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infyrin , in Judge Rules HP Must Face Class Action Lawsuit Over Disabled Printers
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So wait, even if I would use just the scanner from the device and not for copying purposes, it’ll still not work because of ink levels? If so, that is absolute bullshit.

Besides, I have lost faith in all-in-one devices. If one of them breaks, the rest of it goes too. And this is just a customer nightmare realized for HP to treat their devices in this fashion.

Saneless ,

Yes. Canon did this shit to me a decade+ ago. Had to go to the store late at night to buy yellow ink so I could scan a goddamned document I needed to send out. Haven’t given them another dollar since.

moody ,

That’s literally what the lawsuit is about. Scanning and faxing are disabled when your ink is too low.

FlashMobOfOne ,
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Happened to me in Summer 2020 after printing maybe 100 total pages on a printer I’d owned for two months.

I kept getting emails about the HP subscription program and then my basically new printer inexplicably stopped working. I assumed HP bricked it and, as much as I hated to, tossed it out and told myself I was never buying their product again. Luckily the KC public library has free black and white printing anyway.

Objects , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

We now know at least one trumper can read.

FollyDolly , in Giuliani struggling under massive legal bills after defending Trump
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Good.

randomaccount43543 , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

Just to be clear, the names of the grand jury members are public. They are written right there on page 9 of the indictment.

washingtonpost.com/…/1ccdf52e-1ba2-434c-93f8-2a70…

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

Of course the info is public but MAGA isn’t reading the indictment. They’ve already been convinced it’s full of lies.

stealthnerd ,

Right, the fact that they dug up their addresses and posted them is the disturbing part. The article, particularly the headline, is misleading.

FarFarAway , in Kansas newspaper to regain items seized in controversial police raid

Can’t give back everything. Poor co owner died from the stress. 90 something or not, you can’t give back a life.

Madison420 ,

Damages, they’ll be made whole and come out swinging with more money and more protection.

grue ,

“Made whole” how, necromancy‽

Madison420 ,

It’s a legal phrase but I mean if your know a necromancer I’ll take a card.

grue ,

I understand it’s a legal phrase, but in reality it isn’t actually possible to compensate for a death by paying monetary damages, no matter how much the lawyers try to convince themselves it is!

Madison420 ,

I didn’t say it was right boss, just what it is.

ineedaunion , in Entire police department in Minnesota resigns

Awwww pigs sad they can’t kill people without looking like heros. All pigs should be bacon.

Cethin ,

Eat the rich and pigs.

rez_doggie , in Entire police department in Minnesota resigns

Those pigs just needed to pull harder on those boot straps

OkToBeTakei , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

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  • collegefurtrader ,

    Public information?

    Quaternions ,
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    It’s publicly released information. It has to be by GA law

    sndmn , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

    Because of course they did…

    sucricdrawkcab , in Giuliani struggling under massive legal bills after defending Trump
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    I put money on Rudy and Jenna to flip first, if they haven’t already, on Trump.

    Dreadrat ,

    I hope not. Giuliani deserves to rot in prison

    sucricdrawkcab ,
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    Oh he’s going to jail, but he’s going to do whatever it takes to make sure he doesn’t take all the heat.

    Mic_Check_One_Two , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

    Give every single doxxed GJ member secret service protection, and make Trump pay for it.

    dual_sport_dork ,
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    Even easier: just reassign the guys from his detail to protect those people, until there’s nobody left to cover his entourage.

    Default_Defect ,
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    Give the people Trump trusts with his life to the people he likely wants to be silenced? Good idea.

    like47ninjas ,

    Better yet, redeploy the ones on Trump and put new ones on the threatened!

    You know, shuffle the cards around, same impact.

    ScrollinMyDayAway , in Judge Rules HP Must Face Class Action Lawsuit Over Disabled Printers

    I’m in IT, and anything HP can just fuck off.

    Edit to add: Never buy any printer that comes with an ink/toner subscription service.

    pizza-bagel , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

    Yikes, I hope these people's entire family has some sort of protection. It's normal for them to attempt to kill anyone they don't like.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    for a week? Then they are thrown to the wolves. Of course it isn’t like the movies where one is some vet special forces guy and he takes out every threat to his home. It is more like some regular person being yelled at by their employer because people are calling and cussing.

    Just read up on what happens to regular folks who get doxxed.

    Ryan213 , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online
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    So… What happens next?

    0110010001100010 ,

    Unfortunately, probably someone getting hurt or killed. To the GQP the political violence is a feature, not a bug. I hope I'm wrong.

    Uranium3006 ,
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    their final phase is terrorism. we must resist and crush them

    HurlingDurling ,

    Sadly, it reminds me of something I read in a book about a series of event’s when a certain person became reelected in europe in the 30s-40s.

    athos77 , in Trump supporters post names and addresses of Georgia grand jurors online

    I looked at the indictment last night and noticed it included the names of the grand jurors. I dropped my head into my hands, knowing this was inevitable. I don't understand why the names weren't reacted.

    TransplantedSconie ,

    No way. How stupid can you be lol

    kool_newt ,

    As I understand this is the law of the state, it would’ve been illegal to not make the names public. The reasoning is based on transparency – secret jurors would make for less trust.

    TransplantedSconie ,

    Well, I hope the state is prepared to spend a shitton of money on protecting these people. Trump supporters aren’t the most stable of people.

    RojoSanIchiban ,

    See: FISA

    Basically the “kernel of truth” that gave us deep state idiocy.

    4am ,

    Georgia law is that grand jurors names are public.

    Yeah, pretty naive. Or evil. Maybe both?

    athos77 ,

    I didn't know that. I wish they had a process for applying to redact, for cases like this :(

    JustZ ,
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    Do you in GA whether grand jurors are professionals or pulled in for random jury duty?

    peopleproblems , (edited )

    Pretty sure grand Jurors are professionals in most if not all common law states.

    A couple of the peoples titles on the list pointed me towards that they are.

    Edit: I’m pretty certain I’m wrong. There’s something else I must be confusing it with

    surewhynotlem ,

    It prevents loading the jury to get a specific outcome. That said, it should come with protection or a delay or something.

    BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

    Not saying it is, but showing me, a regular citizen, these names convinces me the jury wasn’t loaded? Does the defendant have no role in Grand jury selection?

    DoctorWhookah ,

    No, the defendant doesn’t. This isn’t a trial jury, it’s the Fulton County Grand Jury. The GJ sits for an extended period (maybe a month, someone step in and correct me if I’m wrong) and listens to cases brought by the prosecutor. The GJ job is to decide if the prosecutor has enough of a case to indict. It seems in this case, she did.

    somethingsnappy ,

    Just to clarify, the sitting grand jury does not then sit on the jury for the trial.

    Vorticity , (edited )

    That’s generally right. In Fulton County they sit for two months. There were two different grand jurys here, though.

    There was a Special Grand Jury who met for 8 months and investigated the specific crimes related to the Trump case. They issued a report in January detailing all of the evidence that they heard.

    In GA, though, a Special Grand Jury can’t issue an indictment. The report was passed to a normal grand jury who heard all of the evidence, then issued the indictment. That grand jury was first seated on July 11th.

    source

    Infynis ,
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    There’s all kinds of laws like this that are super old, and really harmful in modern life. Like name changes having to be published in the paper, and home ownership being public information. Sorry trans people, if you want to legally change your name, you have to be out to everyone! And don’t even think about buying a house if there’s someone you don’t want knowing where you live, like an abusive family member or ex!

    They’re left over from times when information was harder to come by, and they absolutely need to be changed, but our governments are bad at legislating for modern problems

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    And don’t even think about buying a house

    Well that is a problem that is fading away.

    Wooki ,

    Maybe for you.

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  • afraid_of_zombies ,

    In that case our government has failed to do this. Who owns your mortgage? It was repackaged into a mortgage backed security with thousands of owners. Who owns that commercial property that has been sitting idle for thirty years? Owned by nested shell companies.

    Another reason why mortgaged backed securities should be criminalized.

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  • afraid_of_zombies ,

    Very well. Please pick a property not paid off on your block and tell me every single owner, including people who own a millionth of a percent of it via 401ks. I want names, precents, legal terms that they are operating under, and purchase date(s). I will except CSV format only.

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    socsa ,

    A mortgage backed security is a structured debt derivative contract which is backed by the cash flow of the loan, via the issuing bank. It doesn’t actually grant any ownership rights to the underlying asset itself.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Fancy words for it is a share of ownership with an abstraction layer for bailouts.

    NuPNuA ,

    Home and land ownership is public in most countries, it’s an important thing to have transparency on.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    🤔 Is it possible for an abuse victim to buy a house through an LLC to avoid that problem? How does that work for real estate businesses?

    Infynis ,
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    It is actually! I have a friend who’s dad is extremely libertarian (despite having been a marine?), And he bought his house under an LLC for pricacy’s sake. I’m sure it would work for less crazy reasons as well

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    There needs to be a nonprofit that helps victims set up such things so they can hide from their abusers.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Interesting. I wonder if you could buy a home zoned for single family, sell it to a LLC that you run, then rent it out to two families (if one is your own) since it is now commercial rental.

    Infynis ,
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    From what I’ve read, living in a house you buy yourself makes it lose most of the protection of an LLC, because you have “pierced the corporate veil”. All it really ends up doing is protecting your identity

    Katana314 ,

    Unfortunately, while you’re citing lots of very valid cases of innocent people being victimized, I also think that the trail of information that follows people is very important for systems of justice.

    Imagine criminals getting away with white collar crime, having changed their name to make it more difficult for people to publicly scrutinize them.

    I can’t quite imagine what protections might make sense to keep trans people safe, and it’s hard for me to think about which group should be prioritized. Of course, ideally, we’d live in a world where anyone retaliating to someone’s gender transition would be headed for a hard time themselves.

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