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Why stand in line to board an airplane?

The seats are assigned. People have been standing in line for 15 minutes now. Why on earth would anyone want to stand there, when they could just sit and wait until the line clears?

I understand wanting to get off a plane ASAP, but boarding? You just end up sitting on the plane, waiting for everyone else to get on.

Pinklink ,

Agreed. Can we talk about getting off though? Everyone seems to have their own idea about how to do it and here is my proposal that I am very certain is the most efficient: plane lands at gate, but doors haven’t opened yet. The AISLE seats get up, get their bags, wait patiently in aisle till doors open. The WHOLE LINE of aisle standers files off (they are all ready to just leave), then the next inner seats get up, get their stuff, and file off, etc. Every time someone is “polite” and lets people get up infront of them, they hold up the entire line of aisle standers, and anyone else who could be getting up from their seat and grabbing their things. The entire plane has to wait each time someone says “yes I could just walk forward and leave the plane right now, but please go ahead and take your time getting out of your seat and grabbing your things before I go”

smb ,

I see only one reason, why i would want to be early at the seat. its bcs if i am not, my backpack might be placed above but multiple seats away by the crew, where it is then uneasy for me to have an eye on it whilst easy for theives to take and open them, especially on long flights there would be plenty of opportunity like when everyone is sleeping.

but for this case i use locks on the backpack anyway, so that anyone who wants to open it, either opens it where nothing of value is in it thus no lock, or at least has a much harder time than when trying the very same with other bags…

also on longer flights i usually did not have that problem, but that could also have been just luck

Raiderkev ,

Thieves aren’t buying multiple hundred dollar tickets to bip your laptop from your bag man.

smb ,
  1. i am sure you won’t pay for it if my laptop disappears this way (if yes, lets make a contract with a lifetime “fee” of 0$ i pay you whilst you pay for everything that got stolen from me in a plane)
  2. ppl with kleptomania do travel too
  3. how could you know? you are not talking about you and your colleagues or such?
  4. such statistics were made by those who benefit from planes looking more safe.
  5. “work and travel” vs “steal and travel”, which is more likely be done by a thiev?
  6. not all theives “need” to steal, some just do so because they can, others maybe because its family tradition.
  7. sometimes it could be more important that nobody could possibly put something into(!) your bag (and remove it later) to let you get it through customs for them, those arguably “would” buy such tickets to do so, as it’s probably part of their income, but i guess thats only a problem when flying in or out of countries with big illegal drug imports.
  8. <something i forgot>
Raiderkev ,

I’ve literally never had anything stolen from an overhead bin, and I’ve never given the slightest of fucks about monitoring my bags unless I was traveling to like a 3rd world country, and even then, it’s overkill to worry. It’s a captive audience, and the dumbest place to steal. The airline has everyone’s name/info. It’s certainly possible, for someone to, but definitely not likely.

smb ,

yeah, that’s why i am happy to avoid the us when travelling, mainly because of reports that electeonics are bricked regulary by them, but this discussion is more about theft. like “never allow hand luggage to be checked, better miss the flight instead”:

…stackexchange.com/…/how-common-is-it-for-airport…

it’s not always about travellers that could lay hands on your stuff, maybe staff “needs” a living wage too ;-)

Raiderkev ,

Yeah, but the op was talking about worrying about people on the plane stealing from his bag in the overhead bin, not the TSA stealing from it. But yeah, TSA is grimy AF, I always make sure to count my money before and after I put my wallet through the security line. I also wouldn’t trust valuables in a checked bag as well.

GBU_28 ,

Overhead space. The only upgrade I pay for is boarding group, and I want to maximize my upgrade purchase, so I want to be at the front of group 2.

I only travel with an appropriately sized carry-on but I’m a bit tall so I can NOT have the bag by my feet.

So I want to guarantee I have the overhead right above my seat.

I also generally work on the plane so I can get my laptop and such out easily while standing at my seat, then put my bag up worry free.

Frozengyro ,

Also, when you will likely be sitting for 2+ hours, I like to stretch my legs a bit before then. I don’t need to sit at my gate for an hour before going into a plane to sit for 3 more hours.

modifier ,

This is the answer. Trace it back to the early 2000s when airlines started charging for checked bags. That created an immediate premium for overhead space and kicked off the Boarding Wars we now find ourselves in today, where airlines and passengers alike contort themselves literally and figuratively in an attempt to work around this one massive consequence of corporate greed.

-20 airline professional

GBU_28 ,

I wish there was just seat designations in the overhead. If shit is in my slot, yeet.

jkrtn ,

I agree. But this would require them to provide adequate space up there for each passenger. They are squeezing seats together so tightly that may no longer be possible.

modifier ,

Bin designs are just now getting to the point where there is something like a 1:1 relationship between passengers and overhead space. Only a small fraction of the flights operating (at least in the US) have these bins, though.

Some of the new Boeing aircraft, as it happens, so it’s a trade off…

Raiderkev ,

I literally chill til the very end of boarding before I get on. Like you said, my seat is assigned, it ain’t changing, and I’m packed light enough to put my backpack under the seat in front of me. Sometimes people don’t show up n I sneak into a better seat 🤫. I’ve only ever been called out for that on Frontier, they know the hustle apparently. I’ve never bothered trying 1st class or anything, but I’ve gotten some middle seats to transform into aisles that way.

nutsack ,

brother you and I are the same

xmunk ,

Because airlines have hiked the cost of checked luggage to absurd levels so a large number of people have roller suitcase carryons. I have a small messenger bag I travel with that’s soft-sided and I want to get on early so I can make sure it’s over my head in case some asshole tries to cram their bag in over mine.

TBi ,

One airline now charges for carry on. Checking in a small bag is free!

xmunk ,

Who is that? I want to give them all my fucking money.

lanolinoil ,
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The sooner I get to my seat the sooner I’m out of the god damned airport and can begin whatever escapism I’ve chosen for the flight. The thing I truly hate is the airport and being in it.

schnurrito ,

Especially if that “escapism” is sleeping

lanolinoil ,
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I wish – I can’t really sleep on flights oddly but I can fall asleep instantaneously almost everywhere else.

BaroqBard ,

Big issue for musicians. Many of us have instruments that are just small enough to be carry-ons but just large enough to be a bit unwieldy compared to other carry-ons, so nabbing primo carry-on storage is a must.

GuitarAbuser ,

Standing in line brings me joy

harrys_balzac ,

Found the Brit.

MrBusiness ,

https://lemmy.zip/pictrs/image/f700bd12-740b-4169-8b90-637f4325d670.webp

Conyak ,

If you have a bag to put in the overhead compartment then you want to get on sooner since the space is limited. I personally only ever take a bag that can go under the seat. I wait until everyone has boarded regardless of my group.

spudsrus ,

This is the correct answer. If I’m on an overseas holiday I’m usually carrying an extra bag of medication.

If I wait I run the risk of no storage space near me and it getting stored away from me

treadful ,
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https://media1.tenor.com/m/ihohWsIjTCcAAAAd/mr-burns-door.gif

Alexstarfire ,

So what you’re saying is, I’m indestructible.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Oh, no, no, and in fact, even a slight breeze could be…

Alexstarfire ,

Indestructible

Professorozone ,

Yup, exactly what I think. So I used to sit in the gate area until the last possible moment until I found out that if you wait too long, they’ll give away your seat. Plus since they are charging people for checking luggage through, you have to get that overhead bin before it’s gone, unless your carry-on fits in front of you, which it doesn’t if you’re on a bulkhead. So, now I stand in line, frustrated by that and all the other crap we have to go through when traveling by plane these days. Looking at you TSA.

stringere ,

I was a flight attendant with TWA, so take this as what it is: advice from 20+ years ago.

If all the overhead bins are full they will gate check your bag; tag it, send it down the external stairs of the jetway, and it will go in the belly with the other checked luggage.

Dempf ,

Yes, this is also true if you board the plane and your luggage doesn’t fit (for example, regional flights on a CRJ or ERJ). As long as it’s within the airline’s policy for carry-ons, they’ll gate check it for free.

Professorozone ,

Yeah, I thought about that, but I once saw someone bring something too large on the plane and the flight attendant told the person it would have to be checked(at cost). Maybe the guy pissed her off, I don’t know.

stringere ,

If their “carry on” does not meet the size restrictions they absolutely will gate check it at cost. That’s their fault not listening or reading bag size restrictions orbwillfully ignoring them in hopes of forcing an oversize bag into the overhead.

Ultragigagigantic ,
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CGP Grey has a good video on a better way to board planes.

TinklesMcPoo ,

I know he acknowledges the capitalistic barrier to this solution but the other issue I see most often are folks simply not being there by boarding time. These methods all assume you would have everyone ready to board in their respective groups at once. I would imagine that throwing a few folks out of order in even the modified Steffen approach could bring down the theoretical time by quote a bit.

I like Bill Burrs stance as well

SuperCub ,

I think the reason people aren’t there at their zone’s boarding time is because they only print the initial boarding time on the ticket and just wing it after that.

WanderingCat ,

For me it’s the last chance to stand for a while. If I’m going to be sitting in a cramped seat for 2+ hours then you bet I’m going to be standing before hand. So the if I’m standing then I might as well be in line.

mirisgaiss ,

came here today exactly this.

feebl ,

You can stand while the plane is flying?

WanderingCat ,

Yes but that’s not ideal for a nervous flyer, or being in a window seat. It’s easier to just stand at the airport.

feebl ,

Fair enough.

CaptPretentious ,

I didn’t used too get in line. But I’ve had a number of times someone took to much carry on (how I don’t know) and took all of the overhead space, refused to fix it, and the airline didn’t give a fuck either.

cyberpunk007 ,

This is why I do. I typically just take a small bag for under the seat and a small carry on suitcase. Some people have so much shit, usually after a long flight the last thing you want is to be the last person off the plane because your carry on is 8 rows behind you.

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