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dezmd ,
@dezmd@lemmy.world avatar

Ok but where’s the poop knife?

Varyk OP ,

Where else?

on the poop knife peg.

The ol pkp.

darkpanda ,

Which raises the question of what the difference is between the sink poop knife and the toilet poop knife?

Senseless ,

Instructions unclear, plunger stuck on the ceiling, shit water all over my feet and on the walls.

Varyk OP ,

No, you got it.

That all sounds correct.

BigBananaDealer ,
@BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee avatar

plunger room of death

Skates ,

Does this really qualify as a diagram?

Varyk OP ,

i wondered the same thing!

i checked dictionaries and i think it does as far as the flange comparison is diagrammed to illustrate the technical differences in design.

what do you suggest?

Winged_Hussar ,
@Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world avatar

Good post - needed it about a week ago 😂

Moved into a new place with high efficiency toilets and only had our old plunger. Spent multiple hours trying to clear it. I had no idea that these HE toilets are:

1.) More prone to clogs, need pipe maintenance

2.) Elongated and don’t work well with a normal plunger

Nearly called a plumber but on a final try picked up a BeeHive plunger at the hardware store.

Took a few attempts, but got it situated correctly and fixed the clog.

Varyk OP ,

Haha dang, I’m glad you got it worked out.

Until I learned the difference, I’d slosh around in there with a normal plunger only after pouring lots of hot water in, which usually works great.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s important to have the right-size flange for each hole, yes.

stoly ,

This is true for sure. You can definitely use either in either situation if you have to.

Varyk OP ,

not at all effectively.

flanged plungers typically dont fit sink drains and will deform upon compression, and sink plungers dont create enough of a vacuum seal in the toilet outtake to be of much use without a lot of unnecessary effort and mess.

stoly ,

True but you can make it work if you have no choice.

Varyk OP ,

in situations where the clog is mild, sure.

If the clog is severe, then you’ll make little and often no headway using a flanged plunger on a sink drain or a sink plunger on a toilet, no matter how long and frantically you thrust away and splash about.

the flanged plunger isn’t rigid enough to create the necessary vacuum or pressure in a sink and the sink plunger doesn’t create a tight enough seal to create the necessary pressure in a toilet unless the clog is mild in the first place.

Mouselemming ,

My new toilet doesn’t fit either of the above shapes, but a “Beehive” plunger works great.

www.korky.com/parts/…/beehive-max-toilet-plunger

The toilet also flushed really well and hasn’t gotten plugged up even once yet, but I made sure to have one that would work as soon as the toilet was ready to use.

Varyk OP ,

What’s different between the beehive flange and the toilet plunger flange? they look the same.

or perhaps I should ask what shape is your toilet?

Wizard_Pope ,
@Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world avatar

I now just imagine them having a hexagonal toilet.

Varyk OP ,

Hahaha, this must be it.

Winged_Hussar ,
@Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world avatar

(USA) - I had the same issue as the user above due to a high efficiency toilet. The opening is more rectangular/ elongated than a normal toilet’s circular opening.

Mouselemming ,

Here’s the toilet, though the pics aren’t helpful.

www.build.com/product/summary/618486

The exit hole is recessed backwards and squareish, with a wide channel. The flange doesn’t sit properly inside it, and the circumference of the bell is too small. With the beehive the circumference is wider, and it just sort of smothers the whole area, and pumps the water through its center hole, which has nowhere to go but into the exit. Like, it’s not anything precise, it would probably work great in a “normal” toilet just as well because it just fills whatever space there is.

stoly ,

Why did a regular one not fit?

Mouselemming , (edited )

Basically, it’s shaped weird and won’t make a seal. It’s a WaterSense toilet that flushes very efficiently with 1.28 gallons, with an unusual configuration of input/output under the water. Almost like a channel from front(ish) to back. If you try to use a plunger like those pictured, part of the channel isn’t covered, so you just push water back out into the bowl. Good thing I was trying it with a clean new toilet! The wide deep beehive shape lays rubber all into the space, pushing the water down into the exit hole.

jewbacca117 ,

I’ll keep that in mind next time I poop in the sink.

Varyk OP ,

And the bidet’s right there.

Good thinking.

idunnololz ,
@idunnololz@lemmy.world avatar

Damn and my kitchen faucet comes with a “power wash” mode. I can’t wait to blast boiling hot water up my butthole. 🤤

Varyk OP ,

a blistering cleanse

frosch ,

It would literally have cost you nothing not to write that sentence down… but here we are

Dicska ,

And the sink strainer is there to save and repurpose the corn.

Varyk OP ,

Sustainable living.

Psythik ,

Which brings up a good point; why would anyone need a plunger for a sink? If it gets clogged, nothing will help you short of a drain snake. And if your kitchen sink is getting clogged, it’s time to invest in a garbage disposal.

Soggy ,

Plungers certainly do help with sinks. Loosens up a partial clog easily in my experience.

monogram ,

Especially in combination with soda, vinegar and hot water.

Hagdos ,

Soda and vinegar is an odd combination. Soda is a base, making water alkali. Vinegar is an acid, making water acidic. Together, they make water neutral again, with a lot of pretty bubbles.

Either one can work really well depending on the stuff you need to get rid of. But adding one to the other just weakens it.

Pinklink ,

Mixing them together causes an exothermic reaction that releases a lot of CO2. Both the heat and the releasing of gas bubbles can also help to break up things. Also it’s unlikely that all will mix with all, so you get some pockets of basic and some pockets of alkaline, who knows what you’re trying to break up but some of either might help. The method they learned is kind of throwing everything at it cus something will work. You aren’t wrong, both methods have validity

Hagdos ,

Hmm, it seems to me most of those bubbles will happen not where you need them. Maybe if you throw in the base first and the acid later (or the other way around)

Bytemeister ,

And the exothermic reaction is really weak. Barely gets warm.

NormalPerson ,

I do this for a living. If you really wanna save yourself some money, depending on your plumbing(usually PVC, older houses might have cast iron), just put a bit of a cleaning agent and run hot water into your drain for 10-20 minutes weekly. The hot water alone every week will do more for your pipes in the long run.

If you’re doing this regularly you won’t have to run the water as long, maybe 5 minutes weekly. This helps to dissolve build up from stuff like grease and soap scum which catches other food debris and leads to clogs. Preventive maintenance is best, spend a little time and money now to save a lot of time and money later.

Jentu ,

Mix in some red food coloring and you’ve got yourself a good time

monogram ,

Especially when it regurgitates back up in your other sink mixed with hair and grime

AA5B ,

So weird. It always seems to pump air through the overflow and do no good. By the time you figure out how to plug the overflow, you might as well have taken off the trap and emptied it in the trash …… especially with PVC traps where it all just comes apart without tools

Lyrl ,

Many sinks do not have overflow drains.

Soggy ,

I just put my hand over the hole, takes two seconds. And I don’t have to clear out under the sink and get a bucket. (And it’s only very rarely necessary)

gnu ,

I’ve found a plunger useful for a sink occasionally, a bit of back and forth plunging can loosen up a hairball or break a layer of fat/soap scum. On the other hand I’ve never needed to use a plunger on a toilet - I don’t know how much of this is exaggeration on the internet but Australian toilets don’t seem to have anywhere near the amount of issues the American designs do.

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

I guess you get less shit smeared on the top.

Brunbrun6766 ,
@Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world avatar

Someone watches reddit stories on smosh

Varyk OP ,

Sorry, not this guy. I’ve never seen smosh.

Adderbox76 ,

This little bad boy here has changed my life.

www.isicanadainc.com/product/one-second-plumber/

Varyk OP ,

Haha, that commercial is very funny, but it actually works?

is it shooting compressed air?

it has a 12 shot magazine?

I don’t quite understand what it is.

Adderbox76 ,

It’s essentially a handheld air cannon. The kit comes with a handle and a suction that covers the toilet hole or whatever. You press down and yeah…it’s basically a air-gun shot to the clog.

And yeah. It works great. Not always on the first blast. But I’ve never had it fail me.

Varyk OP ,

awesome, good to know about.

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

I refuse to acknowledge someone is plunging enough to have their life changed by a plunger. Unless you’re using that thing to do whipits.

Adderbox76 ,

Ha ha. No no. I’m pretty good. No problems with the old downstairs plumbing. But it’s not just for toilets. It’s for bathtub sinks clogged with hair. Kitchen sinks, etc… It’s just handy to have around the house. I even used it once to blow the dust out of my dryer vent.

jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That site has to be one of the poorest editing and proofreading jobs I’ve ever seen.

Nusm ,
@Nusm@yall.theatl.social avatar

Why has no one mentioned this style? I’ve had one for years, and there’s never been a clog it couldn’t fix.

https://yall.theatl.social/pictrs/image/8883b7ac-4dbf-4033-9430-012bc8bf355f.jpeg

Varyk OP ,

They’re too Giger.

the regular toilet plungers also have a flange and work every time without implanting xenomorphs in your chest cavity.

Golfnbrew ,

I agree, although the plastic will crack /split along one of the folds eventually, rendering it unusable

Still, that style is my goto

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

That’s totally a sex toy.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Why do you have a man-portable Tesla Coil as a plunger?

pedz ,

They sell these in dollar stores here.

I didn’t have to unclog a sink for years and didn’t own a plunger. I was looking for a “classic one” but they only had these and I wasn’t sure. I gave it a try anyway and to my surprise, it was very efficient.

Never tried on a toilet and I suspect it would work fine too, but I tried it on my bathtub drain and unfortunately it fails to make a seal.

dditty ,
NineMileTower ,

I use a bidet and that cuts down on TP usage, but sometimes you get a big ol’ honker of a log ploppin’ out and that sucker just says, “Not today.” That’s when the trusty turd wrangler is your best friend.

One time I was at my mother-in-laws and clogged that some bitch. I couldn’t find a plunger. Turns out my sister-in-law took it when she went away to college, because she was too scared to buy one. I tried to text my wife, but I had no service. So I left it there and went and told my wife. My mother-in-law took a golf cart to the neighbor’s house and explained the situation and they let her borrow theirs. Meanwhile, I’m fucking mortified that the neighbors now think I have fiber intake issues.

Always keep a plunger in a bathroom with a toilet.

Varyk OP ,

Bidet is the way.

There’s a lot of intriguing family history in your story. SIL scared to buy a plunger. MIL took a golf cart. Interesting group.

NineMileTower ,

Bro, that ain’t the half of it. My father-in-law built an entire western town in his backyard and when he was done he built a Jurassic Park with dinosaurs essentially made of trash. Here is a shitty picture of the saloon with a bar in it. I’ll see if I can find some of the dinosaur pics too. https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/5bb5868a-c2aa-4555-93e5-2921d2ac0b6f.jpeg

Varyk OP , (edited )

Yes PLEASE!

Sounds like you married right.

The signs and storefronts are amazing.

I see the inside of the saloon, is the general store a whole room are just the storefront?

that is amazing, give him my maddest of props.

NineMileTower ,

Here’s a video of Western World. youtu.be/ug2U5PUSwA4

Here’s another one of his annual go cart track. youtu.be/E5ljFgmQ0MQ

I’ll have to find the Jurassic Park videos.

Varyk OP ,

his annual go-kart track…I knew I wanted land when I eventually buy a house, but I wasn’t sure what I wanted it for.

now I have a lot of valuable inspiration.

please pass on my sincere congratulations and respect, Western World and the go-karts are awesome.

And yes, I’m ready to see the trash dinosaurs.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah just casually dropping in there that his dad sets up a go-cart track for the family get-together in the garden, sure.

Varyk OP ,

Im appreciative he did, i need to know eccentric wackadoos that build scrap dinos and saloons are around.

NineMileTower ,

I’m bored as shit at work.

NineMileTower ,
Varyk OP ,

Oh man!

I didn’t realize they were fully fleshed out dinosaurs!

they look great!

I actually saw some scrap dinosaurs in Arizona, but they’re still metal and skeleton, no skin or color on them.

wow and the skin is even pebbled. that is so cool.

thank you for getting back to me and sharing those pictures. wow! those are huge dinos too

NineMileTower ,

Glad you enjoyed. Lol

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

Damn that’s some impressive stuff! :o

Vespair ,

I love this so fucking much. Eccentric people are the best.

Also somebody please invite this old dude to play D&D

NineMileTower ,

He would very much rather smoke cigarettes and drink Bud Light in the yard.

Strawberry ,

damn that’s cool

otter ,

I’d love to read more of these stories, if you have time to share them. Maybe !casualconversation?

NineMileTower ,

Ok, I’ll join.

jaybone ,

He can do all that but not have a toilet that gets clogged so frequently his daughter is stealing plungers out of anxiety?

NineMileTower ,

I’m not even joking, they got divorced last week.

biokernel ,

Proclaim the Gospel of W. C. Jesus!

HeyJoe ,

That’s what the poop knife is for.

jaybone ,

I try to get out… BUT THEY KEEP PULLING ME BACK IN!

Sneptaur ,
@Sneptaur@pawb.social avatar

Thanks for this story. I read it while taking a shit

TayamExplorer ,

Hey I have this very specific problem whenever I use this thin-USE BIDETS, USE BIDETS OR YOU WILL REGRET IT FOREVER, IT USES LESS TOILET PAPER AND WHY AREN’T YOU USING THEM YET THEY’RE PERFECT AND GREAT AND…

How you sound right now.

NineMileTower ,

Say that to my face. I fuggin’ dare you, dude.

TayamExplorer ,

Doesn’t surprise me that I’m talking to a literal mongoloid Neanderthal whose two neurons only have one function and that’s to bash against each other.

Alinor ,

Am I the only one who’s never used a plunger (and never needed to)?

Varyk OP ,

You elfin anomaly.

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

Some us don’t poop in the woods every day.

oce ,
@oce@jlai.lu avatar

Nope, same and never heard others talking about it in real life. I’m guessing there is some design issues in the American toilets that is not a problem in Europe. Or it’s the large portions of low quality food?

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

American plumbing is shit (pun intended) compared to Europe’s. Source: I lived in Germany for 10 years and never once needed a plunger, while I’ve needed them regularly in the US.

Damage ,

Even with the weird “shit shelf” toilets?

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Yup, and I had shit shelf toilets pretty much the whole time since it was the 80s and 90s. They probably would have been harder to plunge, so good thing they never needed it!

Kusimulkku ,

The comments do seem to hint at this being a big problem in the US.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Indeed, it was very noticeable to me when I moved back here and had to actually consider how much toilet paper there was before flushing. German toilets took whatever I put in there!

CarbonatedPastaSauce ,

Of course you are. Every other human on the planet is issued a plunger at birth. What’s wrong with you?

guy ,
@guy@lemmy.world avatar

Are you American though? Here in the UK, nobody really owns a plunger and they don’t need to, the plumbing is different, it doesn’t clog. Do need to own a toilet brush though, to wipe off the skidmarks, which is more rare in the US.

Mr_Blott ,

It’s not just the UK that nobody needs a plunger, it’s every modern country except the US. Their plumbing is a century out of date and they eat ultra-processed junk

A recipe for dis-ass-ter

Metz ,

Plungers are extremely common in germany. To be precise i can’t remember ever being in a bathroom without one.

Mr_Blott ,

Yeah that’s why I specified modern countries, Klaus 😂

Damage ,

It’s kinda weird that the country where everything is MOOOAR they don’t have gigantic shit pipes

Alinor ,

I am not, so I guess that explains it. Thanks!

danc4498 ,

Eat more fiber.

Eideen ,
@Eideen@lemmy.world avatar

The Sink plunger is more versetile.

Dabundis ,

Some sink plungers have a collapsible flange hidden inside

CMDR_Horn ,

I also enjoy touching the inside of a plunger

Dabundis ,

Call me crazy but I wear gloves when cleaning toilets

NuXCOM_90Percent ,

Not gonna say that I always grab some gloves before I plunge away my horror.

But I DO wash the ever loving hell out of that plunger after every use. I still prefer dedicated toilet (poo) and sink (gunk) plunger because obvious reasons, but in a pinch?

snooggums ,
@snooggums@midwest.social avatar

I wash my hands afterwards.

Golfnbrew ,

That’s a toilet plunger. Exactly. Sink plungers have no flange. :)

Varyk OP ,

Howww so?

Like as a training sword?

Eideen ,
@Eideen@lemmy.world avatar

I do love a good swordfight.

If the flange is not collapseble it can’t be used in sink.

sirico ,
@sirico@feddit.uk avatar

Soup bowl for feeding tall people

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