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Serpardum , to programmerhumor in Very clever...

It’s very easy to terminate vim. I just use the power button.

DNOS ,

Uh… so u guys don’t change the PC each time that’s cool I would definitely try that …

DNOS ,

Tried it’s a scam , doesn’t work

Patches , (edited )

If I could afford to change PC - I could afford real IDE

DNOS ,

Yeah that’s the problem it’s so expensive not to mention when you buy a discounted one and the vim session is already open…

Aurenkin , to programmerhumor in Gotta watch them nil pointers!

What was your first girlfriend like?

error: IndexOutOfBoundsException

QuazarOmega ,

Ah shoot, she’s actually their zeroth girlfriend

agent_flounder ,
@agent_flounder@lemmy.world avatar

I hate when I am written in Pascal

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

The best programming languages let you pick if arrays are base 0 or 1. Shout out to Option Base 1.

xmunk ,

Shout out to PHP which just don’t give a fuck $arr[‘apple’] = 5

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

PHP causes so many issues because of the fact that it uses the same syntax for both arrays and dictionaries/maps. [] (or array() in older PHP versions) always JSON encodes to [] because there’s no way to tell if it’s supposed to represent an empty array or an empty dictionary.

xmunk ,

Eh. It works just fine. I agree JSON encoding is weird but if you use it the recommended way (just use a StdClass object and throw on the fields you need) it works fine. Someone added half assed support for weird PHP arrays that usually works and is generally good enough.

dan ,
@dan@upvote.au avatar

stdClass is for objects. I’m talking about maps. I guess you could use stdClass for maps too, but that feels weird.

xmunk ,

If you read the docs for json_decode, the default behavior is to operate with stdClass - I too prefer working with associative arrays because of their power but… that kind of just reinforces how useful they are. PHP can give you the full Java class system if you want… it’s just a pain and useless in most circumstances so we all just toss around associative arrays.

QuazarOmega ,
palordrolap ,

Perl had $[ (yes, just those two characters) to allow setting of the first array index, but it's a fatal error to put anything but 0 into it now.

Of course, since Perl arrays can be negative subscripted from the last element, you can stand on your head and index the array negatively from the wrong end. -1, -2, -3 etc. Use unshift to put things on the beginning (logical "end") of what you're doing rather than the usual push. Presto, a 1-based array (up to sign, anyway).

You may wish to file this under "stupid, but it works".

People with more time / more need for something that looks professional, would probably be better off writing something that uses tie instead. (Or, yes, yes, a different language entirely, hush now.)

TurtleTourParty ,

Thanks I hate it.

But still better than mathlab not allowing 0 indexed arrays.

Prunebutt , (edited ) to memes in AI can generate memes now. This could potentially lead to a new robot-communist era.

I hate how lemmy is starting to get flooded with generative AI pick. It’s the “lol, so random!”-meme of the current age, but with even less artistic/comedic value.

Starshader OP ,

You say that because you are old. Next you will also say something like “the important think is to be young in the heart/head”.

VikingHippie ,

Speaking as an elder millenial/junior middle aged man: ouch, my back hurts!

Prunebutt , (edited )

I say that because AI is creatively bankrupt.

Risk ,

I don’t think that’s true. It’s just another tool. Using it to get a good result takes more skill, practice, and patience than using it to get an okay result.

That’s not to say it is equivalent in terms of skill required to oil paint, for example. But it really does stink of being obstinately against change for no reason other than it being change.

I imagine similar complaints were made when photoshop first started to rise in popularity and use.

Prunebutt , (edited )

I agree: it is a tool. And maybe you might at some point be able to create something worthwhile with it. But I’ve yet to see something wwrthwhile.

The main way “generative AI” is currently being used is by giving some idea some kind of form. If the original idea is just lame, or has been done to death (like a pixar poster of insert any atocricy here) : it will show.

If you think that AI is a shortcut to replace a creative idea, you will not be able to get any art from it.

You can also see that in the weird AI bro behavior, when they refuse to share their prompts: In any traditional art project people are glad to share their techniques. But AI bros realize that there’s so little effort involved that they are overly protective of their prompts so that people may not find out how low effort their “creativite” process actually is.

Risk ,

But I’ve yet to see something wwrthwhile.

So, you don’t like the art you’ve seen made with AI. That’s fine. Art is subjective; just because you don’t like a medium doesn’t mean it’s not creative. There are plenty of mediums and styles I don’t personally like either.

If you think that AI is a shortcut to replace a creative idea, you will not be able to get any art from it.

That’s not contentious, in the sense of you won’t come up with any interesting art. My toddler’s scribble on a page isn’t interesting art either, but it’s still art.

As for the ‘AI bro’ thing - I haven’t run in to this, but yes it does sound like the ones that don’t want to share their prompts are insecure. It’s very normal for most artists to share their media and techniques with their piece; most AI art I’ve seen, particularly the better more interesting stuff, the person has shared their prompts and the models they’ve used.p

Catweazle ,
@Catweazle@vivaldi.net avatar

@Risk @Prunebutt, the risk is when we lose our own capabilities and intelligence, becoming dependent on AI. This has already happened with previous technologies. Who still has the handwriting of our grandparents with the introduction of the keyboard and word processors? Who can still do simple sums mentally for purchases at the supermarket, without using a calculator? With the introduction of smartphones, our lives have become completely dependent on these gossips in practically every aspect, social as well as professional.
Seeing this evolution, I always think of the humans in the movie Wall-e as the end result of this path. It is not that AI is going to fight and subjugate humanity, it does not need to do so, since we subordinate ourselves to it voluntarily, even today we would be unable to survive a week without our technology.
It happens when we start using tools, not for what they are, but as crutches for our own inability and intelligence, instead of using them for our own development.

Risk ,

I think this is quite a hyperbolic analysis.

Yeah, good quality handwriting is less prevalent now than it has been in the past - but that’s not because of a loss of artistry, but because that mode of written communication is less important. But there are still plenty of calligraphy artists out there, and are perhaps more highly prized now than they were before.

Human creativity doesn’t stop, we just progress to new tools when the previous ones can be automated. And yet, even then, we still have people that go back to use the old tools for the simple joy of using them.

Don’t mistake delegation for subordination.

Catweazle ,
@Catweazle@vivaldi.net avatar

@Risk, i don't confuse it,but an excess of delegacion IS at the end subordination. The calligraphy is only one example of a general tendency.
Of course there are people who continue to practice it and are sought after, precisely because there are few of them. But the vast majority do not have a writing that can be defined as such and many can no longer do so without using a spell checker, moving to a poor general vocabulary.
Human beings are very comfortable having others do their work and this with new technologies is becoming more pronounced, even with AI that turns on the lights or TV on command, because the 3 steps to the switch is too much effort.

Risk ,

But by delegating stuff we free up our time for other things.

If you’re making an argument that humans are tending towards being less creative, then I’d need to see some evidence to support that assertion. Because from my perspective we get more creative the more free time we have.

irmoz , (edited )

Stop being so dramatic and conspiratorial. The pushback is because it sucks. AI can’t be genuinely creative.

Risk ,

Conspiratorial? What?

Large Language Models cannot be genuinely creative; I agree. The people using them can. Why is that disagreeable?

irmoz ,

The pushback against AI is not because artists are in a conspiracy to block progress.

Risk ,

Okay. That wasn’t what I was trying to imply at all.

irmoz ,

You might not have meant to say it but you did

Risk ,

No, I really didn’t - but I can’t exactly stop your confirmation bias.

irmoz ,

Sighhhhh

it is so tiresome being lied to when the evidence is a short scroll above

it really does stink of being obstinately against change for no reason other than it being change.

Risk ,

As I said, I can’t fix your confirmation bias.

I wasn’t pointing to a conspiracy, merely the fact that the criticism voiced so far doesn’t have any substance to it other than ‘I don’t like it’ and therefore is likely because it’s new and different.

Edit:

I just realised you may be conflating my argument here about what constitutes as ‘art’ with artists making a case they’ve been ripped off because LLMs have been trained on their work.

Those are two different topics.

irmoz ,

doesn’t have any substance to it other than ‘I don’t like it’ and therefore is likely because it’s new and different.

So, just being against progress. Like I said.

you may be conflating my argument here about what constitutes as ‘art’ with artists making a case they’ve been ripped off because LLMs have been trained on their work.

Lol no.

Risk ,

against progress

Who? Artists, generally or those upset that AI/LLMs have been taught from their work? Not what I’m implying at all, as already highlighted extensively.

People criticising AI/LLM art as ‘not art/not creative’? Yes.

If you’re not conflating my argument, then you are either being really fucking stupid or deliberately trolling. In either case, I’m done wasting my time on you.

irmoz ,

Don’t try and split hairs now, when you didn’t originally.

gravitas_deficiency ,

And so is OP, if they think this is creative.

It’s just digitized monkeys throwing digitized shit at the wall. As in, that’s pretty much exactly how ML training works.

Juno ,

That’s agist and stupid. The idea is valid or not, the person who said it is irrelevant.

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

I personally exclusively use it to generate photos of products I wish were real, and then get angry that I can’t buy them

getoffthedrugsdude ,

What’s the most recent product you’ve been wanting?

Sethayy ,

Realistic Lego human anatomy

residentmarchant ,

So cursed, just in time for Halloween

Sethayy ,

My gf actually showed me it and was raving on how we have to get it that I almost didn’t have the heart to tell her not a word on the package beyond ‘Lego’ was real

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

A retrofuture 90s inspired portable speaker dock

https://lemmy.ca/pictrs/image/c3e6e3fe-f681-4d3d-9994-876c2d442430.jpeg

getoffthedrugsdude ,

That’s actually pretty sick

PeriodicallyPedantic ,

Ikr. The phone was supposed to be the screen in the middle (docked), but I couldn’t figure out how to tell that to the AI so it kept adding the extra phone plugged in via (very odd) cables.

Sphks ,
@Sphks@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

OK. I am angry.

hunt4peas , to cat in Assassin's Kitty
VikingHippie ,

I love that the author of the super wholesome post went by the name suckashelfboi101 😄

Taybur , to memes in She helps when I cook.

My cat doesn’t care for people food, but she does paw at my arm until she gets to smell my breath when I’m eating. Our routine is for me to take a bite, open my mouth and breathe at her, and then she sniffs and walks away.

asteriskeverything ,

Ya’ll are that weird couple that low key weirds out everyone but are so perfect for each other it’s also sweet and cute.

pete_the_cat ,

Cats are hilariously weird.

kamen ,
  • Cats
  • Logic

Choose one.

kibiz0r , to memes in I did NOT have inner core!
DmMacniel , to memes in Accurate.

Way too accurate. Netflix, when it was the sole main provider, was super good. Then the other companies realised the big bucks they could get from streaming/peddling their own shit.

Thanks to this meme, I killed my netflix account. Nicotine is fine :D

SubArcticTundra ,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

It sucks when competition spoils a market

Omega_Haxors ,

The whole idea that competition is good is a total libertarian lie. Cooperation leads to the best results. It’s just impossible under capitalism.

vithigar ,

It is good, if the competing products/services are interchangeable and they need to compete on factors such as price, convenience, or reliability. For example, competing grocery stores, all of which offer by and large the same products. Or competing mechanics, all of which can perform service on your car.

Streaming services don’t do this. They have carved up the market and “compete” by making you choose which products you want more.

Imagine two grocery stores, one of which had all the ice cream, and the other had all the chocolate, and neither could carry things that the other stocked. That is what streaming services are doing.

AngryMulbear ,

Modern copyright law is essentially a state sanctioned monopoly.

Rights holders should be forced to license the content to anyone that wishes to distribute it. As it stands now, they can lock it in a vault for generations if they wanted.

SnipingNinja ,

As it stands now, they can lock it in a vault for generations if they wanted.

Like Disney used to?

TrustedChimp ,

You mean like Disney still does… they just purged 500 million dollars worth of content from Disney plus and there is no other legel way to view most of that content now untill Disney decides to wheel it back out again (content that got a physical release is obviously still available)

SnipingNinja ,

I was not aware they’re back to vaulting things

TrustedChimp ,

They didn’t explicitly say they are back vaulting things again but I wouldn’t be surprised if they put out some of the content they took down back on disney plus or home releases at some point

Omega_Haxors ,

no other legel way to view

Case law states that if media is no longer available, it’s consumption is considered preservation and is thus completely legal. Nobody can argue lost profits for something that literally isn’t even on the market. Fun fact: this is the reason why Nintendo releases their old games on the E shop for way more than what they’re worth. Once it’s up there they get to do takedown requests of every ROM on the internet.

Crotaro ,

this is the reason why Nintendo releases their old games on the E shop for way more than what they’re worth. Once it’s up there they get to do takedown requests of every ROM on the internet.

I want to be astonished and ask in disbelief if that’s really the case. But with how Nintendo treats not only piracy but content derived from their games in general (mods, tournaments and stuff), I can’t be surprised.

Do you mayhaps know why Nintendo is so hard on that front? I’ve heard that it’s “just the mentality in Japan”, but I can’t remember Sony cracking down on people like that.

Omega_Haxors ,

Nintendo is just a shit company when it comes to their business end. They act way more aggressive than they have to, for no real good reason.

nightwatch_admin ,

Competition on price sounds nice because it prevents excessive prices, but it’s also a root cause of poverty and environmental abuse. Cooperating is much better.

SubArcticTundra ,
@SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml avatar

Thank you for giving the much warranted economics lesson.

dingus ,

Ehh…it’s entirely dependent on the product. Music streaming services are actually all comparable to one another and have not suffered the same fragmentation that the TV and movie streaming services have. With music streaming services, you literally just pick whichever works for you and you can get nearly all the same content. It just doesn’t work the same for every market I guess.

dzervas ,

i can’t describe you how much joy your comment gave me. an (at least) anti-capitalism comment in a completely random post. i love it.

thanks for making my day

arrrrrgh 🏴‍☠️

Omega_Haxors ,

Cheers, matey 😉

billy_bollocks ,

Pretty sure I read they’re all losing money hand over fist, which is why they’re implementing ads and jacking up prices. Exception being Netflix.

Colour_me_triggered , to memes in As an owner of children, I approve this message

Yeah ok I’ll just fucking have my kids put down at the vet before I go on holiday! Get a fucking grip!

Mercival ,

Honestly? You should.

thorbot ,

Thanks, Satan!

oregoncom ,
@oregoncom@hexbear.net avatar

They should put soulless freaks like you down. Having empathy for literal babies is a basic requirement for a human being.

riceandbeans161 ,

don’t go on holiday if you have cum pets. You chose that when you couldn’t keep it in your pants.

Colour_me_triggered ,

You think you’re more deserving of a holiday just because you’re shooting blanks?

riceandbeans161 ,

i stay quiet and read my book and don’t annoy the entire plane/train/bus.

MrLuemasG , (edited )

You’re annoying the entirety of lemmy instead

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I’m here on lemmy, and I think he right fine. Shit, I should buy him a beer. It’s the baby’s that annoy, aaaand their entitled parents.

Colour_me_triggered ,

Do you want a medal?

JamesConeZone ,
@JamesConeZone@hexbear.net avatar

You are annoying the entire forum right now. You are outsourcing your shittiness online because you are deeply unwell and need an outlet

mnemonicmonkeys ,

You do realize you don’t have to take a plane to go on vacation, right? It won’t kill you to not take a plane for a couple of years

Hupf ,

One kind of people makes humanity not go extinct in the near future.

toxicbubble ,

humans are an overpopulated and invasive species, there are millions of human children waiting to be fostered

ArcticLynx ,

b-but muh genes

ArbitraryValue ,

Genetics isn’t destiny, but a lot of important traits are highly heritable. Consider for example the heritability of IQ. I can see why someone who considers him or herself a good specimen would want children more like him or herself that like the sort of person whose children end up needing to be adopted.

ArcticLynx ,

yeah that actually makes sense

ArbitraryValue ,

Eh, I’m mortal anyway. I don’t benefit from other people’s annoying offspring being around after I’m gone.

Colour_me_triggered ,

And they don’t benefit from your presence now, or in the future, or at any point actually.

ArbitraryValue ,

Yeah, that’s why I leave them alone and I want them to leave me alone.

autismdragon ,
@autismdragon@hexbear.net avatar

cum pets

cringe

oregoncom ,
@oregoncom@hexbear.net avatar

Just because you’re so ugly nobody would ever reproduce with you doesn’t give you excuse to whine about children all the time. Go back to r/childfree you soulless redditor.

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

Were you forced to have kids at gunpoint?

Logical solution to this is to wait until your kid grows up a little bit and stops crying for no fucking reason. You can still travel with your toddler if you really want to, but use your own car. I don’t get the reason to take a kid this young, to travel with you, since he’s not going to remember anything anyway

hihello ,

People have families lol

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

We all have families…

Colour_me_triggered ,

I live in Norway. It’s my constitutional right to have 5 weeks of paid holiday a year (excluding public holidays) whether or not I have children. Driving isn’t viable as it would take several days just to get to a ferry that leaves Norway. Crying children are a part of flying, get used to it.

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

You can have holidays in the same country that you live you know… Since you have a small child, it would be best to take care of him, instead of flying around in planes

Colour_me_triggered ,

A couple of hours in a plane is less stressful for a toddler than several days in a car seat I assure you.

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

Probably yeah, but also less stressful would be to plan your exotic seaside resort vacation in two years, when the little spawn of satan is not prone to crying for reasons classified.

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Doesn’t mean you have to fly somewhere for a simple holiday.

Colour_me_triggered ,

Yes I could drive a day and go camping in northern Scandinavia and get eaten alive by mosquitoes the size of sparrow hawks.

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Could you? Then we can find that child a better parent.

Colour_me_triggered ,

Children* they enjoy their holidays in Spain.

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

It’s a baby, baby don’t know, baby don’t care. YOU want time in Spain. Ffs

Colour_me_triggered ,

No I fucking hate the sun. If I enjoyed the beach, I wouldn’t live in Norway.

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

This broke me. You win. Lol. Best answer.

zloubida , (edited )
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

Are you forced to take a plane at gunpoint?

Logical solution to this is to use your own means of transportation in order to be sure to be alone if you don’t like children. You can still take a plane if you really want to, but use your own plane. I don’t get the reason to take public means of transportation, since there will always be other people in them anyway.

thorbot ,

Oh right I’ll just take one of my many planes that I have just fucking lying around

zloubida ,
@zloubida@lemmy.world avatar

It was an answer to Mycoolnejm, not to you ^^

Colour_me_triggered ,

You realise that some people live in places where that isn’t possible. I have to drive for about 10 hours to not be in the Arctic anymore.

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

Lol, allright let me just sit with my fucking toddler right next to you in a 6 hour flight. I coud’ve just waiter two years until he’s old enough to not cry at random shit to take him to Spain, but fuck ya’ll. I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me and my toddler

Landrin201 ,
@Landrin201@lemmy.ml avatar

90% of your profile’s comments are in this thread

Either you seriously hate children to a ridiculous degree- in which case you need to see a therapist because this shit ain’t healthy- or you’re a troll.

I’m going with troll.

MYCOOLNEJM ,
@MYCOOLNEJM@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes, because I disagree, I automatically hate children and I’m brain damaged. Very smart argument 👍. And I just started commenting, so of course all of my comments are going to be here, since I’m arguing with you all and your lame ass excusees

thorbot ,

Yes I’ll just load my kids up into the car and drive across the fucking ocean to see my family.

mnemonicmonkeys ,

It won’t kill you to not go to Norway for a couple of years

Colour_me_triggered ,

I live in Norway. But sometimes it’s nice to leave for a few weeks.

Honytawk ,

It is also nice to not be on a plane with crying kids.

Colour_me_triggered ,

So buy your own plane…

PseudoSpock ,
@PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

That would solve a lot of problems… You should get on that.

scubbo ,

Because, as we all know, the only way of travelling across the ocean is by plane.

ellie ,

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  • Honytawk ,

    It doesn’t take a month to travel by ship.

    Greta could do it in less than 2 weeks. And that was in a sailboat.

    itsJoelle ,

    Right?

    I just fly Delta cause parents can’t afford it 🤷 Problem solved.

    TheRealKuni ,

    I miss Delta. I always flew Delta, but my wife likes to be frugal.

    airlinefood ,

    Don’t be overdramatic. You’re allowed to travel but you’ve gotta accept that no one’s happy to see you.

    Lunic ,

    Well good, I accepted that long before I ever had kids!

    oregoncom ,
    @oregoncom@hexbear.net avatar

    The only people I’m not happy to see are insufferable r/childfree redditors who hate on literal children. If you hate babies there is something wrong with your brain.

    airlinefood ,

    I like kids, I don’t like sitting in a small metal box with the unavoidable sound of crying for hours though. Flying sucks enough as it is.

    Twink ,
    @Twink@hexbear.net avatar

    I’m glad you’re speaking up. This isn’t a black and white situation. Sometimes I’d travel by plane to a surgery or from one, was already in a lot of pain and sensitive and having a child scream through it all gave me panic attacks. When I’m on my best, I don’t mind but I’m disheartened by the absolute disregard people attacking those who speak up against children on planes have towards people with misophonia, whatever it may be induced by. Idk where those people get noise canceling earphones and earplugs to have the noise of children screaming non stop next to you be blocked by them.

    BlackNo1 ,

    yah please do no one wants your little shits around.

    KoboldCoterie , to memes in This is the way
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    I, for one, fully support this development.

    WhatAmLemmy ,

    While I like the idea of every poacher being neutralised, I also understand that the “poach police” may intentionally/inadvertently kill innocents with their blanket immunity; plus many poachers may be poor af hired-guns that aren’t the actual source or root cause for the market, and may not dent the trade at all… Hope I’m wrong.

    KoboldCoterie ,
    @KoboldCoterie@pawb.social avatar

    I also understand that the “poach police” may intentionally/inadvertently kill innocents with their blanket immunity;

    Is there any evidence that that has been happening? (This article is from 2017, and it mentions “more than 20” poachers being killed in 2015, but doesn’t mention any non-poachers being killed, which it seems it would have, given it’s talking about the downsides.)

    While I agree that taking the fight to the people financing the poaching, reducing the number of poachers - and providing a very clear disincentive for other “poor af” hired-guns to take up the mantle - could still help.

    Personally, I don’t think any implied sanctity of human life extends to people who are killing endangered animals for profit.

    toxicbubble ,

    American police

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,

    We don’t really have poaching here in the states though.

    lambalicious ,

    ICE says otherwise.

    pinkdrunkenelephants ,
    Aria ,

    So just out of curiosity, which one of these crimes voids “sanctity of human life”?

    • Cheating on your taxes
    • Bribing a politician
    • Taking a bribe
    • Kicking a dog
    • Eating a cow
    • Enslaving marginalised minorities for profit
    Fuckass ,
    Especially_the_lies , to memes in Can you Americans pass the test?

    ITT: People legitimately trying to name it, people saying “I’m American and I know this is fake,” and people who get the joke trying to come up with a good name.

    Etterra ,

    Hey don’t call me out like that. My response was funny.

    calabast , to programmerhumor in The Server Fell Over

    I’m gonna guess the original version of this joke said “crashed” instead of “fell over”, cause then it would actually be ambiguous enough for the premise to work.

    yogthos OP ,
    @yogthos@lemmy.ml avatar

    I use fell over to mean crashed all the time

    TechieDamien ,

    Same, I thought it was used commonly too.

    litchralee ,

    I vaguely recall a (probably apocryphal) story of an early washing machine-sized hard drive that lurched its way across the floor during a customer demo, eventually falling over once the connecting cables pulled taught.

    That said, those hard drives did indeed move themselves: catb.org/jargon/html/W/walking-drives.html

    Revan343 ,

    Some bands of old-time hackers figured out how to induce disk-accessing patterns that would do this to particular drive models and held disk-drive races.

    I love the Jargon File

    Zorsith ,
    @Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    “Fell over”, to me, implies server load balancing.

    bamboo ,

    I use it to describe a variety of things, but usually it’s related to servers not being able to handle load rather than an outright crash, but I’m not strict about it. Laos balancer failures could be it, could also just be that something was really I efficient but wasn’t noticed until it went into production.

    Chronographs ,

    “Failed over” does, I’ve never heard fell over mean anything but what’s described in the picture.

    Ephera ,

    I have heard it before, albeit tongue-in-cheek. So, like the server can be “running”, it can also trip and fall over.

    Mouselemming ,

    That’s probably fallout from the early days of this joke. After seeing this image with ‘the server crashed’, funny programmers would start saying their server “fell over” to reference that memory. Now it’s come full circle. Meanwhile those of us who are “grandma peering at the computer screen” would only say a computer has “crashed.” And wouldn’t know how to fix it beyond a couple of tries at turning it off and back on again. (Which usually does work, though!)

    Mac ,

    yeah i was thinking “down”.

    Bezier ,
    @Bezier@suppo.fi avatar

    Or a different language. To me, they’re the same word, so this pun would actually work properly.

    psycho_driver , to memes in until we meet again!

    If you think about the brutality of nature, which we are mostly isolated from, then yeah, organisms in general do have to earn their right to life through overcoming and eating other organisms.

    Cysioland ,
    @Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml avatar

    The nice thing about the society is that we don’t need to give a shit about that

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Which was the point of civilization. To isolate us from that hell.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Even in a civilization someone has to produce food so you’ll survive. Civilization doesn’t mean no one has to work.

    If you do no work but because of civilization you still have food to eat, it means someone else is working to earn your living for you.

    This bizarre meme implies work has no value, and was likely made by a wealthy university socialist that had everything paid for by their parents so doesn’t understand the value of work.

    Cowbee ,
    @Cowbee@lemmy.ml avatar

    “Damn, this argument I made up for OP really sucks! What’s even worse is the fanfiction I made up for them, woah Nelly!”

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    This meme does not state no one needs to work. It states you don’t need to earn your place among the living. You’ve already done so by virtue of being born. I think that is a noble goal for a society to uphold. Higher ideals are, of course, what separates us from the realm of animal urges. Once you begin to mix laws of the jungle back into society the point of our isolation from it is subverted. If we truly are the greatest Earth has to offer, surely we can figure so.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    You can’t eat higher ideals.

    Even Marie Antoinette wasn’t so disconnected from the peasants to say “let them eat higher ideals.”

    Someone has to work so you can survive. If you don’t want to work, society will take care of you. You’ll still be living, but you aren’t earning it, someone else is earning it for you.

    Sanctus , (edited )
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Once again, this is not saying society will take care of you and everyone will just sit on their bussies and no one will ever lift a finger. This is repealing the idea that you have to earn your stake to be considered human and alive in a world that has abstracted everything away to just getting funny paper. People will still farm and cultivate crops. There are people who want to do that now. Are you vehemently opposed to people just feeling and being accepted from birth? I for one think a society built on more welcoming foundations would see less crime and more work.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    Sure there are people that want to farm. But are there people that want to want to deal with sewage? Why do you think plumbers earn more money than other trades?

    I want to run a cafe instead of what I’m doing right now. I don’t want to be a waiter of wash dishes or anything like that. I just want to design the menus and decide on how it’s decorated. Is that the job I’ll have in a socialist utopia, or will I have to do a job I don’t want to do? What if there’s already too many cafes, or not enough people that want to be waiters or was dishes? I won’t have to do anything but I’ll still be provided for?

    In the end there will always be people doing jobs they don’t particularly want to do. Someone’s gotta unclog the sewage when the elite of the socialist society plug the pipes with the overabundance of shit they spew out.

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    How about capitalism? How many MBAs does the world need? Marketing consultants? Advertising cosultants? IT consultants? Consultant consultants? There are countless jobs that serve the machine and no other purpose that benefits society. Somebody will do the necessary jobs. There are more incentives than you realize. For instance, what if I want more than my UBI pays me? Plumbing has entered the chat. The only reason you defend this system so hard as the epitome is because nobody has experienced anything else but this. Its scary I know, but there are more ways than one to exist, and every system has its trade-offs. But our social contract between our governments in clearly broken, we are clearly strung along on the whims of shareholders and capital. Say what you will, but I think we can do better than “those people deserve to starve son, they have no jobs.”

    CooperRedArmyDog ,

    Who here is saying “No one should work” no one except maybe the most high on their own farts anarchist is saying that. The end goal of marxism is “From each According to their abilities to each according to their needs” their will be work, The farm will be ploughed. THe difrence is all will be provided for.

    SpaceCowboy ,
    @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca avatar

    And if I were to decide that I didn’t want to work according to my ability, I would still be provided for?

    flashgnash ,

    In no capitalist society that I know of will you be executed for not working - you have a right to life

    What you don’t have the right to is someone else to provide for you if you don’t give anything back

    That said I’m fairly sure with the amount of automation we have everyone should need to put in a whole lot less work than they do to keep society afloat

    exocrinous ,

    What you don’t have the right to is someone else to provide for you if you don’t give anything back

    Yes you do. Lots of people are on disability benefits, unemployment, a pension, or are literal children. And those programs should be expanded to cover everyone who doesn’t work, not just those who can justify their existence to a government form.

    flashgnash ,

    In the case of someone who can’t work for one reason or another there’s obviously an exception because that’s not something they can help

    Children do contribute to society by getting an education and having a childhood to develop into well adjusted adults who contribute later on,

    Unemployment benefits presumably are for people actively searching for a job

    The elderly have already contributed more than their fair share raising their children

    Using the phrasing people who don’t work implies including people who are able but just don’t want to

    exocrinous ,

    There’s nobody like that. You’re talking about imaginary people. All human beings have a natural drive to do useful work.

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    What are you saying? That you wouldn’t give anything back if not for the threat of homelessness and starvation? I don’t need a threat to make the world a better place.

    flashgnash ,

    I’m sure I’d give something back but I’m also sure most of it wouldn’t be of much use to anyone else, I’d be working on stuff like mods, niche tools for myself that probably 3 people on earth would find useful, and stupid ideas for fun like some streamers get to

    Sanctus ,
    @Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

    Listen, I don’t think it’d be as disasterous for anyone with a passion. The people who would be fucked and have to adjust are the ones whose only goal is get money. Imo thats not a healthy way to be a human as it usually has a price tag of everyone else. Theres constant suffering every day and most of it is in the name of profits. Shit, my boss acts like it’d murder him to get me 10k more a year so I am not below the american median when in reality the company wouldn’t even count that as pocket change, I see the revenue and expenses every day. The sociopaths control and benefit from this system and you defend it. Its like a strange stockholm syndrome.

    flashgnash , (edited )

    Passions don’t necessary line up with something that’s beneficial to society is my point.

    Absolutely the distribution of wealth at the moment is far from fair and I wish we could fix that, but I still think short of everything being automated even in a utopia where we do everything perfectly as a society people still have to do jobs they don’t want to because there are jobs noone wants to do that need doing

    I highly doubt anyone has a passion for working in the service industry, cleaning up the messes kids make at school or collecting people’s rubbish but they’re jobs that need doing and people do them because they’re compensated for them

    LillyPip ,

    Less than two steps between that and eugenics, and one step between eugenics and genocide. We’ve seen and documented that. It’s a logical but sociopathic mentality.

    Conversely, when we realise that we’re stronger together and act empathetically as a society, every one of us and all of society benefits. When we care for the least of us, crime goes down and we find geniuses who improve life for us all, who would otherwise die in anonymous poverty.

    Living like barbarous animals – not rising above the ‘brutality of nature’, as you said – helps sociopaths who take advantage of our better nature to enrich themselves. Indeed, if we structure our society around that, as we have done lately, our society will devolve around the lowest common denominator (people like Musk or Trump).

    We can and must do better than that.

    exocrinous ,

    Your comment would have hit much harder as a rejection of cruelty and advocacy for kindness if you haven’t thrown sociopaths under the bus. Most sociopaths are poor people, and they’re all disabled.

    De_Narm , to memes in Religious Nationalism is brainrot.
    Tetsuo ,

    That but grabbing both legs.

    Jumping very high beforehand is recommended.

    kryptonianCodeMonkey ,

    squirms in discomfort

    gravitas_deficiency ,

    You just gotta have faith that you won’t fall and then you should probably be ok 👍

    Agent641 ,

    Over gravel or concrete?

    Tetsuo ,

    Why not both ?

    I’m sure a thin layer of gravel will soften the landing.

    Agent641 ,

    Bliss

    SirQuackTheDuck ,

    Nah, you’ve seen NPCs do this.

    It sounds like this: youtu.be/_GGfz-o5khc

    saltesc ,

    Maybe this?

    https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ac7fb019-b246-4cdc-9f95-9186ac03bb08.jpeg

    I know most people know this as a kneel, but one leg is standing. Just gotta somehow get more than 50% of your weight on the standing leg, thus technically resting the back knee, and this would be kneeling, while standing.

    Hubi ,

    It’s only half a kneel, so let’s just call it eel.

    PointyDorito ,
    @PointyDorito@lemmy.world avatar
    match , to memes in No regret.
    @match@pawb.social avatar

    Imagine. Three whole years without pooping.

    Imgonnatrythis ,

    Huh? Pooping is pretty much all I do whilst on Lemmy.

    po_tay_toes ,
    @po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

    Oh. I have it the other way around, Lemmy is pretty much all I do when I’m pooping.

    How do you… Browse Lemmy from your workstation or the couch?

    GluWu ,

    Diamonds. Diamonds in my butthole.

    Lucidlethargy ,

    Little by little, the value grows. Reddit may go IPO, but we go IPOO!

    Profits, baby!

    po_tay_toes ,
    @po_tay_toes@lemmy.sambands.net avatar

    I approve of this shitposting.

    Kna , to asklemmy in whys my hotel light glowing over my toilet - no other light does this

    It’s an emergency light. If there’s a power cut/fire this light will come on so you can see. It’s battery powered and the green light means it’s working.

    Source: I have dozens of these in my building.

    intensely_human ,

    They do exist!

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