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why isn't anyone calling for Trump to drop out.

I get it, Biden is old and that’s a problem, but why doesn’t anyone seem to have a problem with the fact that Trump is almost the same age, has 34 felonies, raped at least 2 women, went to Epstein’s Island 11 times, sexualized his own daughter, stole classified documents, aligned himself with Xi and Putin, and can’t remember common names?

Is all of that really better than being 2½ years older than he is right now?

DudeImMacGyver ,
@DudeImMacGyver@sh.itjust.works avatar

I’d be thrilled if they both dropped out.

Red_October ,

Most of the people who think Trump should drop out have been loudly opposing him for a long time. There isn’t just one single thing they object to, no great unifying theme they can point at and say “This is why he should not run,” because Everything about him is a reason why he should absolutely not be president. Even his Felony conviction is, while perhaps more than a drop, just a splash in the bucket of what should be utterly career ending circumstances.

The people who still support Trump don’t care about any of that. They’re not going to suddenly see one particular turn-off and decide that’s it, that’s why Trump should back out. They’re committed, in too deep, they can’t back down now because it would mean the Libs were actually right all along, and that presents, to them, an existential threat. And in the end, it’s the Republican way.

When Democrats, even popular ones, fuck up, other Democrats are much more likely to turn on them, to call for and get resignations. With Republicans, that’s almost unheard of. Republicans take Part Unity to an extreme, circling the wagons and assuming a full defensive position no matter how incredibly abhorrent the crime, no matter how blatant the evidence. Today we’re seeing the perfect example. Biden fucked up a debate, stumbling over his own words like an old man well past his prime, and the party is calling for him to step down. Trump has built his whole political career on stumbling over his own words, with the only cogent statements he manages being blatant lies, and his people would rather murder their neighbors than see him lose.

Psycoder , (edited )

As much as I agree with everything you say, there is one more thing that needs to be said.

I started watching the debate fully aware of the fact that Trump was a POS. Trump was a POS in 2016, 2020, and 2024. On the other hand, I started watching the debate hoping to see president Biden could make Trump look even dumber. What I got was a very clearly senile guy that failed to make coherent sentences 10+ times in a 90 minute debate.

Trump was who he has always been during the debate. Biden was senile during the debate. At this point I’m not asking Biden to drop because I like Trump. That is wrong. I hate Trump. I’m asking Biden to drop because I know he won’t be able to beat Trump. On the other hand, he might have no problem beating medicare.

InternetUser2012 ,

I love when trolls post bullshit like this, it just fires up the democratic voters. Biden will win with more votes than the last time he beat that 34 time convicted felon, rapist, loser.

prunerye ,

Anyone who disagrees with you isn’t a troll. Biden looked how he looked, and moderates/independents don’t have the same appetite for copium as you do.

InternetUser2012 ,

Sounds like something a troll would say. Your post history is also matching what a troll/bot is. I agree 100% that just because someone disagrees with me they aren’t necessarily a bot, BUT, there’s a fuckton of bots/trolls out there now to do what they did in 2016.

Psycoder ,

Ok, go ahead with Biden. I decided to take a break from politics. I’ll be sitting out this election.

Enjoy.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/2d80f74f-ccc7-4ed6-9f21-f17ea7ba609c.jpeg

Psycoder ,

You are absolutely right. I’m a Russian bot.

Lightor ,

I mean, if anything your lending more credibility to Trump if Biden stays in, kinda playing the “both sides” game. Especially saying things like “I know he won’t be about to beat Trump”, basically telling people it’s pointless to vote for Biden.

EldritchFeminity ,

Interesting way of saying “my human rights aren’t up for debate every 4 years.”

InternetUser2012 ,

Lol, your account is six days old, nothing but troll posts. Bro, if you’re not a bot, you’re clearly not American, so you can just stfu K? Ty, go slob that putin knob boy.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Oh look another super new account posting doom and gloom anti biden stuff. So weird.

InternetUser2012 ,

On anything political, it’s about as bad as reddit. Possibly worse, I haven’t been on reddit for almost a year.

Psycoder ,

Ok, go ahead with Biden. I decided to take a break from politics. I’ll be sitting out this election.

Enjoy.

KillerTofu ,

Thanks for enabling the facism!

vividspecter ,

Republican candidates aren’t held to the same standards because Republican voters don’t care (or they actually like it).

Andromxda ,
@Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Republican candidates aren’t held to the same standards because Republican voters are absolute morons

Alteon ,

He gave them $1,600 in stimulus checks. Some of the poorer people think he’ll make things more affordable for people, lower costs, make crypto better, and essentially just rain down money. They have to think of their families future, and apparently they think Trump will do that. They don’t care what he’s done, he’s a means to an end, and if they can wrap an American flag around him, profess him the new Messiah, and ban abortions to do it, they will.

Republicans are either extremely ignorant or they just lack any and all empathy. They get their news from Fox that shields them from the truth, and they live in constant fear of blood-drinking evil liberals, illegal racist/murderer aliens, and that their money is being stolen from them by undesirables that feed off the system.

Their entire world view is a facade to make rich people richer and their ignorance of that makes them expendable pawns. It’d be comical if it wasn’t so tragic…

StaySquared ,

It’s not age. It’s competency. There’s 100 year olds that are more competent than Biden. I’m not calling Biden stupid. I’m saying like the rest of the fkin world has been saying for the past few years, Biden’s mind is degrading.

UnderpantsWeevil , (edited )
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

He’s not competent enough to run a campaign that defeats Donald Trump.

And I was told that “Beat Donald Trump” is the most important thing in the world. But now, I guess, it isn’t? It’s just about appeasing the ego of a senile old coot and his weird family.

Serinus ,

Meanwhile Trump’s syphilis riddled mind is sharp as a tack?

The dude literally wears diapers.

StaySquared ,

Helluvalot sharper than Biden from what the world witnessed in that recent debate lol

Even his wife treats him like a fkin child, “ooooh muuuuh gaaawd, I am sooo proud of youuuuu!! You answered all the questions!!!”

Literally wears diapers, eh? At least the entire world isn’t accusing him of literally chitting his pants.

LMAO, seriously, I couldn’t give a fk less about Trump, I only like him because during his reign, the economy was popping, people were thriving, businesses were booming… chit was glorious especially for those of us trying to get ourselves into home ownership. If another Democrat runs this country for another 4 years, we’re ending up in WWIII and isolated from the rest of the world except the NATO alliance, if they don’t turn their backs on us too.

PsychedSy ,

You’re allowed to swear on lemmy.

spirinolas ,

It’s easy not to mumble and stutter when all you’re doing is repeating the same rehearsed diatribe against immigrants, no matter the question. A speaking toddler could do that.

StaySquared ,

Immigrants? I didn’t even mentioned immigrants in my previous comment. wat.

spirinolas ,

Are you Donald Trump? Learn how to read.

XeroxCool ,

That “booming” economy is a straight line on any chart from 2010 to 2019. GDP, unemployment, debt, income, whatever you want to check. Funny you think democrats are why things tank. Do you associate the 2008 financial crisis with Obama? Because that nosedive, which landed lower in 2009 than we hit in 2020, has a clear nosedive starting in 2004. Please don’t tell me you think the astonishingly-low gas prices in 2020 were Trump’s doing, either. People literally stopped driving altogether and oil companies couldn’t offload ships since demand was so low. I’m not really sure who you’re concerned about regarding WW3 that you think would be a powerful player that isn’t in NATO and isn’t already against the US. But really, it’s impressive to think Trump’s tenure was such a safe haven of global peace when Russia, one of 2 likely opponents, was thrilled with Trump because he was friendly to them. That’s not peacekeeping or carrying a big stick, that’s Putin making the marionette dance.

I implore you to check out a few additional “news” sources and actual analyst sources. If your news sources get emotional, that’s not news. If your analyst sources cite high school polls, that’s not analysis. If your source of stats is unverified text-over-pictures or commentary social media videos, God help us all.

ILikeBoobies ,

People do, you call them Biden supporters and dismiss them because “they wouldn’t vote for Trump anyway”

Or you say Trump is the reincarnation of Jesus and it’s all lies created by the devil

crusa187 ,

Trump’s the perfect figurehead for MAGA, why should he drop out?

Asafum ,

I’m honestly pretty damn mad these people got perfect representation and we get stuck with neolibs who think “yeah yeah 40 years of the same hasn’t helped, but this time it will work!”

jorp ,

It’s because Democrats are not “we.” Both parties serve corporate interests.

ZILtoid1991 ,

One party has principles, arguably too much in some sense.

The other either just voting for them because they love tradition so much they need to vote someone conservative, just want less taxes, or outright just evil and want to see the suffering of their fellow human beings if those happen to belong to the wrong group.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

The principle of Genocide!

Oops moral high-ground gone again.

HerrBeter ,

Didn’t trump say he’d support israel completely?

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Didn’t Biden say he supports israel unconditionally?

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

You always seem to avoid answering that question about Trump. You know he will be worse for Gaza yet you still seem to want to get him elected. Your real intentions are obvious; you don’t actually care about genocide.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Oops my bad your argument got fully dismantled and it’s proven Democrats don’t care about Genocide whatsoever.

Time for whataboutism!

Your real intentions are obvious; you don’t actually care about genocide.

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

What I care about isn’t the topic of discussion right now; you’re just trying to change the subject and avoiding the question.

Why are you pretending to care about genocide while actively campaigning for Trump? You know he admitted he would genocide harder and faster than Biden.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Only one of us is actively campaigning for genocide and it’s not me.

Soulg ,

Yes it is lol

ZILtoid1991 ,

If Biden didn’t support Israel, he would have been smeared as an antisemite.

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

If Biden banned AIPAC (which he wont because he’s their primary recipient), he would not have been smeared as an antisemite.

DeanFogg ,

Netanyahu is the guy you should be asking about genocide

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

He said Biden loves giving him weapons to commit Genocide with.

ArcaneSlime ,

Are you only counting insular social media bubbles like this one and/or media like CNN which takes that to be the default position and therefore doesn’t repeat it ad nauseum, or do you mean you’ve been scoping out trumpsocial where you’d be more likely to see conservatives talking amongst themselves and so you’d be more likely to see that type of infighting? Cause maybe that’s why.

GiddyGap ,

Trump controls a cult, that’s why.

Cult leaders can get their followers to do anything and the followers will forgive the leader for anything, including felonies. They will dismiss any criticism of the leader as lies or made up to hurt the leader politically. No matter how true the criticism might be.

At the end of the day, it’s very much like the relationship between religious worshippers and their god.

Grass ,

even in the bible god is a straight up asshole and people still blindly worship

Lucidlethargy ,

Because conservatives are cowards. It’s that simple. They are afraid of those who may challenge them.

Cosmicomical ,

People that want to stay free must learn to vote for the most viable candidate, whether they like them or not. Republicans know the left actually value proper behaviour and consistency from their candidates, so the left is vulnerable to this kind of attack. The republicans don’t care what you say about their candidate, they just want to win. But especially they want you to lose.

bane_killgrind ,

Conservatives need other people to lose, because if other people lose it feels like they are winning.

It’s why they call they cops on people for no reason. It’s why gender neutral bathrooms are bad. It’s why contraception is bad. It’s why healthcare and other social safety nets are bad.

If other people don’t lose, they don’t win. Zero sum thinking means they need you to lose.

DeanFogg ,

They sound like losers

JasonDJ , (edited )

Because we know he won’t. He knows he’s unwelcome by the majority of the people. That just makes his worshippers praise him even more.

What do you expect…Democrats ask him to step down because he’s a convicted felon? He’s gonna listen?

Republicans to have him step down…why? Because he said lies(that they believe) and sounded good saying them?

Biden we at least know is receptive. And he’s got an amazing career behind him. Losing the presidency, as an incumbent, to Trump (the incumbent he just barely defeated four years ago when he exuded much more confidence when he spoke against him) would be a terrible way to end it.

There’s nothing in the world more powerful than a good story.

yournamehere ,

because 50% of americans are facists?

Professorozone ,

Correction, 50% of VOTING Americans are fascist. It’s the only thing that keeps me going.

englislanguage ,

Correction, 50% of VOTING Americans are VOTING fascist. Doesn’t necessarily mean they are fascist themselves.

akakunai ,

“We are not Nazis, we just vote for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.”

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe America just has a lot of acceleraionists.

Lost_My_Mind ,

I call for him to drop out…of a boeing.

Mouselemming ,

Might be more effective to make him stay in it, all the way down

DebatableRaccoon ,

We should try both… For science.

14th_cylon ,

you mean to start the experiment by cutting him in half? i am in 😆

DebatableRaccoon ,

In the name of scientific accuracy, absolutely. Can’t go having inconclusive results, can we? Now I know one might be inclined to split him top and bottom but I posit we do left and right.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

I have access to a cleaning/cutting/welding laser. I would like to do the vertical cut… that too is for science…

DebatableRaccoon ,

It’s not science unless you’re using fancy equipment during the practical experiment!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Have you seen the cost of those things? (Or what they do to rust?)

DebatableRaccoon ,

The cost, no. What they do to rust, yes. What they do to flesh… that’s part of the experiment.

14th_cylon ,

Now I know one might be inclined to split him top and bottom but I posit we do left and right.

so how about a compromise and splitting him in 8 parts along all three axes?

DebatableRaccoon ,

More opportunity for experimentation, I like it!

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

his jet is a boeing.

Maybe they have a door plug by his desk?

psycho_driver ,

The American people called for him to dropout in 2020. He didn’t listen.

statist43 ,

I didnt hear this. Maybe because I was too far away in europe, but it didnt seem, that the US had enough of this pussygrabber

FattestMattest ,

More than half of us have had enough. I’m not sure what’s wrong about the others…

Yearly1845 ,

He lost the election. Twice, actually. He’s never won the popular vote. He was only the president because of a broken system.

statist43 ,

It just doesn’t really sound like "people called him to drop out, if almoat 50% of a country vote directly for him

irreticent ,
@irreticent@lemmy.world avatar

Correction: 33% of the eligible voters.

66% of eligible voters voted in the 2020 election. Almost half of those voted for Trump. That’s 33% of eligible American voters.

Also, not all Americans are eligible to vote: felons in certain States, non-registered adults, children, etc.

I may just be being pedantic but it annoys me when I see people claim that half of America supports Trump/fascism when it’s just not true. The number is probably closer to 28% of Americans.

statist43 ,

Yeah thats right, I didnt know the hard numbers thats on me.

But you need to really overthink you government system over there, because the guy 30% of you want destroys alot more than the trust in the US system.

PythagreousTitties ,

Cool story.

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