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loo OP , in [SOLVED] [Gnome 46.2] Is there a way to turn off the "Show Apps" hover effect?
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Thanks a lot @KryptonNerd & @tychosmoose! Couldn’t find that option in Gnome Tweaks, but in the Gnome multitasking settings, there’s an option to disable hot corners. I don’t know why these settings don’t show up, when you search for ‘hot corners’ in settings, though.

TheGrandNagus , (edited )

in the Gnome multitasking settings, there’s an option to disable hot corners. I don’t know why these settings don’t show up, when you search for ‘hot corners’ in settings, though.

Huh, you’re right. I type “hot” and it turns up, but as soon as I type “hot c” it disappears. I also tried “hotcorner” and still nothing. How strange.

If I remember to I’ll do a bug report tonight 🤓

E: known issue, and it’s not limited to just this search by the looks of it

GolfNovemberUniform , in Running a business using linux
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Hmm I didn’t know the UK was THIS bad.

fellowmortal OP ,

I don’t know if the UK is worse than anywhere else (?)

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

Well it surely is much much worse than my country by the looks of it.

fellowmortal OP ,

Which is?

cygnus ,
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I’m in Canada and use Linux full-time without any such problems whatsoever. On rare occasions I use Edge instead of Firefox, and that’s it.

krash ,

In Sweden most government provided services are accessible through a web browser, but you need “BankID” which requires Android. Which is kind of Linux, though not fully FOSS.

balder1993 ,

But I’m sure the fact Android is FOSS had nothing to do with it, it’s just a random coincidence. It would simply be the most popular OS.

digdilem ,

Bad? It’s a couple of decisions made by organisations or politicians who are ignorant of free software alternatives and open standards.

Certainly better than the US’s tax system, where you have to pay to file your taxes or at the least, have to spend a lot of your time working out complex tax submissions each year.

In the UK, your income tax is automatically paid by your employer when you earn it. Unless you’re self employed - or doing your own business accounts like OP, you don’t have to submit any tax information, ever.

GolfNovemberUniform , (edited )
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Taxes are not the only things that matter, mister/miss. In the US you at least aren’t legally forced to use Windows and I’m not even talking about the fact that the US supports genocide. But who am I talking to? Americans are fully dead inside and won’t understand. There’s no way to revive them.

digdilem ,

I’m not in the US - and who was talking about genocide? We’re talking about tax and it’s software here.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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The original topic wasn’t about tax either.

acockworkorange ,

All these third world countries can’t compete with the powerhouse that is Brazil and its free, multiplataform tax system since the nineties.

Seriously though, it’s not a technological issue, it’s a political one.

fellowmortal OP , in Running a business using linux

Also, please feel free to answer if you aren’t based in the UK, I assume this isn’t a UK only problem, but I’m based here.

0x0 ,

I’ve had zero trouble with online banking. The only hiccups i may find is that some banking (android) apps may refuse to work unless you installed them via Play Store.

GolfNovemberUniform , in Running a business using linux
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I think what you can do is just get a separate computer running Windows for all your business stuff and business stuff only. I’d also recommend ALWAYS using a VPN on it if legally possible.

padjakkels ,
@padjakkels@lemmy.world avatar

That is exactly what he doesn’t want to do and why he is using Linux.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
@GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml avatar

The point of getting a separate device is similar to using a VPN - to use proprietary and invasive software without getting the personal data stored on the main devices sent to third parties. The business device still can send some data (like WiFi connection info, approximate location and microphone recordings) but the personal data should be safe. It may not be a viable option for very high threat models though since Windows can have backdoors that the government might use to inject malware into all the devices connected to the same network.

lily33 ,

That only works if the main reason someone uses Linux is personal privacy.

GolfNovemberUniform ,
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Aren’t we talking about privacy and freedom as the main concerns here?

lily33 ,

They are major concerns, but they aren’t the only reasons people would use Linux, and also not everyone who uses Linux does it for these reasons. For example, while I care about them, my most important reason for using it is utility features such as my tiling WM.

fellowmortal OP , (edited )

I’m not worried about privacy, it’s a business not a person. If the government want to look through my business’ data, they just need to arrange an audit. I like good security, but am a small target.

It’s about free as in freedom.

My worry is that if linux is allowed to become just a hackintosh of steamdeck, rather than an actual operating system. It will go the way of hackintosh.

[edit: apostrophe, edit2: added last paragraph]

oldfart ,

I went a step further and am paying an accountant to handle this mess, using my favourite libre email client to contact her. I know, it’s a privileged position.

0x0 ,

Well, depending on the size of the business, that may be a necessity or even a requirement.

UraniumBlazer , in Running a business using linux

Have u tried changing user agent? Get an add-on on Firefox with a similar name and change to chrome. The website will now think that u’r using Chrome. U could even change ur displayed OS if it has that big of a problem with Linux.

Ghoelian ,

Firefox also has a built-in list of user agent overrides for websites that don’t work on Firefox for no reason.

You can create an issue here, and maybe they’ll fix it at some point. Not sure what the normal turnaround is for fixes like this though, could take a while.

You can see the list in about:compat btw

fellowmortal OP , (edited )

Thanks - I had not thought of this. I’ll give it a go… [edit: no dice :(] It works in chromium, so there is a solution… its just tiring to remember which browser to use for which site.

Cyber ,

If you do find their site works on a other browser (and I mean, the browser, not due to an addon, etc.) then complain to the company / bank / etc.

If they take your complaint seriously then I’d persevere with them… if they don’t then they’re not customer focused and your business (money) goes elsewhere.

lord_ryvan ,

if they don’t then they’re not customer focused and your business (money) goes elsewhere.

Yeah, let’s NOT pay taxes! /s

Unless you’re talking about the bank, in that case they’re literally here asking for a good alternative bank.

fmstrat ,

I found for sites that I have to run in Chromium I use Tools -=> Create Shortcut, then Run in Windowed Mode. This puts a shortcut in your app list for the site, and runs it without menus like a web app. It helps me since my brain treats it like the company’s application vs site.

xavier666 ,

I gave up and used a Windows VM for such shenanigans. It’s hard when even the government doesn’t want to listen. This is a good project which bridges the gap -> github.com/Fmstrat/winapps.

s08nlql9 ,

First time hearing this. Is WinApps stable? Does it consume too much resources?

delirious_owl , in Running a business using linux
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

The best bank is monero

BaalInvoker ,

Crypto is scam.

borari , (edited )

Yes, treating crypto as a way to invest is a scam. The vast majority of crypto and crypto-adjacent “projects” are scams.

We live in a world where payment providers have the power to force Etsy to delist vendors that sell sex toys to customers of a legal age, payment apps like Venmo or PayPal will permaban your account for selling NSFW art or products, and physical cash is being largely abandoned for cards and digital wallets. Surely you can see the benefits of a completely anonymous payment method?

To be clear, I vastly prefer cash, but there’s an obvious issue with trying to anonymously use cash to pay for something on the internet or to send money to someone who isn’t within easy driving distance.

li10 ,

Ah yes, the currency that’s pretty much only accepted for buying drugs or anything illegal.

bier ,

You can’t prove or disprove this statement and that’s the whole point of monero.

li10 ,

The whole point of what I’m saying is that nowhere accepts it and it’s therefore functionality useless for running a business, the point of this post/discussion.

I can easily prove that most retailers don’t accept Monero and it’s therefore basically useless.

It’s a pain in the arse to even buy in the UK, I know because I use it to buy drugs.

bier ,

I mean yes it’s not the same as paying with PayPal or any other “normal” payment processer but acceptance got a lot better over the last few years you can order basically all the online shit through proxy stores or exchange them through gift cards or by games directly with it.

0x0 ,

nowhere accepts it

most retailers don’t accept

Make up your mind. Plus, you’re wrong.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Also monerica. Include gift cards and almost all major retailers in the US and EU accept monero

xilliah ,

Drugs are an affordable replacement for food and shelter.

li10 ,

Wrong. Drugs are too expensive.

xilliah ,

That’s because you haven’t been using monero :p

0x0 ,

Actually, the last time cryptocurrencies were mentioned in a thread i was reading here on lemmy someone pointed out that, due to government regulation changes, using cryptocurrencies on the dark web was the only way some people could get the drugs they needed.

delirious_owl ,
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Lol wut? I buy my groceries, hotel, plane tickets, and electronics with monero.

Its great for privacy.

fira959 , in Drew DeVault on the biggest threats to FOSS and some proposed solutions

Before Github, there was no collection of open source repositories that are easily searchable, making it easy to find and promote open source software. I am not aware of any alternative that ever did or does a better job at making open source contributions that easy. Even when I try to use codeberg as an alternative, my Github repos will always get more contributions. No idea how we could even begin to change that.

CyberSyndicalist , in Running a business using linux
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Can’t speak to the specific sites that you use but I’ve personally found firefox user agent spoofing results in almost every site that didn’t work on firefox suddenly magically working if they think you are on chrome.

astronaut_sloth ,
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I’ve found this to be the case a lot, too. I also spoof my OS because a lot of government sites will refuse to work unless it says Windows. It’s stupid, but here we are.

fellowmortal OP ,

yes it is. I have tried messing with user agent now. Chromium works on linux, not firefox. :(

possiblylinux127 ,

Librewolf does this out of the box

NiPfi , in Slowroll Set for a Quarter of Updates

I wonder if I can make my existing Thumbleweed installation a Slowroll one instead, without borking up everything

Ephera ,

I recently did so, on my PC and my dad’s.

The instructions are here: en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Slowroll

Someone recently updated that page and it’s a bit confusing now. I’m guessing, in the “Use” section, it’s missing a blurb that for side-grading you should then do the steps with the root session and so forth.
These are the instructions that I followed: en.opensuse.org/index.php?title=openSUSE:Slowroll…

NiPfi ,

I did as instructed and will find out if it was a mistake or not but so far it seems okay. But I guess switching bak is just as easy as swapping repos

bjoern_tantau ,
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Either I did something and forgot (which is possible) or my Tumbleweed actually added Slowroll sources itself. I guess I’d just have to remove the Tumbleweed sources and let time handle it.

DieserTypMatthias , in Can I install linux on this?
@DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml avatar

Well of course you can.

Aggravationstation , in Running a business using linux

I’m also based in the UK. I don’t run a business but have occasionally encountered problems trying to use Librewolf on the web, especially with Noscript on.

I tried to use Qubes to separate my activities into VMs but I found it difficult. So I did my own, less extreme, approach using KVM.

I created a virtual machine which only has Chrome on it. This is what I use for accessing my bank, Paypal and doing online shopping.

I have a second machine I use for Whatsapp and email and finally a third with Librewolf for general web browsing.

Each uses the same VPN service but different servers.

I only use Freetube and Retroarch on my main machine.

This is on a very beefy Thinkpad I essentially use as a desktop in my office. I use a smaller machine downstairs with VNC on it as a remote when I’m sat on my sofa.

fellowmortal OP ,

This sounds smart

atzanteol ,

This sounds ridiculous. So much work and overhead just to usea web browser?

Cyber ,

It’s not just browsing discussed there. Re-read that again with cybersecurity in mind… online banking shouldn’t be done whilst you’re sharing a browser with tiktok (as an example)

Yep, there’s private / incognito modes, but they just drop all the local session data, they’re not any more secure.

cygnus ,
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This is what Firefox containers are for. Put the predatory sites in a container so they can’t see out of it.

atzanteol ,

They can’t “see out” of their own tab either. Websites can only access data in the browser that they create.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

Sure they can, with cookies or tracking pixels for example.

atzanteol ,

What? No. Just… No. My god - the misunderstanding around cookies is ridiculous. I blame the EU - they put a ‘warning label’ on them an now eveyone thinks they’re just evil.

Firstly - Cookies are only allowed to be read/written by the site you requested from. If they could read all cookies that would be a MASSIVE security problem and the internet would be fundamentally unusable for business.

Secondly - This has nothing to do with tabs. Nothing. … Nothing.

Thirdly - There are “third party” cookies which happen when a site coordinates with a third party for things like advertising and allows them to track hits when their ads are displayed. This requires both sites to cooperate. But also see “firstly” as it won’t allow that third party access to, say, your authentication information.

Lastly - This still has nothing to do with tabs.

cygnus ,
@cygnus@lemmy.ca avatar

This requires both sites to cooperate. But also see “firstly” as it won’t allow that third party access to, say, your authentication information.

Nobody here said it would let them see your authentication details, so I’m not sure why you’re so vigorously fighting that straw man. Third-party cookies absolutely let them know which other sites you’ve visited. That’s their main purpose.

atzanteol , (edited )

Nobody here said it would let them see your authentication details, so I’m not sure why you’re so vigorously fighting that straw man.

Your session ID is stored in a cookie. That is what a website uses to know that you’re logged in. With a XSS attack one can steal your session and use the site as though they were you. So yes - it is “authentication details”.

Nobody here mentioned it because nobody here seems to know what they’re talking about…

Third-party cookies absolutely let them know which other sites you’ve visited. That’s their main purpose.

And they are not stopped by using a separate VM with a web browser. So…

atzanteol ,

online banking shouldn’t be done whilst you’re sharing a browser with tiktok (as an example)

Why? Be specific because unless something has gone horribly wrong sites can’t access data from other sites or tabs unless they’re cooperating. In which case they do so with session data.

And you could simply have a separate Firefox profile rather than spinning up an entire virtual machine.

brbposting ,

Neat, Mozilla’s VPN supports setting servers on a per-container basis.

Though gotta watch for DNS leaks apparently.

xavier666 ,

And you could simply have a separate Firefox profile rather than spinning up an entire virtual machine.

This is what I do. Even though there is nothing wrong with the Qubes approach, I think it’s overkill unless you are hiding from nation-state attackers.

0x0 ,

XSS springs to mind.

And spinning up a VM (or container) is not that hard nowadays.

atzanteol ,

This does absolutely nothing to defend against XSS.

This is the problem with paranoia-based security. You create needless overhead thinking you’re “more secure,” but you’re not. Not in any way that really matters, at least.

0x0 ,

So if i spin up a container to run just that browser for just that site i do nothing against XSS? Interesting.

atzanteol ,

I can’t tell if you’re being facetious or not…

XSS is an attack within a site. For example - if I were to embed JavaScript in this post, and your lemmy website didn’t properly sanitize it, then it would be executed by your browser. This would let me run code on lemmy with your credentials. I could then rewrite posts, delete your account, maybe send your data to another site where I could capture your session or credentials.

It has nothing to do with any other tabs and it would be limited to lemmy and the page that executed the script. I couldn’t have that script read data from your bank on another tab, for example.

Aggravationstation ,

It’s not that much work. I created a VM which is running the same distro as the host. I removed all of the apps except for the terminal. Then I cloned it for each VM I need.

The Whatsapp/ email client VM and the Librewolf VM start with my OS so it’s like having them in separate windows. The others I only start if needs be.

atzanteol ,

It’s a lot of effort for the benefit you get, which is practically nothing. Especially considering there are even easier ways to get the same result

Aggravationstation ,

Such as?

atzanteol ,

Just use tabs they can’t access each other’s data. Or use a tab session manager. Or separate Firefox profiles.

Aggravationstation ,

I don’t trust Chrome, Zoom or Teams, but sometimes have to use them. I will keep them in a separate VM but will look into Firefox profiles.

atzanteol ,

So it’s just paranoia then… Which makes sense as it’s way over the top.

Heck, even just creating separate system accounts and doing ‘sudo -u social firefox’ would be easier than spinning and maintaining VMs…

Aggravationstation ,

So it’s just paranoia then…

Yea, not going to lie that is probably the primary motivator here.

Aceticon , (edited ) in Linux during the mid to late 90s (Windows 95 and 98 era)

In the early 90s all the “cool kids” (for a techie definition of “cool”, i.e. hackers) at my University (a Technical one in Portugal with all the best STEM degrees in the country) used Linux - it was actually a common thing for people to install it in the PCs of our shared computer room.

Later in that decade it was already normal for it to be used in professional environments for anything serving web pages (static or dynamic) along with Apache: Windows + IIS already had a lower fraction of that Market than Linux + Apache.

If I remember it correctly in the late 90s RedHat started providing their Enterprise Version with things like Support Contracts - so beloved by the Corporates who wanted guarantees that if their systems broke the supplier would fix them - which did a lot to boost Linux use on the backend for non-Tech but IT heavy industries.

I would say this was the start of the trend that would ultimately result in Linux dominating on the server-side.

erwan , (edited )

I have to say, as a Linux fan in the 90’s it was very cool to see Linux eating the whole server space, replacing older Unix while Microsoft tried desperately to grow Windows on the server market.

Aceticon ,

I was already a dev in a small IT consultancy by the end of the decade, and having ended up as “one of the guys you go to for web-based interfaces”, I did my bit pushing Linux as a solution, though I still had to use IIS on one or two projects (even had to use Oracle Web Application Server once), mainly because clients trusted Microsoft (basically any large software vendor, such as Microsoft, IBM or Oracle) but did not yet trust Linux.

That’s why I noticed the difference that Red Hat with their Enterprise version and Support Plans did on the acceptability of Linux.

Ephera , in Slowroll Set for a Quarter of Updates

Recently switched from Tumbleweed. Giving up on Plasma 6.1 was a bit of a bummer, although presumably that should arrive in 5 days.

But yeah, I’m currently not really using my personal laptop except on the weekend, so not having a big update waiting every weekend is going to be nice.

___ , in Why do you still hate Windows?

After decades of user interfaces and internet access, we’re making things worse rather than better.

Someone at Microsoft realized that hardware will speed up, hiding the fact that the OS is getting bloated and riddled with code that doesn’t directly benefit the user.

The value Windows provides isn’t great enough to deal with this state any longer. In fact, my experience shows it’s slower and just as buggy.

We have technology available to improve experiences, let’s not mix it with profit incentives for once.

ashaman2007 , in Running a business using linux

I think the key part here is that it’s a guess on your part whether using Firefox is the cause. Do you get any specific error when using the website? Or does something just “not work”, such as you click a button and it does nothing?

Also, I’ve run into stuff like this before, and my best bet has been to be flexible about using other browsers to work around issues. I would suggest testing the banking website with Chromium (or even Chrome). If it works, file a bug with Mozilla (…mozilla.org/…/file-bug-report-or-feature-request…) and just use Chromium/Chrome for only that website until the bug is fixed.

This will allow you to still do business, while still participating in open source via a helpful bug report that could end up benefitting others as well.

fellowmortal OP ,

It works on chromium, not firefox. I guess I should be more flexible. It is likely that the bug is in the bank’s site, so I wasn’t sure about putting in a bug report. The website pauses on the ‘loading’ animated icon, when you try to navigate away, it tells you ‘Your session has expired’. It hasn’t been fixed by changing the user-agent (assuming I got it right). I don’t know if the bank would give them a dummy account for testing, but I’ll file a report anyway.

ashaman2007 ,

If it works on chromium I’d consider that even if it is a quirk on the bank website, chromium is handling it cleanly and allowing you to use the site. That’s something we probably want incorporated in Firefox. I’d encourage submitting the bug report to Mozilla, and don’t assume too much about what they can/cannot do!

mumblerfish ,

My bank blocked “firefox” at some point on debian. Then it was because the version of firefox presented it self to be too old (because debian) to the bank so they blocked me. Firefox was up to date on security pathes, but the bank did not understand that and blocked.

borari ,

Slam an Edge user agent up in there.

xavier666 ,

I remember the good old times when testers has to check if their sites work on Chrome/Firefox/Opera/Safari/Edge.

LesserAbe ,

Do you use an ad blocker or privacy extension? I’ll just throw out there I don’t think it’s right, but I’ve had to disable adblock to get some banking site stuff to work

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