I don’t see what difference that makes. Elon is a cunt, so that makes it better for me to give my money to another company who’d rather see the world burn than change their core business? Doesn’t track for me but maybe I’m missing something.
I know, I’m monster. I bought a box of biscuits the other day without even recognising which company it was from. Who knows what kind of nasty shit whoever’s at the top of that mud heap believes.
I’m making light but I guess I don’t really see what difference it actually makes. I vote for inclusive policies and try and model inclusive behaviour as much as I can day to day. Surely that makes more of a difference than giving my money to some other company who’s CEO is probably just as shit. I could be wrong though.
EDIT: Also I disagree on your take on knowing vs not knowing. If you’re going to hold the belief that you should only buy products from companies with nice CEOs I think you should have the courage to follow your conviction through. Surely not knowing or bothering to research and buying a product anyway would be almost as bad, there’s a good chance you’ll buy quite a few products from assholes otherwise.
That’s not really fair, it’s a big investment, and new cars are wasteful. Also, Musk wasn’t like this so openly before he started meeting with Trump in the white house.
Not that long ago he was a dickhead hype man for electric cars and reusable rockets. As billionaires go, that’s close to as good as it gets
I mean lebanon is slowly becoming more progressive if it wasn’t for it’s government that is corrupt as hell. Though many smart lebanese just leave for western nations because the standard of living is higher even if your broke.
Elon is worth over $200B. He has many people on his team that advise him about his wealth and growing it. It’s highly unlikely he bumbled his way into $22B of Saudi Arabian money, accidentally withdrew another $22B from his chequing account, accidentally fired over half of the staff at twitter, accidentally changed the name to the asinine “X”, and accidentally made the company hemorrhage valuation. It was a calculated move. The only thing he wasn’t prepared for was the price tag because he couldn’t stop running his mouth. SA invested $22B into the acquisition because they wanted Musk to destroy the platform. Arab Spring and all that. Do you think that SA invested that kind of money directly because they thought they would see ROI? Hardly.
IDK, seems like you're giving him too much credit but that does sound pretty plausible. Would be pretty short-sighted of SA though, it's not like people can't use other apps.
I have to say that of all things in China for Marxist-Lenninists to be defending, the Chinese urban real estate sector of 2023 seems like a pretty odd choice.
That’s pretty rude. I’m all for critism where it is due but seems like in any article about China rather than discussing the article we use the article to prove our preconceived notion is truth.
Same as I don’t automatically believe any article I read about UK/US/Europe.
Like, fuck Musk all the way to Mars and back (actually, not back), but this is as pointless as when bigots burn sneakers or razors or beer because of a "woke" ad, except replacing a car uses so many more resources than replacing some shoes. And that's if anyone will even buy it off them, if not, then it's a whole car in the dump.
Surely making use of the car you spent tens and tens of thousands to buy, and putting an "I hate musk" sticker over the Tesla emblem is a better way to go about this?
Or is there some subscription shit where owning a Tesla means you continuously pay for features or whatever? Though if that's the case I go back to my earlier point - selling it to someone else won't actually end that.
You know, I'm going to say it and maybe no one likes it, but. Just the feel I get is that we're so hopeless in having our politicians actually do shit. Like, we realize, they're not going to do a damn thing to address jack shit. And the world has been turned so rampant consumerism, that the only way it feels like we have left is to do this non-sense of burning sneakers, shooting beer, and selling cars.
Like we're so past the point that actual advocacy is so ineffective and politicians are so past the point of actually serving the public, it's either we rampant play the game they've set before us with mucho-consumerism or we do the teetotal opposite of "we're killing the Applebees" anti-consumerism.
Now there's tons of in the middle, but say there's some perceived social ill, well to solve it you cannot just send a letter to your Congressional Representative or Senator. That's just going straight to the recycle bin. And you cannot just march on whatever to try and make a point, news cycle isn't going to focus on it unless it drives traffic to their site to sell ads. So how does one solve this "ill", fuck it, let's go consumerism in one or the other direction TO THE EXTREME!! Because, that money, that's what they're listening to. So you and your groupies fucking with it or amping its sales through the roof, oh well that they will listen to suddenly. We've got this notion that the things we own OR don't own define our position of morals and ethics. It's kinda fucked up when you think about it, it's like 11:00am here and while typing this I'm starting to reach for my whiskey flask.
I feel like this is how the Boston Tea party got started. The British wouldn't listen to shit, so fuck it, let's go fuck their tea up! You know, I don't know, all of this is just a feeling. But it feels like people we voted in to listen to us won't listen to us and thus we've got to go fuck with people's wallets so that they will listen to us. Do I think it's a good idea? Nah, this is silly shit. We should be able to address social woes in better terms. But that said, it doesn't feel like we've got a lot of tools to actually address shit. Everyone (that's hyperbole, I just mean to say a good amount of folks) has gone greedy as shit. There is fewer and fewer folks who are looking at "what will this do to the future" and just getting into that "dog eat dog" mentality.
Trying to keep from going off in a long crazy ass tangent, long story short, I think the 1% have amassed so much fucking everything and the rest of us are fighting so hard for table scraps, it's difficult to not be slashing at people's throats. Because if you ain't taking from your brother or your sister, you've got rich fuckers taking from you both. Like I said, it's just feels, but damn it feels like when it comes to solving some sort of problem in society we're a small hungry rodent being backed into a corner by some fifty foot cat. We're at a breaking point, we're either going to do something crazy or be a feline's lunch. Is that the proper way to solve anything, odds are likely "no", but damn I can't blame a person for being crazy. We're in some crazy ass times.
So yeah, I agree with you, but I mean I can't really look around this place and blame a person for being batshit crazy. It's kinda the environment that's promoted now a days. Now me and my whiskey flask are going to go have a heart to heart. Shit.
It’s not the same as the idiots who burn sneakers or whatever, because they bought new stuff only to then burn it. This is selling something you already owned. Yes, it’s better for the environment to just keep whatever car you have until it no longer works, but it’s not as bad as buying something new just to burn it. It’s also not as bad as burning something you already own, since someone else gets to use the car.
I genuinely don't believe most of the people burning shit in protest were buying new.
And even if they were, shoes cost tens, maybe hundreds at most, this is tens of thousands of dollars lol (which, being a car, they'll never get anything near that back)
It also doesn't change the fact that getting rid of something that expensive because you've only just realised the guy who owns the company is an asshole (he has been an out and proud asshole before the cars were made, they were just either not paying attention or actively licking boot), is 100% an act of vanity performed by a highly privileged shattered ego.
So maybe even worse than buying sneakers to burn them... 🤔🤔🤔
The news that has come out about how Tesla and Space-X have succeeded in spite of Musk, not because of him, has been eye opening. I think there’s something to be said for having a front man to be the face of a company. Since Apple has been fine post Steve Jobs, so would Tesla and Space-X be fine post Elon. Frankly I’m kind of terrified that Space-X will get dragged down by this shit too, but it seems to have benefitted from being a side-project and not on Elon’s front radar. If Elon gets bored of Twitter and starts doing Space-X stuff again. Thank goodness NASA kept redundancy in their rocket pipelines… At the time, it seemed like a waste, but now it looks very prudent.
Shock! I imagine those are the same owners who bought in because of his rhetoric to begin with. Anecdotally, it seems as if less “car people” buy Tesla’s, as in they aren’t buying it for the technology or the engineering of the product itself.
Not only that, it has to be effecting their hiring. I haven’t replied to tesla recruiter asking to set up an interview because I don’t wanna work for him
That’s a smart call. Working conditions at his companies are wild. You’ll be required to work 80 hours a week every week or be fired. But at the same time you’ll be working in a pretty building with young people and a great cafeteria where you sometimes go to nice parties.
I understand the frustration, but living on an island means that you are isolated. Help is on the way, I’m sure, but they have to arrive via ship. If I remember right, Oahu is the only island with a proper harbor for ships. I don’t think Maui has any type of airport either.
I understand the frustration, but living on an island means that you are isolated. Help is on the way, I’m sure, but they have to arrive via ship. If I remember right, Oahu is the only island with a proper harbor for ships. I don’t think Maui has any type of airport either.
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