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Florida school district orders librarians to purge all books with LGBTQ characters

Librarians in public schools in Charlotte County, Florida, were instructed by the school district superintendent to remove all books with LGBTQ characters or themes from school and classroom libraries. The guidance by Charlotte County Superintendent Mark Vianello and the school board's attorney, Michael McKinley, was obtained by the Florida Freedom to Read Project (FFTRP) through a public records request and shared with Popular Information. FFTRP requested "electronic records of district and school decisions regarding classroom and library materials." In response, FFTRP received a document memorializing a July 24 conversation between Vianello and district librarians, known in Florida as media specialists.

Pyr_Pressure ,

It’s alright people, we can pretend that portion of the population just simply doesn’t exist and all will go back as it was in 1950.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Well jeez, at least it only sucked for gay people in 1950!

formergijoe ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/f138c8a8-898d-4af4-a436-e198c7d896b4.png

coffeeaddict ,

It’s a school board which afaik had nothing to do with DeSantis. Well, maybe DeSantis pushed passed the kind of less that authorized school boards play around like this.

But this is more of a direct result of residents of the county voting this kind of people for school board (or… only a specific group attending the ballot and others sleeping) and the people elected by the citizens in that county doing banning things like that.

I think US could be a much better place if simply everyone went to ballot

Nipplecreek ,

Damn. Republicans really are fascist. As if we didn’t know already but God damn.

protovack ,

“theocrats” would be more specific. fascist is a more generic term.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Theocracy can in theory be democratic and progressive, thus the term “Christofascism” to denote the xenophobic and oppressive nature.

protovack , (edited )

i’m a christian and know the bible well. These types of actions do not match how Jesus instructed us to act. When asked by frustrated tax payers whether they should continue paying the unfair taxes, jesus looked at the coin, asked “who’s face is on the coin?” It was Caesar. And he said, “Then give to Caesar what is Caesars, and give to God what is God’s.”

You see, they thought he was going to affirm their desire to revolt and stop paying their taxes, because in their view, jesus was a rebel and of course he would support people rising up to collectively cut off the flow of tax money to the worst government the world had ever seen? No. Jesus said, no don’t do that. Just give it to them. Play the long game. Give up this battle, but win the war.

Similarly, when I as a christian am asked by another christian “shouldn’t we ban these books? they have sinful activity”…I say, no. let the books stay where they are. it’s a library. if what you believe is true, then mere pieces of paper with drawings and text in them should change nothing. Let God sort it out later. You just live your life.

Jesus was much more interested in the inner life of each person, and he made a specific point of telling people to mind their own business and get their own house in order before worrying about everyone else. He also was very mindful of sin, telling us to “run” from it, almost like harmful radiation. Don’t try to change it, don’t try to interact with it, don’t even try to fight it. Just run away, get away, whatever you have to do.

So perhaps Jesus teaching for parents worried about sinful activities in books, would be to take their kid out of school, and create their own school that doesn’t teach that. Which is why I support school vouchers. We as christians should at least be consistent, and our actions should match those of Jesus. These people out there pushing for more intervention, more laws, more authoritarian control towards a theocracy, are IMO not very christ-like. Christians already created the ultimate theocracy in the Catholic church and we all saw how that turned out. We should have learned our lessons from history, but instead people just repeat the same mistakes over and over. And that’s all people, not just christians.

Strawberry ,

children have the right to a proper education and we as society have a responsibility to provide it. Religious private schooling is a failure in that regard and should not be permitted, much less funded at the expense of public schools and the children who attend them. Voucher programs rob from the budget of already underfunded (supposedly) secular public schools

protovack ,

partially disagree, but i respect your opinion, and the way you presented it.

Dark_Arc ,
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I don’t share your faith (or even really have one that’s got a name), but I respect your tone and the thought you’ve put into this.

I share the other commenter’s dislike of charter schools.

if what you believe is true, then mere pieces of paper with drawings and text in them should change nothing. Let God sort it out later. You just live your life.

This is largely what I believe. As long as the person isn’t hurting someone else, leave it to the higher power to sort it out. Asserting control over another’s life is actively in the way of their own life’s journey.

I don’t believe a book that benevolently presents a character that’s LGBTQ is going to change anyone’s gender identity or sexuality.

I was called “Wanda” in high school by some close friends because I didn’t act like the typical teenaged boy (read: I wasn’t being a jackass). I’m still a straight guy despite having that (friendly) nickname for a few years that was a totally different gender.

I trust the kids here to do the right thing for themselves. We don’t as adults need to limit their world view, especially teenagers; that just seems like a recipe for resentment. i.e. just leave the books alone, it’s not a problem that needs solving.

febra ,

Fascism. In 1935 the nazis were burning books. Nowadays they banish them from the public. Same ideology. Fascism always stays the same

winterayars ,

The Nazis started with books about “sexual deviance”, specifically they started with the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft. That’s where that one famous picture of them comes from.

They started with gay and trans people, same as here.

Pavidus ,

“They don’t gotta burn the books they just remove 'em.”

RubberStuntBaby ,

Republicans are afraid that LGBTQ characters will humanize LGBTQ people and children might learn to empathize with them, which would reduce bigotry against them.

Pratai ,

Imagine being that afraid of who other people love. The world has never seen such cowardice.

winterayars ,

They’re just afraid of love in general. All fascists are. LGBT people just get it worse and (since they’re minorities and thus easy to target) first.

Elric ,

Wow purging lgbtq books in Florida while Ontario is purging any book written before 2008… can we all please stop purging books it never ends well!

burntbutterbiscuits ,

Jesus told me to love my brother 👀

nybble41 ,

Allegories aside, the Bible definitely has a few LGBTQ characters, even if they’re not portrayed in a very positive light. I suppose that means they’ll be banning the Bible from school libraries? Not to mention a fair amount of historical literature… including anything featuring Leonardo da Vinci, Florence Nightingale, King James (yes, that King James), William Shakespeare, King Richard I, or Julius Caesar.

It will be interesting to see whether this makes the history classes easier, for lack of material to cover, or harder, for lack of references.

VintageTech ,

Isn’t Joseph’s pronoun in Hebrew she/her? Hence the perfume cart and the shocking response from pharoahs wife once “he” was naked?

wheeldawg ,

And my step brother 👀

GiddyGap ,

Florida has really turned into crap over the past few years. Politically, it wasn’t great to begin with, but it has certainly gone south for a while now.

potpotato ,

Uh, “LOL 1A?”

Bernie_Sandals ,
@Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world avatar

“But the gays are yucky and the founding fathers obviously meant no Constitution for yucky people” /s

xc2215x ,

This is about homophobia not being appropriate or not.

alekwithak , (edited )

Please support Foundation 451 and consider donating. It is a Florida teacher-led organization that has already provided thousands of banned books to Florida students and is opening up banned book libraries all over the state.

bobman ,

Meh. Teachers should just lead themselves to different states and let the effects take care of florida.

If they want to be a bunch of uneducated slaves, go right ahead.

alekwithak ,

Do you have any idea what teachers in Florida make? That aside, pushing all the good teachers out of the state is exactly what DeSantis wants. They’ve drastically lowered the qualifications necessary to be a teacher. You seem to understand why. Why do you think they’ll stop with Florida.

bobman ,

Why do you think they’ll stop with Florida.

Because other places will have learned from florida’s mistakes, and they’ll be better educated.

alekwithak ,

That’s very optimistic, but nooses never loosen. You have to cut them off entirely.

morphballganon ,

So what happens to the books that get removed?

Trash? Donated to public libraries?

NXTR ,
@NXTR@artemis.camp avatar

Something something Celsius 232.8

PM_Your_Nudes_Please ,

Wait, was the book title actually localized to Celsius when it was exported? In America the original book is titled Fahrenheit 451, which honestly rolls off the tongue fairly well.

Ulv ,

No too my knowledge the titwl was never localised in any way besides too accomadate other languages ways of writing fahrenheit

morphballganon ,

I think they said it the way they did to make it clear they were talking about the library books burning, rather than referring to the book with that title

SeaJ ,

The fact that they are not taking out books with heterosexual characters as well shows this is only about bigotry.

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