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cdf12345 , in Disney wants wrongful death of LI doctor lawsuit tossed over Disney+ streaming terms

Arbitration clauses need to be deemed illegal.

Especially ones that are mandatory for employment

solsangraal ,

or at the absolute bare fucking minimum be opt-in only, instead of “opt out by sending us a handwritten letter through snail mail within 45 minutes of this notice.” the shit offers less than zero benefit to the consumer and basically lets corporations get away with murder

nothing will ever change to make them go away

Maggoty ,

Opt in with customers isn’t a thing. If you don’t opt in, you don’t get housing, or Internet, or phone service. The list goes on. Opt in is libertarian propaganda. No different than at will employment.

Sesudesu ,

Yeah, I was gonna say basically the same thing, ‘opt in’ is just a solid point of leverage away from ‘required.’

Should be illegal.

hddsx ,

Arbitration has its place in B2B contracts.

With consumers or employees? Absolutely not

Silentiea , (edited )
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If nothing else, they should always be mutual. Have Disney take their copyright claims to arbitration rather than using the other legal channels available to them.

gramie ,

I’m just about to move to Quebec, which is based on the French Napoleonic code rather than English Common Law. I’m not an expert, but I understand that the French system does not rely on precedent in making judicial decisions, but everything has to be codified in the law.

Anyway, another one of the legal differences between Quebec and other provinces in Canada is that mandatory arbitration clauses are illegal.

The medical system may be imploding even faster than the rest of Canada, and my rights as an English speaker may be stripped from me by the time I move, but they do have some protections for individuals.

grue ,

Merde, j’ai besoin d’aller au Montreal!

(I know that’s not quite right, but I’m proud of it anyway 'cause I didn’t use machine translation.)

LustyArgonianMana ,
@LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world avatar

Yes agreed. It should be illegal to compel someone to give up their fucking rights (to their detriment and to the benefit of the person making them agree especially, especially when the person benefitting is an authority figure). This includes police encouraging the people they arrest to talk without a lawyer.

gibmiser , in Disney wants wrongful death of LI doctor lawsuit tossed over Disney+ streaming terms

“Disney is calling for the lawsuit to be dismissed because her husband signed up for a one-month trial of the Disney+ streaming service years prior.

The company says signing up for the trial requires users to arbitrate all disputes with the company.”

Some lawyers truly are scum.

TransplantedSconie ,

Wow.

foggy ,

I do hope whoever suggested that this is a legitimate cause to dismiss the case dies of an intestinal blockage caused by hemorrhoids. Just a thing I hope.

mke ,

If a lawyer is scum, then so is the one paying them.

BossDj ,

“I don’t care how you handle it, just handle it.”

SteveFromMySpace ,

Some people/companies/etc. really take “you miss 100% of the shots you don’t take” too far.

scytale ,

Arguing over health/death via a technicality is one of the lowest of lows.

Maggoty ,

This shouldn’t even be a technicality here. If this goes through and a TOS is universally binding to your life then the court system just died. Also they can put other ridiculous things in there like you owe them the subscription money in perpetuity even if you decide to uninstall the app. They’ll argue the consideration is there because you can re-install at any time.

Glemek ,

Just get your bullets inscribed with “by receiving this bullet you have agreed to our tos, by which all liability is to be decided by the shooter’s dog, who does not like you.” Then murder is legal.

newthrowaway20 ,

Maybe we can finally claw these arbitration powers back?

iamericandre ,

Wait this isn’t a joke?

QuantumSparkles ,

Very much nottheonion material. Something like

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Shellfish Poisonings”

iamericandre ,

Fucking hell

Zoomboingding ,
@Zoomboingding@lemmy.world avatar

“Signing up for a free trial of Disney+ means they can kill you, legally.”

QuantumSparkles ,

”Disney Legal Team Argues that Agreeing to the Terms & Conditions of Their Streaming Platform Releases The Company of Any and All Potential Liability in Political Assassination”

Adderbox76 ,

All corporate lawyers are scum.

some_guy ,

This could be a precedent-setting case. These fuckers better not get away with this.

BossDj ,

But this is happening in post-precedent America

KevonLooney ,

So would this mean that Disney can no longer use their massive legal department to crush fair use of their IP? If someone signs up for Disney+, the arbitration agreement goes both ways.

I would think a competent judge would just ask the Disney lawyer that question. Like, “do you want to be out of a job?”

some_guy ,

That’s actually a pretty sharp observation. Weaponize it against them in return.

billiam0202 ,

No.

You and Disney agree to arbitrate all your claims. Disney still retains the right to fuck you over to the full extent of the legal system.

After all, corporations are people, and some people are more people than other people.

Silentiea ,
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That’s the best paraphrase of Animal Farm I’ve heard in a while.

Voltage ,
@Voltage@sh.itjust.works avatar

this is actual parody dystopian movie level crazy wtf

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

Don’t blame lawyers, blame the lawmakers. Heck, people and/or civil society is responsible for petitioning to lawmakers for stronger protections. Absurd amounts of money/lobbying has perverted the process, which is why a lot of these entities need to be taxed of out their power to have lobbying money.

mathemachristian , in Donald Trump says he will flee to Venezuela if he loses election [Newsweek]

That would be awesome he’d get a fair’trial there Im sure.

TheObviousSolution , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry
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The biggest problem with Scientology is that it speaks to our politicians pockets. It’s definitely and sickeningly on its way to becoming Yet Another Religion, and it does so under the cover for legislation that still allows exceptions from the law for cults even when their “fair game” policy is well-documented. It speaks volumes about why certain religious regimes are allowed to do what they do.

Scientology targets the mental health industry because that’s the target base of their most ardent supporters, they are built on targeting the mentally ill and telling them “no, this isn’t an illness you suffer that will require time and effort to treat and will always weigh on you, it’s that you are special and channeling all of these thetans, which is just another name for spirit that makes it sound less recycled” and it gets intentionally crazier as you get to the higher tiers, which requires considerable wealth, so that only the most mentally ill reach it or the most manipulative do so, with the relatively normal people on the bottom trained to win intense staredown contests to make them seem imposing for the PR when they are just empty inside and suffering from a cultural and economical form of sunk cost fallacy.

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Maggoty ,

It wasn’t the extra links. It’s the bias in the bias detector.

5oap10116 , in Break-in reported at Trump campaign office in Virginia

Let the clueless speculation and conspiracies begin!

jordanlund , in Donald Trump says he will flee to Venezuela if he loses election [Newsweek]
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Wouldn’t that be a violation of his release following being convicted of 34 felonies?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

We can make an exception for exile, it’s a fun tradition.

todd_bonzalez ,
@todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

Yeah, leaving could be easy. Coming home on the other hand…

prole ,

Am I allowed to volunteer to be exiled?

daqu , in Starbucks’ CEO is out. Chipotle’s Brian Niccol is taking over

From one bean company to another. I hope everyone calls him Mr. Bean.

AngryCommieKender ,

I’m now hoping he looks like a Wish Mr. Bean.

sunzu2 , in Locking up items to deter shoplifting is pushing shoppers online

These clowns will do anything but staff the store...

THEN CRIME REHEEEEE

So they hire security... so now we have 2 cashiers and 4 security guards. Clown fucking management.

Llewellyn ,

What should they do?

Buelldozer , (edited ) in Historic Gun Suit Survives Serious Legal Threat Engineered by Indiana Republicans
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There is a federally defined process by which firearms go from manufacturer to retailer to end user. A manufacturer cannot tell a retailer how or to whom a firearm can be sold, that’s done by the Federal Government. The fault for any illegal firearms transfer is with whoever last transferred the damn thing. So when Glock manufacturers a new pistol it’s then transferred (with lots of paperwork) to the retailer. The retailer then transfers (sells) again with paperwork, that Glock to the purchaser. If that end user then transfers (sells) that Glock to another end user neither the manufacturer nor the original retailer know anything about it or have any say in the transfer process.

So on what rational basis is a manufacturer responsible for the downstream actions of others, actions that they cannot control?

This is the same thing as suing Dodge (Ram) because their pickup trucks keep getting sold to drunks who kill people while driving them.

secundnature ,

To me it seems like there is something they’re scared of, otherwise they’d just let the courts handle it instead passing legislation to retroactively try and get the entire lawsuit thrown out. 🤷‍♂️

Carmakazi ,

I think with these kinds of suits the core conceit is that gun manufacturing/sales is a sordid, immoral business along the lines of cigarettes, and that the very existence of a consumer market for their product implies their misuse and negative impact on society. Therefore, they should bear more responsibility for that impact.

They were emboldened by the suit against Bushmaster/Remington that succeeded and ultimately bankrupted Freedom Group.

foggy , in An ex-Kansas police chief who led a raid on a newspaper is charged with obstruction of justice

Let’s add resisting arrest, just because.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

Can we sprinkle some crack on him?

index , in Scientology is on the brink of killing an entire medical industry

Wasn’t one of the faces of scientology just paid by the french government to star at the olympics?

Randelung ,

There’s a scientology building on the way from the stadium back to the metro.

maps.app.goo.gl/wDv35KNrmHSQPYgXA

RandomStickman , in School employee gets 9 years in prison for stealing $1.5 million worth of chicken wings from district
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How do you even move that much wings lmao. Is there some wing mafia?

SpruceBringsteen ,

Spread over a decade it’s not a crazy amount for a local franchise to take.

RandomStickman ,
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She did it over 19 months though

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

If she did it over 19 months and we use @jordanlund’s figures from another comment in the post of her stealing 465,838lbs of wings it would mean that she was stealing 800lbs of chicken a day. That’s an insane amount of chicken.

artichokecustard ,

this lady is definitely the fall guy for some chicken mafia related activities, people were profiting from this, it’s bigger than just one lady and some friends, how can you move that much chicken in a day, everyday? someone find the closest wing place and tell me that their prices are incredibly reasonable at least

parrhesia ,

Or she is making really good chicken and selling out a lot

kandoh , in Rachael Lillis, 'Pokémon' actor who voiced Misty and Jessie, dies at 46

I hope she was able to get the end of life care her family was fundraising for.

Her voice was a big party of my childhood in the 90s and 00s.

46 is way too young to go so fast. Excruciating for her friends and family, I can’t imagine.

teamevil , in Americans don't like Project 2025

Billionaire Americans do, because it doesn’t apply to them

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