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gogogadgetfork ,

VW has made a lot of bad decisions

JackbyDev ,

and to add insult to injury, I couldn’t turn the heater on countless times because the climate portion of the OS was unresponsive. Other times, it would simply say that the function couldn’t be performed at the time. Why? No idea.

This is the main problem, not something about the UI being wonky. That my AC can freeze not because of the radiator but because of a shitty UI system? That’s insane.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Real buttons in a car are good because you don’t have to fucking look at them to know what you’re doing, unlike a god damn touch screen, so your eyes can remain on the road.

AlexWIWA , (edited )

Infiniti not updating their interior since 2014 is starting to feel like a good thing as other brands abandon buttons.

Nice to know VW is returning to sanity

netburnr ,
@netburnr@lemmy.world avatar

Everyone else is going to start putting analog clocks in the dash again.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

God I fucking need that. One of my cars didn’t use a big enough variable to hold the GPS time adjustment. So it’s off by an hour randomly about 9 months out of the year. My other car is just old enough that they don’t have an update for the radio to fix the time since the last time they moved daylight savings around.

AlexWIWA ,

The analog clock is really nice, not gonna lie

AlexWIWA ,

God I miss the analog clock in my Q. The G feels so much fancier

nafri ,
@nafri@lemmy.world avatar

Progression is regression in this issue, thanks people!

EmergMemeHologram ,

And I’ll continue complaining about stuff, nothing will stop me, not even getting what I want!

girl , (edited )

as my dad would say, “you’d complain if you’s hung with a new rope”

Aceticon ,

The squeaky wheel gets the greese!

MrFunnyMoustache ,

I’m very glad, the lack of buttons are a safety hazard… Looking at these stupid TESLA cars especially… You can’t even adjust the AC without messing with the touchscreen, which means your eyes are not on the road…

Still not going to own a car, but at least it will be slightly safer by bringing back physical buttons, so hurray for small victories.

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

For a while now I’ve been thinking about idea where flexible display can be combined with some sort of mechanism where a button on the display can be shown and underneath display in same place it would raise the display slightly. Just enough to be tactile and easy to find without looking. We might see these at some point as stars seem to be aligning that way.

Th0rgue ,

They’ve been working on that for a while now. It looks like those stars are not aligning anytime soon.

howtogeek.com/…/when-will-we-get-tactile-touch-sc…

tomshardware.com/…/feedback-tactile-heptic-touch-…

MeanEYE ,
@MeanEYE@lemmy.world avatar

Cool. I mean it’s obvious that’s going to happen at some point.

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

I own two cars. The newest is a 2013 because it’s before touchscreens became standard equipment. I’m gonna limp those bitches along until either I die or that trend reverses.

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

Actually, I am wondering if these dumb things can be replaced with aftermarket stuff. I kinda have my doubts. I miss when you could just pull the stereo out yourself and slide a new one into the bay like a disc drive on a PC.

Joelk111 , (edited )

limp those bitches along

I hope you don’t have to limp them along. My newest vehicle is from 2007, and my oldest from '84. They aren’t limping, they run and drive quite well.

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Well one runs like a top. The other I need to replace the suspension on but the engine is sound.

Locrin ,

You have buttons on the wheel and voice commands. But it must be nice to stay in your little ignorant bubble so I will leave you be now.

little_hermit ,

I said the same to a Tesla owner who informed me buttons on the steering wheel provide all these functionalities. But upvoters don’t own a Tesla.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

Not all functionalities. You can’t even adjust the direction/power of the AC or open the glovebox without multiple presses on the touchscreen.

little_hermit ,

There’s no physical button to open the glovebox? Better not keep anything critical in there in case of a software failure.

MrFunnyMoustache ,

Either software or hardware failure of the big infotainment system can suck really badly, and TESLA is also an anti-repair company too…

d3lta19 ,

Now only if I could complain enough that my recall on my Atlas gets the passanger air bag fixed. Got told in April that nobody can ride in the passenger seat because the air bag might not deploy. Still no ETA on when a fix will be available. What a BS company.

VieuxQueb ,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

I gotna letter from Toyota that says I will get another letter later because the car might be dangerous for my health and safety without saying what it is and now I have to drive my car not knowing what could happen.

It’s been more than a month and I still don’t have any other letter with information and/or resolution.

Thanks Toyota, I already am a very anxious person and now I have to rrive everyday with the knowledge my car has something dangerous to it but don’t know what.

kashara ,

Why have you said that VW is Putin?

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

That’s a bad joke

havokdj ,

Your mom is a bad joke

elscallr ,
@elscallr@lemmy.world avatar

Well she’s at least as clever as that, so suppose you guys got a little in common.

Gerula ,

This is actually very good news for car manufacturers.

Touch crap was cheaper but sold a new tech so => price increase

Buttons are old tech so no new investments or tech development but they are more complicated => price increase

MonkeMischief ,

Thank you! I’ve been making this argument a LOT with recent discussions on kids not understanding keyboards and controllers because their lives are full of touchscreens.

Touch isn’t “the future”. It just absolutely flooded the market.

NikkiDimes ,

You think they don’t just charge more because they can, like every other industry lately?

Gerula ,

They 100% do! But the marketing departments always likes to have “solid” arguments at hand.

How else can they organise fairs and conferences where they can lament about how poor the automakers are and how pressure from are pulling prices down so automakers cannot compete… how they have to fire people and move production in poorer countries where people can be treated more like slaves… how profits are so low that they have to use the same jets with the same bitches twice!

hiramfromthechi ,
@hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world avatar

A great reminder that your voice does matter. Apply it other things as well, and things can actually improve…

noname_yet2077 ,
@noname_yet2077@lemmy.world avatar

Good news

trackindakraken ,

I’m hoping by the time I need a new car, this insanity will have passed, allowing me to skip it. It’s like everyone skipped Windows Vista.

lando55 ,

By that time they will start selling monthly subscriptions to use the buttons or they will revert to a regular touchscreen

Dickarus ,
@Dickarus@lemmy.world avatar

I like how you can get a ticket for using your phone while driving, so automakers decided to replace your tactile radio, where you don’t need to look at it to operate, with what is basically a giant touchscreen phone in your car where you need to look at it to see what you’re doing instead of feeling what you’re doing.

Woht24 ,

And it’s legal!

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

Yep it should just be illegal plain and simple. Maybe some screens that are mainly intended for passive display that you can still use with touch, but all main functions one would need to use while operating the vehicle should be buttons and dials.

TeckFire ,

Many states have laws prohibiting the use of anything that isn’t hands free, including integrated media controls. Won’t stop anyone, but just because it’s illegal doesn’t mean people won’t do it. Same as speeding, or eating/drinking while driving in many states.

Suavevillain ,
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

I might be the one of the weirdos that want buttons back on phones as well lol. 💀 I loved keyboards.

baltakatei ,

Keyboards were so nice when you wanted to accurately input characters without putting your faith in auto-correct. God help you if you need to input something not in its dictionary like someone’s name.

MonkeMischief ,

My biggest annoyance with Gboard is that my muscle memory is so tuned with it and it has GIF search built in…but it keeps wanting to correct random words to whichever is closer: celebrity name or a brand name or something. -_-

jaschen ,

I was also a Blackberry baby. But I can type faster now with Swype + autocorrect compared to buttons. I do, however, want my camera shutter button back.

Pazuzu ,

Idk about other phones, but at least on my pixel the volume down button is also a shutter button. And double pressing the lock screen button opens the camera

jaschen ,

I really miss the 1/2 click to focus. I think Sony is the only phone that has this. :(

Centaur ,

Here you go: www.unihertz.com

EDIT: Typo

MonkeMischief ,

Wait, an actually unique smartphone manufacturer and they’re not impossibly expensive and aren’t locked in to Europe?

How did this happen without me noticing? Cool!! Nice share! Now I want them to put daily drivable Linux on it and I’m insta-sold!

(So far I merely put up with the duopoly of mobile OSs. I don’t enjoy them lol)

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