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NoIWontPickAName , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

I thought this was common knowledge

lurch ,

The forgotten wisdom of Cotton Eye Joe

ramble81 ,

Where did you come from, where did you go…

John_McMurray ,

A “cotton eye joe” is forgotten slang for a blue eyed black man, btw.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Obvious slang is obvious.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Kids out here learning the basics of life on social media.

Kids, remember the vast majority of mortgage payments are in interest alone. Also “mortgage” means “death contract”.
And beer before liquor, never been sicker.

Lost_My_Mind ,

“Kids out here learning the basics of life on social media.”

Well, they gotta learn SOMEWHERE! We certainly have dismantled public education to be less of a school and more of a free daycare.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I don’t think the etymology of redneck is part of any school curriculum. OP is just one of today’s 10,000.

homesweethomeMrL ,

blows party noisemaker

thedirtyknapkin ,

idk, i learned that shit on the playground. does that count as curriculum?

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

i think the bigger thing here is how broke teens and young adults don’t have many places else to hang out and do this in person.

Spiralvortexisalie ,

Yeah, I feel most people my age remember things like $1 or less beers and cheap bar food like 25 cent chicken wings? And just generally being able to hang out with couch change, like look we pooled $10 we can go out. The youth now have $12 cocktails and $7 french fries at the sketchy af “dive bar”, $20 drinks and $20 entrees if they dare step into a real place or heaven forbid an applebees.

StitchIsABitch ,

Well, it’s also interesting for non native speakers who never thought about it, or just didn’t make the connection. I always assumed that was the reason for the term, but it’s nice to have confirmation.

umbrella , (edited )
@umbrella@lemmy.ml avatar

honestly its less about mixing and more about the quantity you drink. at the end alcohol is alcohol, its just that the prior consumption of it makes you more likely to get overconfident and take things too far.

anyway, its one those you have to live to learn what your limits are, so the point is moot anyway. finding the sweet spot and managing to stay there takes a bit of experience.

dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Liquor before beer, we’re in the clear, so let’s fuckin party.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/53d264f5-75d8-40e8-9987-329ef099151c.png

Confused_Emus ,

Right? I don’t think anyone ever even told me that was the origin, it just sort of made sense intuitively.

owsei ,
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blindbunny ,

Love that one

ghost_towels ,

I have this printed out in my classroom. I teach adults at a trade school and I feel it’s especially important for all adults to know it’s ok to learn new things.

SlothMama ,

Yeah, I thought everyone kinda intuitively understood this because redneck and farmer used to be synonymous.

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I live in a part of America where it’s repeated constantly to school kids. Also, that’s not actually the origin; the red necks were militant unionists who fought for collective bargaining rights in the Coal Wars, the part of American history that never gets taught.

Confused_Emus ,

Other sources were already posted in the comments showing that “redneck” referring to farmers predates its usage to refer to coal miners/communists. Definitely agree there’s a lot of stuff conveniently left out of our history books, though.

northendtrooper , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

I read somewhere that the red neck part came from the red clay/dirt in the south. Where the backwoodsman usually had their neck covered by the dust. Hence redneck.

bblkargonaut , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.

Wait until they learn the Spanish word for black, or worse Latin.

dariusj18 ,

Woke mafia coming for your beans!

/s

bitwaba ,

Frijole freedom ain’t free!

menemen , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
@menemen@lemmy.world avatar

Imo Greensoeeves mostly endured because it can be perfectly whistled by everyone and still be played by professional musicians in a way that awes the audience.

This will probably not be th reason why current songs will stay arround. If society doesn’t break down, I assume that every popular melody, be it from the US, China or Lebanon, will stay around and get reused every ~30 years to grab some quick money.

Silentiea ,
@Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

This MF: Greensleeves can be perfectly whistled by everyone

Me: can’t even whistle Mary has a little lamb

ogmios , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.
@ogmios@sh.itjust.works avatar

The entire reason it became an insult was because of wealthy urbanites disparaging the working class.

FinalRemix ,

Look how PaLe I aM! laughs foppishly

Crackhappy ,
@Crackhappy@lemmy.world avatar

Downright ghostly, my dear.

Lost_My_Mind ,

You just reminded me of that news blooper.

“I so pale…” “you’re on…” first news reporter starts the news report as if nothing happened, while the second one stiffles giggles

I swear they both give of a Pam Beasley vibe. So two Pams, and they have a Pam/Jim vibe with each other, and one is “so pale”.

downpunxx ,

the reason it remained that way is because they're fucking racists (mostly)

kbal ,
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Whatever you call the kind of bigotry your comment represents it's no better. Thank you for reminding us all that it's still around.

grue ,

Being “bigoted” against racists is infinitely better than being racist. Moral-relativist false equivalences can fuck all the way off.

kbal ,
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I am talking about being bigoted against "rednecks" who are mostly no more racist than everyone else. I grew up in redneck territory and support those who reclaim it as a label of pride.

edgemaster72 ,
@edgemaster72@lemmy.world avatar

Interesting, I read that comment as referring to the wealthy urbanites as mostly racist

kbal ,
@kbal@fedia.io avatar

Doesn't seem likely to me, but it's a good thought.

Texas_Hangover ,

Do they call you downpunxx because you go down on every swinging dick within half a mile?

NikkiDimes ,

Found the redneck, guys

Duamerthrax ,

You think the rich isn’t? Mostly Classist, but there’s quite a few Racists too.

phoneymouse ,

Did you know the invention of lawns was also a way to flaunt that you were wealthy enough to have unfarmed land?

AnUnusualRelic ,
@AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world avatar

And to pay an army of people to take care of the stupid lawn.

azertyfun ,

Uh, they originally weren’t paid. They were paid for.

scytale ,

I hate lawns so much, but there’s no other option unless you go for a townhouse/condo, which are more expensive in my area because of the great location. Why would anyone want to use and pay for extra water, then mow and trim every other week, for a patch of grass that doesn’t provide any benefit as a plant.

PlantDadManGuy ,

You ever try to play catch with a football on a “natural cactus desert landscape yard”?

rf_ , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

7 nation army by the white stripes. It gets played after a goal is scored in football stadiums across the world.

baatliwala ,

Don’t forget Freed from Desire

CanadaPlus ,

Yeah, choosing something that will end up in the background of a lot of archives and memories is probably as good a strategy as any.

ouRKaoS ,

I have a feeling that this will be one that everyone knows, but doesn’t know the title of, like Power House by Raymond Scott.

CanadaPlus ,

Link.

GeneralEmergency ,

Sweet Caroline is getting that way for Football. Especially now that the English nicked it from us

SpruceBringsteen ,

Not even after goals. It’s like the wave, you can start it up at most sporting events with the help of four other people.

Venator ,

We will rock you by Queen another contender for similar reasons.

feedum_sneedson , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

Creep by Radiohead, imagine how much that would annoy Thom Yorke.

Venator ,

Probably helps to be featured or mentioned in other notable media, as greensleaves is mentioned in Shakespeare, and creep is part of the fight club soundtrack, so it has that going for it I guess 😅

Tikiporch , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

You won’t like the answer, but I’ll tell you anyway.

It’s The Macarena, by Los Del Rio.

pyre ,

i don’t think so considering your the first and the only one who has even mentioned the song in the last 65 years.

Tikiporch ,

Unfortunately, that’s entirely untrue. I don’t think you’ve put any effort into this exercise at all.

PeterLossGeorgeWall , (edited ) to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?

I don’t know what it is but I hear it at sports stadiums. Duh duh duh duh- duh duh duh-duh It repeats

Edit: I’ve just found out it’s called papas got a brand new pigbag.

mindbleach , (edited )

“Seven Nation Army” by The White Stripes.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I know it’s not the song that you’re saying but I read that in Suzanne Vega - Tom’s diner tone

lolcatnip ,

There’s a surprisingly good cover of it by Britney Spears.

PeterLossGeorgeWall ,

There is a better cover by AnnenMayKantereit, imo.

kholby ,
delirious_owl , to til in TIL the term Redneck likely originated from the sunburned red neck of those working in fields.
@delirious_owl@discuss.online avatar

Yes, the south was a predominantly agrarian economy.

prettybunnys , to til in TIL that Chironomia is the art of using gesticulations or hand gestures to good effect in traditional rhetoric or oratory.
klemptor , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
@klemptor@startrek.website avatar

Bohemian Rhapsody

ghost_of_faso2 , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
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merzbow

DrBob , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
@DrBob@lemmy.ca avatar

Happy Birthday has the kind of universal recognition you’d be looking for. Maybe in 300 years there’ll be a lyrical shift towards something more interesting. I know multiple versions of Greensleeves. The Cuckoo is the other song that I can think of with a long history. The wiki article doesn’t fully capture it. I’ll stick something in here later.https://…wikipedia.org/…/The_Cuckoo_(song)

blackbrook ,

Happy Birthday owes it’s place to function. I don’t think anybody actually enjoys it as music.

taiyang ,

My 2 year old begs to differ!

alyth ,

You just dug up the rap song Happy Birthday by Flipsyde ft. Piper from the depths of my memory after it had been buried for 14 years.

Wahots , to asklemmy in Greensleeves is almost 500 years old. I'm sure there were other very popular songs when it came out, but Greensleeves had to staying power to still be here. What do you think is today's Greensleeves?
@Wahots@pawb.social avatar

It’s not new, but this tune will keep being reused for a billion years. It’s got religious adaptations, too, providing incredible staying power. It will probably be used for many more years, as it’s one of those “golden” tunes that people will never quite forget.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Mountain_Thyme

If you went to Mass, you have probably heard it. Here’s a modern, secular cover of it:

youtu.be/LFw81n_nD1s

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