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WashedOver ,
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I wonder if they can also make a vehicle not near the bottom of the reliability rankings next?

BearOfaTime ,

Lol, careful, you’ll waken the VW mob. They don’t like to hear what garbage VWs are.

Can’t give me one.

WashedOver ,
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It appears there has been a few that caught this. I was surprised they were so far down the Consumer’s Report list for reliability as it was but honestly I don’t really think of the brand that much as it’s something my parents owned when I was a little kid then they moved onto Toyota and domestics.

It’s not to say others are better. I’ve was surprised by Ford’s decent down the list but not by Jeep’s continued place down there and I’ve owned many Jeeps.

HawlSera ,

Cool I like buttons

Edit: Why is this post yellow?

LemmyKnowsBest ,

yellow? give us a screenshot of what you see.

Lennnny ,
@Lennnny@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t eat it.

snaggen ,
@snaggen@programming.dev avatar

What?!? Pictures Under Glass turns out not to be the most desired solution for controling your car? Who could have guessed? /s

phx ,

They’re fine for certain things on an evolving menu etc, but not anything where a tactile sense might be needed to avoid distraction. A lack of volume knob is the thing that pisses me off the most in many vehicles, including my own.

Also, power should be a physical cutoff and NOT a soft button for head units. The one of my car is a software toggle and when the system started glitching, froze and also put out high volume noise with no way to kill it except to shut off the vehicle when I could safely do so

barsoap ,

Yep a good rule of thumb is probably “If you aren’t comfortable with having it disabled when the car is moving, don’t make it a picture under glass”. Managing playlists is a thing you can expect people to do when stationary, touchscreen is fine, skipping a song is done while driving, make it a button.

FlyingSquid ,
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My '16 Prius has a pretty good balance between touchscreen and buttons. The only thing I don’t care for is having to use the touchscreen to change radio presets, but I usually stay on the same station anyway.

marretics ,

This was a wonderful read, thanks

HouseWolf ,

You want buttons back because they’re easier to use

I want them back because I think car interiors look bland without them

We are not the same…alright I also want them back for the first reason aswell.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Safer to use.

Mr_Blott ,

I’m reading this as “VW is putting buttons back in cars because they reckon the EU is going to slap them for making dangerous cars”

Pirasp ,

That would be funny, but it’s more likely because they are about to go under if they don’t change something up. Doing one of the most requested this seems like a good start in that direction.

barsoap ,

Where with “going under” you presumably mean “doesn’t overtake Toyota and stays the 2nd biggest car company world-wide”. That’s by number of cars, by revenue VW is in first place.

I’d say it’s more a case of “yeah we should’ve guessed that how Tesla does things is just hype”.

jayandp ,

Reason why I love my Subaru is that it still has buttons for almost everything, yet still has Android Auto.

time_fo_that ,

Not the new ones. They’re all touch screen and it’s soooo slow to start up and do anything, including HVAC and heated seats. My friend’s new Outback has it and it’s not good.

GeminiFrenchFry ,

I have a '22 Crosstrek and most options are buttons with a large screen I use with Android Auto. I would hate HVAC and heated seats integrates into the screen because I love mine being buttons, switches, and dials. Plus, I can control most of the screen features from my steering wheel.

Pavidus ,

This is why I chose Mazda. No touch screen at all, just a display for Android auto.

KpntAutismus ,

my 1st gen yaris has a space for a 1din radio, but there’s a 3rd party frame that lets you get rid of the casette player (you read that right) and allows for a 2din radio.

buy one of those pioneer radios, throw some blaupunkt widebands in there, and i have a top of the line entertainment system.

i want to drive that car forever…

bufalo1973 ,
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I’d rather have a “non-touch” screen with buttons in a car. Just to show info. And be it right in front of me.

CrowAirbrush ,

Can we complain more about subscription paywalled car functions then?

danielfgom ,
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Sanity prevails at last!

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    Zipitydew ,

    That’s not true though. This happened in their EVs regardless of price range. Even the Porsche Taycan which requires using a screen to adjust HVAC vents. Other than some steering wheel buttons the Taycan is all screens.

    The Audi E-Tron GT (same chassis as the Taycan) oddly enough has more buttons. But that’s because VAG makes sure Porsche and Audi interiors are slightly different for different market segments.

    It’s more about VAG thinking (like many automakers) copying the Tesla trend was what people wanted. The mistake made was not considering Tesla early adopters often being techy people who might not match broader market opinion.

    bizzle ,
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    I, too, am guilty of vag thinking sometimes; but what does that have to do with Tesla or Volkswagen?

    Zipitydew ,

    VAG is common shorthanded for Volkswagen AG en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group

    Threeme2189 ,

    It’s also even more common shorthand for something else.

    www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=vag

    NotMyOldRedditName ,

    They also didn’t do it as well as Tesla which gave even more reason to dislike it.

    Agent_Engelbert ,

    Imagine paying the same price for a car that lacks the technology of:

    • Smart screen
      • With heat resistant materials that are designed to resist high temperatures and still function properly (i.e in summer times)
      • With GPS features, and media access
    • But the screen still sucks because you can literally buy a magnet and stick your phone there, and still be able to do literally everything a smart screen car do.

    I mean id still buy it because I prefer cars that are not so impractical, but it’s a shame that it still costs practically the same.

    Conceptually, a smart screen sounds like a good idea, but the implementation is bad.

    nutsack ,

    there should never be a fucking touch screen menu in a car for any reason

    xthexder ,
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    Maps? Android Auto / CarPlay? Gotta have the screen anyway for the mandatory backup camera.

    We can have both! Physical buttons for everything that doesn’t actually benefit from having a display, (like music or heat/ac), touch screen for the rest.

    Threeme2189 ,

    Just like my 2019 Hyundai Ioniq. Buttons for the car stuff and a touchscreen for media, calls, navigation, backup camera, etc. If the touchscreen were to shit the bed I’d still have a fully functional car minus the backup camera.

    Donjuanme ,

    Not all of the buttons. Please be reasonable. Just some of the buttons.

    I don’t need memory buttons.

    I don’t want to push the button half a dozen times, just to miss the menu I wanted by 1 click, and have to go around again.

    I don’t need separate am fm and cd buttons.

    I really don’t mind a touch screen for climate control, or audio interface. Just keep the business from moving around the screen at all and I’m pretty happy.

    troydowling ,

    I was with you up until the climate controls.

    Any control you can find in a 1997 Hyundai Accent should be physical.

    Anything else can be hidden behind a touchscreen because I’m not going to use it while driving anyway.

    My big request would be to drop the USB cable. I don’t know why I need to connect both USB and Bluetooth. I’d love to just leave my cell in my bag where it belongs instead of advertising yet another reason why someone should smash my windows in!

    jasondj ,

    Yeah climate control is where he lost me. My wife’s Honda odyssey has that.

    I’m okay with the soft-buttons for memory, or to toggle input, since they are always in fixed locations. In fact soft-buttons are slightly better because they are labeled with the station….though my 2013 Passat has the better compromise of a physical button with the station printed above it.

    But HVAC is where I draw the line. I guess the trade off would be that a thermostatically controlled digital systems are probably more simplistic, in their operation and maintenance, than the vacuum-and-linkage systems of yore, and this gives way to multi-zone climate systems in mass market cars. But I still hate that I have to utilize the touchscreen to change which blowers are on or to change the temperature in the rear zone, which blocks GPS if you’re using CarPlay/Android Auto/Nav (I’d assume, I don’t have nav).

    NotMyOldRedditName ,

    Really the only thing on my Tesla I ever need to access on the touchscreen while driving is the climate controls (assuming I don’t want to use voice, which is a pain as it hears you wrong)

    The other used to be fog lights, but I just keep those on now for extra visibility, like another day time running light.

    Everything else including wipers I can do from the wheel now without having to touch the screen.

    I only use voice to choose a new song/artist, I’m not trying to navigate spotify by hand while driving.

    flambonkscious ,

    What in hearing is … Dials are good too?

    xthexder ,
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    Just wait 'til you try this knob!

    flambonkscious ,

    Love a good knob…

    Locrin ,

    Yet the model Y is the world’s most sold car. Maybe it’s not the touch screen that is the problem.

    nowwhatnapster ,

    As a Model 3 owner of 5 years, it’s really a non issue, in my opinion. All the basic controls you need while in motion are on the steering wheel. The touchscreen is responsive and intuitive.

    restingboredface ,

    Not sure where you get that data but according to Statista the top selling car is a Toyota corolla. Tesla model y is on the list but at #4.

    Touchscreens probably aren’t the deciding factor in a purchase but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t a problem for users. People just have to decide what features they are willing to compromise on (assuming they have a choice, and touchscreens increasingly are unavoidable).

    Locrin ,

    Current year of course.

    www.focus2move.com/world-car-market/

    lntl ,

    i like buttons

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