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squidman , in She Steals Surfboards by the Seashore. She’s a Sea Otter.

Lol, maaan, I posted this story to the upliftingnews community two weeks ago and it got removed for “not being uplifting.” What’s not uplifting about a cute little otter stealing surfboards?

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

The inspector Closou’s trying to catch the pink otter sea panther.

squidman ,

I haven’t seen those old movies in years 👴

vlad76 , (edited ) in AP psychology course can’t be offered over gender identity, sexual orientation lessons, College Board says
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

I’m going to take a step back from the topic itself.

I think the real problem here is that we can’t agree on what “fact” is. Both sides are certain that they are correct. Both sides can present what they believe is scientific evidence. How do we move forward from that? Both sides simply discredit the sources used in the science the other side is presenting. It seems that both sides are using brute force to push their belief. And that seems to just make the other side angrier and more dug in. How do we have conversations anymore?

Edit: oof. Yeah, that is where we are.

archiotterpup ,

Well, one side has the APA. The other side has Jesus. I wonder who actually has facts. It’s a mystery.

ronalicious ,

I appreciate that you’re trying to be reasonable, but one side (and you know which) isn’t even going to be…

vlad76 ,
@vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

It’s both. I’ve been called a Trump supporter, a “Jew shill”, and a liberal snowflake, all in the same week. I find it fascinating, talking to very opinionated people. Doesn’t matter what it is. Even if I think they’re right about whatever that topic is, I find that people become incredibly hostile if you ask them something they don’t have an answer for, if it might challenge their beliefs.

protist , (edited )

The problem is you’re approaching this from a place of complete ignorance on what the science actually is. You’re saying “both sides have science,” but that’s fundamentally not true. One side has the entire fields of medicine and psychology, which contain some internal disagreement on issues around the margins, but overwhelmingly agree on basic concepts. The other side latches on to single studies or portions of conclusions of studies taken out of context that confirm their existing beliefs. If there were science behind the Republican position on these issues, you’d be able to cite it here, so please do

Lemmylefty ,
@Lemmylefty@lemmy.world avatar

I find that the people who purport to an academic view of fights over human rights tend to be those whose rights are not (now) in question, and that they find more entertainment in the emotions at play than in empathizing with those who feel said emotions makes me question their willingness or ability to change their own stance.

Neutrality is a starting point. Where you choose to go from there is an expression of your character.

Dionysus ,

We can’t have conversations because one side argues in bad faith, makes shit up, and behaves like fucking gremlins by defunding services then claiming they don’t work.

Sure, step away from the topic itself. Blue states don’t have post birth abortions, slavery did not benefit African American, climate change is not a hoax, and Rosa Parks was protesting racism. Claiming otherwise isn’t “alternative facts”, they’re just fucking lies.

“Both sides” - fucking brainlet.

Pokadots ,

Only one side chooses to lie because the facts actually aren’t on their side

Dionysus ,

I mean, liberals and leftists lie too, but not in the same way. I’ve read right wing articles from “climate activists” where googling the author’s name reveals they’re associated with the oil industry. Judicial Watch misrepresented IRS transcripts and created articles linking to the transcripts, claiming they said things they just do not say.

I don’t run into those same kinds of lies from liberals and the left. It’s notable.

Blamemeta ,

Yeah, the left is definitely one side, and they definitely argue in bad faith.

rbhfd ,

No, you.

Great input.

Terces ,

A long time ago we actually agreed on a process for fact finding. It is one that has served us well for hundreds of years (more so in the last 150 years, once we really had a foundational understanding of the world based on previously established facts). The whole “you look at the world, draw conclusions and test them” - system is not new and it works. That is science. It’s not a question of what people believe to be fact, but in believing in the process of establishing them. One side is systematically trying to undermine the very basis of science. It is impossible to use science or data or facts to convince someone like that that their position is wrong.

feedum_sneedson ,

Postmodernism has no place in the sciences, really.

MerrySkeptic ,

Yes, if only there were some kind of systemized method of some sort for approaching scientific questions. Alas…

Eternity_html ,

bOtH SiDeS

What the hell are you on about? The APA’s official statement on the treatment of transgender individuals is far more prudent than bigoted politics. Here it is if you actually care, but I’m betting you dont.

Hellsadvocate ,

This is typically why they want to discredit science. So they can just make up facts on the fly.

  1. This new science is woke, old science that agrees precisely with what I believe is fact.
  2. The science is not true period. Why? Because listen to these made up fuckin anecdotes and just go with me what if it wasn’t true.
  3. That homeless dude right there is an actual scientist.

Whatever it takes.

Im14abeer ,

The subject at hand is accreditation of a course in psychology,. Tell me how you on one hand call transgenderism a mental illness and on the other refuse to teach - in an AP course - the subject of gender and sexuality. I’d submit there are a number subjects we can “both sides” about, but what’s happening in Florida ain’t it. There’s nothing to be debated here anyway, College Board (may they step on Lego) says if you don’t teach the AP curriculum, you don’t get the credit.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

Why would you waste a perfectly good Lego?

I got some thumb tacks I won’t ever use because they’re kinda big and ugly. You’re welcome to them…

irotsoma ,
@irotsoma@lemmy.world avatar

That’s just the thing. One side isn’t using scientific evidence. There is a process to science. You can’t use the simplified version of gender taught to kids and say it’s scientific. Just like you can’t say that the year is 365 days long like kids are taught at first. Then they learn about leap years and it’s actually 365 and a quarter days. Then they learn about leap seconds. Ok so then there must be some fraction of a second in addition to the 365.25 days. Then they learn about wobble, the gravity of the planets, and everything else that makes it not a constant. It’s something that has to be analyzed every year to decide if one is needed yet. It’s complicated. So just like kids are taught 365 days in a year, they are taught that there are 2 genders that are caused by one of two combinations of chromosomes. Then they learn about intersex people and people born with vaginas who have an x chromosome and people with 3 chromosomes, etc.

So sure, if you’re a child it’s ok to think there are two genders chosen based on a single chromosome difference. But it’s not ok to pretend it’s that simple and call it truth and scientific evidence that your teachers taught it that way.

Blamemeta ,

Don’tbother, lemmy is filled with leftists.

Hyggyldy ,

Can’t have any of that scary compassion getting in to your heads, eh?

raltoid , (edited )

The fact that you even think that “both sides” is a valid argument, means that your opinion is literally worthless.

Because either you are intentionally arguing in bad faith and you know you’re lying, or you actually believe that. Which means you lack the mental capacity to see something objectively.

febra ,

Enlightened centrism at its finest, completely missing the entire point.

FuglyDuck ,
@FuglyDuck@lemmy.world avatar

… not even really all that enlightened….

markr ,

Centrists in a fascist era are simply part of the fascist movement.

literallydogshit ,

Group 1: I understand that transgenderism is legitimate and supported by science. People should be able to identify as the gender they feel most comfortable.

Group 2: I want to FUCKING kill EVERYONE in group one!

Centrists: Why can’t both sides just see eye to eye already and get along? I am so smart.

feedum_sneedson ,

I’m not sure Group 2 is being fairly represented.

PRUSSIA_x86 ,
itsJoelle ,

My parents are gay. Do you think it’s wrong to “brute force” that they do, indeed, exist and are harmless?

Ghostalmedia ,
@Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world avatar

One side presets a handful random jankie ass studies as science, the other side presents mountains of massive rigorous studies, that people have rerun and pressure tested.

There is no “both sides.”

One side is using the scientific method, the other is cherry picking crap to support a belief they’ve already formed.

emeralddawn45 ,

I think the sky is green, and that homeless dude down on the corner agrees with me. But everyone else just insists that the sky is blue and calls me crazy. Why can’t we agree on facts? I know the sky is green so I’m never going to change my mind, but why can’t we just agree? How do we fix that?

CapraObscura ,

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  • HeyJoe , in Hyundai and Kia recall nearly 92,000 vehicles and tell owners to park them outside due to fire risk

    I have been wanting a new car for about 6 years now… money issues keep me from doing it. Amazingly my 16 year old car that I’ve had the entire 16 years is still kicking. Anyway for the last 6 years I’ve always said I am going to buy a Hyundai Sonata next, at least a used one. Every year that goes by the more and more I hear terrible things about them… at this point I really don’t think I can invest in them. How are they really screwing up this badly for so long? Fix your stuff! At this point they had to have lost trust in a large amount of its customers. The sad thing is I honestly have no idea what car I want now because none of them looked that good for the same price as the Sonata.

    TonyTonyChopper ,
    @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz avatar

    Honda

    HeyJoe ,

    I currently have a Nissan Sentra. Just looked at the Honda Accord which seems to be the only higher end sedan and its not bad compared to some I looked at but still doesn’t look as nice as the Sonata and is more expensive for less. I’ll keep this one bookmarked to look at it some more, thanks!

    Dark_Blade ,
    @Dark_Blade@lemmy.world avatar

    Get a second-hand Camry.

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    Mazdas are really good now. under Ford they were just okay

    HeyJoe ,

    Doesn’t look like they have a sedan? It’s the only type of car I am looking for. The hatchback one does look nice, I am just not a fan of that style.

    EddoWagt ,

    They so have a sedan, the Mazda 6! Looks beautiful in my opinion

    HeyJoe , (edited )

    You are right, I was just looking at the main site. For whatever reason all I see for 2024 models is the hatchback. I just switched to 2023 and found it. Although I only see the Mazda 3, now I have to look for the 6. Not sure why they make it so hard to find the cars.

    Edit: after looking some more I found that the 6 was discontinued. Nobody loves sedans anymore!

    EddoWagt ,

    Ahh so they did, I wasn’t sure so I didn’t mention it. 2023 was the last year then… A used one can still be very new I suppose.

    I guess even Mazda has to comply to the demand for SUVs and Crossovers…

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    boo for suv/xover. i was a mazda tech and now a hyundai tech and their engines are going left and right, especially the 1.6. check tour oil every 1k

    HeyJoe ,

    Yeah I will absolutely be buying used this time around. The cost difference of a car only 3 years old makes it very hard to go new. I was just looking on their site to get the information, that is a first time a car just didn’t exist anymore like that for me!

    EddoWagt ,

    Yeah new cars are not worth it for most people, I’ve only heard good things about new Mazda’s so definitely worth doing some research on

    TheMightyCanuck ,
    @TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Currently drive a 07 mazda 6. It’s a bit of a boat compared to smaller sedans like the Hyundai but it drives like a dream. Maintenance isn’t too pricey either

    Tinks ,

    My husband has an '06 Mazda Speed 6 and I swear it’s the most reliable car I’ve ever seen. It’s only been to the shop for repair a few times ever, and it’s been weird stuff like the AC went out, nothing major. Pretty sure my husband has spent more on tires and oil changes than repairs for that car. It’s been an absolute beast.

    TheMightyCanuck ,
    @TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Yup. Sounds like mine to a tee. Ac recharge and a bad coolant temp sensor are it for “major” repairs.

    CapraObscura ,

    You’ll find people that swear Lexus is shit.

    Just buy the fucking car and maintain it properly. You will likely never have an issue.

    HeyJoe ,

    When I was dating my wife she had a used 06 Lexus hybrid. I would like to agree with you but our experience wasn’t very good either. Great car when it was fine but definitely found out the hard way to never hold onto a luxury car longer than 5-6 years. It’s not a problem that things start going, which is to be expected, it’s that they cost significantly more to have repaired. So even the little things started adding up. Thankfully my father is a mechanic and helped when he could but even the parts cost more than a regular car. Just have to find that fine line of when to sell before worrying about all the wear and tear stuff because it adds up quick.

    CapraObscura ,

    If you can’t afford a Lexus you buy a Toyota. Which is also expensive to repair. Because everything is, because cars are expensive.

    My point was the Lexus has, for a long time, been the most reliable brand out there. And they’re still shit sometimes.

    SamboT , in It’s midwinter, but it’s over 100 degrees in South America

    Jesus just type F/C each time. Don’t find a new way to phrase their comparison for every mention of temperature.

    PenguinJuice , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."

    Dude this is fuckinf repulsive.

    ryannathans , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."

    I owe my soul to the company store

    odysee.com/…/Johnny-Cash---Sixteen-Tons-(Official…

    AnonymousLlama , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."
    @AnonymousLlama@kbin.social avatar

    For 99 bucks there better be a great bed, amenities and other hotel like services. What a joke

    TWeaK , in Superconductor claims spark investor frenzy, but scientists are skeptical

    Nice to see some tempered analysis in response to the hype the other week from the initial papers.

    My only concern is that many labs attempting to verify the claims may fail at the specific manufacturing of the material, as it sounds like it isn’t easy to make.

    SheeEttin ,

    Isn’t easy is still possible, which is a huge improvement. Typically, developing more efficient manufacturing processes is the next step.

    TWeaK ,

    I’m not sure there is much more they can do to make it more efficient, it’s just an inherently tricky thing. They have to put the copper ions somewhere they really don’t want to go. It’s like trying to flick a marble up a slope to a flat spot at the top - you have to give it just the right amount of energy or it will fall back down either before or after the flat spot you want it at.

    Grant_M , in What Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orbán Understand About Your Brain
    @Grant_M@lemmy.ca avatar

    Really great read here. Short and to the point. 👍🏻

    baascus , in AP psychology course can’t be offered over gender identity, sexual orientation lessons, College Board says
    @baascus@lemmy.world avatar

    Apparently my free article limit was 0

    DarkGamer ,
    @DarkGamer@kbin.social avatar

    Perhaps this will help. (Tool to get around paywall.)

    ArmokGoB ,

    Use archive.is. The 12 ft. ladder dev sold out to the NYT.

    dhork , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."

    $99 a night? That’s cheaper than most apartments there…

    itsdavetho ,

    Yeah wtf I just looked and it says avg 1bdrm is $3500+

    Tigbitties ,
    @Tigbitties@kbin.social avatar

    That doesn't make it ok.

    brambledog ,

    Yes, if you just don’t build houses for anybody but the wealthiest, you make more money for less work.

    People gotta realize that the housing crisis was the “free market” solution.

    Alto , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."
    @Alto@kbin.social avatar

    God this dystopia is so boring

    skellener ,
    @skellener@kbin.social avatar

    And evil.

    skellener , in Google is charging its employees $99 a night to stay at its on-campus hotel to help "transition to the hybrid workplace."
    @skellener@kbin.social avatar

    😡

    rdrunner , in Hyundai and Kia recall nearly 92,000 vehicles and tell owners to park them outside due to fire risk

    I once saw someone refer to Kia and Hyundai as the “fast fashion” of the auto industry. Now I can’t help but look at them and see h&m. It looks trendy, and it’s great for one or two wears, and then it falls apart

    glimse ,

    I’ve had 3 Hyundais and they were all great for years. Never had any problems with them and figured it’d be my go-to affordable car.

    But then my car got stolen (and recovered) because of their cost-cutting bullshit and they’ve been fuckin awful to deal with. It was at the dealership for 5+ weeks and on the day I was supposed to pick it up, they broke a part and wanted me to pay more to fix it. Then, because I was an idiot who didn’t test it before paying, I found out that my remote start now sets off my alarm. And they told me it’s not their problem.

    So yeah, fuck Hyundai.

    extant ,

    I bought a Sonata years ago and it ran great for a few years then it just started dying, burning oil with blue smoke when I start the car, really sluggish acceleration, and if I turn eco mode on the car basically has a stroke and sounds like it’s going to explode if I try and get on a highway.

    I took it in and they told me there’s nothing wrong with it quite literally while a blue cloud of smoke shot out the exhaust when they were telling me it’s fine. They refuse to acknowledge anythings wrong.

    Had to get a part replaced which meant they had to remove the dashboard to do it, realize after I leave when I go to get gas that the gas cap won’t open nor the trunk. So I assume they forgot to plug back in those buttons (they are on the same wiring harness), they tell me it was the fuse and it’s either $75 to replace the fuse or $150 to diagnose it. It was working fine before they had it and I have no aftermarket mods, have never touched the wiring, and never touched the battery, but they just did so it makes sense that within this short period of time the cause of the fuse is from their work. It’s not something that I can prove but it’s the most logical reason and fuses are dirt cheap but nope, they not just denied it they then tried to gaslight me.

    First he said it was an old fuse and that’s why it went, I’m not electrical engineer and fuses can corrode this one was clean and fuses don’t just go bad they have too high a voltage traveling and they melt that’s their purpose. So after that explanation the guy told me that they never had to touch the dashboard so it couldn’t be them and goes into this very detailed technical explanation of how they can do what they needed to do (replace the steering wheel coupler). I told him I watched a YouTube video from their official techs showing how the part is replaced and the entire steering wheel column has to be dropped out and/or removed to replace it, one of their techs happens by and we ask him and he confirms what I said. So now the goal post moves again and he tells me that they did have to remove the dashboard and interact with those systems but by simply pushing the button in the manner the system is designed for the system will short out. I point out that sounds like a design flaw and should be covered under the warranty, they told me it’s not.

    I was literally thinking of buying a new car to get Android auto as my sonata was prior to that addition, but when their own techs use the argument that their cars are garbage so they shouldn’t be responsible there’s no way I’d buy Hyundai again so now I’m waiting on availability to buy a new Toyota. So yeah, really fuck Hyundai and Hyundai of Trenton especially.

    corsicanguppy ,

    Trenton

    I think I found the problem. :-P

    extant ,

    You are not wrong.

    glimse ,

    How hilariously similar.

    The thing they refused to accept responsibility for breaking was the air bag spring. Where is the air bag spring? Under the steering wheel, exactly where they were working (everything was ripped out to steal it)

    I called my insurance guy up in a panic and he bitched them out. In his report he even said he expected the spring to be replaced…

    extant ,

    I’m glad you had your insurance company to back you up because it feels like their go-to policy is to gaslight and stonewall until you give up or they get tired and give in. It would be great if we could just cut out dealerships altogether.

    glimse ,

    Man my insurance guy was so great. I knew I’d like him when he called me because he was one of only TWO people who didn’t say “have a good day” at the end of the call. Bitch, my car got stolen and now it’s all fucked up. My day is NOT going to be good.

    jpreston2005 ,

    I mean, that sounds more like a shitty dealership problem?

    glimse ,

    Except for the whole thing where they removed a pretty crucial security feature which led to a MAJOR car theft trend causing a shortage of replacement parts. And that they didnt plan to do anything about it until the government stepped in.

    As for the remote start, it was installed at the dealership when I bought the car but no one will service it because it’s third party (they didn’t make Hyundai remote starts for my car when I bought it)

    Yeah the dealership sucked but Hyundai fumbled hard with the immobilizers and now there’s another significant recall a few months later. I’m off the Hyundai train.

    CapraObscura ,

    Except it doesn’t if you actually pay attention to reliability data that consistently puts them in the top ten of all manufacturers, sometimes higher depending on model.

    Not the best, but not the level of trash you’re talking about here.

    4am , in Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000
    @4am@lemmy.world avatar

    Heated seats you have to pay to unlock (but regardless have to pay to haul around) is the most late stage capitalist brainworm bullshit.

    It should be illegal, and/or it should NOT be illegal to hack around the paywall if you purchase the car.

    Sketchpad01 ,

    Wouldn’t it not be illegal to hack it? Since you own the hardware?

    InverseParallax ,

    You can hack the hardware but you can’t hack the software if they tried to stop you.

    The dmca is a disaster.

    Chriskmee ,

    If you own a computer it doesn’t mean you have full control over the software on it. It’s not legal to download a trial version of Microsoft office then hack it to remove the trial timer and turn it into the full product that costs money.

    kewjo ,

    imo its a bit different as they are using physical resources and then artificially limiting access. a better comparison would be getting a motherboard and having to pay extra to use some of the usb ports.

    I think eventually there should be laws against wasting physical resources for monetary gain. if they want two models, make it such that they either don’t meet manufacturing requirements and are hard disabled (similar to cpu yield) or produce one with and one without.

    Chriskmee ,

    There will always be some hardware waste, like even if your car doesn’t have fog lights, but the trim levels up from yours do, you probably still have all the wiring needed for the fog lights there. It’s easier to make one wire bundle than one for every config.

    When it comes to stuff like heated seats I agree it seems like quite a waste and they should either just be included or not installed.

    With Tesla specifically, I think this rear heated seat thing came about from when they wanted to reduce the sale price of the cheapest model 3 so that it was eligible for a federal rebate. They did this by software locking features that you could later pay to unlock. Besides the heated seats, they also locked the battery capacity, and maybe another thing or two. For that one rebate is probably not worth making a physically new model.

    El_Gryphon ,

    You wouldn’t download a car

    tacosplease ,

    Send me a link and watch what happens!

    And yes I know you are joking too :)

    vacuumflower ,

    most late stage capitalist

    I mean, whatever you call it, opposition to this particular phenomenon would unite the militia and sovereign citizen kinds of people in USA (of what I’ve heard about) and ancoms and ansyns and ancaps everywhere and “citizens of the USSR” in the ex-USSR and reichsbuergers in Germany and I can go on.

    Selling the same thing which differs in price and whether the same functionality is locked is something universally dishonest for everybody who is not in love with the organization doing this.

    winterayars ,

    It’s fucking wasteful. A sign of absolutely deranged capitalism.

    reverendsteveii ,

    You hype to never own anything again? Corporations have realized that they’re essentially immortal and that the more stuff they have for rent, the less likely it is they’ll ever have to sell any of it. I wish I could stick around for three or four more generations because I’ll bet that eventually not only will regular people just never expect to own a home, but they’ll all be so marketed-to by the landlords that it’ll be considered common sense that buying a home is a bad idea.

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