Yeah, I get the point that Elon isn’t Tesla, etc. At the same time, at least for some owners, owning a Tesla isn’t just about just owning an EV, it’s about virtue signalling. And having the Tesla brand linked to Elon means that it’s harder to do this.
At the same time, rightly or wrongly, some people buy Teslas cos they’re the EV, and they get to show what great environmentalists they are (and that they have money haha).
That card got burned out years ago. Anyone who thinks a Tesla makes them look good, needs to join the guys still holding on to their Ed Hardy collection.
From the Romero school for the Obvious: Elmo Husk is a devout shiatbird and should be shunned from polite society. That being said, those cars are freaking neat and NACS is a reasonable standard to use… Still want one (used MX), but in a manner that would convenience me the most and profit him the least.
Tesla spent years building a brand identity that is intimately woven together with Musk. It’s damaged goods now as far as I’m concerned. Every time I encounter one of its products I think about it. It wasn’t too long ago when I was eagerly following product updates in the hopes of eventually buying a car power wall or that solar roof system. I was enthusiastic about rationalizing away the poor build quality and terrible customer support. Now, I would never buy a thing from them and I’m happy to pass judgement on anyone who does. $tslaq
Even beyond Musk the quality of Tesla’s for the price is absolute shit. His presence just makes it even worse. The main selling point for them was the higher range but seems like that may have been a lie the whole time.
A lot of cheap surface level stuff. For example, my dad has a model 3, and the back of the passenger chair just falls off. And by the back I mean the hard plastic shell that holds the seat pocket for the passengers in the second row to use.
There have also been reports of things like mismatched tail lights, cars leaking when it rains, and bumpers just falling off. But I haven’t seen those in person.
Search “Tesla panel gap issues”. Tons of people complaining and many say that trying to fix the issue causes other, bigger gaps, or just gets worse. I’ve heard rumor that if you try to fix them, you’ll void some kind of Tesla support.
Oh, and one of the most damning ones in my book. During a car fire, which Tesla has had PLENTY of, some genius decided that the door locks should default to LOCKED. Who the actual fuck thought this was acceptable? How did they ever make it into production.
There’s a video floating around of a guy kicking his windows out to escape his burning Tesla.
Dumb dumb musk decided he was smarter than everyone else, (spoiler he’s not) and overrode his own engineers. He decided there were no physical sensors required for auto driving, only cameras. Every other manufacturer knows that not possible yet, but musk knew better
Yes, a lot of car fires are difficult to extinguish, and yes, electric/hybrids more so, but teslas are exceptional. Can’t out out the many teslas that catch fire When the local fire dept came by to inspect our business we got to chatting and they said that they had a Tesla catch fire. They used everything in their arsenal, and a LOT of water. Like more than you could imagine. Then it got towed to a holding yard. Someone parked it up against a building, and next to quite a few other vehicles waiting for legal things/inspections. Tesla reignited in the tow yard and took out everything near it too. The yard is in BIG trouble for damaging a whole lot of evidence/vehicles being held for court cases, etc.
The claim isn’t that they have more fires than other EV or ICE cars. The claim is that if they do have a fire they will trap you and your family in it.
I’m not a Musk fan at all but some of these are misleading or just downright wrong.
Tesla is only the most recalled brand if you categorize “recalls” to include software updates. If Tesla can fix an issue via an OTA update, it shouldn’t be considered a recall but it is in the source being used.
Teslas do have build issues but they’re not overwhelmingly more present than other cars. They’re only showing that way because Tesla only has 4 models of car and the build issues carry over from year to year. That’s not the case for other cars where, like with a Jetta, the body is redesigned but the name stays the same.
The door lock thing is also misleading because the case would be the same for any other car where the driver locked the doors. Either way, the fire department is breaking a window. They don’t have magic keys to open every car door out there. The fire department could pull on the handle all day long and it wouldn’t matter. The driver locked the doors and could have opened them but didn’t (and there’s even a special manual override for them along with a Fire Department quick access switch at the front of the car).
Edit: People are downvoting objectively true information.
That very much understates it. It is the kind of “would be criminal if human rights mattered in this country” stupidity that has been solved for decades. Because it is the kind of thing that makes abductions a lot easier AND can lead to unnecessary deaths in a collision on the off chance the… lithium batteries ignite.
I didn’t miss crap. The cars have a mechanical release on the inside. If the driver was conscious, he could pull the switch which doesn’t need power and would unlock the doors. The OP’s comment and link were referencing the outside of the doors since the Model S has retractable handles that are flush with the door when they’re locked so there’s no handle to grab.
The only exception is the Model X since it has the full-wing doors. Those have a release that is only accessible if you pull off the speaker grill so you’d need to know about that ahead of time.
First and foremost, when you have a vehicle with an electric door lock, you ALWAYS fail it to open. On a “normal” car (yeah there are some that are all electric now too), you have a physical switch that you flip, and it’s unlocked. The locking mechanism for the Tesla is electric, so in the case of the wires being damaged, or as witnessed, the car being on fire, you have no MECHANICAL mechanism to open the door. Supposedly, there is one INSIDE the door, lol what? but how many people will know that, and more importantly be able to access it in a panic?
I did a little more digging. SOME models are equipped with a mechanical release on the door (I assume it’s something you have to pay extra for), but not all of them. As I mentioned above, there is a mechanical option, but you would have to know exactly to remove the door card trim panel, and access the cable. People don’t even read enough of the owners manual to know how shit they really want works, let alone a safety issues.
Clearly you don’t understand what a recall is. Recalls are highly regulated, and things like a software update for the aircon do not fall under the recall term. In fact, manufacturers do everything in their power to avoid recalls. They will often issue a TSB, instead, when a recall isn’t being forced by the NHTSA. Good try though. As you can see from teslas own website (I don’t believe this is even close to all of them) they are ALL safety issues, which is what recalls are for, either voluntary, or forced by NHTSA.
No, they absolutely have more build quality issues than even the lowest trim shit econoboxes. I always say that a tesla is a corolla with a big computer in it, but even the corolla is built WAY better, and I’m old enough to remember 80s cars. Those were pretty damn bad.
First and foremost, how does a normal, non-Tesla car fail to an unlocked door? If the car caught fire and was locked, how does the car unlock the doors in your scenario? Teslas have a mechanical switch that’s no different from the situation you’ve described since the driver was passed out. The door needed to be opened from the outside so it’s literally no different for the Tesla.
Also, your digging was wrong. The Model 3, for example has a mechanical release right on the door that doesn’t need any digging or removal of anything. (teslamotorsclub.com/…/smartselect_20191224-132903…)
Clearly you don’t understand what a recall is
I know exactly what a recall is and you’re wrong again. In 2022 alone, Tesla came in 7th amongst auto manufacturers for recalls but 2nd in total cars affected because over-the-air fixes are still considered recalls. (autoblog.com/…/most-recalls-by-car-manufacturer-2…) Regardless of that, under no interpretation of it does Tesla have the most recalls of any car manufacturer, unless you include the OTA update recalls.
So it sounds like you don’t understand what a recall is.
Everything else you’ve said is subjective garbage. Unless you have some evidence to back up your claims, you’re just spreading more of the lies that are exactly what I’m complaining about. Tesla and Musk have enough real problems that you don’t need to make up their problems.
Burning lithium and other exotic metals are class D fires. They are extraordinarily difficult to extinguish. They burn hot enough to break down water into oxygen and hydrogen. Mainly you let them burn themselves out and try to prevent them from spreading to other more traditionally combustible materials.
There are also the people who got locked out of their cars because the battery died. Or even better the one that locked INSIDE their tesla when the 12v battery died. Getting locked inside a car, in AZ heat is deadly, VERY rapidly.
That’s like the door failing to locked when the car is on fire, or in an accident. Who the fuck let that pass QC?
Musk is a dipshit. But the brand was always doomed once other car manufacturers finally started pushing mainline EVs. Because why would you want an overpriced car with no steering wheel that leaks in the rain when you could just drive an electric Ford Focus?
But it is also worth noting that “crossover SUVs” are generally just another word for “hatchback”. I like Subaru and I forget if the Crosstrek is slightly larger, but it is essentially the hatchback imprezza on a lift kit (which is mostly a normal height since the impreza is a low rider for some unfathomable reason).
I am a wagon fan. I had long wondered why Europe had all these nice wagons and here in the US we had countless crappy SUV models and very few (if any) wagons. Back in the 70’s and 80’s emissions were the reason manufacturers moved from car-based larger capacity vehicles to truck-based. They simply did not have to meet nearly the same emissions requirements. Sucks for you consumer (and environment)!
No. I actually love Adaptive Cruise Control and use it every day in my subaru. To the point that I am genuinely a bit worried about renting a car and doing a lot of highway driving in a few weeks because I am rather rusty at fully maintaining my own speed and distance.
As for branding: I believe you are supposed to end every single nonsense non sequitor with “Interesting”. At least, that is what The Emerald Apartheid was doing last I checked. Or a poop emoticon.
When I rent cars I usually reserve a Toyota Corolla, they are usually the cheapest or second cheapest rental category and they come with adaptive cruise with 3 choices of follow distance and I’ve been really impressed with it, as Subaru driver.
Yeah, being anti-semitic and racist is kinda the default for white folks back then, source half my ancestry is rich white folks the other half is poor white folks.
Musk’s taint on the brand is I think majorly based on this type of thing. His twitter purchase has revealed that he’s a serial liar, and now people are seeing all of the ways that it is happening with Tesla. People tolerate assholes all of the time. What they don’t want to tolerate is snake oil salesmen, and I’m not sure there has ever been a bigger one than Musk.
Fun fact: teslas are the most recalled car brand in the country.
I don’t discredit the work done by the engineers there, I’d argue they laid the groundwork to usher in the future of electric cars in this country. But of course all the credit goes to musk. Just another situation like Steve Jobs. See Bill Burrs bit on Jobs and replace him with Musk, same exact story.
How many of those are real serious recalls that they didn’t just fix with easy tweaks over the air? I hate Musk as much of the next guy but I follow a lot of EV YT channels and even the ones that don’t like Tesla acknowledge that the media overhyped the recalls given how many of them have been easy OTA fixes. Plus since they iterate very fast and don’t just update the car once every four years often it only affects a small subset. Like 1-4k cars in some cases rather than the typical 100k recall that Toyota would have.
Lol so are the CEOs of all the other manufacturers people to look up to and admire? Would you buy a Volkswagen or did you own one when Martin Winterkorn was running it?
Elon is a man child, I don’t look to him for any insights or knowledge, would I buy a Tesla? Ya if the car itself is good, if it’s not good then I wouldn’t buy it. It wouldn’t have anything to do with Musk however
Who do you bank with? Do you hold those CEOs to the same standards and not use their products?
Good luck buying anything where there isn’t some ethical issues surrounding the people who are the the top of those corporations
Most other ceos shut their mouth and let the product speak. Tesla/Elon’s mo has been to have the product in the background with him at the forefront, that worked well until it didn’t
Most other ceos shut their mouth and let the product speak
I prefer my evil rulers behind the curtain, thank you very much!
*this is in no way a defence of Musk it's a pointing out how ridiculous it is to see a problem with him but not care about the other obscenely wealthy capitalists who not only exploit labour and hoard resources, but also basically own government via either corruption (aka "lobbying") or direct representation (ie all the rich fucks in government making rules for themsleves and their friends), just like Musk, simply because they're "polite" enough to do it behind closed doors.
That's not to say don't buy the things you need, it's to say don't be deluded in to thinking that it matters. As long as capitalism exists, governance by and for the rich isn't going anywhere, and your money will always be going to one of maybe a couple dozen people.
A big lesson from Trump and others like him is that when someone’s a piece of shit and brags about it in public, it looks innocuous and at best it may be revealing and may validate your views on power and the flaws of society, but on another level he’s likely to give voice to, rally and convince other assholes to feel entitled and protected to act like assholes and then you have an actual problem. So yes, polite amorality is better.
When someone tells you all companies are evil, that’s fine. When someone tells you all companies are equally evil, they’re showing themselves to be morally incompetent.
(Same goes for politicians: If someone tells you all politicians are corrupt, that’s fine; if they tell you all politicians are equally corrupt, you can bet that person votes for fascists.)
Not sure where we disagree here? You are right the jackass just can’t keep his mouth shut I don’t care what his beliefs are though, I don’t go to corporations for my ethics, I go to them because I want to buy a product
In that case you must then remove yourself from society, since not only does at least 90% of the money you spend end up in the pockets of evil people, but evil people are also keeping much if not most of your hard earned money for themselves before you ever know it existed by paying you less than your labour is worth (what you earned them).
Nothing wrong with that but… again do you do that across the board all the time because if you do congrats it’s not an easy thing to accomplish
And I’m not dumb I know it doesn’t have to be an all or nothing, doing it when you can is great I just can’t stand people who pontificate about shitheads like Musk but buy all their shit from Amazon
Tesla spent years building a brand identity that is intimately woven together with Musk.
It worked well for a long time but it makes sense if people lose faith in Musk they lose faith in Tesla. Because he is synonymous with the brand.
Lol so are the CEOs of all the other manufacturers people to look up to and admire?
They haven’t built their brands around the reputation of their ceo.
Would I buy a Tesla? Ya if the car itself is good.
How can you evaluate if a car is good? It has recently been revealed that Tesla/Musk was exaggerating their range so severely that Tesla owners thought their cars were defective. Tesla has been trading on a reputation of ‘goodness’ that it didn’t deserve.
Tesla is seeing repercussions from risks they took tying their brand so tightly with Musk.
If anyone bought a Tesla because of Musk they were idiots, so same logic applies the other way
You could argue Apple built its brand around Jobs (who died because of his moronic beliefs about natural cures) and now Cook… pretty sure Apple kowtows to Chinese censorship and also does shitty things (I’m typing this on an iPhone right now) so I’m no fan of Jobs or Cook I just don’t give a fuck about them, I bought it because it’s the best phone for me
The range issues are pretty funny, people thinking they were defective is comical, I will however point out that is nothing new all auto manufacturers have done this for the decades with fuel economy numbers, I can’t tell you how many people we would have come through the dealership complaining about fuel economy after buying a new car
As far as evaluating if a car is good or not of course you can do that, do research on reliability issues, check recalls, ask friends and family who have actually owned them if they are any good, if you have a mechanic that you know ask them
You can’t have a rational discussion about Tesla on lemmy. So many people are so sick of hearing about Musk that only those who REALLY hate him will click on an article about him. Those people can not separate the product from the vocal dirtbag that is its CEO.
I personally think Musk is a massive pile of garbage but that wouldn’t make me not buy a Tesla, I’ll buy it if it’s a decent car, if I had the money right now it would be between a Tesla and an Ionic
People trying to tie their purchases to the ethics of the people who run the companies are divorced from reality imo
Ah the ole “you’re a hypocrite because your life contains contradictions”… Elon musk shoved his way into my life but according to you my buying decisions are wrong if I don’t actively ignore that douche
It’s less about hypocrisy and more about what’s wrong with just buying something and not having it also have to be an existential moral crisis, don’t buy a Tesla because you think Musk is a genius but if you already own one and are gonna sell it because of Musk then that’s also ridiculous, if you are looking for an electric car and strictly won’t buy it even if it’s the best option based on the money then that just seems over the top to me is all
I have a bank account yet I’m no fan of banks, I’m typing on an iPhone, apple does shitty things, I buy shit from Amazon when I have to… I despise billionaires
Biggest issue is social. Buying a Tesla associates you positively with musk (by design), and from my experience most Tesla owners are incredibly annoying about it. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with wanting to avoid the stigma. Same reason people buy Harleys - the brand name and cultural associations on a vehicle matter a lot, sometimes even more than the car itself.
I can see what you are saying but that’s not a universal thing, like when it comes to Tesla I never associated that with Musk he’s just the shithead that owns it, to me it’s more about the most widely available semi affordable electric car you could buy since the legacy manufacturers dragged their asses wasting time with hydrogen and hybrids
I guess the difference I have here with people is exactly that, I don’t attach him as being Tesla
That was a good way of putting it describing it like a Harley, makes sense. I ride motorbikes and I dgaf about what brand I own, I’d ride anything including a Harley
In addition, almost all big car manufacturers now have far better EVs in terms of quality, features, and looks. Tesla no longer has the monopoly they enjoyed for almost a decade. If you’re selling me an EV with this shit stain on it, I’d just go the shop next door.
Let his fascist followers buy his EVs….oh wait, they hate them. Remember all the rage against EVs in Texas that led to “rolling coal” in Teslas, purposely parking F250s to take up all the Tesla charging stations, vandalism at charging stations, keying Teslas parked at malls? Yeah, those are the people he is fighting for.
I wanted a Tesla. I was ready to get a model 3. Then he went full blown ass clown and at first I thought it was a joke, like he was just messing around being funny. Then I realized how big of a dbag he really is and yeah, no thanks. I bought a CTS-V instead and although it’s the opposite of fuel efficient, it’s the most fun vehicle I’ve ever driven.
On the other hand, maybe we should start a foundation to buy Teslas for trans people. Can you imagine how pissed Musk would get if it suddenly became cool to be trans in a Tesla?
Someone point me in the direction of an EV that’s better in terms of price and performance. I hate Musk, but this anti-tesla shit is ridiculous to me. I’d buy another one because the CEO of a car company isn’t the reason for my car purchase. How people can’t separate that is so strange to me. Capitalism sucks, but what other car company is transitioning us away from fossil fuels better and quicker? Fuck Musk, but Tesla has the right mission statement. Without them, EVs would still be another few decades away
If I already had a Tesla I don't know that I'd sell it because of him, but he was one of the major factors in me not even considering them when I was shopping for my EV. The other reasons being shoddy quality control, shitty practices, and dumb design decisions. All of which probably stem from him anyway.
Yeah, if my car was beyond repair tomorrow and I needed a new one, I’d be getting either a Hyundai Ioniq 6 or a Silverado EV. A few years ago, I would’ve been leaning toward the Model 3.
I really want a bolt euv but I’m put off by them cancelling and then uncancelling it. I’m worried what will happen when they stop making the car (and therefore parts for it) a year or two after I bought it…
No car is made forever, even a next generation isn’t going to use the same parts and this has regularly happened with cars when they make new generations, it’s not a new problem.
I’m saying if you want an EV6 and you don’t care about one pedal driving, then you don’t have to worry about that problem. It’s an optional driving mode that I personally don’t use since I dislike it.
While I understand your perspective I don’t think you’re seeing mine.
I understand I don’t have to use that feature, I’m concerned about the (now fixed) safety violation the feature presents by not indicating that someone is breaking when those drivers who want to use it choose to do so.
Simply saying “don’t use it” only fixes it in one instance.
I’d be looking to sell it, specifically because of him.
The willingness for him to make executive decisions to fuck people using his platforms is what frightens me. He’ll cut starlink for people he doesn’t like. He’ll snipe twitter accounts of people he doesn’t like.
Since Teslas can be remotely force fed new updates, I genuinely believe it’s just a matter of time before he starts fucking with peoples cars. I expect as a way to use Tesla owners as pawns to apply political pressure in areas w/ high ownership that enact tax policy he doesn’t like.
I wouldn't doubt he'd try that, but if he did he'd be in for a world of hurt since people need their cars to get to work. I imagine the government wouldn't take kindly to people's 5 digit dollar purchased not working on the whims of a crazy billionaire.
It doesn’t have to be as blatant as turning them off. Just garnishing features. Nerfing sentinel, range, top speed, etc.
I can almost hear the bullshit. “X state’s lithium recycling tax policy means we have to limit discharge to 80% to avoid premature battery degredation. Drivers may notice a range reduction but it is required to operate within this new regulatory environment”
Same. I had to get a new car recently. Prices were crazy and I wish I had gone with a new instead of a used. But Tesla was off the list from the beginning. I figured I'd wait one more car to get electric. Should be in a new place by then where I can install a home charger too, and the prices will probably be drastically lower by the time my current car dies again.
teslas were cool when they were the only practical electric cars, especially sports cars. but that's no longer true and it's becoming less so every year. may as well get a mach-e or a ioniq and ditch muskyboy
Here’s to hoping the Chinese evs come to the usa when the tax incentives end for us car companies. Otherwise I’m leaning to hyundai if that doesn’t mature.
I don’t really care where the company hails from but I like NIO’s approach to fast-swappable batteries at service stations over long wait times at charging stations. Wait an hour to recharge or wait 15 minutes for a tech to slap in a fully charged battery, think I’ll grab a drink and snack and by the time I’m done buying that, they’re likely done swapping my battery. They’re already doing it in China and the NIOs are selling well there
An hour?? You lot must have proper rubbish infrastructure. Longest I’ve “waited” was 24 minutes. I in fact had to nip back and move my car as after a pit stop at the toilet and waiting to get a drink and snack, the car was almost full and my other passengers still weren’t back.
That’s great if you can get a supercharger free when you get there and you’re filling from depleted. Pretty much all the manufacturers state 45 minutes zero to full on a supercharger, and in my city at least the super chargers are few and far between and there’s generally a wait for them since they’re somewhat rare. They shouldn’t be rare but I live in the Midwest and there is next to no government appetite for moving away from fossil fuels
We are hearing horrible things about the Teslas manufactured in Germany from the people working there. Employees leave that place in droves, not only because of the abysmal way they are treated, but also because of the awful quality they are forced to produce there. The question is not where it’s produced, it is the company.
Not seen anything from owners stating anything like that from EU or Chinese models. I’m not saying it’s not possible just it’s not being widely reported by credible organisations or by end users as far as I can see.
I’ve no horse in this race btw, I just hate echo chambers and rampant tribalism. EV are still a hotbed of both.
There was literal mass protesting and vandalism of Tesla stores in China due to “ghost braking” and other safety/performance items that musk refused to take care of. This started end of last year and continued into the 1H23, just to catch you up on your facts.
It’s funny how it’s always the ones who don’t have a fucking clue, who see consensus and agreement as an “echo chamber and rampant tribalism”.
That’s a lot of anger directed at someone you don’t know about something you don’t own by a company you down use owned by someone who you hate who doesn’t know you exist. You’re going off at a random person on the Internet because what, I didn’t immediately side with you? And that warrants this attitude you’re throwing out? Not tribalism at all. Continually confirming how right you are isn’t an echo chamber.
I’m out. People like you were the worst thing about reddit and you’ve brought your toxicity here. Good job.
You should give reddit a shot now that Lemmy is growing. There’s plenty of more victim groups for people who make up bullshit and then cry when shut down with facts.
Side with me? What are you 12? No one needs you to take sides when there’s overwhelming evidence. You just don’t like being shown your wrong. Here you go, it was all over every front page/business/automotive/renewable major news source for several months if you cared to actually contribute to a real conversation.
No shit. Trump is only loyal to himself and expects the same from others. He and his cult of followers don't give a single shit about the Republican Party.
If anything has become clear over the past years, it’s that magats are Republicans and Republicans are magats. I half expected enough “decent” Republicans to be offended by trumps actions and rhetoric to the point of splitting off to a new party. It has happened before. But instead elected Republican representatives and their deplorable voters have grabbed their literal and/or figurative tiki torches to rally around the wannabe dictator.
The Fed began increasing rates in January of 2022. Inflation peaked in June of 2022 at 9.1% and is now at 3.2%.
Are you proposing that this is a sheer coincidence, and that corporations simply decided to stop being greedy in July of last year? I would love to see your evidence of this.
If anything, one could say that this is a consequence not further raising rates at the last meeting.
You seem to have an argument you want to present regardless of what the person you’re responding to said. They didn’t say it was greedy corporations, just that the Fed’s measures didn’t work.
And while the reduction from peak could be the Fed’s rates, there’s no reason to think it must be, as many of the proposed causes (supply chain disruptions, built up demand, pandemic stimulus) would all be expected to ease over time.
As for your chosen windmill, the studies pointing to price gouging suggest it’s related to a public expectation of prices increases allowing for gouging to piggyback on other causes for price increases. It’s not something the companies can just choose to do at a whim and only just now decided to be greedy, which means they might be pressured to reduce excess profit taking due to easing of any of the underlying factors or even just public sentiment.
(re: doppelgangmember) Interest rates are a pretty shit way to protect consumers.
(re: BraveSirZaphod) But inflation is influenced by them nonetheless. And raising them definitely helped with inflation. And they should’ve raised them way earlier, and probably not even dropped them so drastically in the first place – debt-fueled nonsense was already a feeding frenzy before COVID. Also you were kind of a jerk in your reply.
My own thoughts here: High prices are only half of the equation. The other half is low wages. Wages are finally coming back up, but they’re still far, far behind. And high interest rates can hurt consumers just as much as low interest rates do. When debt is cheap, large firms can speculate like crazy. When debt is expensive, cash on hand is more powerful.
As a result, if you don’t already own capital assets, you’re pretty much screwed either way. Both at the micro and macro level. Cuz you’re missing out on opportunities, and meanwhile the winners are gaining a bigger percentage of the market so their monopoly power grows and grows.
So yeah, pretty much any action the fed takes could reasonably be met with a scoff when they say it’s “to protect consumers”.
If you picture the fed as a shepherd, consumers as the sheep, and megafirms as the wolves, then lowering interest rates is kinda like breeding tons of sheep. The sheep do great for a moment, but they become a rich food source for the wolves, which overshadows the sheep’s growth. Then they raise interest rates, which is like slathering the sheep in poison. It harms the wolves, sure, but it’s not good for the sheep either.
Once upon a time, the government built fences to keep the wolves out. But then farmer Reagan told us that fences were bad for the sheep and everything would be fine if we just let nature take its course. What big teeth he had.
I mean, Jobs was a notorious asshole by basically all non-consumer accounts. If modern social media were 10-15 years older, he would totally have been raving batshit insane stuff. And, if the unverifiable “company stories” my buddy at Apple has shared are true… it would have been fucked.
But that gets to the crux of it. It is more or less “the Tom Cruise problem” as it were. Tom is a notoriously batshit insane cultist with a LOT of ties to people being “disappeared” and abused. He is also a RIDICULOUSLY good actor with an agent who knows how to get him the best films. So most of us try to not think about how evil he is as we cheer for Ethan Hunt or whatever.
And, for all my dislike of Apple products, they are quality (except the fucking mouse).
teslas are very much not “quality” by car standards and most of their branding is built on the cult of personality alone.
Funny that you mention the fructose as Jobs died from treating his cancer “…with a vegan diet, acupuncture, herbs, bowel cleansings, and other remedies that he found online. At one point, he even reached out to a psychic.”
Elon doesn’t care, he flies American astronauts and equipment into space. A few less cars won’t put a dent in his vast wealth.be paid for Twitter and regrew to the world’s richest man very quickly.
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