It’s none of those. General Dynamics produces the humble 155mm artillery shell. It’s not flashy but artillery has killed more people than any other weapon in modern warfare.
I wonder if they would still hold that opinion if they were locked out of a game they paid $70 for, while the ones that got it for “free” can play it without any restrictions. Piracy is just as much a service issue as it is a money issue.
They already are throwing punches because they noticed people being less gullible than them. I’m guessing this would result in a “double down”, like “The developers wouldn’t have to kill this game if the pirates would have bought it.”
I wasn’t referring to games being shut down. I was referring to how denuvo stops you from playing the game if it has issues phoning home for whatever reason. My hatred for denuvo began when it locked me out of monster hunter for 24 hours the one time I wanted to come back to playing it.
Yeah, people who have experienced it understand that you don’t “try” gaslighting. People who do it are just constantly doing it, usually without even needing to try - it’s just their natural state to counter the things other people say. It works not by making someone believe a lie, but by wearing them down slowly, showing such confidence in something that the victim sees as being so clearly incorrect that they can’t help but think that maybe they’re the problem.
Nailed it. Had best friends and exes that are like this. Took some therapy to realize the abuse that I endured and internalized. Still work on avoiding these types of relationships, they are gravitational.
Yeah, it’s often unsuccessful. I think the more common success is getting someone to do something in reaction, like…
“You never do xyz”
“I always do xyz.” And now does it more for the other person to notice or to prove a point.
Also people bringing in ad populum, preying on social insecurities, I’d say is quite common too. “People think this of you” stuff by people close enough to them to be a valid source.
Anyway, if you want to see bad examples of gaslighting attempts—and a myriad of other budget grade colloquialisms and common fallacies—you’re in the right place 👍
Self reflection is important! It is good to ASK yourself these questions, and ask others even. It is not good to ruminate on the questions or doubt yourself because of lack of confidence. And if your answer is always that you were wrong… idk maybe seek therapy. Sounds like a trait of a chronic asshole or a chronic doormat.
Have you spent your entire life raised to put more weight in others’ comfort, opinions, achievements than your own?
It’s REALLY easy to gaslight someone. Congratulations, you’re not a predator who seeks out/recognizes these qualities in someone for you to take advantage of.
It IS common. It exists in many forms of abusive relationships. The fucking problem is that the internet is stupid as fuck and doesn’t understand what gaslighting is. If you start to question your intelligence, memory, etc because your partner is always contradicting you, just them, yeah that’s gaslighting. Disagreeing or the person is being a jerk and saying those lines doesn’t mean “you’re being gaslit” it’s a process and state of mind and being. You can be gaslit to believe your father never spent months painting himself blue trying to get into the blue man group, but that’s if you are convinced! Someone telling you that your dad never blue himself trying to convince you does NOT mean you were gaslit.
Also lying isn’t gaslighting. The point is someone questioning or changing their reality.
Sorry for the rant. I’m very passionate about abuse awareness and can’t self edit so well.
No, honestly it’s actually pretty hard to actually gaslight someone. I know you think you see it in abusive relationships, but I really think your just misremembering honest mistakes as gaslighting. I mean you’ve made mistakes like that before in the past remember? So yeah, no big deal, just chalk it up to stress. And you trust me right? You know I would never lie to you.
Can confirm, I used to have a partner that was conditioned to accept gaslighting by their narcissistic father. They had a terrible memory for his abuse. Like he’d say these flagrantly horrible things, and I’d try to talk to them about it later and half the time they just… wouldn’t remember it.
It was really easy to accidentally railroad them too. Like I had to learn to be hyper aware of anything I said that might unconsciously contradict what they wanted, because they would just self-edit to remove the contradiction.
It’s what ended the relationship really, because even though they didn’t always consciously remember the abuse, they did expect it, and it was impossible to have a conversation about a difficult issue without them perceiving abuse and sidestepping it. The conversation would go in circles. When I got good enough at anticipating the ways they would sidestep topics, they had another strategy - just dissociate and blank out, so I’m left standing there going, “Hello? Can you hear me?”
Gaslighting is real, and it does serious damage to people.
15 games for $70 are enough to save $1000, which is definitely enough for a good gaming PC. After buying a PS5 and the cheapest PS Plus subscription, paid yearly (cause that’s the cheapest option per month) for a little more than 8 years, you’re also at $1000. With the most expensive PS Plus option it would only take a little more than 4 years.
I love this anology so much. It’s something everyone can relate to. It’s something so incredibly low and despised that you can’t understand why it exists, but it’s also so very common.
Wrong, I was that kid and I hate denuvo just like everybody else.
Also I don’t think it works as an analogy, the kid reminding the teacher about homework does it because he likes school, and learning, he does it for himself and everybody else, he never imagine other kids would not like it. This guy doesn’t do this for himself or others, he does this out of spite of others, to punish people, he doesn’t gain anything.
I beg to differ. We made pretty sure that kid had absolutely no doubt that we did not want homework. If it was different for you, there must have been something huge at that school keeping you from getting a whooping every other day.
That’s what the commentor thinks too, he imagines all the good people who want a fair and sane world will cheer him on and the nasty criminals to slink off Into the night mubling how they’d have got away with it if it weren’t for that nobel hero saving the day for the good capitalist folk and their billionaire corporations.
Why would they ? I was that kid and I still upvoted his comment, I don’t use downvote as a disagree/punish button, I only use it for agressive/uninteresting comment. I think we should upvote any comment that create interesting discussion, even if we disagree with the core message.
Huh, so I looked up the top 100 arms manufacturers in the world. 41% of them are the from the US, with the entire top 5 being from the US. The next biggest are china with 8%, and the UK with 7%.
Development of games requires resources. More resources trends with better games (coin flip). If every player pays, the game development gets the best possible quality. And artists get to keep their electricity bill paid for the week.
Denuvo argues that their product guarantees the most resource extraction possible. This is debatable, and I personally lean on the side that it’s not as effective for revenue collection as advertised.
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