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s_s , in Bye biiiittttchhhh

Electric cars are still a 3 ton object you’ll needlessly try to dispose of in 5 years.

Electric cars are here to save the car companies, not the environment.

Rooki ,
@Rooki@lemmy.world avatar

1 word: Batteries

the_third ,

Mine weighs 1.5 tons and is going strongly into it’s sixth year of existence at about 95% capacity left. 3/4 of the year I’m driving it exclusively using power from my own roof. It uses about 14kWh/100km which is the equivalent of about 1.3 Liters of Gasoline. I fail to see how all of this is not an advantage.

kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E ,

You fail to see how basing an economy on the premise of (almost) everyone relying on 1.5ton machine to get around? I fail to see what’s so difficult to see

While relatively better, it’s still incredibly wasteful

the_third ,

So, what do we do with this insight? Like, right now?

WhiteHawk ,

We keep complaining, obviously.

Swedneck ,
@Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

buy a moped?

the_third ,

I have an electric bike for those instances where I only need to transport myself and a backpack. But then again, I’ve got a few hectars of forest to take care of, family within a 100km radius and a girlfriend and a dog, so riding my bike is not always an option.

afraid_of_zombies ,

Yeah I am not doing that again. It was fun when I was single but not so much when you have kids. Yes I have done the sidecar thing and yes I have been to regions of the world where this is the norm. Not doing it again, all it takes is one accident and my family will be dead.

s_s ,

Encourage investment in public transit.

the_third ,

Yes, a noble idea, sure, but what do I do now with the ressources available to me? I am not a politician, people here laugh about the green party because most of them are farmers, land owners and factory workers, so voting green has some sort of meaning for the stats but doesn’t impact anything in local politics. I don’t own a company, I’m not responsible for public transport or any decisions related to it and I’m not rich enough for outright bribery lobbyism, so what I can do is:

  • turn most of my appliances to running on electricity
  • make as much electricity as possible locally from renewables

Hence, electric cars. Oh yeah, and taking the bike when possible, I do that.

FiniteLooper ,

That’s awesome, but how much does a car + charger + home batteries + solar roof cost upfront? I know it will eventually pay itself off.

I would love to go the same path but I know the upfront cost of all of this stuff can be pretty insane

the_third ,

Home batteries, wallbox for the cars (honestly, those are just fancy plugs with some switching logic) and panels was about 30k€, heatpump and floor heating was about 60k€. The heatpump helps with using even more of my own energy. Currently I’m almost 100% self sufficient (including mobility, except for lonmg range drives) between the middle of march and the middle of october, which is okay. At current inflation rates all this will have paid for itself in about 18 years in comparison to more traditional versions of all of it.

AI_toothbrush ,

Me love traaaiins!

RememberTheApollo_ ,

Got any stats for that or is it just the usual anti-EV BS where you equate EVs to cellphones? No? Of course you don’t and are just making shit up.

schnokobaer ,

Anti-EV? The fuck are you talking about this is anti car dependance.

RememberTheApollo_ ,

I’m referring to the “dispose of in 5 years” comment, as if EVs are easily outmoded throwaway tech like cellphones.

A fairly standard anti-EV comment, often paired with the “worse for the environment” comment.

I_Has_A_Hat ,

Anti-car folks are the same as anti-meat folks. Too busy being right to notice that even if they’re right, the rest of the world isn’t going to agree with them. So they shit on any idea for improvement that isn’t complete abstinence.

People in general aren’t going to give up cars anytime soon, just like people aren’t going to give up meat. It’d be great if everyone did, but that’s a pipedream if you think that could happen in at least the next decade or two. So maybe efforts to reduce the impact of those kinds of things aren’t necessarily wasted.

schnokobaer ,

Coming straight from “unless 100% of people abstain 100% I’m not calling it change”-folks. There’s significant shifts in both of these issues. Meat more so, or leading ahead compared to cars, but the fact that some people aren’t going to drop one or either doesn’t change anything about that.

So maybe efforts to reduce the impact of those kinds of things aren’t necessarily wasted.

Not only are they not wasted, they are absolutely necessary. What’s important to understand is, however, that large parts of the negative impact of cars aren’t affected by EVs at all. It’s not just internal combustion engine exhaust pollution, it’s the waste of space, gigatons of asphalt for roads and parking, microplastics from rubber tires driven endless miles by a billion people, traffic congestions and the never-ending demand for another lane to fix them, ““cities”” sprawling out so far that everything is too far to get to by any means other than driving, pedestrian (if such a thing even still exists in your neck of the woods) safety, noise, socioeconomic factors such as the high upkeep costs vs low-income population who are reliant on a car in a car dependant world, …

We have to transition to EVs either way, but it’s not going to fix anything meaningful. And that’s just the neutral outlook, a real danger we’re facing is that through car manufacturers’ greenwashing that is already in full swing, we coax ourselves to a good eco conscience over our no-emissions cars and continue growing the dependency, which would eventually increase the impact. The only real way of reducing the impact is by reducing cars and car dependency where it’s possible. And people are, very slowly, waking up to the fact that this is more often the case than they were led to believe by lobby driven media and politics of the last 60 years.

jameskirk ,
@jameskirk@startrek.website avatar

5 years??? You change cars every 5 years?

IHaveTwoCows ,

Its a three ton object that isnt spewing fucking exhaust everywhere. Fuck off

mrpants ,

It’s actually spewing tire and brake particles everywhere. It’s responsible for 30% of microplastics in our environment. It should not be anywhere near our main mode of transportation in the future.

SeeMinusMinus , in Chad scraper
@SeeMinusMinus@lemmy.world avatar

The sad part is that scrapping is often easier then using the api.

clbustos ,

So true that it hurta

Anonymousllama ,

Much less beholden to arbitrary rules also. Way too many times companies will just up and lift their API access or push through restrictions. No ty, I’ll just access it myself then

AeroLemming ,

Cough Reddit cough

SeeMinusMinus ,
@SeeMinusMinus@lemmy.world avatar

API starter kit

  • Outdated and unsupported and hasn’t been replaced yet but is the standard way to use the service.
  • Lots of authorization tokens.
  • The example in the docs doesn’t work (if there is one).
  • You have no idea where the online tutorial got the information because it doesn’t have links to resources and the docs have barely anything even though its giant.
  • Uses asynchronous programming to make it faster but its still much much slower then scrapping without asynchronous programming.
Fizz , in Immune to marketing
@Fizz@lemmy.nz avatar

Autistic people fall hand over foot for propaganda.

DragonTypeWyvern ,

I believe you no questions asked

Razzazzika ,

Certainly when I was younger that was absolutely the case. I like to think now that I’m older I’m a little more of a free thinker. But ads? Specifically targeted ads? I don’t stand a chance. If I see a game on sale that I’m mildly interested in or a new D&D source book that sounds cool I will buy it without regard for if I need that money for something else.

Squorlple ,
@Squorlple@lemmy.world avatar

@elonmusk

Jackcooper , in Why are there people like this?!

You wouldn’t be able to pay me to be seen with Tate

I don’t like Musk much at all but I’d prob pay $100 to eat dinner with him and try to figure out wtf the rationale for some of his moves has been.

The psychopaths who think they can get Musk/JayZ/etc to be their sugar daddy and find their wildest dreams or suddenly teach them how to be rich fucks…yeah they kind of scare me

tdawg , in He was ahead of his time

Not surprised that the kind of person worried about this is also the kind of person to try this solution

Rilichu ,

“Those insidious trans trying to trick people into sleeping with them! They just don’t have any respect for people’s body autonomy.

Now anyways, time for me to drug random women without their consent.”

ICastFist , in 😲😲
@ICastFist@programming.dev avatar

Assassinating people is frowned upon? Shiiiiiit, son, next you’ll tell me these barbarians get pissed when their shit is stolen!

orphiebaby ,
@orphiebaby@lemmy.world avatar

Ninjas are illegal!

ThisGuysNeverSerious ,

Wait until you meet the minister that is a Prime. He looks like a holy Transformer just crushing sinners. He transforms into the pope mobile.

WheeGeetheCat , (edited ) in States Rights
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

Let’s play a game, look up the states articles of secession and see how many words you can make before you see a word starting with ‘slave’

battlefields.org/…/declaration-causes-seceding-st…

By my count, Texas maybe goes the longest before mentioning it, but they all do.

Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery–

Fucking yikes Mississippi.

db2 ,

*secession, succession is something else entirely.

WheeGeetheCat ,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

thanks, fixed

DillonBrooksEnjoyer ,

It’s definitely a blow for the “the civil war wasn’t about slavery” crowd lol. Like I’m all for not judging the past by modern morals and acting like confederates weren’t as human as the rest of us… but pretending the civil war had nothing to do with slavery is simply a farce.

Lapus ,

It had 100% to do with slavery. The south would not have been the cotton king with out them.

EhList ,
@EhList@lemmy.world avatar

There’s a meme in US history circles that goes

Elementary school- the civil war is about slavery

High school- it’s about slavery and the economic fears of the loss of slavery

College- it’s about states rights

Grad school- the US Civil War is unquestioningly all about slavery

CarbonIceDragon ,
@CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social avatar

Fucking yikes Mississippi

I mean, what can one expect from a state who’s state flag was this until less than 3 years ago?

Dee ,
@Dee@lemmy.world avatar

I forgot they changed it quite frankly. The old one suits their current government more accurately.

EhList ,
@EhList@lemmy.world avatar

Except NC who do not mention it because they left the USA after the war started. They didn’t need to mention it as everyone at the time knew.

WheeGeetheCat ,
@WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yea it seems like NC was trying to fence-sit and basically got knocked off the fence by the battle of Fort Sumter.

Vitaly_Chernobyl ,
@Vitaly_Chernobyl@lemmy.world avatar

Also check out Alexander H. Stephen’s (Vice-President of the Confederate States) Cornerstone speech.

“The new constitution has put at rest, forever, all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institution African slavery as it exists amongst us the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.”

“Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition.”

It’s amazing the amount of mental gymnastics slavery apologists commit to considering the wealth of primary sources describing how the succession and war were directly related to slavery.

WarmSoda ,

That’s some heritage they had going.

darcy , (edited ) in Say it ain’t so
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

calling meat, cheese, and bread healthy

wow that food pyramid propaganda really did a number on you all didnt it.

Edit: im talking about the meat and dairy industies lobbying too, not just bread

abraxas , (edited )

It seems odd putting meat in the same category as bread.

In terms of pure health, there’s not much out there better than most meats. Yes, beef is a bit lower than pork and chicken, but properly portioned (looking at most of us Americans) it has very few downsides.

Bread on the other hand can be one of the worst foods we can eat. Of course, it is still all about moderation.

EDIT: Why the reddit-like downvotes folks? There’s really no cohesive argument that puts meat below bread healthwise in most situations. If you want to avoid meat, avoid meat. If you want to be morally opposed to anyone eating meat, so be it. Facts are still facts and misinformation isn’t the right way to fight that battle.

gummybootpiloot ,

Bread can be healthy, just make sure it’s wholegrain. Read meat is acosiates with bad health outcomes..

But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

abraxas ,

Yes, bread can be healthy. The right one in moderation. The same as red meat (per your reference), actually :).

But 80/20 extra-fattened with liver for a delicious burger? Definitely not healthy (but like a candy bar, it’s ok to have one every months or two)

swordsmanluke ,

The doctor in your link says processed meat is likely bad all around, presumably due to additives, but that red meat in lower amounts (specifically, he says “2-3 times a week” and to use red meat as a side, instead of a main) is actually associated with lower health risks.

willeypete23 ,

Your “source” is one doctor speaking out against and entire study where the researchers found “low” evidence that either red meat or processed meat is harmful. That’s not low health risks, or low percentage of affected individuals, but low evidence that here are any risks at all.

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

yeah people do its not uncommon here

Daisyifyoudo ,

But yeah nobody is going to put a wholegrain bun on their hamburger.

Uhh. Why not? Whole Grain comes in all shapes and sizes now. Hell, most higher end restaurants use whole grain buns. Not sure why you would conclude that?

gummybootpiloot ,

This makes me think you’ve never had a 100% wholegrain bread

Daisyifyoudo ,

Do you live somewhere in the world where it’s hard to get? I rarely eat bread, but when I do buy from the store it’s always 100% wholegrain. I just bought some a few weeks ago and there were plenty of different choices on the shelf.

gummybootpiloot ,

No wholegrain is easy to get. Just nog as burger buns in a restaurant. I wasn’t talking about bread in a supermarket

RobbieGM ,

Bread can be one of the worst foods we can eat

Why?

abraxas ,

I said it elsewhere. Basically, it combines low nutritional value with a high density pack of too-easily-digested carbs.

The effect is that it increases blood sugar and hunger, which very easily leads to higher weight. Higher weight alone is not immediately unhealthy, but it can get unhealthy pretty fast if you get heavier and heavier.

And the only objection is “well, better than sugar, so it’s not THAT bad”… But we have a lot of added sugar in bread here in the US.

Diprount_Tomato ,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Well, they sure have necessary nutrients

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

i love the greatest source of carcinogens in an average diet 🤤🤤

Diprount_Tomato ,
@Diprount_Tomato@lemmy.world avatar

Everything is a fucking carcinogen, get over it and eat an actually balanced diet with exercise

darcy ,
@darcy@sh.itjust.works avatar

nah meat and dairy is kinda gross

BuboScandiacus ,
@BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz avatar

Meat ?

b1_ , in But if you close your eyes,
@b1_@kbin.social avatar

Does this mean I won't be able to use the letter 'x' anymore because a multi-billion dollar company has trademarked it:

  • Two people fighting will now be boing.
  • When I want to bake some bread I will mi the ingredients together.
  • When I want to leave a building I will eit it.
  • I will now look up to the stars at night to see the magnificent epance of the Milkyway galay.
brap ,

Xiaomi be like, you will what your ingredients together?

Micromot ,

It’s now iaomi

Motorheadbanger ,

It’s that guy from Black Sabbath!

SGforce ,

Oh boxing! Omg I’m an idiot lol

b1_ ,
@b1_@kbin.social avatar

See how confusing it's going to be. Thanks, Elon Musk, thanks for nothing you jerk!

HonkTonkWoman ,

You’ll have to replace them all with q’s:

  • boqing
  • miq
  • eqit
  • galaqy
Mirshe ,

Ah dammit we just reinvented Esperanto.

gornar ,
@gornar@lemmy.world avatar

Upvote for Esperanto!

Lifes_Like_Plinko ,

Multiplication relegated to the scrapbooks of history. Pour one out for mathmatics.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Roman numerals are out, I guess.

pfannkuchen_gesicht ,

just use “ks” instead, e.g.

  • boksing
  • miksing
  • eksit
  • galaksy
SuperRyn ,

elon musk and mark zuckerberg will be boksqing in a cage match neksqt month perhaps

monsterpiece42 ,

I think boing is a pretty fun name for boxing actually!

Jimbo , in Maybe this is better for everyone
@Jimbo@yiffit.net avatar

Yeah I respect vegans, and applaud them for their life choices. I’m not in a position to, or willing at this point to become a vegan, but I looked at their community… Mostly insults when referring to any meat eater. Yeah, I respect them a fair bit less now.

davepleasebehave ,

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  • commie ,

    Person who pays for animals to be tortured

    no one does that

    BruceTwarzen ,

    You can keep telling yourself that if it helps.

    commie ,

    if you have evidence to the contrary, you should present it.

    fuckingkangaroos ,

    I’m guessing they mean factory farming

    commie ,

    have you ever paid anyone at a factory farm? i haven’t, and i don’t think most people have.

    commie ,

    in torture, the pain is the point. while i think factory farming is too ambivalent about suffering, i also believe the suffering is only incidental, not intentional. it’s not torture.

    davepleasebehave ,

    perhaps you could explain that subtle difference to the animals going through the system of abuse.

    Im sure it would brighten up their days no end to realise the pain they are experiencing is not the point of the system and that therefore, they are not being tortured.

    commie ,

    perhaps you could explain that subtle difference to the animals

    i don’t think i can, no. but propagandists can choose to stop using emotionally charged and incorrect terms.

    davepleasebehave ,

    funny that a person called commie doesn’t understand exploitation.

    commie ,

    this is just posturing and rhetoric. i have no problem with most forms of exploitation (this is true of most people i think). my problem is unfair, or even non-consensual, exploitation of other people.

    davepleasebehave ,

    Nice one comrade!

    commie ,

    it is nice to have an examined world-view and be able to defend it, even against the most sinister sophists and zealots.

    lowleveldata ,

    Yes that’s how you have a conversation. Good job.

    Snowpix ,
    @Snowpix@lemmy.ca avatar

    Dave, in fact, could not behave and could not resist a personal attack.

    davepleasebehave ,

    is it very personal?

    finitebanjo ,

    What part of insulted their individual lifestyle seems like business to you?

    davepleasebehave ,

    they said that they pay to have things killed on their behalf.

    if they say it, then it ain’t very personal is it?

    Kusimulkku ,

    “It’s not a personal attack if you provided me with the information I used to attack you”

    davepleasebehave ,

    rather than paying for an actual physical attack on an animal.

    Kusimulkku ,

    I’m just saying that your logic over it not being a personal attack is funny.

    davepleasebehave ,

    I get your point, but I’m still not really sure how personal it is.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar
    SkyeStarfall ,

    Where is the border between acceptable and not acceptable lifestyle? The animals can’t consent. If you beat your wife, is that also an individual lifestyle we have to respect? What if you neglect and beat your pets, for a closer example? What if your individual lifestyle is dumping trash into the ocean?

    finitebanjo ,

    Luckily we pass laws to regulate unacceptable lifestyles.

    Go pass some laws. Instead of trying to be a vegan vigilante, try to organize and show compassion to people. Even if that means being belittled in the process, you’ll have the moral high ground.

    Leate_Wonceslace ,
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Do you not understand what the word “personal” means, or are you confused about this usage of attack?

    davepleasebehave ,

    maybe you could enlighten me

    Leate_Wonceslace ,
    @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

    Alright. If I were to say something like “You’re a dumbass, and have no room to criticize.” that’d be a personal attack because I’d be making a (metaphorical) attack on your person (character). Hope that helps.

    davepleasebehave ,

    sure. I did not say anything like that. I just reminded the poster that they pay people to abuse and kill animals.

    Is that really so personal?

    Exatron ,

    Your performative concern for animals is noted.

    davepleasebehave ,

    I’ll put those performative points into my V card for later use.

    IzzyJ ,
    @IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

    And this is why its impossible to have a conversation with yall. Even if you believe this, if you are hostile to outsiders, you just guarantee theyll want to do it more. Cult deprogrammers have to be real nice and mostly just listen for a reason

    Glytch ,

    Says the person who pays for humans to be tortured they can have a phone.

    See? We can all make disingenuous, insulting statements; but that’s not productive in getting people to listen to us.

    davepleasebehave ,

    depending on how you see things, abuse is part of any system. that said, humans are at least able to be a part of the system and have dialogue with the system. there is potential to effect a system.

    this cannot be said for a 4 day old calf being taken away from the mother for slaughter just so the mother can continue to lactate and little fat Jonny can have his full fat on his frosties again.

    lastly, it’s hardly insulting to remind people that they pay for disgusting levels of animal abuse.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    When you know what occurs in factory farming. Its hard to continue to be nice to others who have the ability to stop supporting the cruel system with their money.

    Its often easier to go vegan than people initially believe. You can do it.

    IzzyJ ,
    @IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

    We really dont though. It is simply not realistic to fight for an ethic that requires the overwhelming majority to be hyperrational in their ethics. Human nature tends toward cruelty, and Ive yet to see a vegan have recourse for that.

    Setting aside the whole plants feel pain too bit

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    People are cruel often because of the systems they’re raised in. I could show you many instances where kindness is punished in order to maintain the status quo of hierarchical systems. Humans can be much more ethical if we chose to be.

    Plant react to stimuli however they do not have the nervous system to process pain like the way cows and pigs do.

    IzzyJ ,
    @IzzyJ@lemmy.world avatar

    And yet people default to those systems and have since the agricultural revolution.

    As for plant stimuli, who are you to say that doesn’t constitute pain? They sure communicate it to those around them, cut grass smell and all that. Does an ant not feel pain because it mostly just responds to and sends out pheromones? Bit of a “my red is your blue” argument you’re making.

    Beaver ,
    @Beaver@lemmy.ca avatar

    By eating plant-based you reduce the amount of plants that are grown for human consumption since you skip the farm animals completely “if you’re so concerned about plants feeling pain”

    You wouldn’t kick a person and justify that logic saying “but plants feel pain every time you walk on grass”

    ImplyingImplications , in Two slightly off centre parallel universes

    And then your brain puts them both together and erases your nose

    HipsterTenZero ,
    @HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone avatar

    Well, it was doing that until you pointed it out…

    Schorsch ,

    Brain: “Me!? … What?? I’m NOT doing that!!”

    random_character_a , in Shart, not fart
    @random_character_a@lemmy.world avatar

    Musk still rich

    CobblerScholar , in damn

    Not to be too Disney about it but getting sober is cool as hell, that shit is hard to do

    wondrous_strange ,

    Not disney at all… hardcore af. Also being sober has its own trippiness

    pmmeyourseedbombs ,

    I like to be sober on shrooms

    Soup ,

    Also I can’t understand how it would make you fat, either. “I stopped drinking alcohol and all this water is making me tubby!”

    shasta ,

    Alcohol is not usually considered a drug.

    Soup ,

    That is cultural. It’s poison you take to change your mind state and small enough amounts are usually tolerable enough to not cause too much of a problem. I have a drink from time to time but to say otherwise is incorrect.

    That said, I’m not sure where I said that it was.

    todd_bonzalez ,
    @todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

    I’m not sure where I said that it was [drugs].

    You didn’t say it, the meme said it.

    shasta ,

    Ok now put it in context to this conversation. The post said he gained weight after he became sober from “drug abuse”. You said it is unlikely to gain weight when you quit abusing alcohol. So therefore… He was not abusing alcohol but some other drug that has a side effect of weight loss. You’re welcome, now you can continue not using your brain.

    Soup ,

    Oh I just read them as separate things, that’s all.

    todd_bonzalez ,
    @todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee avatar

    A drug is literally any substance one consumes for its effects, rather than for sustenance.

    Meth is a drug

    Ibuprofen is a drug

    Marijuana is a drug

    Caffeine is a drug

    Ketamine is a drug

    Alcohol is a drug

    MeThisGuy ,

    not to forget nicotine…

    the amount of rehab places that allow for nicotine is nuts

    tfw_no_toiletpaper ,

    If you abused any stims that make you lose weight a lot, dropping them usually pushes your bodyweight in the other direction. Know a few people like this. They always relapse

    Pilferjinx ,

    And think of all the cool shit you’ve always wanted to do but couldn’t because you were too broke and too high that you can now start.

    Seraph , in Went to r/conservative to see how they're doing
    @Seraph@fedia.io avatar

    Friendly reminder the one thing fascists can't stand is to be laughed at. So we need to laugh a lot at them!

    macarthur_park ,

    TIL fascists are boggarts from Harry Potter

    Wogi ,

    That’s weird

    HowManyNimons , in Why do we put up with this crap?

    Cheaper innit.

    Tja ,

    Succinct

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