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4am , in WATCH: Man in giant inflatable Trump costume taunts former president outside DC courthouse
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You see, gentlemen? True patriots do still exist. šŸ„²

doppelgangmember , in Federal jury acquits Louisiana trooper caught on camera pummeling Black motorist

God i hate Louisiana. Just a resource colony with the resource curse, sports, and paradesā€¦

billbasher , in Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000

If you buy the hardware you should be able to turn it on. Jail breaking is fully moral in that situation.

The self driving is software that uses the hardware so should be paid for IMO. You should also be able to use your own software thatā€™s open source on the hardware you own

Jilanico ,
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What if your own self driving software causes an accident/death?

Mindlight ,

What if Teslas own self driving software causes an accident/death?

Jilanico ,
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Tesla is subject to some oversight by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. They recently forced a recall when they werenā€™t satisfied with Teslaā€™s software.

reuters.com/ā€¦/tesla-recalls-362000-us-vehicles-ovā€¦

Maybe not ideal, but better than nothing I suppose. What oversight is a homebrew software alternative subject to?

Mindlight ,

Does Teslas still have a disclaimer that the self-driving features arenā€™t self-driving and that if the driver is using the self driving features and there is an accident Tesla canā€™t be held liable?

Jilanico ,
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No idea, but Iā€™d imagine so.

Mindlight ,

So it doesnā€™t matter whatever youā€™re using Teslas or a 3rd party software since you, as the driver, are responsible for the outcome.

Jilanico ,
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If it was a matter of installing software on a laptop or phone, Iā€™d agree with you, but installing software on a vehicle that can run over people is another matter, disclaimer or not.

Just like some cars are street legal and some cars are not, some software should be street legal and some software not. If the 3rd party software has been cleared by regulators for your Tesla, Iā€™d be fine with it.

Mindlight ,

So youā€™re claiming the software in Teslas have been tested and approved by the authorities?

Jilanico ,
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You didnā€™t read the article I linked? Seems they do it after the fact, which is sus imo, but authorities are exerting some level of oversight.

Mindlight ,

I did read it. They opened an investigation like 5 years after The Model S was released and people have died. Now, 6 years after that, something actually happens. 6 years of more accidents.

The same could be done with 3rd party software so thereā€™s no difference and itā€™s not the same as the car system being regularly inspected.

Jilanico ,
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I havenā€™t followed it closely to know all the deets, but some action being taken is better than none. Iā€™m not out here defending Tesla or current government policies. I do believe that if I have to pass a driving test to operate a vehicle, then whatever self-driving software is installed should do the same.

If youā€™re trying to convince me that anyone should be able to take any random self driving software they found on the Internet, install it, and let it go wild on public streets, weā€™re going to have to agree to disagree.

Mindlight ,

It seems you are trying to prove that ā€œrandom softwareā€ is unsafe compared to Teslaā€™s when you actually have no idea how safe Teslaā€™s is.

There are multiple companies and universities developing software for self driving cars.

What if the ā€œrandom softwareā€ was developed and maintained by Volvo, would you still call it ā€œrandom softwareā€? Would you still claim that Teslaā€™s software is more safe to use?

Jilanico ,
@Jilanico@lemmy.world avatar

Nope, if you look at a previous comment of mine in this thread, youā€™d see Iā€™m fine with 3rd party software as long as itā€™s been approved by regulators. Same goes for Teslaā€™s software - if it hasnā€™t been approved by regulators prior to deployment on the streets, Iā€™m against it.

Mindlight ,

So youā€™re not fine with Teslaā€™s even?

Since there is no such testing youā€™re talking about.

cley_faye ,

Running your own software to control the automotive part of a car is probably not legal, since I assume the process of making a car street legal should requires an audit of said system.

Hmm, well, I hope it is the case, anyway.

schroedingershat ,

Any software that passes whatever local safety standard should be installable (or software that doesnā€™t pass if the car is not being used on public roads).

Otherwise the car is not being sold, itā€™s being rented, and all the advertising that says anything about buying is fraud.

induna_crewneck ,

Good luck getting a homebrew OS for tesla cars to pass those tests. I donā€™t even know how that would work. Iā€™d be curious to know what would happen if you would try to register and get a car through the TƜV for example that runs on custom firmware.

schroedingershat ,

Itā€™s similarly hard to make an airbag or seat belt, but you can still undo the bolt without the manufacturer in another country bricking your car without any considerations of your local laws.

reverendsteveii ,

The whole internet runs on a homebrew os.

induna_crewneck ,

What does that even mean and how is it relevant here? ā€œThe internetā€ isnā€™t a car or piece of hardware.

reverendsteveii ,

Well-developed software built by professionals to industry standards and capable of doing a very important job effectively. And homebrew. You might be surprised at what sufficiently motivated nerds are capable of.

induna_crewneck ,

Im sorry, I still donā€™t know what youā€™re talking about. What about the internet runs on homebrew and how is it related to cars?

Blissingg ,

You might not understand what homebrew in a software sense is then full stop. Homebrew in software just means not commercially made/backed.

GNU/Linux and plenty of other open source projects that power your modern life and the internet started the same way.

induna_crewneck ,

Homebrew software is unofficial/non-commercial software for systems which were originally set up with proprietary software (like gaming console or in this case car OSs).

Blissingg ,

Thatā€™s the definition for games consoles specifically, I know you pulled it from wiki :)

Every computer that comes preinstalled with windows also falls under your definition though as does any Mac.

Linux was also developed for or spurned by a system that was proprietary and only for educational purposes MINIX.

GrumbleGrim , in Mortgage rates climb toward 7% after America's credit rating was downgraded

The market is fucked. The house I bought 3 years ago has doubled in value. Itā€™s absolutely insane.

And you might be thinking, Great sell it! But then I have to find a new house that isnā€™t being swallowed up by businesses paying cash for them (good luck). And we will never again see 2% mortgages in our lifetime, so Iā€™m just going to die in this massively overvalued house.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Arenā€™t your taxes going to explode?

psycho_driver ,

My taxes have doubled in the six years weā€™ve had our house. Mortgage + taxes + insurance are still way cheaper than what dickbag landlords want to charge for an apartment half this size in the current market. It helps that Iā€™m a DIYer and can fix pretty much anything that goes wrong with the house.

afraid_of_zombies ,

I donā€™t know what to say. You sound screwed but could have been screwed much worse. Sorry or congrats?

My landlord inherited the property and he is a lazy asshole. Every few years I change the dates on my lease and have him sign it. No plans to ever move. The lowest priced home that isnā€™t condemned in my city stands at half a million. A friend of mine was out bid on a home in the nearby city by 100k and in cash.

psycho_driver ,

I donā€™t know what to say. You sound screwed but could have been screwed much worse. Sorry or congrats?

I think the bottom line is that almost everyone is screwed the way things are going. Iā€™m screwed a lot less than other people since I got in at a (comparatively, now) low purchase price and great interest rate. My home insurance company has surprisingly not increased itā€™s rates for the last two years as well, so thatā€™s a silver lining I suppose.

GrumbleGrim ,

Not as long as it is not reassessed.

psycho_driver ,

Same wrt buying a house at the right time. We do plan on selling ours though at or close to retirement. Weā€™re both working pension jobs so weā€™ll just buy a modest RV and live off of our retirements + the proceeds from the eventual house sale (if thereā€™s still an America and American market at that point). Thatā€™s the plan, anyway.

GiddyGap ,

This is called ā€œgolden handcuffsā€ among real estate researchers.

applejacks , in Weā€™re now finding out the damaging results of the mandated return to the officeā€“and itā€™s worse than we thought
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Can concur here.

My company, at first, decided to ask everyone to come back into the office.

They were also trying to hire more people, but almost every candidate dropped out once they heard they would be expected to go in.

Theyā€™ve now reversed course and let people work from anywhere.

ArugulaZ , in WATCH: Man in giant inflatable Trump costume taunts former president outside DC courthouse

Ugly man enters Prettyman courthouse. News at eleven.

some_guy , in A woman escaped a makeshift cinder block 'dungeon' in Oregon, police say. The FBI believes there are more victims in other states | CNN

This article from AP has a lot more info:

apnews.com/ā€¦/interstate-kidnapping-escape-oregon-ā€¦

sbv ,

Two Nevada State Patrol officers tracked Zuberi down at a Walmart parking lot in Reno the next day, July 16, the complaint says. He was in his car holding one of his children in the front seat while talking to his wife, who was standing outside the vehicle. He initially refused to get out of the car when the officers asked and instead cut himself with a sharp object and tried to destroy his phone, according to the complaint, which notes that Zuberi eventually surrendered and that the child wasnā€™t harmed.

WTF

Whiskey_iicarus , in WATCH: Man in giant inflatable Trump costume taunts former president outside DC courthouse
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The craziest part of this whole deal is the support for him hasnā€™t really shifted.

Despite or because of all these legal problems, Trump remains by far the favorite for the 2024 Republican Party presidential nomination>

cassetti ,
shectabeni ,

And usually all these pressers do is increase his donations. Itā€™s wild.

Blamemeta ,

Why would? A dude in a trump costume is just dumb.

Whiskey_iicarus ,
@Whiskey_iicarus@lemmy.world avatar

I was referring to the multitude of federal indictments. Thanks for playing though!

Blamemeta ,

I thought you were talking about the article?

Whiskey_iicarus ,
@Whiskey_iicarus@lemmy.world avatar

My original post was a comment on a paragraph out of the article.

cedarmesa , (edited )
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NuPNuA ,

The republicans I know are ones opposed to the British monarchy, they seem alright mostly. ;-)

Boldizzle ,
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All the Republican/Trump supporters Iā€™ve ever met here in New Zealand (why? Who the hell knows)are batshit crazy. Most of them Christians too surprise surprise.

TheFriendlyArtificer ,

I will never understand how he has international fans.

Do other countries not have comparable sociopathic narcissists?

Boldizzle ,
@Boldizzle@lemmy.world avatar

It baffles me too.

There was an antivax mandate protest at Parliament here last year and there were actually people in the crowd holding Trump 2024 posters. Like wtf?!

Snowpix ,
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You can thank Rupert Murdoch and his cable TV ā€œnewsā€ empire. He has propaganda channels internationally that all spout the same pro-Trump/right wing crap that idiots fall for.

cedarmesa , (edited )
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Tygr , in Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000

Wouldnā€™t software tampering the full self-driving package give deniability to Tesla for your accident that killed someone?

glimse , in Mortgage rates climb toward 7% after America's credit rating was downgraded

Did they dip? They were at 7.25 like a month ago

Tygr ,

Yes they did. We visited 6.5% land for a while. I locked a lot of clients then to take advantage of it.

glimse ,

Well fuck. Wish I listed then.

House prices seem to be falling a bit which is nice but I expect it to pick up when we get closer to schools openingā€¦

Tygr ,

I canā€™t really respond with my thoughts here because Iā€™m licensed in four states and all of them are experiencing different shifts in real estate, which I find odd.

California listings are selling quick while Utah is taking a long time to get sold. Just an example.

glimse ,

Around here Iā€™d say the average price dropped about 10-15% and itā€™s pretty slow. My neighbor sold in a week for over asking a few months ago, now my other neighbor is only getting lowballs and itā€™s been on the market for 3 weeks.

Iā€™m not a realtor but Iā€™ve been in the market for the past few months so Iā€™m on redfin daily

SneedsFeednSeed , in WATCH: Man in giant inflatable Trump costume taunts former president outside DC courthouse

Rent free šŸ¤ 

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Interesting argument.

Where did you learn how to have conversations and debate?

SneedsFeednSeed ,

It wasnā€™t an argument it was an observation. Where did you learn how to comprehend?

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

Same place you learned about sarcasm, I guess.

ImFresh3x ,

He is the presumptive GOP nominee. He is making history with 80+ felonies and a century of prison time in the sentencing guidelines. Itā€™s not free. Heā€™s paying.

FlyingSquid ,
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And he was being arraigned today. Which is a major news story pretty much everywhere even in other countries.

pozbo ,
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BidenDerrangementSyndrome says what?

DigitalTraveler42 , in US military may put armed troops on commercial ships in Strait of Hormuz to stop Iran seizures

Itā€™s time for the Merchant Marines if thatā€™s the case, those guys are actually trained for exactly this stuff, and most are former Sailors, Coasties, and Marines.

RockDeBilly , in Mortgage rates climb toward 7% after America's credit rating was downgraded

The survey includes only borrowers who put 20% down and have excellent credit.

Thatā€™s rough.

Aviandelight , in Nose-picking health workers more likely to get Covid, study shows
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Iā€™d be more concerned about hand washing. Youā€™d be amazed at how many health care professionals donā€™t wash their hands properly.

Diprount_Tomato ,
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And the guy who told them first lost basically everything

_haha_oh_wow_ ,
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More like horrified...

EnderMB , in Weā€™re now finding out the damaging results of the mandated return to the officeā€“and itā€™s worse than we thought

I work for the Rainforest company.

I genuinely believe that they are hoping, if not praying that RTO results in a huge chunk of people leaving. Alongside forcing people back to the office, theyā€™re now pushing people to relocate to main offices, and limiting teams from hiring internally.

Iā€™d say the same is for many big companies. Theyā€™re absolutely desperate for people to leave in order to cut costs and look lean to investors while they take in record profits.

SargTeaPot ,

Iā€™m a mechanic, Iā€™m yet to find spanners long enough to work from home :(

valen ,
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Not everyone can have the luxury of working from home. Most knowledge workers can. Cooks and waitstaff, teachers, mechanics, etc. have to work at the ā€œofficeā€.

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