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Sanctus ,
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I mean you have to buy it on your own accord, culture your own cells, and then successfully cook and eat them. As long as you aren’t stealing other people’s cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

Godric OP ,

But it’s still cannibalism, yeah? If someone consented to be eaten before they died or even wished for it, would you be OK with eating them?

jws_shadotak ,

would you be OK with eating them

are they yummy ?

Godric OP ,

Haven’t tried it, you’ll have to make your own judgement there!

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

We have to draw some sort of line here though. Will this give you prions? Does this end the person’s life like traditional cannibalism usually does? Theres a lot to unpack in these tiny man steaks. I’d still rather people be growing their own meat at home in a petri dish than having animals locked in cages for eternity.

Godric OP ,

In the current hypothetical:

  1. It’s screened, you can’t legally sell prion meat
  2. It’s taken nonlethally as a sample from a consenting human, possibly you
Astronauticaldb ,

So, if it were the original cells, then it would be autocannibalism, since these are cloned cells (from what I gather) it’s technically not the same thing. [Edit: Personally, it’s a bit of a tossup in my mind. I don’t think it’s unethical, but it’s still a weird thing]

Godric OP ,

Yeah, I’m also unsure how I feel about it, I asked because it’s such a strange thing to think about

garbagebagel ,

This is unironically one of my favourite questions to ask new friends. I’ve gotten a variety of answers, but my own response has always been yes, if the person was healthy and had clearly consented.

In my opinion, cannibalism is bad for two main reasons, 1) it can be unsafe if the person was ill, the meat has spoiled, or if it’s done too often (this has been studied in cannibalistic rituals) and 2) it’s unethical if the person doesn’t consent to it.

Eating animal meat is non consensual and there can be diseases in there too - many people have died from it. Just because it’s more socially acceptable, I don’t really see it as an ethically better decision.

I would 100% at least try my own home grown meat cells.

Godric OP ,

Damn, I love your response, even though I don’t know of I agree! Are you Vegan?

I personally see it as No, because I see us humans as special. Speaking as an atheist, end of day, we are special as humans.

I eat meat, I try to limit it to the ethically harvested. Hunted, family farm grown, it even tastes the best, any concerns aside. But eating a person is WRONG, consent or no.

Guntrigger ,

It’s interesting that you ask if they are vegan, as if understanding the ethical problems of eating meat would only be valid if you are also strictly vegan.

You evidently understand it is not completely ethically correct to eat animals in all circumstances, as you say you only eat ethically harvested meat. But you also say you believe humans to be special as a reason to eat animals, so why not eat all animals under all circumstances?

The main point though, why would it still be wrong to eat human meat if lab grown and consensual?

abfarid ,
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Why is it wrong though? And why/how are people special? You didn’t provide any reasoning to either.

idiomaddict ,

As long as it’s not coerced, yes (not the brain).

Timecircleline ,

If you’re eating yourself I think it’s autophagy

Ibaudia ,
@Ibaudia@lemmy.world avatar

stealing other people’s cells to eat them

This will become a sex thing for sure

Aggravationstation ,

I made a post about that a while ago: feddit.uk/post/14228639

abbadon420 ,

Streets ahead

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

There’s a (pretty great) movie where cannibalism is treated as a substitute for sex. It’s called Aamis.

dutchkimble ,

And what if you don’t own a Honda?

bdonvr ,

As long as you aren’t stealing other people’s cells to eat them without their consent it seems more ethical than the current meat industry.

Even if you did, while super weird as long as you didn’t get the cells through violence it’s probably still more ethical than the meat industry.

Xtallll ,
@Xtallll@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

You can probably use some violence and still come out ahead. I don’t know how to do that math though.

edgemaster72 ,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

without causing harm to animals

  • Humans are animals
  • Growing me-steak and eating it causes psychic damage
  • Therefore, an animal was harmed
Godric OP ,

If we cultured cells from someone with an autocannibalism fetish, would it then be OK?

Like I take 1d4 psychic damage whenever I see furries at cons, but I don’t think they should have to be banned

Ziglin ,

I don’t think you can generalize that. I’d love to have little me-steaks and I’d even share them with friends, especially if they can be a Möbius strip.

As long as the human chooses to grow their me-steaks themselves I see no issue.

NegativeLookBehind ,
@NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world avatar

Would any of you care to taste my meat?

Soulg ,

Of course it’s ethical, unless I’m seriously misunderstanding something you literally have to make the decision to buy it and then partake in it.

I guess you can use it unethically but by default intended usage it’s fine

Agent641 ,

What if I want to grow my steak into a hollow-cylinder shape, and also, not eat it, per-se?

LotrOrc ,

I would be worried about disease first, but if it’s your own cells maybe there’s less chance? Prions are terrifying

My second question would be taste

If there’s no disease and it tastes good then fuck yeah all in

blindbunny ,

Theoretically, if you don’t consume any of spine or nervous system, you should be good.

filcuk ,

I can’t grow me a spine steak?
What even is the point then

SkunkWorkz ,

Those cannibals who got prions ate human brain.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical. I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird, but not unethical.

Decoy321 ,

I wouldn’t do that because that would feel weird,

I mean, it’s basically homemade spam. It’s kinda weird.

DarthFrodo ,

To me that’s more ethical than killing of billions of animals, and the latter is considered ethical.

I think most people would actually consider factory farming unethical, they just put the blame on the producers for treating animals like shit. And the producers are locked into a race to the bottom for competitive prices, so they’d blame the customers/market conditions.

Iheartcheese ,
@Iheartcheese@lemmy.world avatar

I would try this in a fucking heartbeat

PunnyName ,

Fuck yeah, I might lose weight!

TexasDrunk ,

Ethically sourced human? Same. Sign me the fuck up. Not for a subscription or anything, but I really want to try it.

VaalaVasaVarde ,

The perfect gift for RimWorld players.

Godric OP ,

Hush, its so imperfect, it only makes meat, not Cowboy Hats made out of Cowboys

NegativeInf ,

Yes. You consented. It’s just more you.

Samvega ,

I already have enough of me to go around.

ignotum ,

Man-made man-steaks beyond my comprehension

molten ,

Fuck, I’ve always wanted to eat human meat anyway. I’d kill for a sample like this. I don’t care about morals here. I’m a vegetarian. I just want to know. If my buddy was like “ayy we’re eating Dan from accounting’s arm tonight” I’d be there with no questions asked. The police can sort it out.

bjoern_tantau ,
@bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de avatar

I mean, if you’d kill for that you don’t need the kit.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

I don’t want to eat human meat, but I don’t mind if you kill that asshole from accounting.

xavier666 ,

Fun fact : Human meat is an excellent source of protein 🤓

interrobang ,

Thats what im thinking- i rarely eat meat but how could i pass up ethical long pig? Im too curious

Dasus ,
@Dasus@lemmy.world avatar

You can eat placenta, if you really want to eat human.

Madventures in New Guinea - Mad Cook meets the placenta

hungryphrog ,

I’d kill for a sample like this.

oh boy do I have something to tell you

Rolder ,

Isn’t cannibalism a good way to get prion based diseases? Or is that only if you eat other people

Saledovil ,

If you’re eating yourself, no. If you have a disease to pass on, you can’t catch the disease, because you already have it.

xavier666 ,

You mean to say you can’t get STDs if you fuck yourself?

Saledovil ,

Yeah, same principle.

gens ,

You can’t eat the brain. AFIK, never tried human.

Lemming421 ,
@Lemming421@lemmy.world avatar

You can’t eat the brain.

Shouldn’t

AlligatorBlizzard ,

Remember that guy on Reddit who claims he had to have his leg amputated and he somehow got to keep it, and he and his friends cooked and ate it?

That’s weird, but as long as it remains their own, or consenting others, I think it’s fine. The minute capitalism gets involved I think it becomes exploitative and unethical - long pork in the grocery store fundamentally should not be a thing.

GluWu ,

God help me if I live in some commie zone where they take my amputated body parts to give to everyone. I grew those and they’re mine! Fuck your science, I wanna eat my foot.

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Who gave a Resident Evil villager access to Lemmy 💀

Pothetato ,
@Pothetato@lemmy.world avatar

This is fine. I probably taste good.

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