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ForgottenFlux OP ,

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    bolexforsoup ,

    IIRC this means the family plan costs more than 3 individual plans did like 3 years ago. If not more than it saves you like $.50 in comparison. I would try and look it up but Google search has also turned to shit so I don’t feel like dealing with it.

    The Internet just isn’t fun anymore.

    ogeist ,

    Indie internet is better, hi Lemmy

    bolexforsoup ,

    They’re still scraping us unfortunately

    owatnext ,
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    innovate its product features

    What. It’s meant to stream music. Tf do you mean?

    uberdroog ,
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    AI generated music based off your likes and listening. It lines up with his statements. There was no innovation here. The same as every “disruptor” technology that just cheapified everything and one it was ubiquitous attempt to remove the core of the business.

    NeptuneOrbit ,

    The bad Ai dj. The car thing they rolled back. The new logo that’s the same as the old one, but now border. The cache that causes you to hear the same ten songs multiple times in a week.

    noodlejetski ,

    the playlist saved for offline playback that will still try to connect to the internet for like 30 seconds when you open it while actually offline. the Discover Weekly playlist that will serve you the song that you’ve marked as “not interested” over and over and over and

    serpineslair ,

    The UI that gets progressively worse with each update, ruining what was perfectly fine before. The attempts to create the audio focused equivalent of TikTok.

    Sanctus ,
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    The way shuffle constantly shuts itself off even when set within the settings to be the default. The shitty Smart Shuffle that adds in songs that break up my playlists terribly. The way it plays the same song again the first time you enable shuffle and hit next.

    jojo ,
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    Yall are noting not even the reason why I went to Apple Music: no ability to actually consistently sync an offline library across devices, your own files.

    Mycroft ,

    The “repeat” option that activates itself is probably the most frustrating bug. I can’t recall the last time I legitimately wanted to listen to a song on repeat but it enable itself very often.

    If I could simply remove the feature I would.

    intensely_human ,

    That’s never happened to me

    helenslunch ,
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    The attempts to create the audio focused equivalent of TikTok.

    That actually sounds pretty cool, how do I get that?

    serpineslair ,

    You do you I guess. If you scroll down far enough on the android app home screen it will start displaying recommended content in the typical short-form layout. I believe you can also click on a small rectangle on some playlists and it will do a similar thing.

    BakerBagel ,

    I use Tidal and get annoyed because the shuffle clearly has a recency bias to it, and it keeps trying to recommend show tunes to me in my Daily Discovery, and the suggested albums for me has become considerably worse since the last update, but everything i hear about what Spotify has been doing has made me glad i switched over a couple years ago.

    Dagnet ,

    How good is tidal? Is its catalogue as good as Spotify?

    can ,

    Yeah, get a trial and see though.

    Palerider ,
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    I’ve recently switched from Spotify to Tidal and I’m happy with it…

    UltraMagnus0001 ,

    Tidal does have higher bitrate songs, also atmos and sony’s 360 audio and when done right the spacial audio sounds nice. Amazon music is decent too and it comes with prime.

    b3an ,
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    The cache part pisses me off. I’m fucking paying you to stream me music. Not the same fucking shit over and over and over again.

    doctordevice ,

    I really don’t get it. Users have been begging for a true random shuffle for years. It’s not a hard thing to implement.

    GissaMittJobb ,

    True random shuffle would be a terrible idea. No one wants the same track showing up multiple times in a row, which would not be uncommon in true random shuffle.

    Pelicanen ,

    I think the idea is that the play order for the entire playlist is shuffled on each loop, so you play all songs in one order, then it shuffles, and you play all songs again but in a different order.

    shaman1093 ,

    ^this - why is it so hard to implement sigh

    doctordevice ,

    I disagree that that’s what it means, IMO “shuffle” explicitly means each track exactly once. Pedantry aside, what I meant was a truly randomized order when you shuffle a playlist. It’s a major critique of Spotify among users and has been for a very long time.

    intensely_human ,

    You can make a truly random shuffle that doesn’t do that in like five pibes of code. This is the most pointless objection to random shuffle that I’ve ever seen.

    intensely_human ,

    Lines of code. Lines. Not pibes.

    In unrelated news, I hate autocorrect. Pibes is not a fucking word.

    GissaMittJobb ,

    I mean, not really. This is actually a non-trivial topic, and true random is a really bad label for what someone actually wants out of a shuffling algorithm.

    See the following engineering blog post on the subject: …atspotify.com/…/how-to-shuffle-songs/

    JohnnyCanuck ,
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    They did add audiobooks.

    Though the interface for audiobooks sucks, so I hope they improve it.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Their podcast and audiobook integration has been so sloppy.

    TrickDacy ,

    The last thing I ever wanted from Spotify was audiobooks or podcasts. We’ve had excellent apps available for several years already, we don’t need half assed bloat added to (very poorly) replicate the same features

    agressivelyPassive ,

    The part is what drives me mad. Podcasts and audiobooks are not that hard to do properly. You could very easily separate them into distinct apps or at least a special tab that acts like a proper player. Instead audiobooks are basically albums.

    There’s a shuffle button.

    On an audiobook.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    Yup this is what irks me most. I don’t think of audio books and music in the same context. Why the fuck are they mashing them together? Wrapped includes podcasts…

    Cavemanfreak ,

    Nah, what’s worse is that it’s only 15(!) hours per month!

    BakerBagel ,

    Which for most people would give you a week of audiobooks to listen to in your commute to work.

    Cavemanfreak ,

    Sure, but it also only counts book time. If you listen 2x it’s only 7.5 hours.

    stufkes ,

    Without podcasts I am not sure I’d still use Spotify

    TrickDacy , (edited )

    Why not use a free/cheap pocketing app designed for it specifically? All the podcast apps I’ve tried are far better than spotify. UI-wise at least.

    BakerBagel ,

    It’s the dumb goal of tech bros to create an “everything app” that does everything you want.

    dinckelman ,

    If anything, they’ve taken features away from people lately. The quality is still shit. Lossless is still nowhere to be seen. Free users are losing options too. Yet they’re making record profits, and jacking up the price

    agressivelyPassive ,

    Spotify actually doesn’t make that much profit, if any.

    But the record labels are major shareholders and definitely influence the pricing structure. Spotify is essentially a marketing frontend for the record industry.

    JackbyDev ,

    I am literally looking at their financial report for 2024 Q1 and it shows a profit.

    CleoTheWizard ,
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    They’re reporting 1.00 billion in gross profit as of Q1 2024 so yeah, they make money. It’s kind of impossible to compare much though since they’re the only freestanding music competitor that’s popular.

    The closest comparison I can make is using Apples reported figures of making around $9.2 billion in revenue for its 93 million user base.

    Meanwhile Spotify is making around 2.63 billion in revenue for its near 3x subscriber base estimated around 240 million. So I wouldn’t say they’re not making money, but maybe you can see why they think they can squeeze a lot more. Best to just unsubscribe honestly, they’ll keep doing this

    intensely_human ,

    So they’re leaving a lot of money on the table and getting criticized for their greed? I’m not sure how that’s a coherent position.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    This is why they have record profits. They attack at both ends. Strip features, increase prices.

    lemmytellyousomething ,

    They haven’t ever been profitable with just streaming music.

    can ,

    So now that Tidal has moved its Hi-Fi tier price down to match Apple’s wtf is Spotify doing? Charging more than the competition, paying artists less, and not even offering lossless?

    dmtalon ,

    And as long as people keep subscribing to them, they’ll March right along collecting that sweet money.

    Infynis ,
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    Spotify is less vulnerable to customer churn compared to TV/movie streaming services, as users are less likely to switch music streaming providers due to the hassle of rebuilding playlists and losing personalized recommendations.

    can ,

    There are services for transferring playlists

    cyberpunk007 ,

    yes but often there are some mixups… which is a PITA for those of us with ~10K+ songs

    can ,

    I’m an album man so while I have beyond that many tracks it’s more seemless for me.

    a4ng3l ,

    Would you happen to have one to recommend to switch from Spotify to apple music? I’m thinking about moving but my playlists are keeping me from leaving.

    can , (edited )

    There’s probably I few. I used Soundiiz before, just get a free trial and convert them. I also just found Playlisty.

    Kraven_the_Hunter ,

    I used TuneMyMusic when I switched to Amazon Music a few months ago. It worked really well. It costs $4 or $5 to subscribe for a month but it’s a huge time saver.

    SneakyLemming ,

    I moved all my music using the SongShift app on iOS which was super convenient. At least when I bought it, it was a 1 time cost of like $5, not sure about now. But it matches songs and lets you see which ones don’t line up and then copies the playlist over exactly the same.

    CosmicTurtle0 ,

    I predict in a few months, they will put their API behind a paid tier.

    GissaMittJobb ,

    Data takeouts are non-optional under the GDPR, so I would be very surprised if that happens.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Spotify has over 200mill paying subscribers and over 600mill total I believe. They an afford the peel off unfortunately.

    From what I can tell Tidal won’t even publish their subscribers so it must be pretty small.

    can , (edited )

    Nvm I think my app bugged out

    ThirdWorldOrder ,

    And they don’t offer music videos like Apple does

    Aku ,

    So is there an alternative that’s comparable? I am done with their price increases.

    I assume Apple Music?

    Neato ,
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    businessinsider.com/…/best-music-streaming-servic…

    Not really. They all cost about the same amount. In that article is right around $11 across the board.

    VieuxQueb ,
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    I got Tidal since I read they pay artists a bigger share per track played.

    I like it’s hight quality audio but don’t like it’s suggestions much. I did discover a few good songs but mostly I build my own playlist. To discover music I prefer to start playlist based on a song I like rather than their suggestions but it’s not perfect.

    Neato ,
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    I got Tidal since I read they pay artists a bigger share per track played.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDfNRWsMRsU

    Not a significant amount and they, along with all streaming services, have massively cut artist payouts in recent years. There aren’t really any good platforms for artists. Only labels get any amount of meaningful money.

    vividspecter ,

    There aren’t really any good platforms for artists.

    There’s bandcamp, but it’s not really a streaming platform per se.

    PineRune ,

    I got grandfathered into YouTube Music since I was using Google Music when it got shut down. While not as good as Google Music, YT Music works well for me and has been building playlists suited to what I want to listen to. Plus, some lesser known local artists that only have their music on YouTube as video uploads will still show up on YouTube Music. I haven’t really tried any other serious streaming platforms, and only YT Music and Spotify natively sync to my car with maps.

    frickineh ,

    Depends on if you care about making set playlists. That’s the feature that generally costs more - Pandora is like $5 a month without that option, and $11 with it. I only listen in the car and don’t care about picking exactly what songs are on my stations, so I have the cheaper one, but for other people, that wouldn’t cut it.

    wreckedcarzz ,
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    I have never understood playlists as a ‘feature’ of these ‘services’. If someone wants that, why the hell don’t people just download the music and make local playlists? But the entire idea behind playlists has always baffled me - ‘yes I want to listen to the same songs in the same order every time I select this’ bro you’ve just made a mixtape from the 80s. And paid for the privilege. Good job.

    For me the one and only appeal of any of these ‘services’ is to take what I currently like, blend like 3% of ‘similar songs/artists’ that I likely don’t know about, and get the hell out of the way otherwise. I’ve never had a decent experience with ‘let’s throw random shit at you and pray you like some of it’ ‘discovery’ systems. I don’t care what is popular with the masses, I don’t care what your ‘djs’ have ‘curated’, I don’t want to listen to your reinvention of radio, I don’t want to listen to someone talk between tracks, I don’t want to even be aware of talk show ‘radio’ oh my christ. Just give me fucking music, that I like, with a hint of weird. I give you my imported data from X prior service, I give you my entire last.fm data, I cannot make it any easier for you to do this. Just, do, it.

    deep breathing

    Sorry, I went to a place there. After like 20 years you’d think someone would get the formula right.

    jumjummy ,

    Counterpoint, I love the Spotify Discover Weekly feature. I’ve found some great gems. As for random playlists, I like to find lists that other people have made based on different genres I may be in the mode to listen to. Finding and downloading songs, to me, is way more inconvenient than using Spotify.

    ThirdWorldOrder ,

    I am an audiophile with thousands worth of gear. As far as streaming services go, I find Apple to offer the best bang for the buck. The second best would be probably YouTube. Tidal was unique years ago with hires lossless but that’s not uncommon anymore. Apple offers it as standard. Apple and YouTube also offer music videos which is a nice perk.

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    bolexforsoup ,

    Honestly €56 million in profit seems small for an operation as massive as Spotify that has so throughly saturated the market. That does not make it excusable at all. I’m just surprised to see that number.

    Infynis ,
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    I’m sure there’s tons they’ve made that their accountants have managed to classify as something other than “profit,” so they don’t have to pay taxes on it

    bolexforsoup ,

    First reasonable response I’ve gotten lol

    ThirdWorldOrder ,

    Most shitty companies do it with stock buybacks

    VieuxQueb ,
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    Profit is AFTER they pay their CEO and other suit’s

    bolexforsoup ,

    Yes I am aware.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    But is that net or gross?

    bolexforsoup ,

    If it’s profit it’s net by definition. Gross can’t be profit. You’re thinking of revenue. Gross is total revenue before any costs deducted.

    JackbyDev ,

    You may need to realign your usage of phrases. Their 2024 Q1 financial statement has a line for “gross profit” and “net income/(loss) attributable to the owners of the parent.”

    bolexforsoup ,

    I’m going off the number from the article that your dude linked. The guy said “€58 million in profit.” Totally possible he’s wrong though.

    JackbyDev ,

    I’m just saying there is a difference between “gross profit” and “net profit” because their official financial statement differentiates between it.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    I dunno, my QuickBooks shows me gross and net profit. Gross profit is your income after you remove cost of goods sols (COGS). Net profit is what the org nets after everything else like payroll and other expenses.

    bolexforsoup ,

    Yeah you right. Don’t bake and lemmy, folks

    exanime ,

    Who cares what the “company” does when, as CEO, you rake almost $400 MILLION a year

    mywage.ca/salary/celebrity-salary/daniel-ek

    PS: and this is while receiving “no salary” (which they sell as if they were running a charity and meager $1.4 million in “other” compensation

    bolexforsoup , (edited )

    I mean I understand there are a lot of caveats to that statement. Like I said, just kind of a surprising number. A company as massive as Spotify can have its revenue shift 10 of millions easily within a year, which means with a little nudge they could easily become unprofitable.

    It would be like, I don’t know, realizing after you’ve paid all of your bills and groceries everything you have $300 at the end of the month. Not a lot of wiggle room. This isn’t sympathy and the stakes aren’t the same lol, I’m just saying their margins are not as high as I would have suspected.

    A cursory search shows me competing figures - 7000+ and 15000+ employees. Both are very, very large numbers. Id have guessed they make hundreds of millions a year, not mid-8 figures. That’s probably what their payroll runs for 3-6mo.

    Edit: for perspective, they have over 200mill paying subscribers. If ~800,000 left they’d be break even. That’s like .4% of their MAU’s.

    exanime ,

    It would be like, I don’t know, realizing after you’ve paid all of your bills and groceries everything you have $300 at the end of the month. Not a lot of wiggle room

    Well that depends… if I have only $300 at the end of the month but I have already paid every bill and allocated $1,000,000 for entertainment, another $1,000,000 for personal expenses, another $1,000,000 for pet services, etc etc etc… the $300 left mean nothing… why do I need “wiggle room” when I can not just wiggle but literally run in every direction until I get tired and still not hit any limits?

    The relatively small profit margin is a PR strategy… one that is working well on you giving you the false impression the company is “tight” when in reality, they are milking every bit of it before you get to that figure.

    bolexforsoup ,

    It’s not good PR because it makes me think they’re poorly structured and poorly allocating their money lol

    exanime ,

    if it makes you not buy into their subscription, then it’s poor PR… if it makes you think they are not greedy fucks, then it’s good PR

    bolexforsoup ,

    None of this impacts whether or not I pay them. It makes me think they are wasteful and greedy. Those are not mutually exclusive

    exanime ,

    if it makes you change your opinion of them but not enough to either pay them or stop paying them, then it means nothing to them

    bolexforsoup ,

    The only reasons I should pay or not pay for something are 1) quality of service for the cost and 2) ethical considerations.

    Poor management does not factor in unless i am dependent on it for work. This is purely entertainment. Their being dumbasses is not a factor.

    You’re kind of moving the goalposts here as well. This is a silly debate at this point. All I said was I was surprised at the stated profit.

    exanime ,

    Ok, my only goal in replying to you was to point out that, your surprise is based on some fake, very easily manipulable information… They do this manipulation in part to portrait themselves as something they are not, which is part of the PR strategy whether it works on you or not… that is all

    onion ,

    They are usually losing money

    statista.com/…/profitability-development-of-spoti…

    JackbyDev ,

    That’s insane… 1000 plays per track?

    TheFeatureCreature ,
    @TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world avatar

    Round of telling people to stop using Spotify and consider one of the many, better alternatives.

    Zorsith ,
    @Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

    I mean they do have one good thing going for them: you can separate the art from the more controversial artists, because you know for sure the artist isn’t getting a damn thing from spotify

    Marighost ,
    @Marighost@lemm.ee avatar

    What are some alternatives? I’ve heard Tidal is one of the better ones. I’m not necessarily opposed to piracy/ripping my CD collection + self-hosted streaming, but if I can pay someone else for the convenience I’d rather do that.

    Do any services have a comparable family plan too?

    JackbyDev ,

    You should list some.

    TheFeatureCreature ,
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    Deezer, Tidal, Qobuz, Apple Music

    MisterMoo ,

    Deezer user checking in. After Spotify’s Rogan deal I tried Pandora, Apple Music, and Deezer and the latter was the only one I could live with. I’ve been using it for three years and never plan to go back.

    helenslunch ,
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    How are any of these better? They seem to all be shitty in all the same ways. Also I have no intention of giving Apple a single dollar, for a littany of reasons.

    PlainSimpleGarak ,

    I purchase the family plan of YouTube Music. In addition to the music, it comes with ad free YouTube videos. I watch a lot of yt so it’s a no brainer for me. Never used any other streaming service so I can’t compare.

    Bad_Engineering ,

    I would suggest anyone bothered by this to look into xManager.

    invertedspear ,

    Kind of love and hate that their website doesn’t explicitly say what it does. Like, if you can’t figure it out, you probably shouldn’t do it, even their GitHub is a bit dodgy on what the software is for, you can figure it out, but it’s never explicitly stated what it’s specifically meant for. “We help you install old versions of the app who must not be named” kinda bullshit.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    I think it’s intentional to avoid eyes on taking it down.

    zanyllama52 ,
    @zanyllama52@infosec.pub avatar

    This is the way.

    Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

    Anyone have an alternative with the same content, offline play, and integration into Android Auto? I would love to switch if something meets my needs.

    Nadaph ,

    I’m downloading Tidal to give it a shot but I would also like to hear other options. Tidal seems promising from a 30 second glance but that doesn’t tell me much.

    rayquetzalcoatl ,
    @rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world avatar

    I went with Tidal, not sure about Android Auto tho, what is that?

    Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

    Android auto is pretty much when you plug your phone into your car stereo and it runs like it’s own os from your phone. Google maps, music, etc. It just doesn’t run all apps though. Spotify is currently the key to any music playing in my car, so it’s important that whatever I use works with it. Apparently tidal does work with it so I might give it a shot. I will lose all my playlists though. 😔

    rayquetzalcoatl ,
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    Ohhh I see! That’s pretty cool!

    Yeah that’s rough :/ I had tonnes of playlists that I just kinda sacrificed! You could sit down and remake them tho if it’s worth the time investment! 👀

    Nadaph ,

    If it’s worth anything, Tidal has had great offline support so far. I’m missing a handful of tracks, but the offline support might be enough to move to Tidal. It’s either generally better quality, better offline, better shuffling, and a dollar less per month, or a console/tv app and a few more albums.

    DirkMcCallahan ,

    Another day, another moment of being thankful for my dedicated .mp3 player.

    cyberpunk007 ,

    I don’t consider this apples to apples.

    Walkman/Discman/MP3 Player. These you need to acquire music yourself, then inject it.

    Spotify/Tidal/YTM/Deezer etc, these are services that add recommendations and allow you to listen to practically anything under the sun. They are no the same thing.

    camr_on ,
    @camr_on@lemmy.world avatar

    Smh I want to get off Spotify for tidal but I don’t feel up to teaching my parents how to use a completely different music app

    mypasswordis1234 ,
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    Spotify Premium in practice has new benefits!

    More specifically: Lyrics that they took away from regular users some time ago.

    Kolanaki ,
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    They fucked it up for premium users too, though, since they’ve done that. Half the songs that I knew to have lyrics either no longer have them, or they constantly “fail to load.”

    can ,

    Seriously, damn, that’s feels like such a basic thing

    Gestrid ,

    I remember I used to have an add-on (at least I think it was an add-on; didn’t Spotify officially support those at some point?) that synced the lyrics of a song to the timestamp. It used user submissions to figure out the timestamps and edit the lyrics. It was pretty cool.

    FlashMobOfOne ,
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    After watching how similar business practices torched Twitter, I think this dude is underestimating the general public’s commitment to just sail the high seas.

    moon ,

    The average person: Spotify sucks and is making me hate them even more

    Shareholders seeing layoffs followed by AI replacements for those workers and then repeated price hikes: 🤑

    jorp ,

    The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer. It’s very obvious that it only improves, at best, the next quarter’s returns for the investor. Once that husk of a company stops “line going up,” the money goes elsewhere and we repeat.

    If the line can’t go up through creation it’ll go up through destruction.

    aStonedSanta ,

    It worked differently before speech was considered money. Or I like to tell myself that.

    Croquette ,

    It worked differently before because the information network was orders of magnitude slower and data was expensive as Pope shit.

    Nowadays, the information is almost instant and everything is interconnected and data storage is cheap so we got big data with people paid solely to boil that down to algorithms that squeeze money as much as possible from customers.

    Just look at all the streaming services that makes you pay more if you don’t want ads and they resell your data. Triple dipping baby

    aStonedSanta ,

    This is for sure a big part of it also. Greed greed and greed being the main draw lol

    jorp ,

    Everyone that works for a company is poorer, every company is scraping by and making cuts, but executives are making more and more money

    intensely_human ,

    The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer

    So you don’t think your life is better than someone from the 16th century?

    jorp ,

    I’m so tired of this nonsense argument, is capitalism your God to which you give credit for every human accomplishment? How did capitalism help to raise the Russian serfs to the status of a world superpower? It didn’t… How did capitalism help Russia get to space before the United States? How did capitalism help human life improve before the 16th century?

    I wonder what you even think capitalism is. I wonder if you comprehend that technological advancement, markets, money, and trade aren’t synonymous with it.

    You love democracy but when it comes to matters of economic decisions you are bootlicking the petite dictators that control every aspect of your economic life. You are employed by people whose means of acquiring wealth is to skim off the top of what you’re producing and steal it from you but you are too busy making eye contact while you suck them off that you don’t see their hand in your pocket.

    The world is burning and there’s plastic in your balls because of capitalism, you are such a good submissive little peasant.

    Ganbat ,

    Remember: Stealing from big, evil corporations is morally correct.

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    Phegan ,

    Then let them die.

    spiderman ,

    and? what do you recommend?

    Phegan ,

    Supporting artists directly via bandcamp and other options.

    If you can’t support artists directly, and would have to buy physical media which supports the record label and not the artist…pirate.

    spiderman ,

    Bandcamp is great but in the POV of a third worlder, bandcamp is never going to reach our audience. People barely make ends or spend much on other subs so paying separate artists not something people here would prefer. Maybe ideal for supporting one or two artists you love.

    Sadly, physical media is dead here. Vinyl is still alive in some places but not here.

    I don’t support spotify but right now its the best here if you pay premium ofc. if there’s a better alternative that’s not geolocked, has good recommendation algo and pays artists better than spotify, i will be always happy to switch.

    FarceOfWill ,

    You see, the music labels know that stealing from Spotify is morally correct.

    lepinkainen ,

    IIRC labels own bits of Spotify, so they get their money that way. They don’t care if their music on the app actually makes a profit.

    where_am_i ,

    I just hope that one day Spotify goes premium-only and all of you can go cry somewhere else.

    Literally the hero of the music industry, but the whole lemmy takes a dump on them. Man, people on this platform are just all poor and uneducated. So, everything paid is bad, and no idea of what’s actually behind the costs.

    Go pirate some mp3s and remember, that despite how disgusting music labels are, if everyone did what you do, your favorite artist would’ve stopped producing their music long-long time ago. So, this simply puts you into the same leeching category with the corpos that you so despise.

    rayquetzalcoatl ,
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    The hero of the music industry? How do you mean? I’m not disagreeing with you re the pirating of mp3s, but I believe artists make far more in touring than streaming revenue - particularly with Spotify, which has very publicly been a sticking point in the past

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