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Drusas , in NYC Black Residents Die From Heat Stress At Double The Rate Of White Residents, Report Says

I would bet that this is due to systemic problems which lead black residents to have fewer economic opportunities than white residents do. But hey, that's crazy progressive talk.

LdyMeow , in Toddler, 2, dies after shooting himself while left alone in a Walmart parking lot as his parents shopped for fireworks

Im sorry, what?

LdyMeow ,

Also what? The grandmother started a gofundme to pay for the funeral costs, so ‘the parents can grieve’?

can ,

Idiots or not they still grieve.

dactylotheca ,
@dactylotheca@suppo.fi avatar

Yeah I definitely don’t get the “what” factor in that.

Funerals aren’t free and they might not have the money for it, so not having to pay for it would take some burden off them. Yes, they did something incredibly stupid but they’ve already paid an incalculable price for it.

LdyMeow ,

Yeah, i get that, was a knee jerk to just such a messed up story.

I mean though there is idiot and then… well. Like a loaded cocked gun in the car… with a toddler alone? Like even just leaving the kid in the car alone is bad, but then there are so many more layers.

dactylotheca ,
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Oh yeah, everything about it is stupid, no question about that, but 🤷

kent_eh ,

Hopefully they spend some time reflecting on every one of their stupid choices that led to this outcome.

itsgroundhogdayagain , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

Wait til you see what happens in another 7 months

Brkdncr , in ‘New York learning about trash cans in 2024 is an insane flex’: Eric Adams trolled over wheelie bins ‘trash revolution’

Why has it taken this long to deal with their own trash?

proctonaut ,

Because New Jersey has always been right there.

masterspace , (edited )

The bins don’t actually travel all the way to New Jersey, they stay on the street in front of your building, they’re just to prevent having massive piles of garbage lining every single New York street, every single week.

SpacePirate ,

They stay on the street in front of your building

You mean like every other municipality in the United States?

masterspace ,

Yes! Just like that! It’s a crazy new New York invention!

KevonLooney ,

Yeah, NYC is the only place in the US that didn’t have these. I believe it was a union or mafia thing. Basically the trucks that pick up bags of trash require 3 workers and the ones that pick up the trash cans only require 2. That’s why they didn’t exist. It’s stupid.

pleb_maximus ,

Huh?!?

I mean technically you can get away with just a driver and someone picking up the trash cans.
But over here they usually are still three people with those trucks. One driver and two people picking up the trash cans, one bringing a fresh one while the other puts it back.

Vorticity ,

The ones where I am only have one person. The truck has an arm to pick up the bins and dump them into the top of the truck.

nilloc ,

This works in single family housing, but in the city there are waaaaay more bins at each stop.

Also the garbage bag companies Glad I think, paid it make the old metal cans like Oscar’s go away so they could sell more plastic.

I think it was after a strike by the garbage men over the condition of the metal cans. I listened to a podcast about it a while ago but can’t remember which one.

Vorticity ,

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. The trucks with the arms would be unpractical in a city where bins are more closely spaced.

pleb_maximus ,

We have those too. But they are for the big metal cans for paper and glass.

Those wheeled plastic bins are usually collected by something like this:

https://www.haufe.de/image/muellabfuhr-517150-1.jpg

Vorticity ,

Ah, we have a separate plastic bin for mixed recycling so no issues there for us. Like someone else said, these probably are slower than an additional person when you have tons of bins like you would in a city.

pleb_maximus ,

Oh, we have a plastic bin for paper too. Although I think not every house has that. But they all have a separate bin for plastics and metal.

The huge cans I meant are something like this:

https://bilder.deutschlandfunk.de/FI/LE/_9/cf/FILE_9cf76fb31731c6127ae53a490f905a0c/47706193-jpg-100-1920x1080.jpg

Fuck huge and still always full. They are extra and don’t belong to a specific house but are on the street for everyone instead.

n0m4n ,

Our little burg has one person pick up the trash. Trash bins are passed out by the city. The bins are specially built for mechanical pick-up. The driver stops, the arms come out, grab and dump the bin. Then the bin is set down, and the truck continues its route.

One set of trucks are for recycle, one set are for organics to grind and compost, and a third is for trash. Our family’s weekly trash usually fits in one grocery bag.

CptEnder ,

Real answer: NYC has such insane amount of residential trash that it’s actually more efficient to have someone (usually a super) just prepare the trash in specifically designed industrial bags on the curb 2x week. Like the amount is so large no single bin like this could manage any amount of trash, so they don’t even bother loading bins they just process the bags directly into the garbage trucks. My building actually has like 15 bins like these where we can store our trash for the off days and our super sorts it all when the collection comes - they’re all usually full 2x week.

So switching to a bin only system would be require either more collection days (an insane amount of spending SDNY is tax dollars) or we’re just gonna get overflow trash on the street in shitty, easy to break homeuse bags. For reference there’s zero trash on my street unless it’s collection day and the city designated bags for those are pretty much indestructible and rarely spill trash.

Mouselemming ,

Except rats have been chewing through the bags, hence the bins. Knowing NYC rats they will probably learn to chew into the bins too, though. Having put-out time and pick-up time closer together would/will make more impact on the rat problem, imho

imaqtpie , (edited )
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But there’s no practical way to enforce when people put out their trash.

I may have been in NYC for too long, but I honestly don’t even see how rats are a problem anyway. They generally just scavenge garbage and do their own thing. They’re in a similar category to pigeons.

Plus, they are presumably a critical food source for alley cats. I happened to stumble upon a newborn litter of alley kittens a few weeks ago. The mother must have been away hunting.

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/415faf61-13fc-4902-8c15-b9281c6ff332.jpeg

So you’re basically murdering these little kittens if you decimate the rat population in NYC by preventing them from eating our trash. You sick fucks. /s

Mouselemming , (edited )

Those babies are still little enough, if they and mom are trapped, she can be TNR and they can be socialized and adopted!

Restaurants have a specific time they put out their bags, which is several hours before the trucks actually come around. I don’t remember the numbers but there was an article about it, probably in the NYT because I subscribe for the games despite living in LA. (We use cans and Dumpsters here. Still haven’t got the whole compost thing figured out, though.)

Anyway, see if there’s a TNR organization that can foster those sweet fluffballs!

CptEnder ,

AWWW the babies! My big guy was a bedstuy street cat, so glad I got him.

CptEnder ,

Haha yeah true, I just factor in the rats as part of the population of the city.

Viking_Hippie , (edited )

have someone (usually a super) just prepare the trash in specifically designed industrial bags

This sounds like a job for Garbage Bag Man! heroic theme music swells

son_named_bort ,

Can’t someone else do it?

Viking_Hippie ,
masterspace ,

Lots of cities have residential towers and have massive truck sized bins and/or compacting bins to deal with it. The big difference with New York is that it’s towers were built before they seriously considered how to pickup and manage garbage so there isn’t space for loading docks and alleys and the other infrastructure you need for that.

CptEnder ,

Yeah that’s definitely true for the large high rises. Was referring to mostly walkups and brownstones.

Draegur , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

good.

choices have consequences.

no one who endorses a psychotic dictator should ever be allowed to feel comfortable in life.

MindTraveller ,

Psychosis refers to a mental state characterised by hallucinations and paranoid delusions. Are you saying Trump hears voices in his head he thinks are real?

Draegur ,

a not inaccurate description of his behaviors.

especially the paranoid delusions.

his constant professing of what “people” “say” “to him”, especially particularly absurd things that there is no evidence anyone has ever said to him, would also technically meet the definition of him hearing voices - IF he is not lying. Which, to be fair, he could be, because he lies about a lot of shit all the time.

Impossible to rule out. Looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, swims like a duck. I’m no ornithologist but heuristically speaking treating the proverbial duck-like phenomenon as though it is a duck coincides with a statistically high probability of ideal results.

MindTraveller ,

I don’t think Trump’s delusions are paranoid. In fact, he’s remarkably unbothered given the very real dangers he faces. If he suffers from delusions, I would say they’re the opposite - confident delusions.

psvrh , (edited ) in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
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Apparently, Jews for Hitler are also having some trouble. They’re commiserating with the black members of the KKK and the Association of Marxist-Leninist Landlords.

timewarp , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives
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I can understand people disagreeing with them, but kicking sand and attacking people is literally the actions of fascist too. You don’t win people over by attacking them.

Today ,

That sounds like the right answer, but really, I’d be right there kicking sand.

Passerby6497 ,

You don’t prevent your bar from becoming a nazi bar by asking nicely though.

timewarp ,
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So what’s the plan then? You going to punch the other side in the face to win their votes and show them how anti-fascist you are?

Passerby6497 ,

You make it clear they’re not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they’ve shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they’ve changed.

I’ve been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.

timewarp ,
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Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?

Passerby6497 ,

Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!

timewarp ,
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  • davidagain ,

    Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn’t the same as kicking them out of the state.

    Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That’s what the slippery slope fallacy is.

    They saw no point in debating your exaggerated question because it was so different to their position.

    They showed that they understood your debating technique better than you showed.

    timewarp ,
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    No, they showed that they wanted to engage in fascist behavior against a majority of voters right (according to polls).

    davidagain ,

    If you put a paedophile in charge of the country, none of our children are safe.

    timewarp , (edited )
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    I had planned on voting for Biden, but seeing how much Democrats are lying and gaslighting I’m actually thinking about staying home at this point. But you must know, even Biden has a history of questionable behavior with kids, sniffing them, touching them inappropriately, and it appears (according to Snopes) that Ashley Biden wrote about him showering with her and confirmed the diary to be hers in court.

    Furthermore, Trump has not been found guilty of being a pedophile. Democrats had 4 years to bring up charges on Trump being a pedo. They did not do it. Biden doesn’t call Trump a pedo. It is the Democrat voters grasping at straws who are in a cult making accusations rather than presenting policy because they lack intelligence. There is also this:

    theguardian.com/…/donald-trump-sexual-assault-law…

    Even more proof that the Katie Johnson story stinks and the media doesn’t report on it, cause they already investigated it and determined it lacked credibility:

    vox.com/…/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-jo…

    There are others too:

    huffpost.com/…/donald-trump-rape-case_n_581a31a5e…

    Trump may be a pedophile, but to prove that you need a trial and evidence.

    davidagain ,

    Your double standards are striking (across multiple conversations here). In this case you’ve concluded that a girl who got death threats for bringing a case against Trump withdrew, not because of the death threats, but because she was lying, and you’ve equated smelling hair with rape.

    I once said that I thought that a politician who is famous for some pretty racist policies was probably trying to do the right thing in an admittedly stupidly foolish way on a separate issue, and people got very cross with me online for defending her, but it never once made me inclined to vote for her, that would be idiotic, so I simply don’t believe for a minute you were thinking of voting for Biden. If you want to claim you were prepared to vote for Biden, go on, what was it that made you think he would be a better president than trump?

    timewarp ,
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    The reasons I was inclined to vote for Biden is because I am agnostic. I support LGBTQ+ rights. I want to see the government providing more safety nets for people. Trump helped foster the environment for the Jan 6. insurrection. I’m not considering staying home to help Trump win. I’m considering staying home because Democrats actions lately have been gaslighting and lying. The state I’m in is not a swing state.

    davidagain ,

    You claim Democrats are the ones gaslighting and lying?!

    timewarp ,
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    That’s what I said, yes. The ones gaslighting about Biden right now are.

    davidagain ,

    What do you think gaslighting means, and how far do you feel you’ve been gaslit?

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  • timewarp ,
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    So 30% support fascism according to you, but come elections over 40% are expected to vote for Trump. Who are the other 10%? Are the people voting for RFK Jr. fascist? Would that mean over 50% of Americans are fascist? Do you expect 39% to win in a war against over 50%?

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  • timewarp ,
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    According to these facts you present, what you’re suggesting here is is that the following time periods in American history we were ruled by fascists and everyone that voted for those Presidents were fascists?

    2017-2021 2001-2009 1989-1993 1981-1989 1974-1977 1969-1974

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  • timewarp ,
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    Your argument is that everyone who votes for the Republican (Trump presumably in this case) is fascist, is it not?

    Icalasari ,

    He's been popping up a lot. He argues in bad faith. Likely a paid troll

    TallonMetroid ,
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    Maybe if fascists got their faces punched in more often they’d understand that getting punched in the face sucks and that maybe they shouldn’t advocate for punching people in the face in the first place.

    timewarp ,
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    Was Biden voting against same-sex marriages and gay people serving in the military a fascist once? Will Democrats call Biden a recovered fascist?

    wreckedcarzz ,
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    You once were a child, making poor decisions. Are you still that way? (waves at the rest of the crowd to hold their comments) No? Would you look at that then, it’s like people are capable of growing and learning.

    So, you fuck that bullshit narrative here and now, past and future actions don’t mean shit. People change for better or worse, and you don’t sit on your ass and point fingers because past or promises, but by current actions, things occurring here and now.

    And right the fuck now there’s only one realistic option for the LGBT+ community in the states, so I don’t particularly give a damn what the fuck happened decades ago. If you’re still stuck in the past, might want to reflect on that. The rest of us have bigger shit to worry about.

    timewarp ,
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    If you’re worried about LGBTQ+ community then you’d be advocating for Biden to step down.

    Gigagoblin ,
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    hi, am part of said community. i’ll gladly punch a fascist in the face for being fascist. it’s like a cancer, essentially; you give it any room to breathe & it will take over the whole thing. just look at what happened to the skinhead movement. but, yeah, they want us dead or in camps anyway & civil discussion obviously doesn’t work when fascist philosophy only works if everyone involved is actively playing dumb & as such, not playing by the same rules as everyone else.

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  • Gigagoblin , (edited )
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    yeah & i’ll see you banned eventually, just like all the other prominent bad faith actors here. you’re not half as special or clever as you think you are.

    e : i love you had to slip in some BLM misinfo there. i’m not even from the US lol

    timewarp ,
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    Is that your reaction to deal with people not in the cult, to ban them… silence them even? Good thing you’re not from Palestine, or you’d be wondering why Biden is helping kill children.

    eldavi , (edited )

    it’s like people are capable of growing and learning.

    except biden didn’t learn or grow; he has a long history of going with the status quo and the status quo currently says that gays are okay and if gays were not okay tomorrow with the status quo; biden would tow that line as well.

    and i wish i had your privilege of ignoring the recent past; we’ve learned from it because it was so painful and we’re still trying to recover.

    Feathercrown ,

    You don’t, but at this point if they haven’t chosen the correct side it’s kind of on them.

    timewarp ,
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    So you attack them & tell them it is their fault that you’re attacking them? Kind of like how an abuser would blame the abused?

    Feathercrown ,

    Your analogy assumes innocence. In fact, it’s so strained that I have to believe you’re operating in bad faith here, or made a lapse in judgement.

    timewarp ,
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    It assumes that you’re the instigator of physical violence.

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  • timewarp ,
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    So do you have a link or somewhere I can learn more about your domestic terrorist organization?

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  • timewarp ,
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    So you keep this information stored on your local computer? Isn’t it dangerous?

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  • timewarp ,
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    Who am I jerking off here?

    davidagain ,

    The rest of the conversation is missing, but you seem to be looking for volunteers to be jerked off by you?

    timewarp ,
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    No the person that removed their comments advocating for violent activities said I should find someone else to jerk off.

    davidagain ,

    You were jerking them off for advocating violence? That is one weird kink you’ve got there.

    timewarp ,
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    No I was advocating against it. I assume you know that. Do not lie about me and make things up.

    davidagain ,

    You would never stoop so low as to deliberately misinterpret someone online? Not even it it was funny?

    timewarp ,
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    Not that I’m aware of.

    davidagain ,

    You make it clear they’re not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they’ve shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they’ve changed.

    I’ve been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.

    Where do they go? Do you propose that America has red states where only conservatives should live & blue states where liberals can live? Do you want to put over half of voters in concentration camps?

    This you?

    Regarding your lack of awareness:

    Oh no, the slipperiest of slopes attached to nothing but pure conjecture! I will never be hungry again with all of the words you just put into my mouth!

    You don’t think this was an attempt to raise awareness of your deliberate misinterpretation?

    Their point was that kicking someone out of a small club isn’t the same as kicking them out of the state.

    Your exaggeration of their point is what made it bad, not the point itself. That’s what the slippery slope fallacy is.

    You’re still unaware that you misinterpreted them online?!

    timewarp ,
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    I didn’t misinterpret them. Is it not true that over 40% of voters support Trump and that they are accusing Trump supporters of being fascist. Where do you expect those people to go if you think you’ll just kick them out of the communities where they live?

    davidagain ,

    You did misinterpret them. What kind of a community has a meeting to exclude folks for anti LGBT views? I tell you this, it wasn’t a housing project or a city, certainly not a state, it was surely a support group or similar. Your reading comprehension cannot be this bad.

    timewarp ,
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    You’re being disingenuous and inventing narratives. Why don’t you go ahead and post permalinks to where you claim I misinterpreted them. They weren’t taking about a small club. They were talking about kicking Trump supporters out of their communities.

    davidagain ,

    They said:

    You make it clear they’re not welcome in the community, by force if necessary, and you let them back in once they’ve shown they can be trusted to be a member of the community again. IF they show they’ve changed.

    I’ve been on a committee of people making this decision more than once. Rarely do people change enough to be welcomed back. Community self policing is the only way to really protect yourself when the government shows they wont.

    Again, what kind of a community has a meeting to exclude folks for anti LGBT views? I tell you this, it wasn’t a housing project or a city, certainly not a state, it was surely a support group or similar.

    You posted your “where do you think they’ll go if they’re kicked out of where they live” straight under that quote. Like, directly under it. The previous time you read that as being kicked out of their state, again, directly underneath.

    I don’t know, maybe when you hear people criticise conservatives it makes you so mad that you don’t read what they actually write. I find it hard to come up with other rational explanations for your statements.

    timewarp ,
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    Again, you’re being disingenuous. I asked for you to permalink to my comments. People can then look at the context and see for themselves that you’re a liar. The individual I responded to was clearly under the impression that all Trump supporters are fascist and should be removed from the communities from which they live and reside.

    davidagain , (edited )

    You’re being disingenuous. I’ve pasted exactly what they wrote, twice, and it’s only yesterday they said it. I’ve noticed that the moderators delayed some of your comments, but you and I know I’m not lying about your response. You’re denying they said what they said because I didn’t give you your precious hyperlink. Everyone can see you’re not arguing in good faith.

    memfree ,
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    Reminds me of a piece that is gone – but the below rephrase comes from here: mstdn.social/

    “The Paradox of Tolerance disappears if you look at tolerance, not as a moral standard, but as a social contract.

    If someone does not abide by the contract, then they are not covered by it.

    In other words: The intolerant are not following the rules of the social contract of mutual tolerance.

    Since they have broken the terms of the contract, they are no longer covered by the contract, and their intolerance should NOT be tolerated.”

    davidagain ,

    I like that. That’s a helpfully consistent way of framing it.

    iiGxC , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

    “When Trump won, my husband was so upset he wanted me out of our apartment. The rage was unexplainable — I mean honest rage. I could not understand this emotion in him and why anyone would let a political vote destroy or nearly destroy a marriage,” he said.

    if you vote for someone who’d like to make your marriage illegal, it’s gonna strain the marriage duuude

    wreckedcarzz ,
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    “but I just don’t understand that” -that dumbass

    Blackmist ,

    Reminds me of my sister-in-law’s husband, who fell heavily into Brexit propaganda. Ranting about foreigners coming over, to his wife’s face. She was from Iceland.

    They’re divorced now, oddly enough.

    NatakuNox , (edited )
    @NatakuNox@lemmy.world avatar

    It’s just the none white foreigners he was mad about, dude should have clarified his position…

    TheRealKuni ,

    It’s just the none white foreigners he was mad about, dude should have clarified his position…

    I dunno, Brexiters seemed to have a lot of trouble with the Polish.

    catloaf ,

    “White” has a very flexible definition depending on the racism du jour. In the US, plenty of Europeans, like Irish, Spanish, and Italian people weren’t considered “white” for a long time.

    But now we’ve got plenty of brown and black people to be even more racist against, so they get to be “white” these days.

    TheRealKuni ,

    Well of course. Race is a social construct, how we define races depends entirely on the society and its prejudices.

    Blackmist ,

    Don’t forget them “Romanian” Gypsies!

    It’s a crying shame really, because if they’d sat down and spoke to a Romanian, they’d find that hatred of gypsies is one of the few things they’ve got in common.

    eldavi ,

    I dunno, Brexiters seemed to have a lot of trouble with the Polish.

    there have been many examples and treatises of how the whiteness was/is non-uniform in the united states; is the same true in england?

    lolcatnip ,

    Option 1: Use coded language that directly attacks your spouse.
    Option 2: Openly admit to being a hardcore racist.

    Sucks to suck.

    ImADifferentBird ,
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    I’ve had a lot of people pull the “It’s just politics, why are you so mad?” card, especially after Trump won. Just shows this is all a game to them, that they do not give a shit about the consequences of their actions.

    Most of the ones who did it to me were straight white people though, so they were insulated by their privilege. It takes a whole other level of delusion to play that game when you’re one of the minorities these assholes target.

    eldavi , (edited )

    Most of the ones who did it to me were straight white people though, so they were insulated by their privilege. It takes a whole other level of delusion to play that game when you’re one of the minorities these assholes target.

    insulated by their privilege is the right phrase; i was fucked over multiple times by biden et al’s banning of gays from marriage & federal service and student loans, but if you mention it now you get labeled as a tankie or russian/chinese shill; only the younger gays and the people who biden et al. hasn’t fucked over get to enjoy this privilege while people in my situation have to forget or white knuckle it.

    ImADifferentBird ,
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    Agreed. A lot of those views seem to have genuinely softened as he aged (after all, he actively championed gay marriage during the Obama admin), but still, there is a lot of unsavory shit from his time as a senator, and it does take a lot of effort to reconcile that.

    eldavi ,

    A lot of those views seem to have genuinely softened as he aged (after all, he actively championed gay marriage during the Obama admin)

    he also actively campaigned on appeasing segregationists in his much more recent campaign until kamala had to embarrass him publicly in a debate; so no, those views haven’t softened as evidenced by both biden’s decades long track record and a painful recent schooling by kamala; among other examples from the recent past.

    also, “unsavory” is putting it extremely mildly when people were put in prison; homes permanently broken; and livelihoods were destroyed by biden et al’s actions.

    todd_bonzalez ,

    Womp womp, thinking about all the women who divorced their husbands because they voted for a pussy grabber. Fuck around and find out.

    lolcatnip ,

    It takes two people to let a vote ruin a marriage. If you know your spouse has strong feelings about politics but it’s just a game to you, then just maybe you shouldn’t play the game in a way that will make your spouse hate you.

    captainlezbian ,

    Also politics displays values. I don’t want to date a republican for myriad reasons like valuing low taxes over strong social services or opposing environmental regulation. Caring for those struggling and for the environment are firm moral positions of mine and I would be angry to find my wife disagrees with those.

    Ranvier , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

    “I’m almost anti-gay,” Dorman told The Post. “It’s an embarrassment to see this kind of behavior… I’d really invite them to go to Iran or Gaza. See what that does for you. See how fast they throw you in prison or kill you.”

    The internalized homophobia is strong with this one. It’s honestly really sad. I mean, he’s an ass. But it’s still kind of sad.

    HomerianSymphony ,

    The internalized homophobia is strong with this one.

    And let’s not forgot the Islamophobia.

    eskimofry , in Toddler, 2, dies after shooting himself while left alone in a Walmart parking lot as his parents shopped for fireworks

    The question of whether we need to be armed to be capable of defending ourselves against tyrannical governments coming for our lives should have come after the question of whether we are capable of defending ourselves against ourselves.

    TheRealKuni ,

    The question of whether we need to be armed to be capable of defending ourselves against tyrannical governments coming for our lives

    Also that wasn’t what the second amendment was about. It was about not wanting a standing army because it gave the federal government too much power, and James Madison believed state militias would be sufficient to defend the nation.

    catloaf ,

    And that’s why, to this day, Congress has to pass the NDAA every year. It’s not just the military budget, it’s also the law making the military exist. We don’t technically have a standing army.

    FuglyDuck , in Families urge judge to block law forcing display of ‘Protestant version of the Ten Commandments’ before kids return to public school in Louisiana
    @FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

    “Best we can do is… oh shit… not like that!”

    SynAcker , in West Texas Pastor Who Used Illegal Donations From Churches to Campaign for Office Is Fined $3,500

    If the fine is less than the amount of donations received, then it just becomes just another cost of doing business.

    Maeve ,

    Kristin Postell, an Abilene attorney who filed a complaint with the commission about Beard’s actions, said she was pleased with the fines levied against him. Given the severity of his actions, she believed the churches should pay less than him. But Postell said such low fines are not sufficient deterrents for violators.

    “I don’t think anybody is going to be super cautious about following the rules unless there is a real financial burden to breaking them,” Postell said.

    Under state law, violations are punishable by up to $5,000, or triple the amount at issue, whichever is greater, and a third-degree felony charge. (No criminal charges were brought in these cases.) J.R. Johnson, the commission’s executive director, declined to comment and did not answer questions about whether the fines were sufficient.

    One lawyer stated the salient point, anyway.

    jonne ,

    So the fine is lower than prescribed by the law regardless of which amount it was?

    FlyingSquid ,
    @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

    Clergy get away with so much horrible shit just by being clergy.

    Maeve ,

    Correct.

    pelletbucket , in Toddler, 2, dies after shooting himself while left alone in a Walmart parking lot as his parents shopped for fireworks

    that sentence got more American with every word

    pelletbucket , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

    lol ok

    pelletbucket , in Trump-loving gays say their MAGA support is ruining their lives

    when do we start testing people’s lead levels before letting them in office

    EgoNo4 ,

    When do we start testing people’s lead levels before letting them vote?

    pelletbucket ,

    I don’t think it matters how brain damaged you are, you’re still allowed to vote. you do have to be competent to hold office though

    dudinax ,

    You do?

    pelletbucket ,

    yeah you’re allowed to expel people from office for gross incompetence

    wreckedcarzz ,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    reproduce*

    davidagain ,

    I’m not sure that the 64-year-old gay man featured at the end of the article is gonna do a lot of procreation.

    wreckedcarzz ,
    @wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world avatar

    Nah this is a blanket-rule, you get tested and you get tested, everybody gets tested!

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