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Nipplecreek , in Florida school district orders librarians to purge all books with LGBTQ characters

Damn. Republicans really are fascist. As if we didn’t know already but God damn.

protovack ,

“theocrats” would be more specific. fascist is a more generic term.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Theocracy can in theory be democratic and progressive, thus the term “Christofascism” to denote the xenophobic and oppressive nature.

teamevil , in Lawmakers say government shutdown appears inevitable

I hope air traffic controllers stay home and we remember it’s the dumbass Republican’s fault. Stop negotiating with terrorists it’s NEVER enough. Like a crazy ex

HobbitFoot ,

Yeah. You just need to make sure that the Representatives are stuck in Washington when it happens.

Astroturfed , in Black BYU student says he was harassed while recording social media posts

If this was anywhere but BYU I’d assume they were being a public nuisance. Really wish it wasn’t so normalized/accepted to accost people for videos or really anything in public. Sales, signatures w/e.

blanketswithsmallpox , in Several injured after UAW strikers hit by vehicle
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At least it's your average frustrated person trying to get though and not a terrorist?

SkybreakerEngineer ,

If you think that running people over is a valid response to a minor inconvenience, you might be a terrorist.

blanketswithsmallpox , (edited )
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No, they're not. Quit watering down what terrorism means.

Terrorism is someone who specifically is trying to kill, maim, destroy, or significantly hurt people due to very narrow ideologies which are usually VERY political now.

Running people over because you can't get to work isn't one of them. That is attempted manslaughter if you hurt them bad enough, not a fucking terrorist.

Either you guys know way more about the incident than I do since you're close to the police and already know it's a Trumper who hates strikes and thought they were all gay black democrats, who potentially showed up specifically to hurt these people, or it was some asshole trying to get to work and got so manic he decided it's better to maim or kill people than to get to work.

THEY, ARE NOT, THE SAME.

FlyingSquid ,
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How do you know why they were run over when the person who did it hasn’t been caught?

blanketswithsmallpox , (edited )
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Exactly. Thank you.

I am fully willing to change my thought on the matter at the drop of a hat with new information. But the way the article reads is VERY different from every terrorist car attack we've seen in the USA in previous years.

The strikers were blocking an exit to the processing center on West Bristol Road, Bade said, when the incident took place.

The driver, who drove off after the incident, has not been located, Bade said.

UAW Region 1-D President Steve Dawes told MLive-The Flint Journal that the vehicle involved in the incident was dark in color, possibly an HHR or PT Cruiser.

He added that two of the five people hit were taken to a local hospital.

“It was uncalled for,” Dawes said. “These people are out here, you know these are my membership, and they’re out here doing a peaceful, legal demonstration.

“This is very serious and we’re going to be pushing this issue.”

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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and already know it's a Trumper who hates strikes and thought they were all gay black democrats

I mean, this is entirely plausible.

blanketswithsmallpox , (edited )
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Yep, and yet the article says nothing close to it, and is described the same way every frustrated person dealing with blocked roads does when they panic and flee and eventually get hit with significant battery or accidental manslaughter charges. Unless their car started to get beat on and they tried breaking in, in which case, it ends up being self defense. Isn't that how the charges against the dude who ran down a bunch of motorcyclicsts got free? He had his whole family with him too though iirc. I think it was this? but I swear it was denser and more in a city.

be_excellent_to_each_other ,
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I had no point other than the actual words I wrote, FYI.

Facelesscog ,

Where are you getting your definition? I would like to be able to compare them.

grue ,

Crossing a picket line is an inherently political act. Terrorism is the use of violence for political ends. Connect the fucking dots.

bobman ,

Terrorism doesn’t have to be political.

Your goal just needs to be to instill fear in a population.

grue ,

Even if that’s true, it only expands the definition, which doesn’t refute my point.

SmoothIsFast ,

The comment you responded to was backing you up, correct.

bobman ,

Lol, what? Terrorism has a very broad definition and for good reason.

The main way to identify terrorism is if the terrorist’s goal is to instill fear into the populace. That’s why it’s called, terrorism after all. It’s an asymmetrical warfare tactic that people use when fighting directly isn’t viable.

Sad seeing people live in their fantasy worlds and then get their panties in a bunch when met with reality.

blazeknave ,

Who are they? Op meant you. They’re referencing your validation of terrorizing striking workers from exercising their constitutional rights. You’re validating it by minimizing its importance.

Wodge ,
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I get frustrated by average things, like the kids not closing cupboard doors or leaving their stuff everywhere. I have yet to run over anyone due to these average frustrations.

The person at the UAW picket was not dealing with average frustrations, they were a terrorist.

blanketswithsmallpox , (edited )
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Cryophilia ,

Terrorist? Really? That word has just lost all meaning huh

Wodge ,
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I dunno, the OED definition is: “a person who uses unlawful violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.” The Unlawful violence was the act of running people over, they’re car factory workers, so non military, ergo civilians, and they did it to against people expressing their opinion, which could be argued to be political as it regards the politics of CEOs compensation and the growing inequality of the world.

So yeah, terrorist.

reverendsteveii ,

He’s talking about the secret meaning where conservative politics aren’t politics so conservative terrorists can’t be terrorists.

Cryophilia ,

Touch grass

reverendsteveii ,

Can’t touch grass, too busy breaking down doors and bear spraying cops at my peaceful protest over election integrity concerns. Maybe next week after I’m done trying to kidnap the governor of Michigan, but it might conflict with Yet Another Lone Wolf Mass Shooting so I can’t commit to anything.

After all, like conservatives loudly and proudly said at CPAC, “We are all domestic terrorists.”

XbSuper ,

Jesus Christ. I often wonder why I’m still on Lemmy when I hear nonsense like this.

Hoomod ,

It’s not an airport, you don’t need to announce your departure

Cryophilia ,

They’re just kids. Kids are stupid sometimes.

Cryophilia ,

Lol don’t hurt yourself with that stretch

CaptainAniki ,

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  • Cryophilia ,

    Which is not even close to “one driver was incredibly frustrated at the people blocking him from going home”

    Pyr_Pressure , in Florida school district orders librarians to purge all books with LGBTQ characters

    It’s alright people, we can pretend that portion of the population just simply doesn’t exist and all will go back as it was in 1950.

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Well jeez, at least it only sucked for gay people in 1950!

    Moobythegoldensock , in ‘Unprecedented’ theft contributed to $112 billion in retail losses last year

    Summary: There is a normal percentage of theft compared to previous years, but because of inflation the estimated dollar amounts are “unprecedented.” Please don’t ask about the unprecedented profits.

    Astroturfed ,

    Clickbait headline articles need to be shocking sounding. Bonus points if they push the narrative that companies are good and us horrible peasant thieves stealing from them are bad.

    Fpsfrank85 , in US poor face economic hit as shutdown, childcare cliff, student loans converge
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    Stop being poor for fuck sake. We got proxy wars and corporations to feed.

    MonosyllabicAmerican , in FBI arrests Proud Boys member who disappeared days before sentencing over role in Jan. 6

    The Master Race everybody.

    blazera , in US poor face economic hit as shutdown, childcare cliff, student loans converge
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    Dont forget the millions of Americans not allowed to get any help with health insurance, because theyre too poor to qualify for it.

    TrismegistusMx , in Sen. Dianne Feinstein, an 'icon for women in politics,' dies at 90, source confirms
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    Finally retired, bitch.

    JustZ ,
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    What a disgusting comment.

    dragonflyteaparty ,

    Agreed, there’s so need to make such comments.

    Oderus ,

    Disgusting comment for a disgusting woman. Works for me.

    JustZ ,
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    Of course it does. Disgusting person.

    BleepBlip , in Sen. Dianne Feinstein, an 'icon for women in politics,' dies at 90, source confirms

    Forced Retirement

    luckyhunter ,

    Let’s not jump to conclusions. They could totally “Weekend at Bernie’s” this for a while.

    Cylusthevirus , in ‘Thwarted diabolical plot': Man arrested minutes before mass shooting at Northern Virginia church, police say
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    Another mass shooting narrowly averted and the only comments here are how stupid religious people are because they happened to thank their God.

    Maybe take a moment to reflect on if this level of tribalism and callousness represents the sort of person you want to be.

    Piecemakers3Dprints ,
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    What’s a tankie for cultists called?

    DragonTypeWyvern ,

    Fundamentalist

    jaybone ,

    A thankie?

    zaph ,

    Nah religion is harmful i’ma shame them

    Cylusthevirus ,
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    wahming ,

    Nobody’s talking about mental health, just their effect on society

    zaph ,

    How many wars have been fought because of someone’s god? How many people have been murdered because they worshiped the same god in a different way? How many children have been abused because the adults thought they were following their god’s will? Religion is harmful.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    You guys really harp on that one gold nugget found in a pile of shit. Wow you get slightly lower alcoholism rates if you believe in skydaddy. Big freaken deal. It doesn’t excuse or makeup for anything.

    ki77erb ,

    Thank you. I’ll get hammered with downvotes but not everyone who believes in God is a moron, or a Republican, or a Trump supporter, or anti-science, or homophobic, or judgmental or any other shit like that. Some of us are pretty normal.

    hoch ,

    You must be a pretty terrible Christian, because the Bible is overwhelmingly anti-science and God’s stance on homosexuality couldn’t be any clearer. I don’t think you’re allowed to pick and choose what parts of the Bible to follow 🤔

    ki77erb ,

    Any person’s opinion of how “good” or “bad” of a Christian I am is meaningless to me. I think and do what I feel is morally right by me.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    You arent wrong. Neuroscience has proven that your God believes the same things you believe. Isn’t that amazing? The being that like 14,000,000,000 years ago made the entire universe and has been managing every moment with at least a precision of .000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000044 seconds while managing 2-8 x 1,000,000,000,000 galaxies each containing 1-4 x 100,000,000,000 stars happens to agree with you about masturbation.

    Amazing.

    Cylusthevirus ,
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    Christians are a diverse bunch. I've seen people claiming the label who do and do not believe the Bible is inerrant or sometimes even inspired. I've seen people who claim the label practice rituals that look very similar to what some Wiccans do.

    The reality though is that every Christian picks and chooses. People should be held responsible for how they behave, not the labels they claim or the trauma you've incurred by people claiming that label.

    I understand why so many take issue with right wing American evangelicals who can't even manage to align with Jesus himself, but the bigotry I've seen today is just depressing.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Who cares that the rituals are a bit different? It is still the religion with the highest kill count and the source of worldwide problems. Just within my lifetime Christianity led a crusade into Iraq that killed a million people and sent crises all over the region.

    idiomaddict ,

    You’re allowed to believe whatever you like. I’ve been an atheist since I realized the other kids believed in Noah, but let people keep whatever tiny thing gives them comfort, especially if they do it while expanding the church to accept anyone.

    jcit878 ,

    no that pretty much sums up every openly religious person I know

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I never once ever called a person a moron for believing in skydaddy. I know it simply isn’t true because I have worked with plenty of wicked smart skydaddy followers. Also I was one and didn’t get any smarter when I left religion.

    The rest of the stuff yeah sure you are all basically the same. Don’t really care that some of you pretend to be otherwise on the internet. I have seen how you vote and that is all the data I need. Sorry your Pope is having legal issues now.

    ClumZy ,

    Don’t cut yourself with that edge.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    2005 wants their one-liner back.

    ki77erb ,

    Weird. I’m a moderate liberal who voted for Biden but by all means continue to believe in your stereotypes. I’m also not Catholic and could give two shits about the Pope.

    Honytawk ,

    I’ll stop saying that when theists stop thinking atheists eat babies or are in league with some sort of archfiend that only exists in their own religion.

    Cylusthevirus ,
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    Excuse me, I know many Atheists who have a pact with a Great Old One. Some of them enjoy the flavor and better spell selection. /s

    sailingbythelee ,

    You’re right. Believing in the literal existence of any god or supernatural entity obviously doesn’t imply that the believer is a moron in a general intellectual sense. There are plenty of highly skilled and academically-inclined religious people, including scientists. However, such beliefs do reflect an inability or stubborn unwillingness to align with a scientific worldview, which in turn suggests some form of psychological weakness. I mean, honestly, what would you think of someone who believes in the literal existence of fairies, ghosts, and invisible dragons and organized their world view around those beliefs? You may not actively dislike or discriminate against such people, but you would wonder at their psychological constitution and susceptibility to delusion. And surely you would be worried if they became a majority and started voting for politicians whose goal is to align your society with their invisible magic dragon worship. It’s just so…utterly ridiculous. That’s why atheists use the shorthand moniker “moron” when referring to religious people. We don’t mean that religious people are literally intellectually incapable, just that they hold an inexplicably stupid and inconsistent worldview. The negativity component doesn’t apply to the fairy-believers and dragon-worshippers because they are an unthreatening fringe. Christians and Muslims, however, are large, dangerous, and politically influential groups who have shown a tendency towards forcing their views on others. And a majority of Christians, especially the most vocal ones, do vote for Trump. I don’t hate all individual Christians or Muslims, who can be perfectly nice people, but I really do hate public and especially political religious expression.

    ki77erb ,

    I can definitely agree with you that many religious people attempt to force their beliefs on others. Many also use faith for monetary gain or power. It’s a serious problem.

    prayer ,

    It’s like a time machine back to 2014 with all these comments and overused insults.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    If you go back even further you could see the Twin Towers before the faithful crashed planes into them.

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5b5f461f-8733-412a-94c4-e57978ae4245.jpeg

    TimewornTraveler ,

    I thought 9-11 was about America supporting Israel

    sailingbythelee ,

    2014? Oh, my sweet summer child.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    I have and it does. Now restore Roe v Wade

    ClumZy ,

    Don’t assume the poster’s position on that issue… I believe in God and I believe in the right to abortion too, everything is not black or white.

    afraid_of_zombies ,

    Sure.

    Cylusthevirus ,
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    I fully support a woman's right to choose without conditions because I believe it's wrong to require that someone keep someone else alive with their own body. It removes that person's agency and reduces them to less than a person. We can't require that people donate organs after they die, so we obviously can't require that they host another person against their will.

    A person should have more rights and protections than a corpse. Obviously.

    TimewornTraveler ,

    Lemmy stinks like shit lately. I never subbed to r/atheism for this reason. Then we got Hexbear pretending that pictures of pigs pooping on their balls is activism. This is like every other reddit alternative: after a few months, only the most unsavory people stick around. It’s miserable here.

    Cylusthevirus ,
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    I mean ... what did they think the result of those low effort posts would be, exactly? I've been on the Internet long enough to see far, FAR worse than that. All it does is clutter up a thread.

    OTOH, threads like these are great for my blocklist. Makes it easy to screen out histrionic bigots that can't differentiate between an Episcopalian or United Methodist with a gay priest who's worst crime against humanity involves providing housing for folks in their community and some batshit nuts Evangelical White Nationalist.

    harpuajim , in Sen. Dianne Feinstein, an 'icon for women in politics,' dies at 90, source confirms

    Sad for her family but it was in the best interest of the Country.

    givesomefucks ,

    Bruh, her family was the ones who should have explained why she should retire over a decade ago…

    I don’t feel sorry for them at all, they’re probably the only ones who could have talked sense into her

    dan1101 , in Shooting at Florida auto shop wounds at least 2 people, including suspect, police say

    He said he only wanted an oil change.

    agitatedpotato , (edited ) in In Los Angeles' Men’s Central Jail, fires are common, smoke alarms are not: Smells 'like a campfire'

    Im familiar with a CO in one of the more ‘humane’ prisons in the country. Recently transfered inmates who are trying to power pose to their new cell block often get told they can calm down there by the veteran inmates. The prison rewards good behavior enough that it’s created a shift in inmate culture, AND STILL, there is tons of things that more than most people would consider much less than humane. This is another one of those deeply systematic problems that I guarantee you’ll find shades of in your own community.

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