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rkelol0903 ,

the DNC just threw the election… wow. billionaires really do control our country.

rekabis ,

As much as I think that he was too old for the position… JFC. If the Dems don’t nominate Kamala Harris as his replacement, the entire Democratic nomination will be filled with so much infighting that they will lose the faith of their electorate and the next election.

If only more Dems were left-of-centre such that Bernie was a viable option. Unfortunately almost all of them are right-lite.

Flax_vert ,

It’s

Joever

superminerJG ,

it is quite literally Joever

MeatsOfRage ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/50eed994-bc3e-427b-9c19-b392491b0450.jpeg

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

Not voting for a prosecutor. Guess it’s third party again.

kandoh ,

What a baby you are

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

You mad because I won’t vote for who you want?

kandoh ,

You’ll only vote for someone if they’re exactly perfect for you with no consideration for how it may affect others who will be vulnerable if team Satan wins.

You’re a little princess and there is a pea under your mattress. You cry about how uncomfortable it is and how you can’t possibly sleep.

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

I vote for what’s in my best interest not yours, you’re team, or whatever YOU say I should care about. And who said anything about perfection? Now you’re just making shit up and being angry about the shit you just made up. Time for you to accept that things just won’t go your way.

gh0stcassette ,
@gh0stcassette@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Google project 2025

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

I know about Project 2025. I never said I was voting for Trump. But I’m not gonna play along with this “you only have two choices so vote for the lesser evil” shit. The democrats did this to themselves and they should pay the price. They keep fucking up because of all the old people who refuse to give up power and because they think they can play the moral high ground and win.

RBG should have retired when Obama was president so he can appoint another liberal but she died when Trump was president think she was stubborn enough to hold off death. Obama should have appointed another judge when Scalia died but tried to be morally right and allow the next president to choose. Thinking it would be an easy win for Hilary he made a big gamble and lost. Feinstein stayed in office until her death at 90. Fuckin 90! Pelosi is 84 and still in office. These fossils need to get the fuck out of the way and let the people who actually have to live in this reality set the policies.

Why the hell should I reward the people who were the ones to fuck up this country. And yes I know both sides did their part. I see these two parties as the same and voting for either one of them is repeating the cycle.

HubertManne ,

woohoo. your right we need 4 more years and then america will be a great again paradise for those oppressed by the court systems all righty.

Eezyville ,
@Eezyville@sh.itjust.works avatar

Still not gonna vote for who you want.

someacnt_ ,

Wow, what a day!

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

From my European point of view, i just hope she picks Kelly as her VP. A progressive Astronaut, Ambassador for UNITED24 and someone that knows that we should save us from the ultimate climate collapse…maybe we can get Alexander Gerst here in Germany to do some politics :D

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Not a bad pick, could help keep Arizona blue. Having someone that’s been in combat on the ticket could nail help nail Trump on his “suckers” and “losers” stuff about the military. Could swing some independents.

Minarble ,

*Would definitely swing independents.

Just voting on personalities, as a disinterested independent, which team are you going to vote for? The young(ish) team with the astronaut and fighter pilot or the one with the geriatric fart that can’t talk?

And you lock in Arizona.

HubertManne ,

personally I would not mind obama.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Dumb. All because of a bad night that the media turned into a storm. Real world performance metrics were actually quite good for Joe. The Republican candidate says stuff on par with a semi-comatose baboon every time a microphone is in front of him. Supporters of this are oblivious to how much seething sexism and racism lies just under the surface in the US. This was a big part of how we got into this mess in the first place and why estimates for Hillary’s success were so far off. It will be an incredible win if she pulls this off, but it’s just not going to happen.

kandoh ,

Joe was 7 points behind in Michigan.

Americans have elected a black president already, and women have held every other level of office.

Everything sounds impossible until it happens.

Imgonnatrythis ,

It doesn’t sound impossible. It makes perfect sense, except look what happened to Hillary. I work in a role where I’m exposed to rural Americans and if you talk to them it’s incredible how the subtle prejudices start to come out. Also, polls this early are notoriously off base.

dadarobot ,
@dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I dont think we should run a woman because everyone else is sexist. /S

SeriousMite ,

I don’t know. I think with abortion on the ballot having a woman at the top of the ticket will be a benefit.

HubertManne ,

I would rather have gone with biden but whats done is done and im fine moving ahead.

TechAnon ,

WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH ALL MY BIDEN HATS, FLAGS, T-SHIRTS, AND STICKERS?!

/Just kidding - not in a cult 😅

Zacryon ,

not in a cult

Sure? You are on Lemmy after all.

/joking. Or am I? 🤔 VSauce music plays

TechAnon ,

Yep, dropped Digg for Reddit. Dropped Reddit for Lemmy. Will drop Lemmy for something else if I end up not liking it. 😎

Frozengyro ,

You now have enough data points to estimate how long until Lemmy turns to shit and you need to migrate again!

Machinist ,
@Machinist@lemmy.world avatar

I did Slashdot, Reddit, Lemmy.

TechAnon ,

Oh yes - I was on Slashdot and I’ll throw in Fark. :-)

tegs_terry ,

Maybe something where people don’t put shit like /joking because they’re petrified of downvotes

TechAnon ,

Where is that place?

Whitebrow ,

4chan?

tlou3please ,

I’m not American but want to be in the loop. Media here is saying Kamala Harris is the likely successor. What do people think of her? Is she liked? I assume her actual politics are more or less the same since she was VP.

morphballganon ,

She’s a former cop and former prosecutor. I haven’t seen much from her.

seth ,

Both of those are strikes against her imo, but she’ll still get my vote.

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

Not American either, i just hope she chooses Kelly as her VP…a progressive Astronaut in politics is more important than ever.

Phenomephrene ,
@Phenomephrene@thebrainbin.org avatar

Kelly should hold on to his Senate seat for as long as possible. There is zero guarantee that Arizona would send another Democrat to replace him.

nexusband ,
@nexusband@lemmy.world avatar

Well, that’s probably a pretty good argument. I wish it would be different…

Personally, I think we need space to solve climate change faster (or rather, the effects it has on us - climate change is a pretty intricate factor of the climate itself, but we need to be better prepared for those changes and mitigate some of them), U.S. politics are very influential around the world and that pick would hopefully influence ESA and their funding more…

ralphio ,

People don’t know her tbh. She used to be kind of a poor public speaker, but seems to have solved that based on recent appearances. Not gonna lie she’s a bit strange if you’ve ever heard her speak, but I don’t think it’ll hurt her against Trump who is an all time weirdo in American politics. Importantly she’s young and fairly sharp and hasn’t been around long enough to have too many skeletons in her closet.

secret300 ,

No idea who that is…

taiyang ,

In 2016 it was a “Vote Against Trump Regardless Of Who It Is”. It’s shaping up to be that again, but this gives me hope that maybe we’ll have someone we can vote for that we like… Even if just a little. Harris is no Obama in charm, but it’s a step in the right direction.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

The general election will continue to be a strategic vote against the party you don’t want to win until voters come out en masse in the primaries. And those better candidates will have to actually be running in the primaries.

Phenomephrene ,
@Phenomephrene@thebrainbin.org avatar

Not just the primaries; it's going to take a tea party style insurgency into the DNC in order to exact the actual changes that we are looking for. The long play is getting involved in your state level Democratic party apparatus and pushing for better representation of progressive policies in the party platform, and pushing people of progressive persuasions into the DNC. <--- Much inadvertent alliteration.

FlexibleToast ,

You mean not until the entire voting system is overhauled and the first pass the fence post system is abandoned.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Yes. I mean the thing that won’t happen until we overwhelmingly vote in the major parties primaries to put in representatives who will legislate those changes at the state level. Because 3rd party candidates aren’t winning with the current system, so we have to change the two major parties from within, through their primaries.

FlexibleToast ,

I don’t see that happening unless we were voting with rifles and guillotines.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

No 3rd party has won a single electoral vote since Wallace in '68. He won 46. You have to go to Teddy Roosevelt in 1912 to top that with 88 (the most ever). It’s either taking over the parties from the local level up through their primaries or it will take the full collapse of our government with a new constitutional convention, and that probably won’t go well.

FlexibleToast ,

Like I said, rifles or guillotines. I don’t see it reasonably happening through voting in our current system.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Well it can’t if we don’t try. For the 2024 primaries in Texas we had 17.9M registered voters, 3.2M primary ballots cast, and only 900k of them were Democratic. So I get why people think it isn’t going to work. But I think anyone expecting a “don’t vote and let it burn down” situation to result in an immediate improvement rather than things getting insanely worse are deluding themselves to everyone’s detriment.

FlexibleToast ,

I’m definitely not in the don’t vote camp. I just think I have reasonable expectations of what my vote can accomplish, and it’s not much.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Definitely a lot of well earned cynicism about the process.

audiomodder ,

We actually saw this happen in 2020 in the Democratic Party. And establishment Democrats played the game to force Bernie out. We’re hearing from people that Biden wasn’t the best person to beat Trump, he was the best person to beat Bernie. That’s why they rallied around him and pulled the bullshit with Warren before Super Tuesday.

baronvonj ,
@baronvonj@lemmy.world avatar

Yes, that was at the top. The president can’t unilaterally change state-owned voting laws. Bernie did succeed in getting more progressive candidates into the Democratic party primaries down ballot in 2018 and beyond. That pressure needs to be maintained all the way down to the state legislatures and city/county offices. We have to flip the states locally to get election reform at the state level in order to make 3rd party options viable at the national level. Focusing on the presidential race to shame Democrats into electoral reform is just an exercise in self-owning loss to the Republicans.

Wxnzxn ,
@Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml avatar

At this point, it’s all just about delaying the repression and concentration of power under a Trump presidency, as well as trying to slow down the climate catastrophe as much as possible on top of that. Things won’t get better any time soon, it’s simply not the historical situation and dynamic at the moment, but every year to organise people for radical alternatives for when the global collapse progresses further is valuable.

Imgonnatrythis ,

I could care less about charm. I wish more people would. Personally, I want a fucking autistic that defines real goals, outlines a plan to achieve them, and measures their success on how efficiently the goals are met. I’m exaggerating a bit, but I miss the days where politicians had platforms and were willing to be something more than just a feeling.

Psythik ,

Couldn’t* care less.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Bad bot. I like to leave a little wiggle room. I’ve often suprised myself and found that when I care very little about something, I can sometimes find a little more apathy later on.

toast ,

If you can care less, why mention it? It is an empty statement, supporting nothing. It has no rhetorical impact at all, except that reinforces the idea in your audience that you haven’t even a good grasp of the language you are using.

Imgonnatrythis ,

Perhaps you are an English speaker from outside the US? It is an often used and well known colloquialism in the states. It’s not any more empty than other accepted forms of speech that lack traditional grammar or syntax.

merriam-webster.com/…/could-couldnt-care-less

To a non US English speaker it would understandably sound strange. But to correct someone using this phrase in the states would only make one look like a prick.

toast ,

It is an often used and well known colloquialism

It is a bastardization of a well known colloquialism

To a non US English speaker it would understandably sound strange

To English speakers who’ve heard it and have given it any thought, it just sounds careless, or stupid

If someone were to point out something like this to me, I’d just say “oops”, learn from it, and move on. I wouldn’t double down on it. It’s like defending ‘would of’, or ‘supposably’ - obvious mishearings of other words. People know what you mean; it is just that you are also telling them something you probably don’t mean to.

Imgonnatrythis ,

That’s just how language evolves. You can pick lots of hills to die on with so called bastardization of the English language, it’s full of these. If you understand this is part of modern English and just pick fights on the internet, congrats - you have a full time hobby. No one is doubling down, I could care less how you choose to speak, I just thought perhaps you were unaware that in parts of the world this is accepted evolution of the language.

toast ,

Eye sea. Ewe our sew wright. Make language mistake non possible. Easy awl understand every won know matter what. Y try harder

Duamerthrax ,

An aside, I hate that this was posted to twitter before it was posted to Biden’s own website or the White House’s website first.

Psythik ,

This is why the internet sucks now. Nobody maintains their own websites anymore. These days everybody just posts everything on the same handful of centralized megacorp websites. Social media killed the golden age of the web.

elvith ,

There are some exceptions that still live by the POSSE*-principle, but they’re rare.

*Post to Own Site, Syndicate/Share Everywhere

SpaceCowboy ,
@SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

Well Trump posts stuff to his own website :P

But yeah, I agree. And there’s no excuse for it really. Sure a regular person only posting to a single social media makes sense, but anyone that has staff should be able post to their own website, issue a press release, post on Twitter, Mastodon, Facebook, Blue Sky, Reddit, etc. I mean once you have the statement finalized it’s just copy & paste to get it on all platforms. It seems bizarre that they don’t do this.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Ey yo at least this place exists

Duamerthrax ,

This is essentially a very fancy forum. I wouldn’t expect corporations or politicians to be posting here. Maybe they could host their own instance and federate. In principle, that would mean they’re paying for their own hosting and have control over their message being altered.

wanderingmagus ,

How about Mastodon?

yannic ,

E-mail, too. You could have all the latest security features to confirm you’re legitimate, but based on the simple fact that your message volume is low (ironically enough), messages you send with your server will often get filed under junk by default.

mynameisigglepiggle ,

Elon probably boosted it for free, max.publicity

jeffw ,
@jeffw@lemmy.world avatar

My first reaction was that he was hacked. It wasn’t on official letterhead, there was no other announcement, and the president didn’t immediately make another tweet/x/whatever.

I don’t think I’m alone. Typically when something big like this happens, I get 5-10 news alerts within minutes of each other from various sources. The alerts were slow to roll in today.

HappycamperNZ ,

"Oh shit, how do we spin this in Trumps favour"

  • US media
Agent641 ,

I hate that he started at least 2 sentences with “and”

aphlamingphoenix ,

It really helps you to hear it in his voice, though.

GiddyGap ,

Screw Elon

800XL ,

So the back the blue party of law and order will vote for the cop instead of the convicted felon now.

Just like the religious moral right will vote for the actual church attending catholic rather than the guy who doesn’t go to church and doesn’t know how to hold a bible upright.

Hello_there ,

MICHIGAN is now back in play

spyd3r ,
@spyd3r@sh.itjust.works avatar

Can we please just go back to being a backwater that no one cares about, moves to, or drives through? This state was way better back when it was off the map.

twistypencil ,

They should make Hunter Biden the VP pick, what a glorious troll that would be

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