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AmbiguousProps , in Jerry Seinfeld is interrupted onstage by pro-Palestinian protesters — again

“free gaza” is not “Jew hate”, that’s absolutely insane.

AFC1886VCC ,

Shame on people like him for abusing antisemitism claims.

FlyingSquid , in [US Representative] Stefanik Loses It When Fox News Host Reminds Her She Called Trump a 'Whack Job'
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

HOW DARE YOU TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT ME! THE TRUTH IS FAKE NEWS!

revelrous , (edited )

Every other* year I vote against this fucker hard enough to put a hole through the ballot. This is why it is important we switch out those lead pipes.

Wrench ,

It’s just a matter of time before Republicans start claiming any video proof of their words and actions are just deep fakes.

girlfreddy ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Cops do it all the time, ie: “But the video doesn’t tell the whole story of what happened.”

paddirn , in Students walk out during Jerry Seinfeld’s commencement speech at Duke

What’s the deal with college kids these days?

CaptainSpaceman ,

Took me a second

FenrirIII ,
@FenrirIII@lemmy.world avatar

Title of your sex tape.

CaptainSpaceman ,

Not even worth the film.

ShepherdPie ,

Their sex tape was shot with a Polaroid.

nickwitha_k ,

I call mine “A Tale of Two Dissappointments”. Was going for a literary-arthouse vibe. Most of the budget (about $5.13 and a pack of Welch’s-brand fruit snacks) went to wardrobe, leaving little for production (not to mention post-production). It went a surprisingly long way though as the miniature costumes were very light on raw materials and the labor was handled through an unpaid internship given to a student at the local Liberal Arts college that was majoring in Experimental Puppet Theater.

brbposting ,
cabron_offsets , in Florida baffles experts by banning local water break rules as deadly heat is on the rise

What the fuck do people not understand? This is really fucking simple: repubs will extract as much value for themselves from society, while they’re alive, with not a concern for the costs to others or the future. That’s what motivates 100% of their shit. That’s why they’ve betrayed America. That’s why they’re cool if kids get shot up. They’re soulless ghouls, utter parasites.

homesweethomeMrL ,

You won o’ them soshsalisss?! Probably drink the soys and like the boys! Hyuk hyuk! Nah look out Imma git my aircraft-carrier-sized pickup an go buy me som ammanishin!

Srs tho every republican who gets heat stroke as a result of this unconscionable law will 100% absolutely not investigate their beliefs. Because their beliefs have 100% nothing to do with it.

llamapocalypse , in Many FBI agents are struggling to make ends meet. Housing costs are to blame

This CERTAINLY couldn’t have any national security consequences, nope.

Justas ,
@Justas@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yep, nobody can bribe a person who’s struggling financially.

girlfreddy , in Boeing whistleblower John Barnett was spied on, harassed by managers, lawsuit claims
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It stated that Barnett “continually objected to Boeing creating and maintaining a program not approved by the FAA that allowed mechanics to inspect and approve their own work, known as the Multi-function Process Performer.”

Boeing should be dismantled and everyone involved in the harassment campaign against Barnett should be charged.

But that’ll never happen 'cause it’s too big to fail.

umbrella ,
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

But that’ll never happen 'cause it’s too big to fail.

capitalism at its finest, who would have tought.

FordBeeblebrox ,

Them inspecting their own product was a funny punchline for John Oliver, very much not funny in the real world.

Agreed, Boeing should be dismantled and the people charged.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t understand why “too big to fail” is also “too big to be broken up.” We broke up what was once literally the only company you could use if you wanted to use a telephone and it seems to have worked out.

neptune ,

What was once a politically reasonable and feasible course of action is now communism. Fox News now thinks for 30% of the country.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

And you know the craziest part? The plan to break up the Bell monopoly was created under Ford’s DOJ and implemented under Reagan.

So even they were in favor of breaking up “too big to fail” companies.

neptune ,

Reagan is a RINO! Everyone knows that.

jkrtn ,

If the government is giving any money to these assholes it should be from buying all their stock at fire sale prices using money from fines paid by the CEOs and board of directors.

rockSlayer , in Nightclubs on the brink as clean-living Gen Zs ditch scene

I’m in the “Z-lennial” group, it’s mostly just the cost for me. Why would I spend $20 on 2 drinks at a bar when I can get a 12 pack for $16 and play terraria with my friends?

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Or by myself, even better!

LowtierComputer ,

Got space on your server?

Obi ,
@Obi@sopuli.xyz avatar

If you’re doing it right you should only drink water inside the club.

fidodo ,

There’s also the fact that games and Internet are a social option for your generation at all. Previous generations didn’t even have that option the same way. Even as a millennial it wasn’t nearly as accessible as it is now.

QuarterSwede ,
@QuarterSwede@lemmy.world avatar

For sure. My 8yr old plays with his friends on FaceTime and Roblox as soon as he gets up. In the winter online play is probably 75% of how they play. When the weather is better that changes to 25%.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Not in the same way, but I made a lot of friends on MUDs and local BBSes in the early 90s.

fidodo ,

Yeah there were options but they were not convenient or mainstream. When I was a kid I played online games with friends, but that involved calling them on a land line phone, logging into the Internet, which meant turning off your house phone for most people without dual phonelines, and no video call and text chat only.

GBU_28 ,

You’re supposed to walk in just sober enough to get past the bouncer, dance/flirt, maybe but a single drink, leave.

cmbabul , in A Vermont mom called police to talk to her son about stealing. He ended up handcuffed and sedated

Say it with me, All Cops Are Bastards

girlfreddy OP ,
@girlfreddy@lemmy.ca avatar

Always.

AtariDump , (edited )

All Carsalesmen Are Bastards. - Defund the dealerships.

All Firemen Are Drunks.

Edit: I know who the downvotes are from!

Vej , in 62% of Americans are still living paycheck to paycheck, making it ‘the main financial lifestyle,’ report finds

You know what would fix this? More military spending.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Well we certainly shouldn’t have a universal healthcare system that would lift people out of medical debt and not tie them to low-paying, menial jobs just to get health insurance.

Because something about invisible hands.

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

You’re getting dangerously close to sounding like you don’t support the troops!

IHadTwoCows ,

THE TROOOOOOOOPS!!!

lightnegative ,

Look, the oil rich countries arent going to discover freedom by themselves

partial_accumen , in House Speaker Mike Johnson says God will punish “depraved” U.S. because more teens identify as LGBTQ+

Johnson then wrote that he worries that “our culture has fallen so far” since the United States’ founding in 1776. “I fear America may be beyond redemption,” he adds.

Since 1776? The year of the signing of the Declaration of Independence? I would think America got quite a bit better since then. I can think of just a few things that have made it better like:

  • 1787 Creation and signing of the US Constitution including that 1st Amendment including the words "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."
  • 1865 13th Amendment abolished slavery in the United States
  • 1870 15th Amendment granting black men the right to vote.
  • 1920 19th Amendment to the Constitution granted women the right to vote and was ratified by the states

If Mike Johnson sees these things as a decline of the United States since the Declaration of Independence, he is saying he is seeing other besides white men gaining the ability to vote as a bad thing.

Republicans, your chosen Speaker of the House sees the Constitution of the United States as a negative thing!

aeronmelon ,

Back in the good ol’ days where you were committed to a mental institution if found masterbating.

bobs_monkey ,

Pretty sure in the 1700’s if they though you were cuckoo, they just strung you up from a tree

aeronmelon ,

Probably that, too.

The thing is about 20 years ago I toured a preserved colonial town in New England (I forget the name, it was in Virginia) and there was a book on display which was an inpatient log for a mental ward. And some of the entries’ reason for admission was “masterbation”.

UnpledgedCatnapTipper ,

By the way, New England is specifically the northeast states of Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island! Virginia was one of the English colonies but isn’t part of New England.

aeronmelon ,

Huh. TIL.

Why is that?

bobs_monkey ,

Because they were only engl-ish

Pips ,

It’s the name John Smith gave the area when he landed there that was later adopted by Pilgrims in Plymouth Colony who rode over on the Mayflower.

aeronmelon ,

Cool. I thought “New England” meant the original thirteen colonies. But I’m from the Midwest, so what do I know? ;)

SeaJ ,

Colonial Williamsburg?

aeronmelon ,

Good question, not sure. I don’t even remember what was nearby.

looks at some pictures

Could be, but then all English towns looked the same back then. I don’t remember any buildings quite that big though.

remus989 ,

If it was Virginia, it was either Jamestown or Williamsburg most likely.

lolcatnip ,

Bedlam Hospital opened in 1330.

SeaJ ,

Depends. If you were crazy and they thought you were harmful, then probably yes. They also had sanitariums.

It was also not densely populated. It was pretty easy to simply banish someone and they would just fuck off to be on their own.

clockwork_octopus ,

If you were a man. Women were committed over far less

CmdrShepard ,

I was just listening to the recent Behind the Bastards episodes on the Holy Roller cult from Oregon in 1900 and those motherfuckers were having women committed for refusing to wear a hat/cover their hair.

Dethedrus ,

Another wild ride from the good reverend doctor. These sex cults are just weird yet still so predictable. Outside of the pet and potential toddler burning.

acockworkorange ,

Now we get people doctorbating unpunished.

PhlubbaDubba ,

I mean tbf his ilk are really yearning for those articles of confederation days now that the tide on federation is beginning a grindingly slow turn against them

Something the sheer degree to which Millennials and Gen Z have embraced the cause of Palestine is probably putting into an extremely sharp focus as of late.

lolcatnip ,

When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

Syndic ,

If Mike Johnson sees these things as a decline of the United States since the Declaration of Independence, he is saying he is seeing other besides white men gaining the ability to vote as a bad thing.

Oh you know that’s exactly what he’s thinking!

MonkderZweite ,

When it got worse was when Nixon sold out the population in the 70ies.

fadingembers ,
@fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

He 100% believes that

Hyperreality , in Tesla's problems in Sweden are getting worse as dockworkers refuse to unload its EVs from ships

Tesla’s refusal to sign a collective wage agreement

I'm sorry, what?

Arrogance, ignorance and hubris.

It's a typical story at this point. American company comes to Europe, doesn't do its research, doesn't know how these things work over here, management in the US refuses to adapt, few years down the line they fuck off with their tail between their legs.

Staggeringly incompetent.

AmberPrince ,
@AmberPrince@kbin.social avatar

Tinfoil hat time: they do know. They are attempting to normalize the U.S. model in Europe to drive down labor costs.

DieguiTux8623 ,

Europe is treated as a colony of the US or, better said, the colonizer has become the colonized. And there’s some sort of justice to it.

vankappa ,

you’re being down voted but I think this might spark a good discussion. You expressed it in a provocative way but I also believe that the EU is subservient to the US for many things

Linkerbaan ,
@Linkerbaan@lemmy.world avatar

Well it’s not exactly the native Americans ruling America

clockwork_octopus ,

I fully believe this. Tesla has absolutely abysmal labor practices.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA ,
@HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world avatar

Everything musk touches. Why else does SpaceX have eight times the injury rate of other rocket companies?

Hyperreality ,

Reality check: others have tried. Others have failed.

interceder270 ,

Yeah, Europeans aren’t as stupid as Americans in this regard.

clutch ,

…and this is why conservatives in the UK pushed for Brexit

interceder270 ,

Britain has been living in our shadow ever since they lost the war.

honey_im_meat_grinding ,

The story of McDonalds in Denmark is a fun example of this if anyone wants to read. [1]

McDonalds decided not to follow the union agreement and thus set up its own pay levels and work rules instead. This was a departure, not just from what Danish companies did, but even from what other similar foreign companies did. For example, Burger King, which is identical to McDonalds in all relevant respects, decided to follow the union agreement when it came to Denmark a few years earlier.

In late 1988 and early 1989, the unions decided enough was enough and called sympathy strikes in adjacent industries in order to cripple McDonalds operations. Sixteen different sector unions participated in the sympathy strikes.

Dockworkers refused to unload containers that had McDonalds equipment in them. Printers refused to supply printed materials to the stores, such as menus and cups. Construction workers refused to build McDonalds stores and even stopped construction on a store that was already in progress but not yet complete. The typographers union refused to place McDonalds advertisements in publications, which eliminated the company’s print advertisement presence. Truckers refused to deliver food and beer to McDonalds. Food and beverage workers that worked at facilities that prepared food for the stores refused to work on McDonalds products.

Once the sympathy strikes got going, McDonalds folded pretty quickly and decided to start following the hotel and restaurant agreement in 1989.

This is why McDonalds workers in Denmark are paid $22 per hour.

[1] mattbruenig.com/…/when-mcdonalds-came-to-denmark/

bstix ,

Just for the record: McDonald’s, Burger King, Subway, KFC and Starbucks all have collective agreements in Denmark.

interceder270 ,

Once the sympathy strikes got going, McDonalds folded pretty quickly and decided to start following the hotel and restaurant agreement in 1989.

As fucking usual, the companies could have done this all along. They’re just going to give the least, while charging the most.

EmpathicVagrant ,

And even still, that $22 is vastly beneath the actual value of the labor provided.

GreenMario ,

…Beer?

HikingVet ,

Yeah, in countries that never had prohibition, they take a different view of alcohol. Mainly one that isn’t restrictive.

somedude ,

So why work there in the first place? Why bother with a strike? Quit and work some place with better conditions.

mosiacmango ,

Or you know, use your collective power to strike, following the model your country has based its economic rights around. Why should the workers give up their economic power to the company?

Tesla could also just follow the economic agreement that is considered fair in the area for that labor, the bare minimum contract. So odd that youre not complaining about them having poor conditions and breaking the nation’s norms.

It’s almost like both parties, Tesla and the unions, are now working in their best financial interests. Lets see which on e succeeds.

fneu ,

Someone will be desperate enough to work there. Now McDonald’s has a competitive advantage and other places will have to follow suit and then it‘s worse everywhere. It‘s amazing that there are places out there where regular people can actually influence anything.

somedude ,

Thanks for answering my question. This makes sense.

stolid_agnostic ,

Had that happen when working for Symantec in Argentina. They wouldn’t do cost of living adjustments to account for the 30% inflation so the government forced a union on us. All they asked for was to give us the same salary, accommodating for inflation–in the end, this comes to the same dollar amount per employee. As best I can tell, the business bros couldn’t understand inflation and exchange rates and they decided to simply lay off several hundred people and close their offices in the county entirely. Little did they know that you can’t do that in Argentina and pretty much every single person sued, myself included, and won two year’s salary, minus lawyer fees. If they had simply kept paying the same number of dollars to everyone, they’d have saved tens of millions of dollars.

intensely_human ,

And kept their business operations running

stolid_agnostic ,

Apparently they opened a new set of offices in Poland specifically because there are weak worker protections. My lawyer said he wouldn’t want to be an employer in Argentina because it’s so strict.

donuts , in Trump Amplifies Call for "Citizens Arrest" of Judge and Prosecutor in New York Civil Case
@donuts@kbin.social avatar

This dude gets more unhinged and desperate every passing day, but a huge chunk of Americans just can't see it. It's crazy.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

I think a lot of them do see it, but he pisses off the libs and seems to be promising to hurt the people they want to be hurt, so they are OK with that.

pete_the_cat ,

He’s literally Hitler, just without the genocide.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
@be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social avatar

There's still time.

Treczoks ,

Yet.

borf ,

Without the genocide

Are we just going to forget about the family separation border policies? Or the “it’s ok if grandma dies as long as we can go back to Outback Steakhouse again” treatment of COVID?

Amazinghorse ,

Just remember Hitler built up to that. He started off small just like trump is.

Buddahriffic ,

Also it wasn’t Hitler himself that architected the Holocaust. Him being in power gave power to even worse people. He was happy to go along with it, it just doesn’t look like he had any specific plans to actually exterminate the Jews when he was rising to power. So don’t think that Trump’s lack of any specific agenda means that such a thing won’t happen if he is in a position to enable it.

whofearsthenight ,

Stephen Miller

YodaDaCoda ,

Just without the genocide so far

whofearsthenight ,

Yeah, I mean, his agenda if he’s reelected is apparently a genocide, so I wouldn’t be counting any chickens here.

Illuminostro ,

Yet.

TechyDad ,
@TechyDad@lemmy.world avatar

For a way too large group, his being unhinged bigoted rants are a selling point, not a liability.

For way too many others, they don’t care about his unhinged rants because he’s pledging to hurt OTHER people, not them.

The former are bad, but aren’t enough to sweep Trump into power. The latter, though, could help Trump attain power and then will act shocked when they get targeted.

ObviouslyNotBanana , in Jeff Bezos Is Moving to Miami After 29 Years in Seattle
@ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world avatar

Ok

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

Only comment we really need imo

littlewonder ,

I think we can go even harder.

This might qualify for a 👍🏻, or going all-in with a: “k”. But idk, maybe we should save that for the next Elon headline.

EmpathicVagrant ,

Nah get belligerent about it and just drop a “Kay.”

Chickenstalker , in ‘Horrific’: 189 bodies found and removed from Colorado ‘green’ funeral home

Funeral homes are parasites. Families should prepare and bury their own, unembalmed with no casket. A dead body is the most biodegradable matter in nature. Why pump it full of formalin and doll it up like a tart? Mourn the life of the dead, not their physical body.

drolex ,

Preparing and burying your own is a recipe for cholera outbreak

deus ,

Easy fix: don’t bury people, just leave the bodies out in the open so scavengers can do their job.

Dkarma ,

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  • Jaytreeman ,

    Lost Redditor?
    The fediverse is largely positive. Let's keep it that way

    FlyingSquid ,
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    krellor ,

    But with what population density? I'm imagining NYC or LA county looking very different, lol.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Probably not good for New York, but it doesn’t spread disease where it’s practiced, which was my point.

    Deceptichum ,
    @Deceptichum@kbin.social avatar

    NY could probably get away with dumping them down the sewers for the giant rats to eat.

    Touching_Grass ,

    Why don’t we eat them or throw them in those huge car crushers and make a YouTube channel of it.

    krellor ,

    That's fair. Personally, I'm all for donate organs to save people -> body to science -> (cremation of remains ashes to family OR industrial/forest compost). It scales and solves problems.

    SoylentBlake ,

    Bodies for science usually ends up with the military buying the corpse and then testing out ordinance.

    I’m not kidding.

    krellor ,

    You can specify the organization to receive your body, though some have prescreening.

    Generally speaking, bodies donated to science don't end up being tested with ordinance. The consent waiver limits how the body can be used and is generally narrowed to medical research. One example where this didn't happen was here and the company founder was tried for fraud.

    My suggestion for people is to find an organization that directly accepts donated bodies and go through their prescreening to bypass the body broker business.

    JJROKCZ ,

    Tibetans and mongols don’t invest the same toxic chemicals and plastics Americans do, they also don’t need to bury a thousand people a day like America does

    Touching_Grass ,

    Is your idiot brain getting fucked by stupid

    Dkarma ,

    I can’t hear you over the sound of ur mom

    Touching_Grass ,
    drolex ,

    GOOD point

    Bgugi ,

    Sky burial!

    Wrench ,

    I unironically would love a sky burial. Vultures can digest anything. Chop me up, drive me out to the mountains and let the vultures shit me out. Seems better than the alternatives.

    Socsa ,

    Great, now we have prions

    8BitRoadTrip ,

    braaaaaiiiinnnzzzzzzz 🧟‍♂️

    jarfil ,

    We already have microplastics coming down with the rain, what’s a few prions on top of that.

    mbp ,
    @mbp@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

    Idk why this killed me

    echodot ,

    Yeah prions do that

    snail ,

    scavengers would die of toxicity from NSAIDs, chemo drugs, and whatever else modern humans load up on before their death. This already happened in places known for sky burials

    roguetrick ,

    Cholera more requires the living and untreated water. Palestine is a recipe for a cholera outbreak. You'd need some spread among the living before the corpses become a real vector.

    E coli maybe, but once again, only with untreated water.

    For the most part, corpses don't really spread a lot of disease other than whatever killed them.

    aniki ,

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  • Dkarma ,

    This is the answer. It’s a pollution issue as much as a mortician issue.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    There is this clothing donation dumpster thing by my work that has a couch infront of it. It’s pretty clear to me what happened. Someone brought it, noticed the sign that says no furniture donations, and decided that it wasn’t his problem.

    It would be pretty much like that. Find random bodies everywhere.

    echodot ,

    This couch looks comfy, let’s put grandad there. No one will notice, put some sunglasses on him.

    Mirshe ,

    Or just plain old burying a person too shallow. Not a huge problem now, but it’ll be a problem when coyotes and vultures and other scavengers dig the corpse up.

    CascadianGiraffe ,

    FR tho

    It’s somehow three times the work to bury them a second time. Plus you always get stuck fixing during the day.

    Remember kids, if you think you dug the hole deep enough, you didn’t.

    AlexisFR ,
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    Are you out of your mind?

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    Fun fact. It’s completely legal and ok to take possession of your loved one, provided you are their legal next of kin, and you can effectively bury them yourselves. Find someone on Craigslist that can throw together a pine box and rent out an excavator for a weekend and you can bury grandma for a fraction of the cost.

    I have loaded a corpse into the bed of a pickup truck. We have sat bodies upright in the back of a suburban. All of this is completely legal so long as you don’t cross state lines and even then you just need a permit.

    Each state handles it differently but largely this is the same wherever you go.

    Spend the 5k to 10k on a nice trip to Vegas, Grammy would have wanted it that way.

    zerofk ,

    “Everywhere you go” inside this one count you’re talking about. Maybe.

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Is it legal to have a Viking funeral where you’re set adrift in a longboat and someone fires a flaming arrow at it and it goes down on fire? Asking for a friend.

    Talaraine ,
    @Talaraine@kbin.social avatar

    Your friend is not the first to ask this xD

    SoylentBlake ,

    No. Not an any state when I looked into it a decade ago

    That being said, sometimes it’s easier to ask forgiveness than permission, if you get me.

    collegefurtrader ,

    My dad said he wants this. I can’t be sure if he’s serious, but I am.

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    That’s actually a great question and I don’t know the answer. It might not be permitted because of concerns about disposing of remains and whatnot but again each state is different with their laws.

    Personally I want a sky burial but I don’t think I’d be able to sell that to my family.

    SheDiceToday ,

    My dad helped with a ‘burial at sea’ thing. I’m sure they had some sort of permit, because it was a real to-do with a big casket weighted down so it would sink and such. The story goes that the weights weren’t enough to sink it, and the casket ended up being air tight, so they shot a few holes in it to let air out and water in. I’m pretty sure they did it in international waters.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Oh God he is coming back up! Open fire! Machine gunning the casket

    vaultdweller013 ,

    Muffled “Kono Dio Da”

    stolid_agnostic ,

    You can also just not claim grandma’s body and let your tax dollars handle it at an even bigger bargain.

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    You are absolutely correct sort of. After ten days we notify the state that nobody has claimed the body. They will then take upwards of 3 months and look into all of their family and known associates. I suspect if you are well off and don’t have a good reason to refuse to pay for a funeral they are going to put the pressure on you to do so. But I don’t know that there’s a legal Avenue for them to force you to do so. They can carve up that persons estate to pay for it and I think most people have a general quantity of things and money they can pull from. But yeah if that person has nothing and you say no, yah probably you’re gettin off.

    Your grandma will rot the whole time. We have to open those bags to confirm who is inside anytime they change hands so I get to see the remnants of that and u know it is what it is. Mostly it’s homeless people and that’s just the expected process. But occasionally there’s families that just won’t do it and I mean I’m not one to blame them. Even the cheapest traditional options are thousands of dollars.

    Fascinating industry though. It’s not my primary job but you have to learn the funeral business to function with those sorts. They’re my favorite. They’re all a little fucked up in their own way. Some a lot of way.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    My family is under orders to abandon my body and let me rot.

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    That’s cool. They can’t and won’t. But I think it’s pretty straightforward for most middleish class people to set aside a few thousand to cover their disposal. You don’t even have to specifically set that money aside. You set it aside when you collect baseball cards or limited edition Mountain Dew code zero call of duty custom 2 liters.

    Just let your family carve up your bullshit and sell it to stupid drunk people.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    lol so cute of you to assume that I have or ever will acquire anything of value or have savings. My only real goal in life is to not end up homeless before I die

    FraidyBear ,

    It’s illegal almost everywhere in the US to have a “natural” burial. There are laws on containers, treatment, and where the deceased can be buried. Dead bodies, while very biodegradable are also toxic and tend to get dug up and parts drug around by animals, up rooted by trees, or dug up during construction after the property is bought out. I do agree that funeral homes are soulless vultures who fleece people in mourning though, the last “fuck you” from capitalism.

    Mobiuthuselah ,

    Are you sure natural burial is illegal?

    FraidyBear ,

    Yes and no, it’s not a black and white issue. I didn’t really want to go all in on the topic because it’s Googleable. My grandpa recently passed and it’s very expensive, we were looking for alternatives. On a federal level natural burial is allowed. The states take matters into their own hands. Some require burial vaults, some require embalming, some require that natural burials only happen in very specific places, and some require a mix of those things. It’s doable but if they can squeeze money out of you through laws or extreme inconvenience, they will. It’s not as easy and just picking a spot and burying a loved one, in a lot of cases.

    Mobiuthuselah ,

    First of all, sorry to hear what you’re going through.

    In regards to natural burial, my understanding is that it’s more legal than not, just that there’s regulations depending on where you live. It’s very rare that embalming is required by law. Burial vaults are typically required when embalming fluids are used to slow the spread of the fluids to waterways. Neither of these are considered part of a natural burial.

    There’s a lot smoke and mirrors in the funeral industry that has led to wide misconceptions and outright misinformation. I asked if you were sure because the points you made are generally what a traditional burial funeral home would tell a client to steer them more towards their products. It’s awful that it’s become common for funeral homes to prey on those that are grieving. Absolutely despicable.

    I hope y’all find a way that honors your grandpa without causing additional stress.

    JJROKCZ ,

    I’m not the guy that you’re responding too but I’ll add my anecdote.

    There was a somewhat off his rocker dude in my hometown that lived with his mom, she died, he didn’t notify anyone, buried her on his land (owned 15-20 acres or so, nothing large) and didn’t tell anyone. A few months go by and she obviously misses doctor appointments, church, etc so police check in. Then the guy says “oh yeah she died, I buried her, no biggie”. Turns out he violated a few laws doing this so he got some light jail time, she got exhumed, investigated to make sure she wasn’t murdered, then buried in a graveyard.

    I lived fairly close to all this being in the same county and learned that in Illinois at least, you can’t just bury your dead, you have to go through some processes.

    Mobiuthuselah ,

    That’s right, there’s is a process. You can’t just bury people without reporting the death and going through some sort of process. That’s a good bit different from an actual natural burial even if at face value he did bury her naturally lol. That’s wild. I’ve heard of that happening in my region in the southern Appalachians too.

    SheDiceToday ,

    I’ll give you one better. I once found a dude who had been chucked in a garbage pile by his son. This was out in the deep country, so lots of land and most people had a burn pile or area they chucked garbage. It was pretty cold, so the body didn’t decompose very much, but there he was, laying on the ground with trash bags and various household debris piled up on top of him. The son had wrapped him with some fitted sheets. It was wild.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    They are wrong. One of my family members works in the industry. Wood biodegradable caskets are perfectly legal in all states.

    at_an_angle ,

    I’ve looked it up years ago. In my state, you don’t need embalmed, a vault, or anything really. You can throw a fresh body into the ground in a handmade pine box if you want.

    I think the only restriction is an approved site for burial.

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    What constitutes a natural burial? At a cursory glance there are only about 5 states that don’t permit home burials and many of those just say it has to be in a cemetery, but you can apply for a family cemetery on your property and it’s completely legal.

    In Virginia and West Virginia at least there are no requirements whatsoever that you use a casket or bury them to any specific depth. I’d suspect that if you were disrespecting grandma and threw her in the garbage you would be breaking desecration of remains laws but doing a legitimate burial at home is completely fine.

    I can only speak to the laws of my state and those around me, and I suppose local municipalities might have differing laws, but it’s pretty open ended. You do not need a funeral home involved at all and frankly given how expensive these things are I totally support families that go that route.

    rckclmbr , (edited )

    I wish I could have a sky burial but I’m pretty sure theres nowhere in the US that could happen. And it would freak my wife out. I think the best option is aquamation (or hopefully recomposting since it was just legalized in california), since I can’t have a sky burial

    RaincoatsGeorge ,

    I’ve said the same thing for years. One day my wishes will be honored!

    pg_sax_i_frage ,

    Well, you coild probably arrange for the soil/compost, resulting from that teconposting, to be used to grow some grain (or other native plants that might appeal to the local wildlife) , and then those could be fed to some birds 🐦 🐦 🐦, perhaps on a mountaintop 🌄, even. (i remember a story told at, I think this wasduring kne session at the ‘body composting conference’, about some peo friend and family who were left soil depositing some of it some quite remote places.) You could make a wole ceremony out of it, if that was desired.

    It’s a few extra steps, but maybe somewhat of a similar result, in a certain sense. And then the extra steps could give extra time for the grieving orocess, and link with the whole cycles of life thing, you know.

    Anyway, that’s just an idea. Hope you, and everyone, can find one that works for you, and find a way to have itgise wishes fulfilled later on. The option thts offered by recompose is cool, more options can certainly be good.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Little of this is true. You can buy a wood casket, embalming is optional. Where you bury yes is regulated but maybe the rest of us don’t want to drink corpse water.

    Blueberrydreamer ,

    All water is corpse water, has been for billions of years.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Are you being pedantic or do you not know simple understanding that drinking water with dead bodies rotting in it is a bad idea?

    the_third ,

    Families should prepare and bury their own, unembalmed with no casket.

    Half the people I meet in a day, I’m not certain how they manage to leave the house in the morning without accident.

    There would be a lot of dead people lying around and 180kg grandma seeping into the creek running by.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Embalming is optional and always has been. You can purchase biodegradable caskets and again that was always been an option. Open caskets are by family request and often aren’t even an option.

    I also saw Adam Ruins everything.

    papertowels , (edited )

    What happens if you don’t own land?

    Wait…You… You are saying to only bury your dead on your own land, right?

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    sheogorath ,

    If you don’t own land then you’re not a real citizen /s

    echodot ,

    It’s actually illegal in most countries to bury a dead body without alerting your authorities and usually there are restrictions on where you can do it.

    You can of course just cremate the body, you don’t have to go with a cemetery.

    stolid_agnostic ,

    It turns out that humans and their pets are horrible for the environment because we’re just filled with chemicals from medication, cosmetics, and food. We’re not living our natural best anymore.

    tdawg , in Mother gets 30-day sentence for waterboarding baby, putting him in freezer, authorities say

    30 days??

    pineapplelover ,

    Maybe the judge mistakingly put days instead of years

    ApeNo1 ,

    I am assuming she is serving those 30 days in a freezer.

    Knusper ,

    Yeah, reading the article, I expected it to say that it was only 30 days, because they realized, she has psychological problems. Punishment doesn’t usually help with that. But I also expected this article to say that the baby will be taken into custody by the state until therapy concedes. And there’s just no mention of any of that.

    Shou ,

    A shit reason. She needa to be thrown in an insane asylum for 30 years. See if that helps her psychologucal problem.

    Ubermeisters , (edited )

    Sounds like you need to take a trip there first buddy. Maybe learn how to spell on the way, jarjar

    ABCDE ,

    Because that’s what we should be doing with people who are mentally ill? Take a look at yourself.

    TheGrandNagus ,

    And what will that actually achieve? Beyond costing a fuckload of money and satisfying those that get their dicks hard at the thought of human suffering?

    rifugee ,

    Or we could, I don’t know, maybe try to treat her? I would rather live in a world where we treated all mentally ill people, even dangerous ones, with compassion than one where we just lock them up and throw away the key. I personally think that we, as a society, have a moral responsibility to lift each other up, but even if you look at it from a selfish point of view, it still makes sense. For example, it’s possible that someday, you might have a mental break, maybe due to a tragic event or brutal experience, and will need help and wouldn’t you rather be treated kindly rather than being locked away and forgotten about?

    Shou ,

    I never said you shouldn’t provide mental health care. I just doubt she’d stop being a threat after a mere 30 days.

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