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NatakuNox , in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet
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Remember when fossil fuel company scientists discovered their industry was warming the earth at an alarming rate? They predicted the end of humanity as we know it if we didn’t stop? And now people are seriously arguing the more proven science?

Chainweasel ,

Honestly no, and not because it didn’t happen, but because it happened in 1896 before even my great grandparents were born. 127 years and 5 generations later and people are still denying that it’s happening at all and there’s been very little meaningful progress to move away from fossil fuels in that time. Things won’t start to get better until climate change kills enough people off that we can no longer sustain an industrial society.

MercuryUprising ,

Things will never get better. When we can’t sustain an industrial society then people will start murdering each other for the dwindling resources we have left. This is the best it’s going to ever be in anyone alive’s lifetime.

Chainweasel ,

Well, maybe not for us, but the earth will eventually heal once we’re gone.

MercuryUprising ,

No it will not. There is absolutely zero evidence of that, and if anything, the ocean warming levels point to the contrary. It can just as easily spiral into the opposite direction and create a greenhouse style system like you see on Venus. Even if we died today, biodiversity levels would take millions of years to get back to pre-industrial levels.

BillyTheMountain ,

Well, maybe not for us, but the earth will eventually heal once we’re gone.

Even if we died today, biodiversity levels would take millions of years to get back to pre-industrial levels.

So you agree.

MercuryUprising ,

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  • girlfreddy ,
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    MercuryUprising ,

    It’s a great show, I’ve seen it. The problem is the rate of ocean acidification is unprecedented at this speed in our geological history, and that our current level hasn’t been hit in 300 million years, and we’re still trucking. This could create an irreversible change.

    The other thing to factor in is this will be it for intelligent life. We won’t get another chance at a species progressing the way we did because much of the world’s easily accessible oil has been used up.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @MercuryUprising

    No previous life form based its expansion on oil like we did. And no previous life, in its unfathomable diversity, was even close to prior ones in shape, form or ability.

    Why would you think that a future intelligent form would turn out like us and base its existence on fossil fuels?

    MercuryUprising ,

    Basic evolutionary and technological processes, I guess. Combustible fuels are the simplest step a species can take.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @MercuryUprising

    Since every evolutionary era, when devastation then a rise of life occured, the new life forms were more advanced than the previous.

    It's likely that whatever life develops after we're gone will find more ecologically-sound ways to progress than we did. And that's a good thing, cause we were for shit at it.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @MercuryUprising @Chainweasel

    "No it will not. There is absolutely zero evidence of that ..."

    Wrong. There is lots of evidence of that through the geological record.

    MercuryUprising ,

    The evidence in the geological record shows that this level of ocean acidification has never been hit this quickly before. This level of ocean acidificaion is the highest its been in 300 million years and there is nothing indicating it has any intention of going down.

    girlfreddy ,
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    @MercuryUprising

    The oceans have healed before and are far more capable of that than you seem to think.

    Will it take millions of years? Ofc it will. But it will happen, because as long as there is one single-celled organism that survives our self-immolation it will grow and produce and evolve.

    schroedingershat ,

    Fuck off, shill.

    Burn_The_Right ,

    Normal people aren’t denying it at all. Conservatives are denying it. That’s it. Conservatives. A blend of idiots and their leaders who are paid by the pollutors.

    Conservatives should be shunned and excluded from polite society. They are proactively killing us and we just walk among them as if they are normal people. They are not.

    Hellsadvocate ,

    And if anyone thinks that deaths will cause them to change their mind then you clearly didn’t pay attention during the COVID era.

    schroedingershat ,

    Eunice Foote’s experiments in 1856 and the documentation of acid rain in the 1850s were sufficient information to stop expansion of fossil fuels without a clear and precise picture of their effects.

    MercuryUprising ,

    Remember when climate change was identified for the past 60 years and people just ended up buying bigger houses, bigger cars, and consuming more?

    NatakuNox ,
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    This problem can’t be solved on the individual level. Governments need to say enough. Not just to the fossil fuel companies but also some of the people on the center left. Nuclear power is currently the only viable option for electricity. For the life of me, I don’t understand why it’s so opposed. Modern reactors are so safe and produce so little waste it’s a ready made solution.

    MercuryUprising ,

    It can’t be solved on an individual level, but that’s exactly where it has to start. Any movement begins with one person convincing another, who convinces another, and so on until it weaves its way through the zeitgeist. Nothing will ever be accomplished if we just say “nuh uh, it’s the companies and the government’s fault!” Once a critical mass is reached, the corporations and governments will have to bow to the people’s will or face a revolution. It’s the only way it works, and it’s the only way it has ever worked.

    Nuclear power is opposed because people are afraid of it. People are not logical and they’re definitely not smart, so when they think of a nuclear reactor, they imagine an atomic bomb blowing up over and over while it powers a generator, like a more powerful combustion engine.

    Coldgoron , in Scientists want you to mail dead butterflies for research if you live in these states

    Pay me and Id send you a lot of dead bugs.

    Mr_Blott ,

    God forbid you do something for the good of the planet. Go jump in your V12 10 litre truck and run over a dolphin or something

    cmbabul , in Cyprus allows human COVID-19 medications to be used against deadly virus mutation in cats

    I about shit my pants thinking this was some feline Covid that was gonna start the plague all over

    Pandantic , in Influencer Andrew Tate released from house arrest while he awaits human trafficking and rape trial
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    Why? Why release someone on house arrest who is a FUCKING RAPIST AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING GANG LEADER? How is that in the best interests of anyone but this POS?

    Coreidan ,

    What do you mean? Clearly it benefits the people he paid off to get out. That’s how it works for rich people.

    Unless of course you royally piss off the super rich and then you’re epsteined.

    alphacyberranger , in Hackers manage to unlock Tesla software-locked features worth up to $15,000
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    So they downloaded a car from a car?

    Simplesyrup ,
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    “Music starts playing”

    G_Wash1776 , in 'We are not imperial': Justice Kagan says Supreme Court still subject to checks and balances
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    Kagan actually respects the system of government, unlike every other justice. They want to act like they’re above everyone else, fuck that.

    aircooledJenkins ,

    unlike every other justice.

    Has Jackson proven to be an elitist hack?

    theredroom , in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet
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    The most surprising thing to me here, is that I’m looking at a scuba diver writing on what appears to be a piece of paper on a clipboard.

    DessertStorms ,
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    theredroom ,
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    Neato! It really is just a piece of (waterproof) paper on a clipboard – and you write on the clipboard, too – and with just a regular graphite pencil. I can’t say I’ve ever given much thought to how one might write underwater in that situation, but if I had, I would’ve guessed some sort of waterproof tablet. But it’s cool to see that sometimes the basics work better.

    XTornado ,

    Yeah man I was like “yeah yeah we know we are fucked…but what is that!? Please tell me 🙏”

    Wilshire , in Russian ship hit in Novorossiysk, Black Sea drone attack, Ukraine sources say
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    Russian warship, go fuck yourself

    treefrog , in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet

    Dr Samantha Burgess, from the Copernicus Climate Change Service, says March should be when the oceans globally are warmest, not August.

    “The fact that we’ve seen the record now makes me nervous about how much warmer the ocean may get between now and next March,” she says.

    By March El Nino will be in full swing. 2024 is going to be a very sad year for life on Earth.

    OldWoodFrame , in Infant RSV shot wins backing of CDC advisors, paving way for fall availability

    Anyone with a small child very clearly remembers how brutal last years RSV season was. I bet adoption is going to be high, get it before they have supply constraints.

    Fredselfish ,
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    It will continue to get worse due to the antivax movement. They will go full swing against this vaccine.

    It’s unfortunate that in the 21st century, we are moving backward in the world. We should be exploring the universe and cure all diseases. Yet, we have a large majority of Americans who want to take us backward.

    gabe ,

    And I think it’s going to be completely reasonable when parents of young children state those that refuse the vaccine aren’t going anywhere near their kids

    theangryseal ,

    My kids got it, I got it.

    It took me weeks to recover. I know they say it usually don’t hit adults too hard, but damn I was miserable.

    All the jokers who came in my store saying, “I gawts thuh awr ays veeee” knowing I have babies too. If I ever lost my damn mind and just started cracking skulls it would be because some sick jackass knowingly coughs at me.

    I’m thankful that parents will have this. My poor little babies just cried and moped for days.

    goforliftoff , (edited ) in Ocean heat record broken, with grim implications for the planet

    On the plus side, we don’t need to buy hot tubs anymore, so we’ve got that going for us, which is nice.

    Fredselfish ,
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    I’m glad someone can always look on the bright side.

    theredroom ,
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    Fredselfish ,
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    Thanks I watch to the end good message.

    MicroWave OP , in Infant RSV shot wins backing of CDC advisors, paving way for fall availability
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    RSV is the leading cause of hospitalization among infants in the U.S. The shot, branded under the name Beyfortus, would provide families with a simple option to protect their babies during the respiratory virus season.

    febra , in Gay Louisiana doctor says he’s leaving the state over its ‘discriminatory’ legislation

    Dr. Jake Kleinmahon, who is just one of three pediatric heart doctors with his specialty in Louisiana

    I’m SURE so many doctors with his expertise will literally FLOCK to Louisiana… not

    TheDeadGuy , in Montana otter attack leaves 3 women hurt, including one flown to the hospital
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    The statement from the wildlife management seems to imply the women were being idiots, but the news article sounds like they were attacked randomly

    Cat ,
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    When I saw "otter attack" the first thing that came to mind is they must have been harrasing them or too close to babies. Something stupid, whatever it was.

    foggy , in Montana otter attack leaves 3 women hurt, including one flown to the hospital

    l’otters are not afraid

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