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Why stand in line to board an airplane?

The seats are assigned. People have been standing in line for 15 minutes now. Why on earth would anyone want to stand there, when they could just sit and wait until the line clears?

I understand wanting to get off a plane ASAP, but boarding? You just end up sitting on the plane, waiting for everyone else to get on.

superduperpirate ,

I’m about to be seated for five hours straight with no possibility of standing or moving around. I’m standing while I still have the opportunity.

CaptPretentious ,

I didn’t used too get in line. But I’ve had a number of times someone took to much carry on (how I don’t know) and took all of the overhead space, refused to fix it, and the airline didn’t give a fuck either.

cyberpunk007 ,

This is why I do. I typically just take a small bag for under the seat and a small carry on suitcase. Some people have so much shit, usually after a long flight the last thing you want is to be the last person off the plane because your carry on is 8 rows behind you.

jbrains ,

Overhead space for carry-on bags.

treadful ,
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https://media1.tenor.com/m/ihohWsIjTCcAAAAd/mr-burns-door.gif

Alexstarfire ,

So what you’re saying is, I’m indestructible.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, no, no, and in fact, even a slight breeze could be…

Alexstarfire ,

Indestructible

w3dd1e ,

Not all airlines assign seats. I learned this last year. Southwest doesn’t assign seats but you get assigned groups for boarding. You can probably pay for earlier groups but I don’t know, I wasn’t the one who purchased the tickets directly.

Anyways, you line up in order of your boarding assignment. The earlier you get on the plane the better seat you get.

I hated it. Just assign seats.

Elorie ,

This is why I won’t fly Southwest unless I have no other choice. Nice planes and otherwise lovely flight experience; shame about the seat policy. Every time I’ve tried, it’s a confused mess of pushy or perplexed people in line, and I end up completely annoyed before takeoff.

On the flip side, it’s free birth control. 😋

I’d rather sit and knit until my group is called and stroll up without rushing as I know exactly where I’m sitting. I watch people stress. SMH

w3dd1e ,

Yeah, it wasn’t so bad except for the boarding. But I’m with you. I don’t want to rush to be crammed into a can of sardines any longer than I have to be.

thoro ,

The no seat assignments policy on SW is awesome. You literally just check in on time to get on the earlier groups through a mobile app. Click a button 24 hrs before your flight. Boom you’re in group A. B at worst. It’s straight first come first served. At worst, you can pay $25 extra for the early bird to be in the A group and not stress about check in. Then then line you up based on your spot, and you just walk on and pick which seat you want. Plus SW doesn’t charge you to check a bag.

Egalitarian shit. None of this class based, money grubbing crap. Those types of policies are the reason we have “fast passes” at airports now and then of course then even faster “fast passes”.

Other airlines are also charging you after your tickets to choose your seats and they charge more based on the seat. And charging for bags. And everything else.

Assigned seats also ruined the theater experience for the same reasons.

CosmicCleric ,
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Assigned seats also ruined the theater experience for the same reasons.

Have to disagree with you on this one.

I love being able to choose what seat in a theater I’m purchasing, versus if it’s a full theater first come first served and you end up getting a horrible side or front row seat.

I’d rather skip a showing and go to a later showing with a more favorable seating arrangement, and having assigned seating allows me to have that.

laurelraven ,

I actually kind of dislike the assigned seating at movie theaters myself. It now doesn’t matter if i go early, the theater might already be nearly booked. The only way around this is to either make two trips to the theater or pay extra to buy online.

On the other hand, it does eliminate any rush to get there early once you have the ticket

CosmicCleric ,
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I actually kind of dislike the assigned seating at movie theaters myself. It now doesn’t matter if i go early, the theater might already be nearly booked. The only way around this is to either make two trips to the theater or pay extra to buy online.

I’m kind of confused why you don’t just call or check their website from home and reserve the seating, versus going down there in the first place?

If they’re full you’ve saved yourself a trip going down there to reserve seating, when you can do it from home online or via the phone. And I’ve never had a situation where I’ve had to pay extra for the seats, doing it over the phone or online.

On the other hand, it does eliminate any rush to get there early once you have the ticket

Yep, makes it really stress-free. You just walk in there and walk through the front door and just sit down in your seats.

laurelraven ,

Honestly, if they didn’t charge extra I’d probably not be so annoyed, but the theaters around me all add like a $3 “convenience” fee for booking online, which is complete bs since it’s actually saving them money not needing to keep as many people working

Capitalists will capitalist, though

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, extra fees to do that would suck like a vacuum cleaner set to high. Try letting the manager of the theater know that its b.s. to do that, you never know.

I actually got my local theater (long time ago) to stop having commercials shown after the lights go down, by talking to him (I’m not paying to watch commercials argument, basically).

thoro ,

Assigned seats mean you can hardly just ad hoc decide to see a movie nowadays. You basically have to plan it out. Used to be “hey let’s see the showing at 6. Ok let’s get there at 5:30 then.” Now, you go look and people already took the best seats and shows up mid preview. Or people buying literally all the seats weeks ahead of time for blockbusters.

How fun.

I haven’t seen any blockbuster on opening weekend in probably over a decade because I know the good seats are already purchased.

Also, the seating maps aren’t great.

CosmicCleric ,
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Assigned seats mean you can hardly just ad hoc decide to see a movie nowadays.

That’s not true. You can still ad hoc it.

At the time you want to go to the theater you just go, and when you buy your tickets you choose from whatever seats are available.

I don’t see how that’s any different than if you just walked up to the theater and bought tickets and got in the first come first serve line for seating.

thoro ,

The difference is that before you walked up and got in line or got in early enough that you walk in and choose your seats. And your position was based on your arrival order. Now, you walk up and sorry all seats but the front were bought up and no they aren’t here yet of course. Why would they be? It used to be you just timed it so you got there 30/45 minutes before the start.

I’m just yelling at clouds honestly. It’s not that big a thing, and I reserve seats nowadays often, but mostly because I basically have to. Also, theaters are only ever crowded enough to care during tent pole releases and nowadays I just wait a few weekends.

I just find the social contact of getting to the venue when an event takes place early/on time to get your pick a better experience than choosing a seat on an app early. Probably a condition from growing up pre reservations.

CosmicCleric ,
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Now, you walk up and sorry all seats but the front were bought up and no they aren’t here yet of course.

Fair enough, thought I’d argue that was still first-come-first served, but I get your point.

KeepFlying ,

I rarely sit when waiting for a plane (at least not for maybe an hour before). I’m about to sit for hours, so I don’t want to start now.

Tier1BuildABear ,
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This right here for me, I’m pretty tall too and can’t afford first class so if I’m about to be cramped for 3+ hours I’m gonna stretch my legs first

gazter ,

I’m about to sit down for the next six hours. I’m happy to stand for a bit.

Ultragigagigantic ,
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CGP Grey has a good video on a better way to board planes.

TinklesMcPoo ,

I know he acknowledges the capitalistic barrier to this solution but the other issue I see most often are folks simply not being there by boarding time. These methods all assume you would have everyone ready to board in their respective groups at once. I would imagine that throwing a few folks out of order in even the modified Steffen approach could bring down the theoretical time by quote a bit.

I like Bill Burrs stance as well

SuperCub ,

I think the reason people aren’t there at their zone’s boarding time is because they only print the initial boarding time on the ticket and just wing it after that.

kbin_space_program ,

Because you do not have assigned overhead bag storage, and people bring either bags that are too big, or bring multiple bags

classic ,

Exactly. The airlines created this situation when they began charging for check-in bags

PatMustard ,

Haven’t they “solved” it by charging for hand-luggage too?

randint ,
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Why does it seem like everyone in the comment section takes flights all the time? For me, flying on an airplane is for vacations abroad only, and I maybe get 2 flights a year at most. I assume this is one of those US things I’m too Asian to understand.

funkless_eck ,

lots of tech and business people use lemmy, we have to fly often.

JasonDJ ,

Yep.

Used to fly all the time for work.

After that, flying with my wife and kids, or standing in TSA line with the normies who don’t know what to do gets incredibly frustrating.

I remember getting stuck behind one Karen who was pissed off she had to toss out a giant bottle of hair conditioner, in like 2017. Like, lady, yeah, it’s dumb, but the 311 rule isn’t new. Get over yourself.

Potatos_are_not_friends ,

I was flying 4-5 times a year when I worked remotely for a tech company. First few times was neat. I got over it fast. A bunch of cities/airports really suck and treat you like cattle.

Dempf ,

We don’t have cool trains like you do in many parts of Asia.

And the Asian countries that don’t have trains are probably small enough that you still don’t really need to fly to get from one side to the other.

xkforce ,

Are you under the impression that the US has a bunch of trains that we use constantly? Because we dont.

Dempf ,

I wish we did, maybe someday.

pixelscript ,

I live in the US and I consider it unusual to fly more than once every two years.

Catsrules ,

It really depend on your job.

I know contractors that fly all over the place to get to different jobs and such.

GuitarAbuser ,

Standing in line brings me joy

harrys_balzac ,

Found the Brit.

MrBusiness ,

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/f700bd12-740b-4169-8b90-637f4325d670.webp

bunkyprewster , (edited )

Even worse, people have to pay to be in an earlier boarding group. I think they use limited overhead bin space as a hostage.

OhmsLawn OP ,

I’m actually in that group 1 position right now, in a LatAm A320 premium economy seat. Besides the service upgrade and baggage allowance, it’s just economy with the center seat reserved. Oh, and free messaging WiFi, too, which somehow includes Lemmy Sync.

xmunk ,

Because airlines have hiked the cost of checked luggage to absurd levels so a large number of people have roller suitcase carryons. I have a small messenger bag I travel with that’s soft-sided and I want to get on early so I can make sure it’s over my head in case some asshole tries to cram their bag in over mine.

TBi ,

One airline now charges for carry on. Checking in a small bag is free!

xmunk ,

Who is that? I want to give them all my fucking money.

bionicjoey ,

Relevant CGP Grey

OhmsLawn OP ,

I was just mentioning this to my lady before boarding. I found that video absolutely fascinating.

neidu2 , (edited )

Because once through thebgate, there’s the line of actually getting into your seat because some people tend to stand in the aisle and block everyone while taking their jacket off. And if you’re in a prioritized boarding group you can circumvent most of these by getting into the plane early, which results in more time watching youtube while sitting on my ass.

Source: frequent flier. In fact, I’m typing this from seat 9F on an Airbus A320neo right after sitting down.

sanguinepar ,
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There’s no way the airlines allow you to take a donkey onboard, surely?

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