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Varyk OP , (edited )

Wow, jackpot upvotes!

Thanks.

I was just as excited as everyone here is when I found out what the flange is for.

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Oh snip snaps cumulative upvotes jackpot!

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Daxtron2 ,

cringe

Varyk OP , (edited )

okay…i cringed.

nope, didnt get anything out of that.

Daxtron2 ,

try harder, if you do it right you’ll achieve nirvana

Varyk OP ,

that must be it, i achieved nirvana ages ago.

Daxtron2 ,

Well that’d do it, what are you doing slumming it with us normies

Varyk OP ,

hanging.

being all bodhisattva and shit.

it’s a fun way to encourage development.

Sam_Bass ,

Until they start stiffening with age.

Godnroc ,

Usually age has the opposite effect, but I hear they make pills for that.

Sam_Bass ,

The epdm mine is made of is quite stiff after about 10 years of use

bitwolf ,

They’re talking more like 40 or 50 years. You’ve got plenty of time

Sam_Bass ,

Lkke i said mine is already stiffening after 10 years. Its almost like hard plastic now

BedSharkPal ,

/Arteries have entered the chat

uriel238 ,
@uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Sink plungers without the flange work better on sinks, in my experience. So it’s nice to have one of each.

There are different builds for drainage snakes for sinks and toilets as well.

One way to be a better neighbor is to get a good drain snake and lend it out as needed.

AA5B ,

I wonder what the history of this was, and why I never knew about this.

Was there always such a distinction? Did it apply to older toilets as well? Were all my parents, relatives, friends parents just cheap and got the wrong one?

Corkyskog ,

I have only seen one in a commercial bathroom and I just assumed it had to do with those industrial shaped toilets they use.

I have IBS so that’s saying a lot.

Varyk OP ,

“Was there always such a distinction?”

No, The first cup plunger was invented as the flushing mechanism in 1777, since the flushing toilet wasn’t invented until almost 1800.

that one looked pretty similar to cup plungers of today.

As far as I can find, accordion and flange plungers were developed later to accommodate the standardized outtake valves of modern toilets.

“Did it apply to older toilets as well?”

Yup, except the first cup plunger was held like a hammer rather than a plunger is held today.

“Were all my parents, relatives, friends parents just cheap and got the wrong one?”

Mine certainly were, and again, this design difference is for some reason not common knowledge, so it’s more likely they just didn’t know that the flanged plunger is specifically made for toilet drains.

Adderbox76 ,

This little bad boy here has changed my life.

www.isicanadainc.com/product/one-second-plumber/

Varyk OP ,

Haha, that commercial is very funny, but it actually works?

is it shooting compressed air?

it has a 12 shot magazine?

I don’t quite understand what it is.

Adderbox76 ,

It’s essentially a handheld air cannon. The kit comes with a handle and a suction that covers the toilet hole or whatever. You press down and yeah…it’s basically a air-gun shot to the clog.

And yeah. It works great. Not always on the first blast. But I’ve never had it fail me.

Varyk OP ,

awesome, good to know about.

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

I refuse to acknowledge someone is plunging enough to have their life changed by a plunger. Unless you’re using that thing to do whipits.

Adderbox76 ,

Ha ha. No no. I’m pretty good. No problems with the old downstairs plumbing. But it’s not just for toilets. It’s for bathtub sinks clogged with hair. Kitchen sinks, etc… It’s just handy to have around the house. I even used it once to blow the dust out of my dryer vent.

jawa21 ,
@jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That site has to be one of the poorest editing and proofreading jobs I’ve ever seen.

tilefan ,

often, the toilet plunger will look like a sink one on the shelf because they pushed the flange up inside

Bianca_0089 ,

The toilets at my moms house are teeny tiny so this doesn’t matter on them

But yes… without the toilet plunger on the right: Do not even try the left one with a modern day toilet, it’s sooooo messy

Clinicallydepressedpoochie ,

My favorite with the flanged is all the shit that gets caught inside and splashes when you lift it out the water.

Skates ,

Does this really qualify as a diagram?

Varyk OP ,

i wondered the same thing!

i checked dictionaries and i think it does as far as the flange comparison is diagrammed to illustrate the technical differences in design.

what do you suggest?

Winged_Hussar ,
@Winged_Hussar@lemmy.world avatar

Good post - needed it about a week ago 😂

Moved into a new place with high efficiency toilets and only had our old plunger. Spent multiple hours trying to clear it. I had no idea that these HE toilets are:

1.) More prone to clogs, need pipe maintenance

2.) Elongated and don’t work well with a normal plunger

Nearly called a plumber but on a final try picked up a BeeHive plunger at the hardware store.

Took a few attempts, but got it situated correctly and fixed the clog.

Varyk OP ,

Haha dang, I’m glad you got it worked out.

Until I learned the difference, I’d slosh around in there with a normal plunger only after pouring lots of hot water in, which usually works great.

Carighan ,
@Carighan@lemmy.world avatar

It’s important to have the right-size flange for each hole, yes.

stoly ,

This is true for sure. You can definitely use either in either situation if you have to.

Varyk OP ,

not at all effectively.

flanged plungers typically dont fit sink drains and will deform upon compression, and sink plungers dont create enough of a vacuum seal in the toilet outtake to be of much use without a lot of unnecessary effort and mess.

stoly ,

True but you can make it work if you have no choice.

Varyk OP ,

in situations where the clog is mild, sure.

If the clog is severe, then you’ll make little and often no headway using a flanged plunger on a sink drain or a sink plunger on a toilet, no matter how long and frantically you thrust away and splash about.

the flanged plunger isn’t rigid enough to create the necessary vacuum or pressure in a sink and the sink plunger doesn’t create a tight enough seal to create the necessary pressure in a toilet unless the clog is mild in the first place.

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

I guess you get less shit smeared on the top.

Buddahriffic ,

I once lived in an apartment where the bathtub drain was pretty plugged. It would drain but every shower was done in a slowly rising puddle. I tried draino but it didn’t make a difference.

I eventually had a roommate move in and noticed right away that the tub drained better, asked him how he fixed it. He used the plunger. It blew my mind because up until that moment, I had thought a plunger was specifically for use with toilets.

Now I have a toilet plunger plus a smaller sink plunger since the size of the standard one can be awkward to use on a sink, plus the whole not wanting to use something that’s been in the toilet on things outside of the toilet.

Not that I’ve even had a plugged toilet in years, and, having a bidet, it’s even less likely going forward.

Varyk OP ,

Bidet for the win.

that’s cool, I love stories with aha and oh-whaaaat moments.

i like the smaller sink plungers also,very useful little guys

Etterra ,

I’ve used both and there’s not really an appreciable difference in my experience.

Varyk OP ,

Hm, doubt it.

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