of safe practice of one’s life pursuit. In the case of cats, they evolved to be almost 100% carnivores, so it’s natural for them to live, breath, and yes practice / play at honing their pursuit and kill skills. It is literally their fundamental job that separates them from dying off.

    Dolphins: you dont want to know.

    Let’s not forget two things here: 1) much of the rapey stuff (as with ducks) also serves the fundamental life model of reproduction being one of the highest natural priorities, however its accomplished; 2) dolphins are hella smart, just like us, and if anything, it goes to show that smart species with idle time can devise some pretty wild pastimes.

    If a person did half the stuff animals do, no one could look at them the same again.

    To compare the lifestyles of a single animal species (humans) with all the others is a fool’s mission. In fact, most animals live fairly predictable, innocuous lives. They have their classic interactions with the world and don’t tend to bother other species-- mainly because it’s not worth their time.

    People do some awful things but we are also probably the only species that has members that sympathise with other species above ourselves.

    Nonsense. Pretty much all higher social / tribal animals can pretty easily sympathise / empathise with other species, such as our fellow apes, dogs, cetaceans, corvids, elephants, parrots, and even domestic cats.

    @fsxylo

    Blue_Morpho ,

    It’s also a form of safe practice of one’s life pursuit. In the case of cats,

    much of the rapey stuff (as with ducks) also serves the fundamental life model of reproduction

    That doesn’t refute the poster above. Humans have evolutionary imperatives too.

    They have their classic interactions with the world and don’t tend to bother other species-- mainly because it’s not worth their time.

    That’s not nobility as the original Watership quote implies but a simple lack of capacity to conceive and implement evil. The original quote could equally wax poetic about how rocks don’t try to spoil other creatures lives.

    I agree that animals can also sympathize with other species. Intelligence is a spectrum.

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    That doesn’t refute the poster above. Humans have evolutionary imperatives too.

    It does when you put it in context, tho, that being that the poster above did not refute Adams’ point in any meaningful way. Specifically-- rape isn’t ordinary in terms of two-sex species, and is likely a poorer long-term survival mechanism compared to courtship species.

    That’s not nobility as the original Watership quote implies but a simple lack of capacity to conceive and implement evil. The original quote could equally wax poetic about how rocks don’t try to spoil other creatures lives.

    That’s not correct. Higher animals certainly possess more self-awareness than rocks, and have (as you say) a spectrum of capacity for self-awareness, for reflection, and for modifying one’s behavior.

    The real point is this-- unlike all known animals, we collectively have the information available to us of how terribly our existence and practices are fueling one of the greatest extinction events in Earth history… on track with causing civilisation to collapse, likely causing most of humanity to soon die out, if not go entirely extinct. We have not just that info based on the science, facts & reality, but the average mental capacity to understood and take necessary action to prevent all this. Or at least, we “had.” Instead we’ve collectively chosen to pursue our individual lives and let things sort themselves out. Well, good luck with that.

    Adams’ quote was perfectly fair IMO.

    Blue_Morpho , (edited )

    poorer long-term survival mechanism compared to courtship species.

    Evolution doesn’t care about ideal mechanics- only good enough. Rape was common in the ancient world. Rape happens today despite the long term survival favoring long term pairs.

    Higher animals certainly possess more self-awareness than rocks

    I was relating the spectrum of intelligence. That is human is to animal as animal is to rock. I didn’t claim that animals have no awareness but that they are less than humans. So attributing nobility to what is really a lack of ability is like attributing nobility to a rock.

    A rooster would plot and murder its neighbors if it had the intelligence and opposable thumbs to make weapons.

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    Evolution doesn’t care about ideal mechanics- only good enough. Rape was common in the ancient world. Rape happens today despite the long term survival favoring long term pairs.

    There’s certainly some facts & reality there, professor, but that still doesn’t change the fundamental point which Adams’ made, and I defended. It’s like you’re freely swinging from ‘matters of proportion’ to binary values in order to fit your argument.

    So attributing nobility to what is really a lack of ability is like attributing nobility to a rock.

    Which was a poor analogy from day one, considering the many permutations.
    Also-- that’s a pretty weird, tight-ass understanding of what Adams meant by “nobility.”
    Like, seriously…?

    A rooster would plot and murder its neighbors if it had the intelligence and opposable thumbs to make weapons.

    Okay, you win on that one-- I fear you’re exactly right there; ala chickens being such unnecessary assholes towards each other and other creatures.

    Tell you what, though-- feel free to have the last reply.
    It’s like you dance around a smidgen of a circuitous argument, but can never actually figure out what you’re actually trying to say. (or think) Good luck, you.

    Blue_Morpho ,

    but that still doesn’t change the fundamental point

    A poster pointed out that animals aren’t better than humans and will do anything they can get away with just like humans. You attempted to appeal to evolution which I refuted. The refutation means Adams is wrong. Animals are like humans because humans are animals too.

    It’s like you dance around a smidgen of a circuitous argument

    You insult when you’ve been proven wrong. Nice.

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    OH!
    My poor little one… :-(

    locuester ,

    Tell you what, though-- feel free to have the last reply.

    😒

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    Ohh, you’re so clever…
    You got me, pard!
    <falls over dead>

    xkforce ,

    People are not automatons that are obligated to no longer think a behavior is fucked up just because that behavior benefited these animals in terms of increasing the liklihood of them passing down their genes.

    As for one species empathising with another, that is a far cry from empathising more with another species than your own or being willing to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of another species. I WAS NOT saying that no species empathises with another.

    JohnnyEnzyme ,

    People are not automatons that are obligated to no longer think a behavior is fucked up just because that behavior benefited these animals in terms of increasing the liklihood of them passing down their genes.

    Sure, that’s fine. Label and condemn as you like.
    My point is, that’s not a relevant rebuttal to Adams’ quote, as most sexually dimorphic animals do not behave that way. I.e., females generally select their partners, and are not commonly raped. Indeed, that’s part of the whole long-term survival point-- that ‘courtship’ species have better chances for genetic diversity & fitness for their environs.

    As for one species empathising with another, that is a far cry from empathising more with another species than your own or being willing to sacrifice yourself for the benefit of another species. I WAS NOT saying that no species empathises with another.

    shrug
    Okay, if you say so. It sure sounded like it, but maybe I misread.

    sunbeam60 ,

    You forgot about the ducks.

    xkforce ,

    I made a comment further down in the chain about them. And quite frankly, I was trying to forget what they did.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    That kind of attitude is steeped in human supremacy. Even fucking plants do warfare. We’re not special, even in our capacity for evil.

    KoboldCoterie ,
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    Sure, but they don’t consciously choose to do it. Fungus doesn’t decide that it’s going to make life miserable for the plant it’s growing on, a tall shade tree doesn’t decide to starve the smaller plants beneath it of sunlight. We’re unique in our capacity to see a possible course of action, do an in-depth analysis of the effects that it will have, see every foreseeable shitty outcome, and decide, consciously, to do it anyway.

    Omega_Haxors ,

    This is idealistic bullcrap. When you actually look at nature you see lots of examples of lifeforms just choosing violence for no good reason.

    breakcore , to linux in Possible virus?(Firefox)

    1e100.net is google’s catch-all domain. Many of their services run under this domain.

    Read more here : support.google.com/faqs/answer/174717

    It is a geeky pun, 1e100 is scientific notation for 1 followed by a hundred zeroes. This number is called a googol, which is similar sounding to google.

    h3rm17 ,

    Indeed Google is named after the googol

    po_tay_toes ,
    @po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

    There goes my hope of Google being named after gabagool.

    akwd169 ,

    I’ll have the gabagool

    I’m sorry?

    The gabagool

    rivermonster , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in Why are so many countries in the world “developing” and poor, while essentially only Western countries have a high standard of living?

    You’re going to get a LOT of reductive and low effort answers from Lemmy radicals. But this is a super complex question, and there’s not a 5-second ELI5 answer if you really want to understand.

    Also, when the radicals scream at you, there’s going to be a core of truth. They’re going to yell about colonization and empires. That’s a major factor, but not an exclusive one. However, for getting radical and rabidly furious its all they’ll bother posting to you.

    Things to investigate, because answering this for yourself in a meaningful way is going to take a while and require study. Here are some topics but NOT an exhaustive list:

    1. Colonization
    2. Resources (natural and otherwise)
    3. Schooling, education, etc.
    4. Stability, politically and otherwise (note this will have overlap with colonial and non-colonial powers destabilizing things intentionally for geopolitical gain)
    5. Infrastructure (transportation, economic, water, medical, etc.)
    6. Medicine as regionally practiced, traditional vs based on the the scientific method.
    7. Geopolitics (isolationism, etc)
    8. Geography (i.e. the US’s greatest asset is its location, it neighbors no enemies and its main enemies are separated by an ocean. One of the key reasons the US focuses on the ability to project force)
    9. Religion
    10. Corruption (politically and non politically)
    11. Crime and non-military/nation based violence (also could get grouped under personal safety and security)

    And again, honestly, a lot of these topics will overlap, but that’s what I mean by there isn’t a quick, easy answer.

    And the reductive stupid answer is just yelling colonialism.

    There’s a reason people get PhDs in this subject. It’s not a quick, easy question.

    richieadler ,

    And the reductive stupid answer is just yelling colonialism.

    Most of those reasons, that are very real, are explicitly derived of colonialism.

    For instance:

    • 2 (resources) is the cause that the US promotes puppet right-wing governments or directly destroys countries to pillage them.
    • 3 (education) is systematically destroyed in many countries because they want to make public education disappear so it’s for profit. Again, following the US model and most likely benefiting US companies (for instance “educational” campaigns to teach proprietary products created by US companies, e.g. Microsoft)
    • 4 (stability) is directly threatened by the US foreign policy of destroying every country that is ideologically or economically inconvenient for the unimpeded proliferation of unbridled, savage capitalism.
    • 6: in many developing countries public health has been destroyed to follow for-profit schemes based in the US model, to benefit either US companies or US-backed right-wing politicians.
    • 11: Crime is worst in countries reduces to poverty, in many cases by US-backed lending policies sending countries into misery.

    All this, of course, is supported by years of colonial teachings after which the people in the “developing” countries despise themselves and look up to the powerful countries as inherently superior, even morally.

    XiELEd ,
    @XiELEd@lemmy.world avatar

    Not just the US. Cambridge Analytica is trying to manipulate our politics through scummy means such as misinformation campaigns. And our country is being fucked by the effects of Climate Change while western countries are celebrating because “it’s more sunny and warm now! :D”, and “finally more viable real estate!”

    rivermonster , (edited )

    Many of the issues CAN be and are linked to colonialism, reread what I wrote.

    Yes, your points are pertinent and support problems that colonialism is relevant to, I did not claim otherwise.

    However, you’re clearly focused on negatives and crimes (in many cases rightfully so) the US has caused. But the question wasn’t exclusive to the US and is not exclusive to the US.

    For the OPs question, trying to exclusively link everything to or overstate the colonial influence is an example of what I was saying as well.

    It’s comforting to pretend that we just say one word “colonialism” and think that now we’re experts on the subject. But there’s so much more than colonialism, which again is a big factor (the first I listed), and overemphasis of it while disregarding the other real issues and nuances is counterproductive to learning.

    richieadler ,

    Many of these issues can be also be related to the fact that the citizens of powerful countries are entitled assholes who vote their countries to continue the exploitation of other countries.

    Your membership in one of those citizen groups is, of course, completely conjectural, but I have a strong opinion about it.

    rivermonster ,

    It’s fine that you want to vent. Go ahead and raise that fist to the sky and give it hell, kiddo!

    If misdirecting that at me makes you feel better, do it. Rock on, and I’m glad I could help. I hope you feel better!

    doublejay1999 ,
    @doublejay1999@lemmy.world avatar

    You wrote all that, and didn’t mention the main reason, which is debt

    tatterdemalion ,
    @tatterdemalion@programming.dev avatar

    I’m not convinced, considering the US and many other countries with high standard of living are also leading the world in external debt (both total and per capita).

    en.wikipedia.org/…/List_of_countries_by_external_…

    Maybe you mean debt to GDP+wealth ratio? Or more specifically, bad credit with international banks.

    I’m not an economist though, so I’d be curious to hear if there is more explanation for why you consider debt to be “the main reason.”

    I am aware that some countries have been “screwed over” by large banks that had specific detrimental stipulations for debt forgiveness though. For example, look at the Latin American Debt Crisis.

    …the Fed convened an emergency meeting of central bankers from around the world to provide a bridge loan to Mexico. Fed officials also encouraged US banks to participate in a program to reschedule Mexico’s loans (Aggarwal 2000). As the crisis spread beyond Mexico, the United States took the lead in organizing an “international lender of last resort,” a cooperative rescue effort among commercial banks, central banks, and the IMF. Under the program, commercial banks agreed to restructure the countries’ debt, and the IMF and other official agencies lent the LDCs sufficient funds to pay the interest, but not principal, on their loans. In return, the LDCs agreed to undertake structural reforms of their economies and to eliminate budget deficits. The hope was that these reforms would enable the LDCs to increase exports and generate the trade surpluses and dollars necessary to pay down their external debt (Devlin and Ffrench-Davis 1995). Although this program averted an immediate crisis, it allowed the problem to fester. Instead of eliminating subsidies to state-owned enterprises, many LDC countries instead cut spending on infrastructure, health, and education, and froze wages or laid off state employees. The result was high unemployment, steep declines in per capita income, and stagnant or negative growth—hence the term the “lost decade” (Carrasco 1999).

    federalreservehistory.org/…/latin-american-debt-c…

    rivermonster ,

    Quoting myself here…

    Here are some topics but NOT an exhaustive list:

    Thought debt could go into some of the other categories. Calling it out individually or under a broader umbrella of economics would be fine, too. It’s just a suggestion list for OP to research.

    ExLisper ,

    Actually, you’re just reducing complex issue of exercising power over other countries to “colonialism” than trying to criticize people correctly recognizing this issue as “radicals”. Most of what you listed can be directly linked to western countries destabilizing other regions by military or covert actions, installing puppet governments, using their influence to steal resources and keeping other economies in check so that they don’t develop into competitors. No one thinks that it’s all because some country was a colony 200 years ago. Western influence never really ended in most of those countries and that’s what is keeping them down.

    XiELEd ,
    @XiELEd@lemmy.world avatar

    Colonialism has done really bad things in the African and Middle Eastern continent. When they withdrew they irresponsibly drew the borders and now civil wars happen all the fucking time

    rivermonster ,

    Yes, but OP was asking for more than a single high-level example. And, again, exclusively answering colonialism would be disingenuous if we implied that was THE answer instead of part of it.

    nickhammes , to nostupidquestions in If Trump and Biden both died today, what would happen?

    Kamala Harris becomes President, VP office is empty until she nominates a replacement and they’re confirmed by a majority vote of both houses of Congress, which likely does not happen.

    DNC needs to figure out how to select a new candidate, likely using a process they’ve created already but never tested.

    RNC already had primaries scheduled, and they’ll remove Trump from ballots where possible, as he’d be ineligible on account of having died, and they continue their primary process. It’s probably between Haley and Desantis in the end, seeing who can pick up more Trump voters. Ramaswami probably becomes a bit more relevant, but still loses.

    The media loses their minds, and the people of the Internet make so many references to Death Note.

    CrazyEddie041 ,
    @CrazyEddie041@kbin.social avatar

    You forgot the part where millions of people still write in Donald Trump based on the widespread conspiracy that he's still alive, and we get to figure out what happens when a state tries to elect a dead man.

    nickhammes ,

    I hate that you’re probably right

    Igotz80HDnImWinning ,

    Disagree. I fully support this conspiracy theory and I am quite certain the GOP would do it if they had the chance. It’s better than running ads for a 3rd party candidate to splitthe vote. Just get on and speculate or report sightings of him.

    Donebrach ,
    @Donebrach@lemmy.world avatar

    This would mean nothing because the electoral college exists. Likely all the red states would opt for the Republican candidate and blue for the Democratic candidate.

    Horsey , (edited )

    This happened in Missouri in 2000 for a senate seat. The governor appointed his widow to the senate seat which she lost in the special election shortly afterwards.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_United_States_Senate_election_in_Missouri#:~:text=Incumbent%20Republican%20Senator%20John%20Ashcroft,three%20weeks%20before%20election%20day.

    ji17br ,

    Election at Bernie’s.

    dutchkimble , to asklemmy in "If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, people will eventually come to believe it". What is an example of this happening today?

    That you catch a cold because you’re cold

    barrbaric ,

    IIRC there’s some evidence that cold temperatures weaken the immune system. Assuming it’s valid, that does mean that cold could be the deciding factor between contracting a cold or fighting if off.

    Now obviously germ theory is correct and it takes external infection to catch a cold, but it’s a pretty safe bet you’re being more or less constantly exposed to COVID and the flu whenever you’re in an indoor public space.

    linearchaos ,
    @linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

    While being cold isn’t the cause of a cold there are some links between being cold and transmission of the flu even beyond people huddling together inside.

    The lipids the viruses attach to become more durable hence resilient, and multiple studies have shown that cold temperatures have a suppressive effect on the immune system.

    uscvhh.org/…/the-real-reasons-you-get-sick-when-i…

    bermuda ,

    It’s weird seeing a regular colloquialism in a sea of politically charged comments. This one really seemed to get people riled up.

    tegs_terry , to asklemmy in "If you tell a lie big enough and tell it frequently enough, people will eventually come to believe it". What is an example of this happening today?

    Americans with their ‘greatest nation on earth’ charade.

    lolcatnip ,

    It has a name: American exceptionalism. It’s used both by people who know it’s a lie and by people who believe it.

    creamed_eels ,

    So it worked!

    Rooskie91 ,

    Most of what people believe about America’s history is post WWII mythmaking and revision. It’s a shame because the labor movement in America has a fascinating history, and we’re about to relive it.

    bartolomeo ,
    @bartolomeo@suppo.fi avatar

    The shoot-outs are going to be 100x better this time

    Rooskie91 ,

    Can’t wait to be teabagged by a Boston Dynamics robo dog after it murders my whole family for paying my Amazon Prime 2 days late!

    bermuda ,

    Not even that. Politicians in even just the generation after Washington deified the framers of the Constitution, even when the remaining alive ones protested against it.

    Ziggurat , to asklemmy in What is the European equivalent to a Las Vegas Elvis impersonator officiating the marriage heavily inebrieated strangers?

    Quick reminder that “Europe” is a mosaic of countries, and that there is a huge difference between let’s say, Portugal, Austria and Latvia.

    I don’t really think there is a country which would be so liberal regarding marriage that you could get married by Elvis or a Machine on short notice amd drunk just to get laid (on the other hand, most European cultures stopped caring about marriage, and donxt need it to get laid or have kids)

    ramble81 ,

    The US is a huge mosaic of states, and there’s a huge difference between say California and the Deep South.

    That being said, their question still stands as they were just curious about possibilities in a region. The US is just as large and diverse, so it’s possible something like that exists in Europe, and if so, what.

    Kusimulkku , (edited )

    Lmao Americans thinking calling it soda or pop is equivalent to what Europe has for cultural differences.

    the US is just as large and diverse

    LMAO peak Yank

    MataVatnik ,
    @MataVatnik@lemmy.world avatar

    pushes in glasses

    ULS ,

    Akt-chewilly.

    Kusimulkku ,

    dies of diabetes

    WetBeardHairs OP ,

    Yeah, the region in question was meant to be broad since this is a pretty specific and peculiar subject.

    pan_troglodytes ,

    most countries dont need marriage to have kids.

    JPJones ,

    Kinda like when people lump California and Alabama together when talking about Americans. Annoying, isn’t it?

    sndrtj ,

    The differences between California and Alabama are still an order of magnitude or more smaller than between e.g. Portugal and Latvia.

    JPJones ,

    All you just told me is that you haven’t been to either. You couldn’t be more wrong.

    cashews_best_nut ,

    This is classic r/ShitAmericansSay

    JPJones ,

    lol at the UK tag while talking shit

    cashews_best_nut ,

    I’m not making any bullshit claims about my country. You are.

    JPJones ,

    It isn’t bullshit. I don’t what else to tell you. 50 states, each with their own cultures and dialects. If you don’t want to believe it, that’s your business, but that’s the way it is.

    cashews_best_nut ,

    I can’t even be bothered arguing. Your level of stupid has been proven time and again to be immune to facts and reason. It’s very obvious you’ve never been to either of those fucking countries though otherwise you wouldn’t say what you did.

    JPJones ,

    If you say so. Doesn’t help that you jumped straight to calling me stupid for trying to tell you how it is. You don’t bother arguing because you don’t know what you’re talking about to begin with. Go back to reddit. You fit in better there.

    JPJones ,

    Cool. So you resort to insults and unsupported denial as your strongest arguments. You got me! I am stupid. Sorry for bothering you.

    cashews_best_nut ,

    If I thought you were amenable to changing your mind I’d consider arguing my point, but I’ve yet to see an American with such a brain-dead opinion change their mind. It would be like trying to convince a MAGAt that Donnie is unfit to be President.

    JPJones ,

    You aren’t arguing. You’re just saying “nuh uh” and “ur stupid”. Well, you got me! I am stupid. Sorry for bothering you.

    cashews_best_nut ,

    Re-read my first sentence. I know.

    roscoe ,

    I live in California. I’ve been to Alabama, Portugal, and Latvia (just this year for the Baltics, great places). I disagree.

    Parts of the deep south are just fucking alien in a way I’ve never felt anywhere else.

    Different places in Europe are, of course, different. But different in a way you can wrap your head around with an undercurrent of commonality. The same things being done in interestingly different ways by normal people.

    The sense of dislocation and strangeness I feel in certain (not all) places in the deep south is far beyond anything I’ve experienced, not just in Europe, but also Asia, South America, and North Africa.

    AchtungDrempels ,

    Not really, that would be more like lumping the states Bavaria and Schleswig-Holstein together when talking about Germans.

    JPJones ,

    Naw, that’s more like LA vs SF when talking about Californians. Different beliefs, social behavior, dialects, history, architecture, etc.

    You guys really need to get away from lumping Americans in the same bin in conversation. The US is huge and covers more diverse cultures in a single state than most people understand. We’re friends with Europeans, regardless of what country you’re from. We love you guys! Stop falling victim to propaganda and remember that we are allies.

    AchtungDrempels ,

    What.

    Kusimulkku ,

    But you do know the cultural differences there are TINY in comparison, right?

    JPJones ,

    Dang…6 day old response and I just got the notification. Sorry!

    They are not tiny by comparison, which is what I’m trying to convey. For one, we have every culture in the world fully represented here across multiple regions. If that isn’t enough to convince you, take a trip that includes maybe LA, Seattle, Idaho, Minnesota or anything adjacent, NYC, south Florida, Alabama or Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas. I doubt this will convince you, but I have to at least try. It really bothers me when people say shit like “Americans are x,” completely discounting the fact that we are a federation of 50 different countries, each with it’s own unique laws and cultures.

    /rant

    Kusimulkku ,

    It’s beyond bizarre to me that you’d think the differences between states in the US would be comparable to that of countries in Europe. Think of the language alone.

    JPJones ,

    Yes, and not even that stands. Every language you have, we have here as well. Just because English is our primary language doesn’t mean everyone here speaks it, either. Is it so hard to believe a nation of immigrants from around the globe is somehow more culturally diverse than Europe? Tell me where you’re from and I’ll take you to a community here that has everything you have there down to the floor tiles.

    seaQueue , to asklemmy in Can I get UberEats to stop recommending to "bundle" alcohol from a liquor store to your order?
    @seaQueue@lemmy.world avatar

    Just wait until they get caught targeting people in recovery for these liquor ads at the optimal time for them to cave and make an order. You know that shit’s going to be a scandal sometime in the next few years.

    Artyom ,

    My uncle was an alcoholic his while life, but in the last few years, alcohol delivery services were what killed him.

    Raiderkev ,

    My buddy’s dad is an alcoholic with a ton of health issues. He had a stroke a while back and had to quit drinking as a result. He can’t drive anymore or even really leave the house. Well, his wife recently passed away, and someone showed him door dash and Uber eats was a thing to help him get food delivered. He saw they had alcohol on it, and now he regularly gets beer delivered. Like, the guy’s old AF n lost his wife, so who am I to judge him wanting to get liquored up, but he probably wouldn’t be drinking right now if this all happened 10 years ago.

    AllonzeeLV , (edited ) to nostupidquestions in Does anyone feel like an actual adult?

    There is a paradox of confidence.

    The people most confident in their competence tend to be the least competent in practice.

    The Dunning–Kruger effect.

    Self-cheerleaders tend to be morons, the most intelligent people by their nature tend to second guess their own abilities. Idiots just stroll through life taking whatever credit they can grab.

    “The only thing I know is that I know nothing, and i am no quite sure that i know that.”

    -Socrates

    "Throughout my life, my two greatest assets have been mental stability and being, like, really smart.’

    -Donald Trump

    See the difference? By genuinely doubting, aka examining your abilities, you are in more competent company.

    sock ,

    more people oughta read about and pay attention to philosophy shit is actually pretty interesting. if nothing else just to see how predictable the uneducated monkey brain is.

    AllonzeeLV ,

    I’ve always considered the “why” to be the most important question for me.

    In our society, the answer is almost always money, which is a means and not an end, and so western culture seems to be miserably grinding itself into the dirt, usually without ever looking up and asking what the deeper point is.

    It’s really very tragic to me.

    doppelgangmember ,

    Putting the ‘capital’ in Capitalism.

    pixelscript , to asklemmy in Free Internet Non-Believers

    I feel like I’ve invited everyone in my family to go on a great, grand vacation away and I’m the only one who’s packed.

    From their perspective, you’re the fringe idealist who wants to move to a strange, remote place because of nebulous political ideology they neither understand nor wish to understand. And you are proposing that they uproot all of their preexisting social connections, support infrastructure, comfort, and familiarity to come live with you out in the middle of your scary, unfamiliar dystopia. Or, at least, force them to book a redeye flight and stay at a suspect hotel every time they want to visit you.

    And honestly, you really are the fringe idealist here. Look at where you are posting this. Look at how few of us there are. Look at how many hoops you needed to jump through to set up what you have now. I certainly don’t think you’re wrong to champion privacy-focused ideals, but it absolutely is, strictly speaking in a populist context, extremely weird. It is weird to want to understand computerized tech, to know what it actually does, and to make bold, against-the-grain choices based on that knowledge. This is the unfortunate reality, and you have to make your peace with it.

    I really do think your option is binary here. Join 'em, or cut 'em. Once you’ve shot your shot to convince someone to be more consciencious of their privacy and to take action to better secure it, and they frustratingly decline, that’s it. They are not coming with you. Further pressing the issue will just drive a wedge between the two of you. At that point, the choice is yours. What’s stronger, your willingness to stay conected, or your principles? Are you so rigidly disciplined that you’re willling to cut ties (at least, through these channels) just to keep it? If so, I guess that’s just a reflection of how much your principles really mean to you. If not, well, it’s SMS/RCS and Google Docs for you.

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