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Cold_Brew_Enema , in Passengers carted off in stretchers as Vegas flight stranded in extreme heat

Don’t planes have air conditioning?

Armaell ,

@Cold_Brew_Enema when the turbine are on, yes.

But if they aren't, the plane is only working on a battery and then, which is likely the case when the plane is just sitting idle on the tarmac. Then nope.
You just get to enjoy the airflow from a tiny fan while sitting in a metal can under the sun close to hundred of other people

Cold_Brew_Enema ,

Thanks for clarification. I haven’t flown in 15 years or so.

QuinceDaPence , (edited )

If it's at the gate it should be getting ground based aircondition. If it's sitting away from the gate with the engines off the APU should be on and providing aircondition and electrical power especially since you'll be starting the engines at some point and the APU is going to be needed for that anyway.

I don't understand what the issue was.

Edit: and if for some reason none of this was a available, declare an emergency before it gets to this point and either get a bus and air stairs to come get everyone or drive the plane to the nearest gate.

johnlsullivan2 ,

I had a three hour delay at the gate a few weeks ago and didn’t have air conditioning either. It was pretty close to this situation but it was luckily only 93 and not in the 100’s.

penix , in Unhoused Coloradans turn to methamphetamine as a form of protection

No, you don’t understand, I had to use the meth.

Thepinyaroma ,

It’s not that anyone had to do anything.

But if a particular demographic is dying more frequently of a specific cause, it’s worth digging into why that’s happening. These are people for fucks sake.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

I think deep down the idea of a world where things like this happen to individuals who don’t deserve it terrifies a lot of people, so they bend over backwards looking for ways to justify it

dreadgoat ,
@dreadgoat@kbin.social avatar

AKA Absurdism

The world is less frightening if it makes sense, even if the ways it makes sense don't make sense.

penix ,

Oof, man, bums dying from doing meth. Welp. Now who will live in the dumpsters and stink like shit when they harass normal people?

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

How does it feel to be a crab in a bucket?

I swear, some people live for the opportunity to look down their nose at someone. If not for that feeling of smug superiority, they might have to face the societal failures that could put themselves in the exact spot.

No, better to think you’re too good to hit rock-bottom than face the fact that anyone could be thrown away by the hierarchy that you put so much misplaced faith in.

Our society has made a choice that some people should be homeless. Instead of reflecting on that fact, you assist in dehumanizing those who you clearly know nothing about. What a cool dude.

penix ,

Nah homie. I manage my meth addiction by not doing meth. Therefore, I don’t die. Ezpzpi. Bums reap what they sow.

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Not your “homie.”

And you didn’t address anything I said.

I can see introspection isn’t your strong suit.

penix ,

Sure thing, homie! I’m not in a “crabs in a bucket” scenario because I am not a street garbage piece of shit meth lover. I would probably consider myself more of an “arm the homeless” kind of guy because they’ll just kill each other and then the police will come in and sweep up the dregs. And I’m a “feed the homeless” kind of guy, but more like feed them sandwiches with marbles and thumbtacks in them so they break their teeth and get infections. You need to be proactive, like running entire homeless encampments through industrial shredders and then bulldozing the resultant slurry into the ocean. 😉

Zombiepirate ,
@Zombiepirate@lemmy.world avatar

Like I said, what a cool guy.

It takes a real winner to be an edgelord in 2023.

Love that for you. All of your friends must be so happy to know you.

SheeEttin ,

You are, without a doubt, the worst kind of human being.

Blamemeta ,

Homeless dying from drug overdoes has been dug into. Turns out druggies tend to become homeless to feed their addictions.

BarrelAgedBoredom ,

That is a gross, incorrect, and dehumanizing oversimplification of a terrible problem. It’s a deep shame developed countries haven’t completely solved homelessness.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

So what’s the solution?

Blamemeta ,

Offer them help, which we are, but it’s ultimately their decision to accept that help.

SatansMaggotyCumFart ,

So you’re criticizing the problem without offering a solution because your answer says nothing.

DannyMac , in Does The Kentucky Attorney General Go To Work? An Investigation.
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I’d love to know how he plans to spin this, lol

leftenddev , in Passengers carted off in stretchers as Vegas flight stranded in extreme heat
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I wonder if it ever crossed that Fox producers mind in those moments, that this was also her fault with helping run a network with the mission of denying and increasing climate change

Kalkaline ,
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I can confidently say they don’t care.

Hank , in A 16-year-old has died at a Mississippi poultry processing plant, county coroner says

Should've been careful around those sharp talons.

qwertyqwertyqwerty ,

That’s a good point. I don’t know anything about poultry processing plants, but is there dangerous (to human) equipment in these facilities, and why would a 16 year old be using said equipment? I remember working at Wendy’s and I wasn’t even allowed to use the chicken fryer at that age.

oSillyScope ,

Republicans have been rolling back child labor regulations and protections in multiple states claiming it will save us from the labor shortage. I’m surprised it has taken me this long to see a story about the predictably disastrous results of this exploitative behavior. In the US capitalism is winning and the citizens of this country are losing.

NeedingvsGetting ,

July 1st, a 16-year-old died in a sawmill accident in northern Wisconsin. At the same time, the gerrymandered-as-hell state legislature is trying to eliminate child labor laws. Thank god we currently have a governor with a modicum of decency to veto the garbage.

shadowSprite ,

“Immigrants will take our jobs!”

“No one wants to work anymore!”

“Let’s hire children to fix the labor shortages”

Hank ,
Kolanaki , (edited )
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I worked at a Foster Farms processing facility, and even in just the shipping department there are machines that could take your fucking head off and other things that could crush you if you’re not paying attention (which is hard because it’s also dark and loud). The rest of the plant is just as dangerous, if not more so. It’s one of the reasons I quit.

SheeEttin ,

Yeah, my money is on the kid being inside a machine that you’re not supposed to be in, plus not being properly locked out/tagged out. When you’re a kid and the boss says “go clean out the machine”, you don’t really think “hmm, maybe there’s a safer way to do this”, you think “boss says do it, so it must be okay”. You just don’t have the experience.

Selmafudd ,

I worked at what I would call a medium size plant, we processed 80-120k a day. There are a few minor crush hazards but honestly the biggest dangers would be accidents involving forklifts or trucks.

aegis_sum ,

Pretty sure it’s just a Napoleon Dynamite reference.

joel_feila ,
@joel_feila@lemmy.world avatar

yes there are lots of sharp knifes and blades everywhere and fast moving conveyor belts.

henfredemars , in Texas says no inmates have died due to stifling heat in its prisons since 2012. Some data may suggest otherwise

Of course they have. The cruelty is the point. They confuse justice for retribution.

leftenddev , in Texas city strictly limits water consumption as thousands across state face water shortages
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Texas: no water and AC in the summer, no heat and electricity in the winter

henfredemars ,

I’m feeling so owned right now.

Kalkaline ,
@Kalkaline@lemmy.one avatar

This is somehow California’s fault.

Enigma ,

If California wasn’t a liberal hellhole then all the MAGAs wouldn’t have moved to Texas! Fucking California sending their people here to steal our resources!

newthrowaway20 , (edited )

Sorry for all the downvotes. I understood it was sarcasm.

Enigma ,

I thought it would be clear with the parent comment but apparently not.

Kiosade ,

Unfortunately there are more MAGA idiots in California than there are in Texas. They didnt move there because of that one thing alone.

Assassin4 ,

As an outsider, can I ask why is there no ac in summer, nor electric in winter there?

Mrrt ,
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As an outsider I assume it’s because their ‘independant’ (read: under-regulated) power grid collapses every time all that stuff turns on.

QuinceDaPence ,

Recently we had an exceptionally cold winter staying below freezing for multiple days. Since winter is usually fairly temperate with most days having lows in the 40s (I usually only use the heater at night and have windows open during the day). and only going a degree or two below freezing for a couple of hours, a lot of houses here are not particularly suited to cold weather. We have fairly inefficient resistive electric heat in many houses, and pipes are not particularly well insulated for cold weather.

It got well below freezing for a couple of days, and already several power plants were shut down for maintenance since winter is typically low demand. Anyway, all of this combined to result in the grid being overloaded, doing rolling blackouts, and then peoples pipes froze as well because of that.

Also the Texas power grid is isolated from the other US grids so importing power is not an option.

Since then I have noticed a lot more solar farms, mini natural gas peaker plants/backup generators and other upgrades being put in on backroads when I go for a motorcycle ride.

CarrierLost , in Texas city strictly limits water consumption as thousands across state face water shortages
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Insanity. And they keep building more homes.

TeamDman , in 133 Degrees and No Ac: Kids at Angola Prison Kept in Potentially Deadly Heat

OJJ policy states that children can be sent to Angola from other facilities for any number of reasons, including committing certain acts of violence against a staff member or possessing marijuana. Even kids determined to have a serious mental illness or “significant developmental disabilities” can be transferred to the unit.

Charles C. was hospitalized at 10 years old and diagnosed with schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and ADHD, according to a previous statement submitted to the court. He was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder after being shot at age 13 and has been hospitalized several times for mental health crises.Ah yes, let’s starve our children and put them in oven jail… Because of weed and mental health. That sounds healthy.

gAlienLifeform OP ,
@gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world avatar

Hell, even if they were rapists or murderers they shouldn’t be getting treated like this -

Children incarcerated on the former death row unit of Louisiana’s Angola prison were locked in their cells without air conditioning for several days this month amid scorching summer temperatures, according to a teenager held at the facility. The child, identified by the pseudonym Charles C., said in a statement to his attorney that the kids were only let out of their cells for an eight-minute shower, which they had to take while handcuffed with their ankles shackled.

On Monday night, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and other legal groups submitted statements from young people held at Angola to the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Louisiana. The plaintiffs asked the court to order State officials to immediately move all kids out of the unit and to cease transfers into the unit. With heat indexes in the surrounding area reaching as high as 133 degrees this month, a medical expert for the plaintiffs warned the court that the conditions could be fatal.

“I would not dare to keep my dog in these conditions for fear of my dog dying,” Dr. Susi U. Vassallo, a medical expert for the plaintiffs, wrote in a statement submitted to the court. “It has been dangerously hot in Angola so far this summer. Confining children for all or most of the day to concrete and cement buildings without air conditioning is foolhardy and perilous.”

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indomara ,

I thought a child could not be formally diagnosed with bipolar… It is also extremely rare for a child under 13 to have schizophrenia. This poor kid.

SharkEatingBreakfast , in Woman gored by Bison at Yellowstone
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Some people legitimately have no idea how to act around wild animals because the only animals they’ve ever interacted with are pets or non-lethal “pest” animals (seagulls, pigeons, etc.). Those unfamiliar may often see parks as a petting zoo photo op.

Hell, the last time I posted on Facebook was to warn the neighborhood that there was a dodgy-lookin’ raccoon out in the middle of the day and to tell their kids walking home from school not to approach it.

The amount of replies telling me to feed it, approach it, pet it, (or discharge a firearm in a residential area) were staggering. Grown adults. So I am not surprised that folks make bad decisions around wildlife.

AlpacaChariot , in 2 Women Attacked by Bison While Visiting National Parks

Is this common? People do get attacked by cows in the UK but it’s usually because they have a dog with them and the cows have had a bad experience with dogs in the past or something.

PlasmaDistortion ,

Yes, because bison are unpredictable and at times irrationally angry. Right now it is also mating season which makes the bulls even more temperamental. And humans are stupid and get too close.

ZapBeebz_ ,

It’s relatively common at Yellowstone, BOTH because bison are fucking massive and because tourists are idiots who typically can’t follow simple directions like “Stay 25 yards away AT ALL TIMES. BISON ARE DANGEROUS WILD ANIMALS, YOU MONKEY”.

In all fairness, this case may have just been bad luck, as it sounds like they did most things correctly, and just happened to unfortunately round a corner into a pair of bison. But we’ll have to wait to see for sure.

clockwork_octopus ,

Well, bison are a lot bigger than cows, and they’re not domesticated . Also, people are idiots. I don’t know if these women were being idiots, I couldn’t read the article because paywall, but I’m not holding my breath on the matter.

QuinceDaPence ,

People tend to think the "park" in National Park means it's a controlled environment like a zoo. They don't understand it's the rugged wilderness just with some roads and structures that are just to mitigate the damage from too many tourists, and the animals are dangerous wild animals.

SeaJ , (edited )

FTA it happens about once a year. Bison are fucking huge. I can confirm this because I was at Yellowstone a few days ago and had one about 10m away from our car. I was wondering why people were pulling into a service road and it turned out it was to get closer to the massive wild animal. People are idiots.

That said, it looks like the Woman in this article was not an idiot. They were staying in Yellowstone and two bison happened to get close to where they were. They turned to walk away and one of the bison charged them.

AlpacaChariot ,

You read the article? You obviously didn’t migrate from the other place!

Thepinyaroma , in Unhoused Coloradans turn to methamphetamine as a form of protection

Never tried meth but I was homeless for a time. I can absolutely see why you’d flock to it if you live on the street.

It’s not safe to sleep, even more so at night. Cops make a habit of stealing/destroying your stuff, and because of that other homeless people steal your shit. It makes you feel invincible, helps you ignore the cold, and 10 bucks keeps you high for 2 days.

It’s all well and good to say don’t do drugs, but not having a place can really change your priorities in ways you’d never expect.

rebelsimile , in Passengers carted off in stretchers as Vegas flight stranded in extreme heat

“We know you have a choice in places to obtain a heatstroke today…”

Viking_Hippie , (edited ) in Texas says no inmates have died due to stifling heat in its prisons since 2012. Some data may suggest otherwise

Texas state officials LYING?! SURELY an upstanding and above all honest gentleman like Abbott would never let such a thing happen!

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/0acf8238-0945-4164-aa34-d854f7882598.jpeg

/s

Blamemeta , in Watch: Fiery crash as passenger train ploughs into truck in Indonesia

How fucking hard is it to stay off the fucking tracks? This is not rocket science

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