Some of them literally did that right at the start of the pandemic before everything got shut down for quarantine because "it might scare the patients."
The hospital I get my care from here in Los Angeles still requires masks, and the security guard will make you put one on before you can enter the lobby. 👍
In N Out even has their own warehouses to supply their restaurants. I see meat packing positions listed on their website which I would highly suspect require masks.
Yeah, it's not. From my experience in the restaurant that I visit (in LA) I see maybe 1/4 or 1/5 that still wear them.
As a parent of a pre-K kid (for those who don't know, daycares and schools for young kids are grand centrals for microbes) I no longer get sick from covid, but I can still tell I got it, because there are specific symptoms I'm still getting from it that are quite annoying. One of the worst is that for few days I feel just extremely tired. If I have nothing to do, and I can just sleep that time off. Working during that time is no fun.
So even if mask reduces chance of getting that by half, it is still worth it. It also would help employer as being tired at job one won't get as productive as they normally could. And this is just my experience, and other people have it worse.
Just had it for the first time. About a week in I had a day where I was extremely tired, almost like I never fully woke up that morning despite getting a great night sleep. Pretty awful symptom and probably the worst of all the symptoms I had. I could barely function that day. Covid is a strange disease.
How are you still getting it that often. I got it once in the UK after if been jabbed three times, that felt like a pretty bad cold for a week, and since then I’ve tested with each cold, but it hasn’t been Covid since that first time.
First thing is that, I am taking immuno-suppressing drug regularly.
Second thing is what is happening to me is (depending how you look at it) minor. I don't get cold symptoms anymore either (although I my first covid was just runny nose). The primary thing is that I get that mentioned tiredness. I think most people would chalk it up under having a bad day / not sleeping enough etc.
The thing though is that when it happens it comes with few other symptoms that I had when I had covid:
flare up, causing joint pain especially in the morning
first day there's a light diarrhea (also nothing concerning on its own, and following day is normal)
And those three things always come together at the same time.
No, I'm not testing and I doubt it would even show positive. I don't have any cold-like symptoms, and tests, test my mucus.
It's not like what you described having covid, or even my first covid.
Perhaps I should not say that I had covid, but instead I was exposed to it multiple times and my body naturalized it before it became anything significant but it still caused those symptoms?
Not OP but I too wanted to know a source so I did a search on this cool new website I invented with Al Gore called google.fu and found this from Smithsonian Magazine:
The study examined 800 foodborne illness outbreaks reported by 25 state and local health departments between 2017 and 2019. Of the roughly 500 outbreaks linked to at least one known contributing factor, 205 of them, or 41 percent, involved ill workers.Jun 2, 202
/s about inventing that with Al Gore. It was actually Tom Landry.
What do you base that off of? Most food poisoning is due to bad storage of food resulting in bacterial toxins even after it's cooked. Only Norovirus has an oral route that I can think of (and that's usually based around projectile vomiting that then ends up on hands).
? That just says salmonella and norovirus and encourages hand hygiene. Masks wouldn't help there. To be clear, I want safe food handling, I'm just also a nurse and prefer reasonable approaches over theater. Foodborn illness generally doesn't benefit from droplet projections.
Yeah parent poster added the masks into the comment, but the study did not mention them, but as the study says, the improper hand hygiene is responsible for large number of food poisonings.
Why the study doesn't talk about masks? Likely because it was done before pandemic so no one wore masks in that setting. Second thing is that generally they are concerned about serious diseases and if somebody would report catching a cold from eating at restaurant will simply be ignored. People are also less likely to report because it's harder to be sure where cold came from.
Though if diseases transferred via dirty hands caused 41% of outbreaks, then I believe it's safe to say that air borne disease is more likely to transfer that way, it's just a kind of diseases that no one cared about until we had covid, and only in 2020.
What’s unreasonable about someone else choosing to wear a mask when they’re sick? Even if it’s not causing foodborne illnesses, it’s still spreading the illness to other staff and customers.
This “made up statistic” is the “unreasonable approach to safe food handling” that you referred to earlier? That doesn’t make sense as statistics are data not actions to follow when handling food.
Are you arguing that a stranger freely deciding to wear a mask when they’re sick is too unreasonable in your eyes and should be banned? That’s ridiculous.
No, I am not arguing that and I don't particularly know why you think I am since I never indicated it. I objected to the idea that masks would prevent half of food borne illnesses, when they would likely prevent none. If you base your actions off of something as ridiculous as that, you are not taking a reasonable approach to safe food handling.
If you think you're arguing with an anti masker, you're not. Like I said, I'm a nurse and provided direct patient care to people dying from COVID.
Correlation, not causation. Is my food poisoning orally contagious? A sick employee may care a lot less about the quality of food they’re preparing, causing more people to get sick from rotten food on average. There are too many variables to even consider in this.
I think the assumption they’re making with that comment is that this is a result of a higher population of Black women in a specific area of TN, but “more likely to die” isn’t necessarily the same as “more deaths,” though that may also be true. As the doctor in the article points out, there are factors like discrimination by health care professionals (such as not being believed when they’re telling the doctor there is a problem) and complications that occur in higher numbers in Black women (which can be due to other facors stemming from systemic racism such as income, healthcare access, environmental racism, etc).
This is a short article, but there’s plenty of papers out there about how people are treated differently by doctors and have different levels of access to healthcare in the US based on what population they belong to (racial, ethnic, lgbtq+, etc) and that women of color typically have the poorest healh outcomes.
Elder abuse to go and trick these poor old ladies and gentlemen. It doesn’t matter they were the ones stupid enough to fall for it, that’s why we have elder abuse laws.
E. I see now that my joke was clunky and misunderstood. What I mean to say is it that these people don’t get excused for being gullible pawns because what they did was criminal, and the people who organized this shit are much more culpable and should receive the more severe punishment. Luckily, these people are the same dumb assholes that made it law in Michigan to charge inmates $48,000 per year to be in prison, real real. So hopefully on the flip side of their sentences they are broke, in addition to being ex cons.
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