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RobotToaster ,
@RobotToaster@mander.xyz avatar

Tom Paris was right.

hiramfromthechi ,
@hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

A great reminder that your voice does matter. Apply it other things as well, and things can actually improve…

Donjuanme ,

Not all of the buttons. Please be reasonable. Just some of the buttons.

I don’t need memory buttons.

I don’t want to push the button half a dozen times, just to miss the menu I wanted by 1 click, and have to go around again.

I don’t need separate am fm and cd buttons.

I really don’t mind a touch screen for climate control, or audio interface. Just keep the business from moving around the screen at all and I’m pretty happy.

troydowling ,

I was with you up until the climate controls.

Any control you can find in a 1997 Hyundai Accent should be physical.

Anything else can be hidden behind a touchscreen because I’m not going to use it while driving anyway.

My big request would be to drop the USB cable. I don’t know why I need to connect both USB and Bluetooth. I’d love to just leave my cell in my bag where it belongs instead of advertising yet another reason why someone should smash my windows in!

jasondj ,

Yeah climate control is where he lost me. My wife’s Honda odyssey has that.

I’m okay with the soft-buttons for memory, or to toggle input, since they are always in fixed locations. In fact soft-buttons are slightly better because they are labeled with the station….though my 2013 Passat has the better compromise of a physical button with the station printed above it.

But HVAC is where I draw the line. I guess the trade off would be that a thermostatically controlled digital systems are probably more simplistic, in their operation and maintenance, than the vacuum-and-linkage systems of yore, and this gives way to multi-zone climate systems in mass market cars. But I still hate that I have to utilize the touchscreen to change which blowers are on or to change the temperature in the rear zone, which blocks GPS if you’re using CarPlay/Android Auto/Nav (I’d assume, I don’t have nav).

NotMyOldRedditName ,

Really the only thing on my Tesla I ever need to access on the touchscreen while driving is the climate controls (assuming I don’t want to use voice, which is a pain as it hears you wrong)

The other used to be fog lights, but I just keep those on now for extra visibility, like another day time running light.

Everything else including wipers I can do from the wheel now without having to touch the screen.

I only use voice to choose a new song/artist, I’m not trying to navigate spotify by hand while driving.

flambonkscious ,

What in hearing is … Dials are good too?

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

Just wait 'til you try this knob!

flambonkscious ,

Love a good knob…

EmergMemeHologram ,

And I’ll continue complaining about stuff, nothing will stop me, not even getting what I want!

girl , (edited )

as my dad would say, “you’d complain if you’s hung with a new rope”

Aceticon ,

The squeaky wheel gets the greese!

Agent_Engelbert ,

Imagine paying the same price for a car that lacks the technology of:

  • Smart screen
    • With heat resistant materials that are designed to resist high temperatures and still function properly (i.e in summer times)
    • With GPS features, and media access
  • But the screen still sucks because you can literally buy a magnet and stick your phone there, and still be able to do literally everything a smart screen car do.

I mean id still buy it because I prefer cars that are not so impractical, but it’s a shame that it still costs practically the same.

Conceptually, a smart screen sounds like a good idea, but the implementation is bad.

nutsack ,

there should never be a fucking touch screen menu in a car for any reason

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

Maps? Android Auto / CarPlay? Gotta have the screen anyway for the mandatory backup camera.

We can have both! Physical buttons for everything that doesn’t actually benefit from having a display, (like music or heat/ac), touch screen for the rest.

Threeme2189 ,

Just like my 2019 Hyundai Ioniq. Buttons for the car stuff and a touchscreen for media, calls, navigation, backup camera, etc. If the touchscreen were to shit the bed I’d still have a fully functional car minus the backup camera.

kool_newt ,

A big part of why I chose my Mazda is so I didn’t have touchscreen everything.

JackbyDev ,

and to add insult to injury, I couldn’t turn the heater on countless times because the climate portion of the OS was unresponsive. Other times, it would simply say that the function couldn’t be performed at the time. Why? No idea.

This is the main problem, not something about the UI being wonky. That my AC can freeze not because of the radiator but because of a shitty UI system? That’s insane.

jayandp ,

Reason why I love my Subaru is that it still has buttons for almost everything, yet still has Android Auto.

time_fo_that ,

Not the new ones. They’re all touch screen and it’s soooo slow to start up and do anything, including HVAC and heated seats. My friend’s new Outback has it and it’s not good.

GeminiFrenchFry ,

I have a '22 Crosstrek and most options are buttons with a large screen I use with Android Auto. I would hate HVAC and heated seats integrates into the screen because I love mine being buttons, switches, and dials. Plus, I can control most of the screen features from my steering wheel.

Pavidus ,

This is why I chose Mazda. No touch screen at all, just a display for Android auto.

KpntAutismus ,

my 1st gen yaris has a space for a 1din radio, but there’s a 3rd party frame that lets you get rid of the casette player (you read that right) and allows for a 2din radio.

buy one of those pioneer radios, throw some blaupunkt widebands in there, and i have a top of the line entertainment system.

i want to drive that car forever…

GutsBerserk ,

I wonder if people who took the decision to put the touchscreens even drive.

bufalo1973 ,
@bufalo1973@lemmy.ml avatar

I’d rather have a “non-touch” screen with buttons in a car. Just to show info. And be it right in front of me.

TheEighthDoctor , (edited )

Unpopular opinion: Unresponsive buttons are just as bad as unresponsive touchscreens. And touchscreens are not bad if you don’t have 5 keys presses to get what you want, if you can customise your layout and if the system is not underpowered as they always seem to be.

bort ,

haptics of a button means that you can keep your focus on the street while pressing a button.

ExLisper ,

Don’t know what buttons or touch screens you have in your care but in my car it’s way easier to hit the button than the exact location on the touch screen. You can ‘feel’ your way to a button on a dashboard, you can’t do it on a touch screen.

fubarx ,

The telematics on EV VWs was designed by someone who lost a bet.

PrincessLeiasCat ,

Thank god. End this shitty touchscreen fad. I have problems reading things too close, so the buttons/knobs in my 10+ year old car are a lifesaver.

rauls4 ,

Main reason I canceled my ID4 reservation

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