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Everyone be using the eggplant emoji as a penis euphemism, I have two thoughts on this ...

  1. over time this might affect our collective consciousness in regards to the purpose & function of the eggplant; and
  2. can we please just get a straightforward penis emoji already?? Half the human population has a penis attached to their bodies anyway, why are we still so prude about incorporating actual penises into mainstream vernacular & daily life?

addendum:

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/cbfd3592-a3c9-4c26-935b-d64989de45c8.jpeg

fubo ,

Here’s an oddity … people use 🍆 “eggplant” for penis, and 🍑 “peach” for butt, but there doesn’t seem to be a general consensus on which emoji to use for vulva. Some options include:

(Really there are plenty of other options for penis as well, such as 🌽 “ear of corn” or 🕹 “joystick”, but folks seem to have settled on the eggplant.)

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

I use the peach emoji to indicate pussy, and/or implied as any fleshy hole a man would want to penetrate.

ji17br ,

I concur 🍑😉

abbadon420 ,

Won’t you look at that, a winking asshole.

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

; *

Drusas ,

That's what it meant back in the 90s. I was initially confused when people started using the emoji to mean butt.

fubo , (edited )

The peach emoji was added in Unicode 6.0 … which came out in 2010. How were you using it in the 1990s?

Drusas ,

I'm not talking about emoji. I'm talking about, well, talk. Words.

Willy ,

and songs!

Drusas ,

If I had my little way

Agent641 ,

Peachussy

Zahille7 ,

I’ve seen plenty of people online use cat emojis for vagina.

frostysauce ,

I’m old enough to remember when a peach was a vagina.

TheRedSpade ,

Odd that they should represent either as peaches tend to be much less palatable.

feedum_sneedson ,

You know, I can eat a peach for hours.

xigoi ,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’ve always thought the peach was for that.

Siegfried ,

I think it was originally for that but thots started associating it with their butt

Siegfried ,

Dame mas de tu limón 🍋

ludw ,

You could use the Phallus hieroglyph: 𓂸

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

Ooh yes, How do you find that out in the wild? or is it something I should keep in my repository to copy and paste

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Wikipedia has lists of unicode characters under articles about those unicode blocks, you can see the unicode blocks and future proposals here

ludw ,

I learned about it here on Lemmy, when needed I just google it

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Very conspicuously absent on my Windows computer

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/4641dda9-f24f-4a58-8c74-2dfcd685dd14.png

Zoomboingding ,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/b3e75d87-bdbb-479d-904a-c2535b50a659.png

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

Eggplants come from eggplant sperm. Got it.

Drivebyhaiku ,

There’s actually kind of a funny history behind the Eggplant emoji. Emoji are Japanese in origin and around the time they were taking off there was this Survivor like gameshow where one guy was confined to his apartment and he had to try and survive past the basics by applying for and winning sweepstakes items from various promotions from newspapers and magazines.

The participant’s shortened form name was Nasu - which means “eggplant” so since the guy started the challenge with literally nothing including clothes they put a little Eggplant over his junk in post. That became a Japanese cultural meme that translated over once emoji became more widely adopted.

You probably won’t see actual dick emoji in the actual set because emoji are an all ages access thing and exist on an international level. It’s actually kind of funny how different cultures use the same finite set. Like in China how the angel emoji is construed as “I’m going to end you”. One could see the things as becoming essentially a hieroglyphic set where they gain their own full individual linguistic meanings.

pennomi ,

emoji are an all ages access thing

Last time I checked, penises are an all ages thing too. But who knows, I’m no urologist.

Drivebyhaiku ,

They are an all ages thing for some… But remember when I said international? I don’t particularly like puritanical prudishness but the conservative held belief as those things being inappropriate for all points of society is also pretty common.

I doubt those who keep the emoji want any hassle of the conservative European diaspora middle East, the Americas, facets of Africa and China getting their knickers in a twist.

In the world of stockholder retaliation some things people count as just above their pay grade.

emptyother ,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

They could include it. Give it a spot. But blank. And then it would be up to each OS if they want to include the icon on their device. That way we could at least let those less prudish nations and companies start with a common code point.

Like flags for example. They got codepoints, but Microsoft has decided to not take sides and have ignored country’s flags.

kevincox ,
@kevincox@lemmy.ml avatar

The problem with leaving it blank is that it harms communication if the other party doesn’t have that symbol. You may send it because it exists in your country but then they have no idea what you mean.

Maybe having a “tofu” missing character box is ok, but even then if a substantial amount of the world’s population isn’t going to have this character it maybe be best to leave it out.

That being said, I am still in favour.

running_ragged ,

Are there not already words to represent the same thing to anyone old enough to read a message? A different representation of something they are already potentially exposed to isn’t something that technology standards should be censoring.

Especially when the defacto replacement for this is a symbol of something that could very easily give young men a serious sense of inadequacy and insecurity.

edit: (you -> young)

Drivebyhaiku ,

I would countee that wouldn’t any single depiction of a penis set an unreasonable standard? Color, size, circumsized vs not etc? At least with a euphemism it is fairly abstract. I don’t think anyone looks at an eggplant as a goal.

xigoi ,
@xigoi@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There is already skin tone support for emoji. Size is not a problem because there is nothing to compare it to. Circumsized could be a separate emoji.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

U realise the unicode consortium only makes standards and describes the meaning the actuall image used is not up to them for instance a this🇹🇼 emoji wont show on most chinese devices if a country doesnt like a dick emoji then they can ban it.

Drivebyhaiku ,

Nope, did not realize… But tell me that even my nice progressive Canada wouldn’t have hordes of parents flipping the fuck out about little kids being exposed to cartoon porn and I wouldn’t believe you.

To be clear it’s not like I think there’s any moral issue with an emoji set of genitals. I just don’t think anybody wants to court that much bother for something already served by a cultural understanding about the eggplant emoji that already exists. In a vaccum of sex and penis innuendos an innuendo will always emerge. Even when we have the option to be explicit sometimes we opt for innuendo. I just don’t see there being a lot of value particularly in a cartoon penis. Like okay, you have a cartoon penis, there’s a moral outcry. Conservatives get mad and in the end… what exactly has been improved really?

The juice just doesn’t seem worth the squeeze.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

I live to piss of all extremists and the extreme conservatives are right up there with the most entertaining to annoy. And hey there would be some dam fine jokes about the countries that ban it.

Drivebyhaiku ,

Yeah I don’t think upsetting those people who are fence sitting into opinions that make them more likely to further solidify their support for conservatives is worth it for cartoon penises personally.

They are hard enough to try and reach for serious mind changing heart to hearts without them feeling like the world is falling to general moral bankruptcy.

muntedcrocodile ,
@muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world avatar

Ohh the world fell to general moral bankruptcy long ago.

key ,

Is that the show where the contestant came out about how horribly abusive the production was? Like he was tricked/coerced into doing it and basically imprisoned the whole time?

Drivebyhaiku ,

Oh yeah… It was horrible. Dude was traumatized.

Agent641 , (edited )

What the fuck that sounds amazing and horrible!

Drivebyhaiku ,

Yeah the ethics of Japanese game shows and reality tv more generally particularly in the 1990’s is a fraught topic. Some of them were quite cruel.

zout ,

Damn, after reading the first paragraph I really tought this was going to include masturbation by insertion of an eggplant. Now I'm a little disappointed to be honest.

Drivebyhaiku ,

I suppose there are worse things to insert but an eggplant, particularly the type being depicted in the emoji doesn’t seem like a particularly prime candidate. Seems like a good way to end up in hospital looking for a manual extraction.

zout ,

A person I know used to work as a nurse in an operating room, stuff like this happens more often than you'd think. I haven't heard an eggplant mentioned by them though.

Michal ,

It’s up to the app/os how emoji are rendered. You can hack your os to display whatever you want instead of 🍆 , or add support for 👨🍆 with zero width space between, but it’s less likely to be used.

thevoidzero ,

It’s not even at OS level (unless you’re thinking fonts are OS level). So basically you’d just need to define a font, with certain unicodes with images you want, and make sure it ranks higher than other fonts. So the application will search for any characters in that font, and then for those you didn’t define, it’ll search in other fonts.

squiblet ,
@squiblet@kbin.social avatar

What I don't get is that a dick the size or shape of an eggplant would just not work, for anything.

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

Good point. I’ve also had that subconscious thought. I’m going to add that as my point number 3.

kbal ,
@kbal@kbin.melroy.org avatar

The colour is a little unusual as well.

GamingChairModel ,

There are lots of dick-shaped, dick-sized eggplants. Chinese eggplants and Japanese eggplants are pretty phallic, similar to cucumbers or zucchini in size/shape.

tigeruppercut ,

Japanese ones are a lot thinner.

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/4a8263de-0d92-424f-b52f-46cd120aaac5.webp

Carrots on the other hand are the opposite, being much thicker than the ones in the US

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/e45525db-e373-4933-bdb9-64bcd4a10f65.webp

RattlerSix ,

Adults shouldn’t be using emojis, and that’s a hill I’m willing to die on

LemmyKnowsBest OP , (edited )

My 42-year-old boyfriend felt the same way, until one day I made a verbal observation to him that when men include a :-) in a text to a woman, it means he wants to fuck her.

He said, “Yes that’s probably true.”

Over the next couple years he, by now my ex, started using colorful emojis all over the place in desperate Facebook flirting attempts,

because he apparently came to the conclusion that emojis must be chick magnets somehow.

But no, it just made him look like a ___________ (fill in your own adjectives, they’re probably correct).

RattlerSix ,

That’s funny :-)

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

Ayo shoot your shot 🍑🍆

Cracks_InTheWalls ,
@Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works avatar

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/2b3589ee-cfa8-43b9-bb53-cf1394187aee.jpeg

emptyother ,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

If so, I’ll gladly call myself a kid again just to be allowed to use emojis. 😁

Nachorella ,

I love emojis even though I don’t use them much. I just think it’s really cool that this idea emerged and everyone got on board and now it’s almost like a whole universal language - modern hieroglyphics or whatever else you want to call it. Plus they’re just kinda fun and sometimes it’s easier to convey a reaction with a specific smiley than it is with words. Language, however beautiful and elegant, is still sometimes wanting, you know?

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

𓃻𓆓𓏲𓆓𓃾 𓌓𓏴𓊽𓂝𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓉐𓂝𓇯 𓃻𓃾𓆓𓏲𓆓. 𓌙𓁶𓌙 𓀠𓂧 𓉗𓇯 𓌅𓃾 𓂋𓃾𓌓 𓇯𓉐𓂝𓃻𓃾 𓂝𓆓 𓈖𓏲𓏴𓉐𓃾 𓌙𓏲 𓉐𓂝𓏴 𓃾𓊽

TwilightVulpine ,

Then perish. 😈🔪

frostysauce ,

🙄

Siegfried ,

🤡

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I vote for having penis, balls, butt, labia and titty emojis.

some_designer_dude ,

Where does it end? Anuses (anii?), dildos, ball-gags, pierced v. unpierced, big boobs, small boobs, all in each skin tone…

The eggplant is fine. Maybe a sausage or hotdog would be better in the long run and easier to implement.

Carnelian ,

Unironically all great suggestions

Kolanaki ,
@Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

I mean they have a system where you can long press one and get different versions of it, so you could fit a bunch of them together like piercings or grouping dildos with dicks. Because we also need the various skin tones and styles so everyone feels included.

some_designer_dude ,

Big dicks, small dicks… Long-press for various skin tones and degrees of erectness.

stelelor ,

The longer you press, the longer it gets?

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

Where does it end?

It never ends. We want it ALL!

rar ,

I always thought incorporating a drawing into legit character encoding is not a good idea.

emptyother ,
@emptyother@programming.dev avatar

We got space. Its not like a new language with unique character sets are just gonna pop up any day now. Maybe if we found intelligent aliens.

AdrianTheFrog ,
@AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world avatar

Unicode has ~150k characters, many of which are not supported by any fonts on most people’s computers. They still have space in the encoding system for another 900k. They have the space.

For comparison, the Basic Multilingual Plane in Unicode (the most “useful” part with most modern languages) only contains 65k characters and ASCII only contains 128 characters.

key ,

Just last week I meant to make eggplant parm but got mixed up and next thing you know I was deep throating that sucker. Dinner was ruined.

Feel free to submit a request to the Unicode Consortium in April when they open up again but given vulva/vagina was previously declined I doubt they’ll accept penis www.unicode.org/emoji/emoji-requests.html

LemmyKnowsBest OP ,

meant to make eggplant parm but got mixed up and next thing you know I was deep throating that sucker. Dinner was ruined.

Yes you see what I mean! Perfectly understandable mix-up, it’s bound to happen to all of us eventually.

KingJalopy ,

I literally used my penis instead of eggplant. Thanks Internet. Now I have a detachable penis.

betterdeadthanreddit ,

This makes sense if your jalopy is a missile.

clearleaf ,

But now you can leave it at home when you think it’s going to get you in trouble.

KingJalopy ,

Or I can rent it out, when I don’t need it.

Potatisen ,

For nr 2, in America, where most of this stuff comes from, it’s super taboo with sex and anatomy. Violence, theft and other things are ok tho… 🍆

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

Specifically the Unicode Consortium is the body that adopts new emoji. It is incorporated out of California.

LemmyKnowsBest OP , (edited )

yeah I remember reading how some guy came up with an idea for an emoji and the long process leading up to being invited to Silicon Valley to present his idea at this consortium and his delight after jumping through all the hoops for his emoji idea to be finally accepted

rar ,

Seeing how the gun emoji was rebranded into a water gun, I won’t be surprised if same process is attempted anywhere in the world.

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