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Churbleyimyam ,

I think AI has mostly been about luring investors into pumping up share prices rather than offering something of genuine value to consumers.

Some people are gonna lose a lot of other people’s money over it.

themurphy ,

Definitely. Many companies have implemented AI without thinking with 3 brain cells.

Great and useful implementation of AI exists, but it’s like 1/100 right now in products.

floofloof ,

If my employer is anything to go by, much of it is just unimaginative businesspeople who are afraid of missing out on what everyone else is selling.

At work we were instructed to shove ChatGPT into our systems about a month after it became a thing. It makes no sense in our system and many of us advised management it was irresponsible since it’s giving people advice of very sensitive matters without any guarantee that advice is any good. But no matter, we had to shove it in there, with small print to cover our asses. I bet no one even uses it, but sales can tell customers the product is “AI-driven”.

PerogiBoi ,
@PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca avatar

My old company before they laid me off laid off our entire HR and Comms teams in exchange for ChatGPT Enterprise.

“We can just have an AI chatbot for HR and pay inquiries and ask Dall-e to create icons and other content”.

A friend who still works there told me they’re hiring a bunch of “prompt engineers” to improve the quality of the AI outputs haha

verity_kindle ,

I’m sorry. Hope you find a better job, on the inevitable downswing of the hype, when someone realizes that a prompt can’t replace a person in customer service. Customers will invest more time, i.e., even wait in a purposely engineered holding music hell, to have a real person listen to them.

themurphy ,

That’s an even worse ‘use case’ than I could imagine.

HR should be one of the most protected fields against AI, because you actually need a human resource.

And “prompt engineer” is so stupid. The “job” is only necessary because the AI doesn’t understand what you want to do well enough. The only productive guy you could hire would be a programmer or something, that could actually tinker with the AI.

spiderman ,

Yeah, can make some products better but most of the products these days that use AI, it doesn’t actually need them. It’s annoying to use products that actively shovel AI when it doesn’t even need it.

Lost_My_Mind ,

Ya know what pfoduct MIGHT be better with AI?

Toasters. They have ONE JOB, and everybody agrees their toaster is crap. But you’re not going to buy another toaster, because that too will be crap.

How about a toaster, that accurately, and evenly toasts your bread, and then DOESN’T give you a heart attack at 5am when you’re still half asleep???

IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK???

grue ,

Sweet, I’m the one who gets to link the obligatory Technology Connections toaster video!

paw ,

Aw man, now I want this toaster.

SolarMonkey ,

I said the exact same thing months ago when I saw that video. I don’t even use a toaster.

T156 ,

Nah. We already have AI toasters, and they’re ambitious, but rubbish.

Adding AI is just serious overkill for a toaster, especially when it wouldn’t add anything meaningful, not compared to just designing the toaster better.

verity_kindle ,

It only needs one string of conditions that it can understand: don’t catch on fire. Turn yourself off IF smoke.

BorgDrone ,

AI toasters are a Bad Idea

verity_kindle ,

This is the visionary we need. Take my venture capital millions on a magic carpet ride, time traveler!

peto ,

A lot of it is follow the leader type bullshit. For companies in areas where AI is actually beneficial they have already been implementing it for years, quietly because it isn’t something new or exceptional. It is just the tool you use for solving certain problems.

Investors going to bubble though.

SlopppyEngineer ,

Yes, I’m getting some serious dot-com bubble vibes from the whole AI thing. But the dot-com boom produced Amazon, and every company is basically going all-in in the hope they are the new Amazon while in the end most will end up like pets.com but it’s a risk they’re willing to take.

slaacaa ,

“You might lose all your money, but that is a risk I’m willing to take”

  • visionairy AI techbro talking to investors
SlopppyEngineer ,

Investors pump money in a bunch of companies so the chances of at least one of them making it big and paying them back for all the failed investments is almost guaranteed. That’s what taking risks is all about.

verity_kindle ,

Sure, but it SEEMS, that some investors are relying on buzzword and hype, without research and ignoring the fundamentals of investing, i.e. besides the ever evolving claims of the CEO, is the company well managed? What is their cash flow and where is it going a year from now? Do the upper level managers have coke habits?

slaacaa ,

You’re right, but these fundamentals don’t really matter anymore, investors are buying hype and hoping to sell a bigger hype for more money later.

Aceticon ,

Seeing the whole thing as Knowingly Trading in Hype is actually a really good insight.

Certainly it neatly explains a lot.

rottingleaf ,

Also called a Ponzi scheme, where every participant knows it’s a scam, but hopes to find some more fools before it crashes and leave with positive balance.

Churbleyimyam ,

If the whole sector turns out to be garbage it won’t matter which particular set of companies within it you invest in; you will get burned if you cash out after everyone else.

barsoap ,

OpenAI will fail. StabilityAI will fail. CivitAI will prevail, mark my words.

riskable ,
@riskable@programming.dev avatar

My doorbell camera manufacturer now advertises their products as using, “Local AI” meaning, they’re not relying on a cloud service to look at your video in order to detect humans/faces/etc. Honestly, it seems like a good (marketing) move.

SLVRDRGN ,

I tried to find the advert but I see this on YouTube a lot - an Adobe AI ad which depicts, without shame, AI writing out a newsletter/promo for a business owner’s new product (cookies or ice cream or something), showing the owner putting no effort into their personal product and a customer happily consuming because they were attracted by the thoughtless promo.

How are producers/consumers okay with everything being so mediocre??

Churbleyimyam ,

How are producers/consumers okay with everything being so mediocre??

I’m not. My particular beef is with is with plastics and toxic materials and chemicals being ubiquitous in everything I buy. Systemic problem that I can do almost nothing about apart from make things myself out of raw materials.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

<—Not this cat. I become highly aroused when i hear salespeople gargling out their marketing bullshit

Yeah, baby, lie for me. Mmmm call a LLM “AI” again.

fuck that’s hot

DonPiano ,
@DonPiano@feddit.org avatar

Hey now, LLMs are AI!

… So is the code that makes those ghosts in s super mario approach you when you look away and cower when you look at them.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

At least Shy Guys are cute.

markon ,

AlphaProof isn’t an LLM but it just was a point from gold against some of the smartest people on earth. You think you’re smarter than the people building this stuff? That might be the dumbest shit about this. I swear the United States essentially really has become Ideocracy. From all angles. Capitalism sucks but AI isn’t the problem. Bunch of greedy apes is the fucking problem like it always has been. Lol

So you know if you have clean water and food though, you could be considered a very greedy ape. Why are you not fighting harder for clean water etc? What do you do to make the world better? (Shit probably same as me. Jack shit)

the_post_of_tom_joad , (edited )

Hmmm i have to reread my previous comment cuz people are getting the wrong idea (maybe)

Im talking about marketing doublespeak, and the fact a press release to the public at large will never admit “AI” has become bad in the public perception because of marketing. It is because of these marketing mba dipshits and clueless fad followers putting “AI” on stuff that is

Not AI

Or

Not useful to the consumer, and indeed has many anti-consumer facets, being used primarily as an excuse to fire workers, push software as a service, or mine consumer info.

The point i tried and failed to make was these MBA fucks (categorically not the engineers building ai or the llms we also call ai) are so insulated inside their corpo boardroom-speak they can’t see or admit it’s their fault, or ever hear how goddamn stupid they sound.

werefreeatlast ,

Also just listening and reading what people say. We don’t want fucking AI anything. We understand what it might do. We don’t want it.

the_post_of_tom_joad , (edited )

Yeah these buttsniffers can’t possibly conceive the truth, they made “AI” into something that people don’t want, let alone ever admit it. Check this out:

“When AI is mentioned, it tends to lower emotional trust, which in turn decreases purchase intentions” - some marketing stinklipper

“We found emotional trust plays a critical role in how consumers perceive AI-powered products”.

Ok, first of all how is this person serious fire this person please cuz this gibberish sounds like a LLM wrote it like for real WTF even is “emotional trust” dude is that a real term so you mean we see your lies

(wheeze)

Sorry, brain overheated there. These fucks are so far up their own asses man… the mind just boggles

EDIT: clarity

DonPiano ,
@DonPiano@feddit.org avatar

You’re mad that someone investigates and elaborates on causes of why using llm marketing bullshit is a bad idea? Weird.

the_post_of_tom_joad ,

Well i was trying to be funny and my joke didn’t land lol. Can’t win em all

markon ,

Citation please?

x00z ,
@x00z@lemmy.world avatar

Well, maybe if they weren’t using AI as a hypeword and just called it adaptive or GPT.

NidoranDuran ,
@NidoranDuran@kbin.run avatar

Every company that has been trying to push their shiny, new AI feature (which definitely isn't part of a rush to try and capitalize on the prevalence of AI), my instant response is: "Yeah, no, I'm finding a way to turn this shit off."

pastermil ,

Glad to hear I’m not the only one!

Squizzy ,

For the first time in years I thought about buying a new phone. The S23 Ultra, the previous versions had been improving significantly but the price was a factor. Then I got a promotion and figured I would splurge, the S24 Ultra, but it was all aout AI so I just stayed where I am…it does everything anyway.

octopus_ink ,

And workers…

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/78f2ba67-c53a-48a1-a9c2-e4372fd01f38.jpeg

https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/7e0cf968-c73c-41f2-9c4c-1cc7d7ea0302.jpeg

RootBeerGuy ,
@RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de avatar

She looks so done with it. It is amazing how tone deaf and incapabale of detecting emotions the higher ups must have been to OK that image. Not blaming any one lower to approve this, they are probably all fed up too and were happy to use this.

verity_kindle ,

Plus, it’s way too cold at her vast and empty warehouse hot desk, because she’s wearing at least two sweaters. Please let this lady have a cubicle of her own with a little space heater.

veeesix ,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

Is that a real copilot ad?

octopus_ink ,

Yep. Give me time and I’ll dig up the link.

octopus_ink , (edited )

This is the link I had I believe, but it’s not loading for me now. Either it will work for you, or they pulled it. www.instagram.com/microsoft365/p/C7j8ipnxIiI/?img… (comments were brutal IIRC)

Related article about it: futurism.com/microsoft-brags-ai-attend-three-meet…

veeesix ,
@veeesix@lemmy.ca avatar

The post is still there.

I just can’t see anyone contributing anything meaningful to a meeting when they’re split across three different conversations. If that’s the case for this hypothetical employee, she’s part of the problem.

octopus_ink ,

I just can’t see anyone contributing anything meaningful to a meeting when they’re split across three different conversations. If that’s the case for this hypothetical employee, she’s part of the problem.

I think the whole idea is that the AI handles two of those meetings for her (somehow) But yes, I try to put myself in the mind of someone who is enthused to finally be able to “attend” three meetings at once, and I just can’t. I have a good job that I mostly enjoy, and am usually enthusiastic about my work. No fucking way.

The only people who could want this are the 1% (and wanna-be 1%), and they want it so the rest of us can attend three meetings at once to increase their wealth even faster.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

It’s people who brag about how hard they work and how many hours they work when other people say they hate their jobs.

And those people make me laugh. Oh really? You worked 80 hours last week? I “worked” 40, which meant about 4 hours of actual work a day, clocked out at 5 on the dot every day and spent time with my family.

barsquid ,

I’m never contributing anything meaningful to the meetings I am continuously added to, so it would be nice to have an AI stand in. I could do the goddamn job I originally applied for instead of scrums, special project scrums, and meta scrums.

Grandwolf319 ,

I mean, that’s exactly the advantage of slack over meetings but that doesn’t tickle middle management fancy as much.

Kalysta ,

Adobe Acrobat has added AI to their program and I hate it so much. Every other time I try to load a PDF it crashes. Wish I could convince my boss to use a different PDF reader.

markon ,

Adobe sucks but they have sucked their whole existence. No AI needed.

thesohoriots ,

For the love of god, defund MBAs.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

Give them a box of crayons to eat so the adults can get some work done

aphonefriend ,

Fallout was right.

altima_neo ,
@altima_neo@lemmy.zip avatar

I don’t know anyone who is actively looking for products that have “AI”.

It’s like companies drank their own Kool aid and think because they want AI, so do the consumers. I have no need for AI. My parents don’t even understand what it is. I can’t imagine Gen Z gives a hoot.

JCreazy ,

There are even companies slapping AI labels onto old tech with timers to trick people into buying it.

1995ToyotaCorolla ,
@1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world avatar

That one DankPods video of the “AI Rice cooker” comes to mind

JCreazy ,

Yeah that’s the one I saw

EvilBit ,

For what it’s worth, rice cookers have been touting “fuzzy logic” for like 30 years. The term “AI” is pretty much the same, it just wasn’t as buzzy back then.

jubilationtcornpone ,

I think there is potential for using AI as a knowledge base. If it saves me hours of having to scour the internet for answers on how to do certain things, I could see a lot of value in that.

The problem is that generative AI can’t determine fact from fiction, even though it has enough information to do so. For instance, I’ll ask Chat GPT how to do something and it will very confidently spit out a wrong answer 9/10 times. If I tell it that that approach didn’t work, it will respond with “Sorry about that. You can’t do [x] with [y] because [z] reasons.” The reasons are often correct but ChatGPT isn’t “intelligent” enough to ascertain that an approach will fail based on data that it already has before suggesting it.

It will then proceed to suggest a variation of the same failed approach several more times. Every once in a while it will eventually pivot towards a workable suggestion.

So basically, this generation of AI is just Cliff Clavin from Cheers. Able to to sting together coherent sentences of mostly bullshit.

verity_kindle ,

Cliffy didn’t hallucinate as much.

Juice ,

Okay but have you considered shoving AI down the throats of consumers and forcing them to use it? I say invest in more gigantic server farms!

cheddar ,
@cheddar@programming.dev avatar

Unsurprisingly. I have use for LLMs and find them helpful, but even I don’t see why should we have the copilot button on new keyboards and mice, as well as on the LinkedIn’s post input form.

razorwiregoatlick ,
@razorwiregoatlick@lemmy.world avatar

There are certainly great uses for LLMs. 99% of the time it is useless though.

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