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jcit878 , in Trump stole Israeli artifacts from White House

They belong in a museum!

ScorpionFrog ,
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He belongs in prison

mightyfoolish ,

He belongs in a museum?

Huhni , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO

That wouldn’t have happened if the 1-year-old had a gun 🤔

PoliticalAgitator ,

Or if the family lived almost anywhere else in the world.

MasterObee ,

You saying this in this scenario is the reason why we’re so divided. You try to pervert fair arguments and make them seem absurd.

These are not the issues the democrats are targeting in wanting to solve when they want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

yesman ,

want to ban semi-autos, and you know it.

I say F the 2nd. And it was gun rights advocates who radicalized me, not Democrats.

MasterObee ,

Okay, well until we as a country determine that the constitution needs amending and we want to repeal the 2nd amendment, it’s the constitution that is the most important part of the law that every state must abide by.

I like that you didn’t respond to the rest of my comment that showed how stupid yours was. What do you think of the criticism I had for your comment, do you just want to ignore my points of

  1. You’re strawmanning the argument
  2. This isn’t the scenario’s the democrats are targeting when they want to ban AR’s.
  3. If a different weapon was used, do you think it’s a good argument to ban said weapon?
Gork ,

It is likely that the 3 y/o would not have killed the 1 y/o if a gun was not available.

Unless murder was on the mind.

MasterObee ,

You can’t see a scenario where instead of a gun the kid had, he’s playing with a knife and cuts the 1 year old? Have you been around many kids that age?

But, please entertain me, if it was a knife, should we be trying to ban knives?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t ever remember my child playing with a knife, let along attacking another child with a knife. What kind of children are you around?

MasterObee ,

I’ve never seen a child shoot another kid, but that doesn’t mean it hasn’t happened, clearly. You’re doing a lot to avoid the question:

if it was a knife, should we be trying to ban knives?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Can you demonstrate that it has happened?

And I never said anything about banning anything.

MasterObee ,

Do you know what a hypothetical question is?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s a ‘hypothetical’ you keep bringing up in relation to something that actually happened.

And I still never said anything about any bans. Were you going to acknowledge that?

MasterObee ,

It’s a ‘hypothetical’ you keep bringing up in relation to something that actually happened.

Clearly - the point is that guns are a tool used by tens of millions of americans to mainly provide food and protection for their families.

Not unlike knives.

Just because you don’t use guns, doesn’t mean they aren’t useful or even pivotal in other peoples lives. I’m not a carpenter, but if there was someone getting killed with a hammer, I don’t call for hammers to be banned. It’s a tool used in other peoples livelihoods.

And I still never said anything about any bans. Were you going to acknowledge that?

You responded to me in a chain of comments about banning guns. If you didn’t want to talk about it, why’d you respond to it?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I responded to your repeated silly “hypothetical” about a thing you can’t demonstrate actually happens in response to something that actually has happened many times. If you don’t want to be criticized, don’t compare the reality to your imagination.

MasterObee ,

Okay, so you don’t know what a hypothetical question is.

“A hypothetical question is one based on supposition, not facts. They are typically used to elicit opinions and beliefs about imagined situations or conditions that don’t exist.”

HAHAHA verbatim, dog. All you did was prove you don’t know what a hypothetical is.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I know exactly what a hypothetical situation is. I also know why it’s silly to use one in comparison to something that has actually happened many times.

MasterObee ,

I know exactly what a hypothetical situation is

Now you do. You’re welcome.

FlyingSquid , (edited )
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Yet again, your use of a hypothetical is the problem. Or do you think hypotheticals always work for any argument?

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

Is a pump-action shotgun not an armament? A bolt-action rifle? A revolver? I’m fine with an 18yo buying one of these. You want something more powerful then show you’re responsible enough to own it.

FlyingSquid ,
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I don’t hear a lot about 3-year-olds stabbing 1-year-olds. I do hear a lot about toddlers getting guns and shooting other kids…

MasterObee ,

If the 3 yo instead stabbed the 1 year old, would that make a difference? Should we start banning household knives?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What 3-year-olds are stabbing people? You are obsessed with this idea.

timbuck2themoon ,

Such a bullshit take. The kid would stop once they knew it was hurting. No such chance with a gun.

Again, it’s gun nuts like you that make people like me say fuck the second.

MasterObee ,

Again, it’s gun nuts like you that make people like me say fuck the second.

HAHAHA I own my dads old little .22. I’m not a gun nut, just empathetic enough with people that have different lifestyles to know that tens of millions of americans provide food and protection for themselves with guns, and that someone using a tool incorrectly across the nation shouldn’t make me hate and ban them.

BrianTheeBiscuiteer ,

Knives are in nearly every household yet accidental deaths from laceration are not very common. Maybe they’re not nearly as prevalent in media so kids don’t think to “play” with knives. Maybe they’re just not as deadly as guns (they’re absolutely not).

The biggest difference between knives (plus the dozens of other dangerous household items that any normal person owns) and guns is the purpose. Guns are intended to harm living things. I cut things almost daily, but in 40 years I’ve never had a situation where I thought a gun would’ve improved the outcome.

Touching_Grass ,

The implication with what they said is that if there was a repeated incident of toddlers accidentally using knives to kill siblings then there probably would be some type of action. But a three year old can’t harm much with a knife,not like with a firearm

Crazypartypony ,

Yup, actually putting the gun in a locked safe or maybe a trigger lock or a safety switch or taking out the bullets, nothing else would work… responsible gun owners are not a problem. Stop creating an issue where there isn’t one. Gun control isn’t just banning guns.

Nioxic , (edited )

You cant ban “basic” tools

Guns are tools too, but way to specialized. Almost nobody really needs them.

But knives? I use knives daily for food prep/cooking

And opening boxes

And cutting wood

(Of course different knives with different types of blade, etc)

A gun has 1 purpose: kill someone

MasterObee ,

but way to specialized. Almost nobody really needs them.

Every tool is specialized. How many different screws do they make that need different screw drivers?

And the fact that you can’t empathize with any other lifestyle than your, likely big city, lifestyle is absurd. Do you not know people rely on hunting for food? For protection?

But knives? I use knives daily for food prep/cooking

What if a rural individual hunts every day?

And opening boxes

Guards his animals every day. You ever try to get a hungry coyote off your chickens?

kill someone

See right there, that’s my point. You don’t see it as a tool. You see it as a violent weapon that is only made to kill ‘someone,’ you’re so limited in your world view that you can’t even comprehend someone hunting for a deer to provide for their family. All you know is that you can buy some deer meet at stores.

CoffeeJunkie ,

And kill animals for food.

And kill pest animals.

But yeah, that’s about it.

Draedron ,

Whats the “fair argument”? You need more guns to prevent more shootings? Do you realise how dumb this is?

MasterObee ,

That in a case of self defense, I’d rather have a gun.

Draedron ,

Just that with your stupid laws the other guy has a gun too. With good laws no one has a gun

MasterObee ,

And that’s the problem with you - you have no empathy for others.

Guns are useful. Guns provide food for millions of american families. They provide protection for ones home. They provide protection for ones animals.

You want me to fight a coyote attacking my chickens with a knife?

You may live in a lifestyle that you don’t need to hunt for food, you don’t have a chicken or your family to protect, likely a big city. What about everyone else that doesn’t share your lifestyle?

Klear ,

What kind of third world shithole do you live in?

MasterObee ,

Someone that hunts for food is 3rd world?

I think you’ve lost what it means to be human. I understand, you buy your eggs from the market, does it make someone inherently worse that they get their eggs from their chickens?

InverseParallax , in MI6 door ‘always open’ to Russian defectors, says UK spy chief Richard Moore

Yeah, umm, and they should really defect now, the purges are coming and they won’t be pretty.

Either that or expect to be sent to the bakhmut front.

InverseParallax , in Russia strikes Ukraine's Odesa port in 'hellish' attack - official

Here’s a thought:

Let’s send US flag ships to collect the grain.

Easy to bomb wheat destined for the poor in Africa who need it when it’s under a civilian flag, huh?

Pathetic bully state needs to be stomped in the balls.

MicroWave OP , in What we know about Travis King, the U.S. soldier who crossed into North Korea
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Officials say Pvt. 2nd Class Travis King has been a calvary scout with the U.S. Army since January 2021.

The 23-year-old had been stationed in South Korea, but had recently been held in a prison there on charges of assault, the AP reported. While it is unclear how long he’d been incarcerated, according to CBS News, King was released to U.S. officials at the military hub in the country about a week ago.

Blamemeta ,

Sounds like a man who makes great decisions

InverseParallax ,

He’s a 23 year old pv2.

That’s not just unusual, he must have put in a lot of effort, if you can perform basic tasks they often promote you to pfc right after boot, or at least 6-12 mo later.

Being a pv2 at his age? He sounds like kung-pao way of the fist where they trained him wrong on purpose because it’s funny and now he’s the norks’ problem.

AlpacaChariot , in 2 Women Attacked by Bison While Visiting National Parks

Is this common? People do get attacked by cows in the UK but it’s usually because they have a dog with them and the cows have had a bad experience with dogs in the past or something.

PlasmaDistortion ,

Yes, because bison are unpredictable and at times irrationally angry. Right now it is also mating season which makes the bulls even more temperamental. And humans are stupid and get too close.

ZapBeebz_ ,

It’s relatively common at Yellowstone, BOTH because bison are fucking massive and because tourists are idiots who typically can’t follow simple directions like “Stay 25 yards away AT ALL TIMES. BISON ARE DANGEROUS WILD ANIMALS, YOU MONKEY”.

In all fairness, this case may have just been bad luck, as it sounds like they did most things correctly, and just happened to unfortunately round a corner into a pair of bison. But we’ll have to wait to see for sure.

clockwork_octopus ,

Well, bison are a lot bigger than cows, and they’re not domesticated . Also, people are idiots. I don’t know if these women were being idiots, I couldn’t read the article because paywall, but I’m not holding my breath on the matter.

QuinceDaPence ,

People tend to think the "park" in National Park means it's a controlled environment like a zoo. They don't understand it's the rugged wilderness just with some roads and structures that are just to mitigate the damage from too many tourists, and the animals are dangerous wild animals.

SeaJ , (edited )

FTA it happens about once a year. Bison are fucking huge. I can confirm this because I was at Yellowstone a few days ago and had one about 10m away from our car. I was wondering why people were pulling into a service road and it turned out it was to get closer to the massive wild animal. People are idiots.

That said, it looks like the Woman in this article was not an idiot. They were staying in Yellowstone and two bison happened to get close to where they were. They turned to walk away and one of the bison charged them.

AlpacaChariot ,

You read the article? You obviously didn’t migrate from the other place!

JustZ , in Tupac Shakur: Police search house over 1996 killing
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I hope they solve it. His loss diminished us all.

wheeldawg , in 3-year-old accidentally shoots, kills 1-year-old sibling after getting ahold of unsecured handgun: SDSO

Fuck this is depressing.

This kid is gonna be fucked up the rest of his/her life.

JohnDClay , in Trump stole Israeli artifacts from White House

Do we know what the artifacts were?

paulsmith ,

Yes, the article says they were ancient clay lamps.

tallwookie ,
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maybe he was trying to make a wish, Aladin style

HeavenAndHell , in Trump stole Israeli artifacts from White House
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Trump is literally a 77 year old child and conservatives want this guy to be president. Holy hell, no one can be a Trump supporter and criticize any other president.

Sir_Kevin , in Texas says no inmates have died due to stifling heat in its prisons since 2012. Some data may suggest otherwise
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Even if that was true just because someone isn’t dead doesn’t mean they’re not suffering in horrible, inhumane conditions.

Izzent , in 133 Degrees and No Ac: Kids at Angola Prison Kept in Potentially Deadly Heat
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“potentially” eat shit, whoever typed this

sudo ,
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this article sent from my 69 degree loft apartment in slippers and a chunky knit blanket

Rayspekt , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.

It's comical how she uses the example of the printing press in her introduction. Are we really sad that we don't have to rely on monks copying books?

dethb0y ,

Yeah not to mention do we really need human labor for the jobs she was doing: " I’d work on webpages, branded blogs, online articles, social-media captions, and email-marketing campaigns."

Email marketing campaigns? Social media captions? Branded blogs? You’d think she’d be happy to be free of it.

I imagine the prestige of being able to tell people she was a “professional writer” was worth something to her mentally, but 'cmon…she was a marketing droid. She’s just been replaced by another marketing droid.

SheeEttin ,

Maybe she should pivot to using ML tools to produce the same content she was already writing, but faster.

azdood85 ,

Naw, she should bitch about it to a cheap rag so more people can be sensationalized to the idea that robots are out to take err jawbs.

laylawashere44 ,

It is often argued that Gutenberg, the inventor of the printing press, was the most influential man in history. The printing press is the root of practically everything that we take for granted today. From republican government to basically all technology ever.

AA5B , (edited )

Yes, we do still need to have Monks copying books, but not for the latest Romance Novel. Let the machine do what it does well, and crank out millions of copies of dreck. However the remaining monks might still find good employment going upscale, competing for prestige and quality, rather than quantity or turnaround time.

This author wants to keep turning out quantities of dreck, but now there’s a cheaper way, yet she doesn’t seem interested in trying to upscale to a product where humans are still better than AI (I assume them are what she means by “funnels”)

I’m in the tech field so my point if comparison is outsourcing. We had a couple decades where management decided the most profitable way to do business was outsourcing quantities of dreck to lowest priced providers in third world countries. That even drove racism that hadn’t previously existed. However more recently the companies I work for are more likely to be looking for quality partners or employees in different time zones and price points. Suddenly results are much better now that our primary concern is no longer lowest price. Don’t be a monkey banging on a type writer for an abusive sweatshop in a third world country that can be replaced by someone or something yet cheaper, but upscale to being a respected engineer in a different time zone making a meaningful contribution to the technical base

Lieuwe2019 , in In-N-Out bans employees from wearing masks

Medical studies have shown that social distancing is as effective, if not more effective than wearing a mask.

KLISHDFSDF ,

great, but what’s the harm in wearing a mask?

jaschen ,

How do they social distance the shitty burger they are making with their infected mouth?

YoBuckStopsHere OP , (edited ) in In-N-Out bans employees from wearing masks
@YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world avatar

Fun Fact: Roughly half of all cases of food poisoning in the US are due to sick employees not wearing masks.

Sick Workers Connected to 41 Percent of Food Poisoning Outbreaks, CDC Reports

Izzgo ,

That's an interesting and even plausible sounding statistic. I wonder if you have a source?

Jeff ,

Not OP but I too wanted to know a source so I did a search on this cool new website I invented with Al Gore called google.fu and found this from Smithsonian Magazine:

The study examined 800 foodborne illness outbreaks reported by 25 state and local health departments between 2017 and 2019. Of the roughly 500 outbreaks linked to at least one known contributing factor, 205 of them, or 41 percent, involved ill workers.Jun 2, 202

/s about inventing that with Al Gore. It was actually Tom Landry.

masterofn001 ,

I read that as A.I. gore. Like a poorly designed artificial intellifence.

ronalicious ,

I,for one, support this claim regardless of it’s veracity! :)

YoBuckStopsHere OP ,
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roguetrick ,

What do you base that off of? Most food poisoning is due to bad storage of food resulting in bacterial toxins even after it's cooked. Only Norovirus has an oral route that I can think of (and that's usually based around projectile vomiting that then ends up on hands).

takeda ,
roguetrick , (edited )

? That just says salmonella and norovirus and encourages hand hygiene. Masks wouldn't help there. To be clear, I want safe food handling, I'm just also a nurse and prefer reasonable approaches over theater. Foodborn illness generally doesn't benefit from droplet projections.

takeda ,

Yeah parent poster added the masks into the comment, but the study did not mention them, but as the study says, the improper hand hygiene is responsible for large number of food poisonings.

Why the study doesn't talk about masks? Likely because it was done before pandemic so no one wore masks in that setting. Second thing is that generally they are concerned about serious diseases and if somebody would report catching a cold from eating at restaurant will simply be ignored. People are also less likely to report because it's harder to be sure where cold came from.

Though if diseases transferred via dirty hands caused 41% of outbreaks, then I believe it's safe to say that air borne disease is more likely to transfer that way, it's just a kind of diseases that no one cared about until we had covid, and only in 2020.

CmdrShepard ,

What’s unreasonable about someone else choosing to wear a mask when they’re sick? Even if it’s not causing foodborne illnesses, it’s still spreading the illness to other staff and customers.

roguetrick ,

The comment is nonsense. It's a made up statistic. That's whats unreasonable.

CmdrShepard ,

This “made up statistic” is the “unreasonable approach to safe food handling” that you referred to earlier? That doesn’t make sense as statistics are data not actions to follow when handling food.

Are you arguing that a stranger freely deciding to wear a mask when they’re sick is too unreasonable in your eyes and should be banned? That’s ridiculous.

roguetrick ,

No, I am not arguing that and I don't particularly know why you think I am since I never indicated it. I objected to the idea that masks would prevent half of food borne illnesses, when they would likely prevent none. If you base your actions off of something as ridiculous as that, you are not taking a reasonable approach to safe food handling.

If you think you're arguing with an anti masker, you're not. Like I said, I'm a nurse and provided direct patient care to people dying from COVID.

pizza_rolls ,
@pizza_rolls@kbin.social avatar

The type of people who ban masks are also the type of people that think you should be forced to work when sick 🤮

ashok36 ,

To be fair, if you’re getting food poisoning from someone preparing your food it’s probably not the end covered by the mask that’s the problem.

user_Blue ,

Correlation, not causation. Is my food poisoning orally contagious? A sick employee may care a lot less about the quality of food they’re preparing, causing more people to get sick from rotten food on average. There are too many variables to even consider in this.

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