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downpunxx ,

pour one out for a fallen hero

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

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Nurse_Robot ,

I see your comments every time I check Lemmy, and they never cease to disgust me. Get a life dude

PP_BOY_ ,
@PP_BOY_@lemmy.world avatar

New bio unlocked

manucode ,
@manucode@infosec.pub avatar

Press F to pay respects

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

Feel like this could have been demonstrated with a hot dog

Fermion ,

Or a chicken drumstick for somewhat similar bone strength.

nokturne213 ,

Is this the dipstick that tried it with a carrot, it cut the tip off and then said he was going to try it with his finger to be sure?

essteeyou ,

I don’t see “dipstick” in the wild very often, but I always appreciate it. Are you English by any chance?

nokturne213 ,

I am not. I had a vulgar word there, and decided to tone it down a little.

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

A baby carrot

It takes about the same force to bite through a baby carrot as it does to bite through a finger

As long as the carrot is pretty close to the size of the finger you’re wishing to stimulate

I wish I didn’t know that

QualifiedKitten ,

I wish I didn’t read that, and then read it again repeatedly trying to process what I just read. Lol. I’m sorry.

muntedcrocodile ,

Fortunately I don’t think that’s strictly accurate. Try biting through a chicken wing its not as easy as a carrot.

RedditRefugee69 ,

Yeah and bird bones are hollow

adamkempenich ,
@adamkempenich@lemmy.world avatar

Unless you’re talking about a loon.

Skates ,

They’re talking about a chicken. Source: they wrote the word “chicken”.

variants ,

But loon is an alternative fact chicken therefore chickens have carrot bones

tryitout ,

You need calcium.

gregorum ,

This isn’t true, and I know it as a fact. I’m not gonna tell you how I know, but I know.

Biting through a human finger bone takes much more force than it does to bite through a fucking carrot.

db2 ,

Joints exist though

gregorum ,

Ever eaten oxtail? Even after it’s cooked, tendons and shit is really hard to bite through. Way harder than a damn carrot.

Anyolduser ,

For real. If fingers were that easy to lob off nobody would make it to middle age with all of their digits.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

Maybe OP has leprosy.

deepfriedchril ,

Tendon after 6 or so hours simmering or 1 hour in a pressure cooker and you got my favorite pho add in.

vanderbilt , (edited )
@vanderbilt@lemmy.world avatar

Having done my time as an Army medic, this is incorrect. It takes more force than that, but less than you might think. A good 25 kilos with some velocity behind it will easily sever a phalange. Up it to 50 or 80 kilos and you can claim an arm or shin. Mass is the real killer. I’ve seen a vehicle at comically slow speed absolutely yeet someone because it had several tons of momentum behind it.

catloaf ,

Casual readers might remember a recent very low-speed collision that nonetheless caused a catastrophic failure due to the tens of thousands of tons of weight. The MV Dali vs. the Francis Scott Key Bridge, if you didn’t guess. It struck the bridge at about 8 mph.

Nurse_Robot ,

You’re full of it. This isn’t true.

Socsa ,

Everyone who read this just tried to bite their own finger

Gormadt ,
@Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Just doing my part

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

ABCDE ,

He tested it with multiple similar objects.

LesserAbe ,

Then he wouldn’t get nearly as many views. Or have articles written about him

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Wouldn’t get so many YouTube views right…

RizzRustbolt ,

Or a penis.

takeda ,

Penis, got it!

SkaveRat ,

No, it has to be something bigger than the panel gap

CleoTheWizard ,
@CleoTheWizard@lemmy.world avatar

He did demonstrate it that way, specifically with a carrot. And it somewhat worked. The problem is they programmed it to do more and more pressure every time it fails meaning that doing the carrot first actually caused a safety issue. He only moved onto his finger because the safety feature seemed to be working.

Sanctus ,
@Sanctus@lemmy.world avatar

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Geniuses.

toofpic ,

Because I am the bag commander. If I want the bag to fit, and it doesn’t fit, I’d better crush it!

rottingleaf ,

With that association - can Apple, Tesla etc marketing be generalized into something to be put into law?

To fucking ban those companies and make their patents public domain (or make them expire, not sure of the term).

I don’t care if a Google or two get stomped as a bonus.

tedu ,

There's plenty of dumb to go around, but the word frunk by itself is the dumbest thing about this story.

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

I figured that was a fucking typo at first

kibiz0r ,

A frunking typo

Jerkface ,

Let me guess: Front trunk? Please tell me I’m wrong.

catloaf ,

I could, but then I’d be a liar.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s actually short for “fore bunk” because you can sleep in there

beefbot ,

Yeah, I’d totally trust this deathtrap to let me back out in the morning 🙄 /s

SkaveRat ,

Then it will be a frasket

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

A froffin

onion ,

FRIP

barsquid ,

There’s no way I’m sleeping in an area that needs lockout/tagout to enter safely.

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

A monkey: Front trunk? That’s what I call my penis!

TheGrandNagus ,

Because it’s obviously a froot, right?

beefbot ,

So much dumb I’m inspired to re-write old song lyrics, like:

What they dunna goo with all that junk All that junk in side that FRUNK

or

My trunks / fore bunks / My stupid cyber FRUNKS

hOrni ,

So a hood. Or a bonnet.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Don't kink shame.
There is nothing wrong with 'frunking'.
Come closer, I'll get the lube.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

A Tesla engineer said the test was done wrong because the frunk increases in pressure every time.

“You are holding it wrong!” 🤣

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

Of course it just keeps hitting harder when things are in the way.

Literally Tesla’s response

NeoNachtwaechter ,

The vehicles deny reality, same as their creator…

cley_faye ,

I’m sure these “engineers” were confused everytime they saw an elevator door not mercilessly crush people.

barsquid ,

This breakthrough technology could finally provide a way to teach people on the MTA not to hold the doors.

gian ,

Nope, but they probably know that an elevator doors and a car lid are two completely different thing with different use cases and security concerns.

cley_faye ,

They sure did not know about the “not crushing human limbs” part.

gian ,

Obviously.

But let’s face it: if the car lid would never close if something is in the way, some other dumb youtuber would have made a video about it and here there would be a discussion about how stupid are the engineers to not let the lid close even if a bag in slightly on on the way and the user know what they are doing.

cley_faye ,

You’re missing the point of a safety feature. The car shouldn’t, by itself, close the lid if something’s in the way. It should allow the user to push it down, or disable it temporarily, to do so.

The point of a safety feature in any system is to prevent unexpected situation from having unexpected consequences, not to be a magic solution that accommodate for brainless people. In one direction, you can make the judgement call and force the thing down, in the other direction you lose a finger.

gian ,

You’re missing the point of a safety feature. The car shouldn’t, by itself, close the lid if something’s in the way. It should allow the user to push it down, or disable it temporarily, to do so.

I get the safety feature. The point is that here I am saying to the car to close the lid even if something is in the way. I made a conscious decision to do so, and more than one time, so I expect the car to do it. But I agree that it could have been designed in a better way.

The point of a safety feature in any system is to prevent unexpected situation from having unexpected consequences, not to be a magic solution that accommodate for brainless people. In one direction, you can make the judgement call and force the thing down, in the other direction you lose a finger.

Which is exactly what happened here. He made the judgement call to ignore the safety feature (and probably ignored how the feature works)

TheBat ,
@TheBat@lemmy.world avatar

They learnt about consent from Elon.

andros_rex ,

Probably “graduated college” the same way as Elon too

barsquid ,

It that point why not just have some blades slide out on the third try?

catloaf ,

Why bother when the door itself is an effective guillotine?

Chozo ,

He did the test wrong because he's experimenting with "safety" algorithms that the manufacturer has provided little-to-no documentation on and is having to come up with answers on his own. Maybe he wouldn't be "doing it wrong" if Tesla hadn't over-engineered every aspect of their piece of shit truck in the first place. This thing is a solution in search of a problem, and it'll chop your fingers off until it finds it.

NeoNachtwaechter ,

This thing is a solution in search of a problem

Most general question, what is the main purpose of this car? Why should people buy it?

It is a tank.

Steel walls for rich guys who want to protect their asses from masses of poor people around.

What should the door of your tank do if you want to close it, but some bonehead does not move his fingers out, repeatedly?

Now hurry, finally! This rich guy wants to get away from here! BAM!!

ozymandias117 ,

If it increases in pressure every time, I’m now curious how many times you need to close the trunk to cut a finger off

Nepenthe ,
@Nepenthe@kbin.social avatar

That was very nearly my exact same thought. Maybe not for curious children with carrot-sized fingers, but for adults, how convenient! Business competitor's body won't quite fit in your fancy frunk? Just while away on your phone for about 10 minutes, let the cat do its magic, and off go the legs! Travel-sized!

slaacaa ,

He forgot to turn on Finger Safe Mode™️ before closing the trunk

zombieshotgun ,

Well to be fair, that functionality is a pretty pricey add-on.

filister ,

But this feature requires an extra monthly subscription, that wasn’t included with the package of the YouTubers

LiveLM ,

They’re gonna add this in and call it “Jeremy mode”, just like the existing Joe Mode

SexualPolytope ,
@SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

That’s why Apple gave up on designing a car. All of the potential customer base has already been captured by Tesla.

werefreeatlast ,

Well actually it sounds like it ended perfectly?

_sideffect ,

“Data sent to HQ. Thank you for your participation”

cerement ,
@cerement@slrpnk.net avatar

“Cave Johnson here. Fact: the key to any successful cooperative test is trust. And as our data clearly shows, humans, cannot be trusted. The solution? Robots!”

Tick_Dracy ,
@Tick_Dracy@lemm.ee avatar

A man of culture, I see.

RGB3x3 ,

"An update: It turns out the robots learned how to lie and can no longer be trusted. They tried to take over the testing mainframe and I’ll be damned if I let them get their hands on my equipment! So I sent in a couple of interns to take care of it. Go earn those recommendations! I told them.

“Anyway, it’s back to humans. This time new and upgraded with our state-of-the-art Aperture brain chips. The boys out-did themselves this time, increases testing compliance by 150%! Let’s see those humans just try to lie now!”

inclementimmigrant ,

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

Are you kidding me? You did the test wrong on a safety critical feature? No you dumbass engineer, you designed it wrong. Why in the holy fuck would you make a safety critical algorithm keep applying more pressure on subsequent attempts??? That’s literally the opposite of what you do for safety.

EdibleFriend OP ,
@EdibleFriend@lemmy.world avatar

We built it wrong as a joke

SkaveRat ,

Cybertruck owners can have a finger guillotine. as a treat

barsquid ,

Needs a lockout/tagout before putting your hands in the powered shears to get out your bags.

catloaf ,

As if it wouldn’t just close and break off the lockout anyway.

pikmeir ,

How many miles? Would you say, ten million?

Nasan ,

My finger points.

  • Not that cybertruck owner
verity_kindle ,

Gentlemen, you will now refer to me as Betty.

MamboGator ,
@MamboGator@lemmy.world avatar

This is why, as a software developer, I’m against designing any system that assumes what the user wants and tries to do it for them automatically. On the occasions where the assumption is right, it’s a mild convenience at best. When it’s wrong, it is always infuriating if not dangerous.

hersh ,

“Smart” may as well be synonymous with “unpredictable”. I don’t need my computer to be smart. I need it to be predictable, consistent, and undemanding.

inclementimmigrant ,

Yeah, I’m an embedded software developer myself and yeah, when we architect our code we have safety critical sections identified with software safety reviews and we always go with the assumption that we’re going to run into that one guy who’s the living embodiment of Murphy’s law and go from there with that design to minimize the potential for injury and death.

Can’t imagine who the hell is in charge of the software safety reviews there that let that pass.

Killing_Spark ,

You think a company run by Elon has an extensive software safety review system?

BeigeAgenda ,
@BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca avatar

Not anymore they were all fired.

Serinus ,

They did, but Elon asked one of them for a latte and they brought him one with 2% instead of oatmilk so he gutted the whole department.

/s, because it might be to be specified.

barsquid ,

Are you certain you’re wrong, though?

puppy ,

Whose company that sends a poop emoji as a response when the PR department is emailed? Hmm, this us a tough question. . .

best_username_ever ,

Same in the medical devices industry. We have whole teams of non-developers whose job is to find out when and why a surgeon can be a moron. The code is more difficult to write, but it’s way better and more robust.

toofpic ,

“Oh my, the cake box/finger/dog was in the way, but thanks for automation, the door didn’t close!”

rottingleaf ,

And also every additional kind of complexity (which stacks BTW) makes you more dependent on the vendor (good for them, bad for you) and on doing things exactly as their imagined user (because it’s disproportionately your problem as laws don’t seem to work in making it theirs).

Distributism is actually a very good political ideology. Sad it’s associated with Catholic religion, because it correctly generalized the principles making democracies and markets and cultures work.

jonne ,

I wonder if the guy that designed autopilot had the same idea. “So when the car detects resistance up ahead in the form of a crowd or wall, it will accelerate to make sure it goes through!”

ech ,

The engineer told him the frunk increases in pressure every single time it closes and detects resistance, Judkins said. It’s going to assume you want to close the frunk and maybe something like a bag is getting in the way, which would make it close harder.

What the fuck kind of idiots are leading things over there? “Something’s in the way. Better crush it!” What a bunch of morons putting everyone in danger.

Diplomjodler3 ,

Musk seems to be increasingly infecting the whole company with his idiocy.

T00l_shed ,

The sane people were fired or left. I’m sure most of who’s left are either stuck or like to lick elons taint.

barsquid ,

“If it encounters resistance, the brushless motor increases in pressure until it closes fully.” Guess the company:

  1. DeWalt
  2. Milwaukee
  3. Makita
  4. Tesla
nilloc ,

Sounds like a job for the torque test channel.

1984 ,
@1984@lemmy.today avatar

Lols. Tesla logic.

Plopp ,

I know I’m old school and all that, but why do people want to pay for automatically closing doors of any kind? Automatic opening of cargo spaces I get, if you have your bags full of hands or whatever, but once you put the stuff in there… Seem like such an incredibly unnecessary and costly feature, that also have a high chance of failing in the future. I don’t get it.

CerealKiller01 ,

Because taking stuff out is like putting stuff in, only in the reverse order.

toofpic ,

Except when the stuff is in, you have free hands to close doors and hatches

CerealKiller01 ,

I think we’re on two different wavelengths.

Put stuff in: Stand next to closed car with no free hands, could use automatically opening doors.

Take stuff out: Open car. Pick up stuff out of the car. Stand next to open car with no free hands, could use automatically closing doors.

ReveredOxygen ,
@ReveredOxygen@sh.itjust.works avatar

In the case where you took everything out though, there’s no bags for it to get stuck on. There’s no need for it to slam itself

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Good question. My wife’s RAV4 has a rear door that will only close if you press a button. You can’t close it manually. Furthermore, it’s on the door while it’s open and my five foot tall wife can barely reach it. It’s ridiculous.

pendingdeletion ,

Wouldn’t your wife have a hard time closing it manually too then?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You know, that’s true and it didn’t even occur to me. I guess she just wouldn’t have bought it? (I would have been fine with that, I hate SUVs, even hybrids.)

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

On older Toyotas the rear door has a strap inside that hangs down for people to grab onto and pull the door down to close.

jaamesbaxterr ,

We’ve got a 2019 Rav and I can’t remember how, but you can adjust the height that the door opens to by some series of button pushes. We had to lower it so that it doesn’t hit the frame of the garage door when opening it inside the garage. Maybe just adjust it so that it doesn’t open all the way and it’ll be easier for her to reach the button?

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I’ll let her know about that. Thanks.

BaseModelHuman ,

I actually sell these. You can manually lower the door to the height that works comfortably, then hold the automatic door button down for about 3 seconds. That should program the door to a new maximum height.

brbposting ,

How do I set the height on my vehicle’s adjustable power liftgate?

When the liftgate reaches the desired height, push the rear liftgate close-button once (button is located on the doorjamb of the rear liftgate, and only accessible when the liftgate is open). Press and hold the button until it beeps 4 times. Click here to view a video.

😎

kibiz0r ,

My Subaru has a similar setup, and there’s a feature for changing the max height of the tailgate. You might wanna see if the same thing exists for you.

rottingleaf ,

Wow-effect and nobody gets punished if it goes left.

inclementimmigrant ,

Because like you said, it’s a nice to have feature. I like my wife’s auto closing hatch for when I have a handful of boxes for that final grocery run and just walk away and it closes. It’s literally just really nice convenience feature and if it fails, you go back to closing it manually.

Plopp ,

I get it’s nice to have, and if it somehow cost nothing I wouldn’t mind having it in a car, if it’s pretty much guaranteed that when it fails it doesn’t prevent me from open/close manually. But I’d much rather not pay for neither the R&D, engineering, parts and manufacturing of it, only to end up with a more complex door mechanism that is more expensive to repair and more likely to break. When all it does is give me the slightest of conveniences. Best example of this is the motorized charging port lid on the Rivian. Like, whyyyy? Cheaper and longer lasting vehicles, please.

barsquid ,

Why the hell would it close harder if there is something in the way? That’s not the correct behavior for a lid, that’s the correct behavior for powered shears.

rottingleaf ,

Maybe because they want the degradation of some mechanism to be less noticeable over time. And because they’re dumb.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

Tesla Cyber Truk*
*includes free shears with every purchase

gian ,

Never tried to force the closing of your trunk lid because there is a bag that is slightly over the limit and you need a little more pressure, even if the bag is a little pressed down ?

The assumption here is that if it is your finger which is in the way, you take it out the way and you are not that stupid to try to close it again if for some reason you are not able move it away, which to me seems to make a lot of sense.

Maggoty ,

We deliberately made it fail critical. It’s your fault for expecting fail safe!

kokesh ,
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

Must… break… finger… push mooooaaaa. ~Tesla

jaybone ,

The customer is always wrong.

ColeSloth ,

Safety critical? I’d rather have a trunk I can get to close than one I can stick my finger into four times in a row without pinching it. What do you think happens when you slam down a normal trunk on someone’s finger?

inclementimmigrant , (edited )

Hey, @Killing_Spark, found a member of the Tesla software safety team!

ColeSloth ,

Lol. Nah, the trucks are super dumb. I just know I’d want a trunk that would be able to close more than an overly sensitive pressure detection permanently preventing it. For that matter, I think it’s dumb to attach a motor to a trunk.

inclementimmigrant ,

It’s like you didn’t read or did read and didn’t actually comprehend what the article or linked video was actually taking about.

You sure would make a great fit at Tesla’s engineering and safety team.

brbposting ,

Friendly challenge: respond to that user again, in no more words than the first time, but address his question :)

inclementimmigrant ,

No thank you. I refuse to engage with a person trying to straw man and change topics from a software safety argument to a personal preference that goes nowhere but you feel free to engage if you wish.

ColeSloth ,

Maybe you didn’t comprehend it? The close force attempt increases with each unsuccessful attempt at closing. That way seems better than it eventually not working at all a few years down the line as all the electronics get more jankety be cause something gets a bit bent or worn out and it always detects a small amount of resistance so it quits closing all together.

ShepherdPie ,

Nobody wants to discuss the logic involved with having to open the door and then close it again for it to attempt to close harder and why that isn’t the dire safety hazard that people are trying to make it out to be. These people are the reason why we have to have “no smoking” signs at gas pumps because apparently they’d leave their hand in the door after attempting to close it 3 or 4 times.

PrinceWith999Enemies ,

It strikes me as exactly the kind of engineering call that Elon has tended to make, time after time. With zero training in an area, he gets a solution in his head crufted up from some set of pre-existing notions or points of view and then pushes to have them implemented. He will also go on to fire anyone who disagrees with him. I spoke with an engineer who worked on the gull wing doors, which the team had objected to, and not only did he force them through, he burst in on one of the finalization meetings where they had finally reached a design consensus and insisted they change the hinge. Given similar reports on his behavior regarding other products (including especially twitter), I have no reason to disbelieve this person.

froh42 ,

5 year old me after it bounces back from my finger I accidentally put there- agaaaain! agaaain!

And the stupidest of all car owners is not smarter than a 5y old kid.

wirehead ,

Masterful gambit, sir.

Facebones ,

I was just thinking “I feel like this meme was already made” lol

wirehead ,

All things being equal, however, I’d rather they do the version more likely to remove themselves from the gene pool.

harrys_balzac ,

giggle giggle snort

possiblylinux127 ,

The cybertruck is the dumbest tech product and that’s after you compare it to the Vision Pro and AI pin

barsquid ,

It could be a lot better if it were able to get through tough terrains like wet beach sand. Or if the body didn’t rust after touching moisture. Or if it was able to survive a car wash.

Also it would have been neat if they had some automotive professionals working there to tell them that the accelerator pedal needs to come back up when your foot is off it.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Instead, we got…

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/51cf1924-5b0c-422e-a066-552614a55df6.png

Except Homer also runs the company.

Zier ,
@Zier@fedia.io avatar

A Tamagotchi has a better lifespan.

possiblylinux127 ,

Just some minor flaws… For a supposedly high end car. My old Subaru is better for off roading than it is.

jordanlund ,
@jordanlund@lemmy.world avatar

"frunk"ing frunk!

Seriously, did fhe same designer proofread fhis?

subignition ,
@subignition@kbin.social avatar

Front trunk. It's aggravating slang, but it's been in use for decades, well before Tesla.

LunarLoony ,
@LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org avatar

Could combine it with UK terminology and call it a foot

verity_kindle ,

Yeah, VW Beetles had froots before it was cool.

asteriskeverything ,

You know what they say… Don’t stick your finger in crazy

nutsack ,

that car looks like shit

whyNotSquirrel , (edited )
@whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.works avatar

yeah but look like at all the space you have in the trunk! almost two bags

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

I saw my first cybertruck in person the other day. It looks incredibly dumb in promotional photos, but it’s astonishing how much stupider it looks in traffic surrounded by normal vehicles.

nutsack ,

The stupidest thing about it to me is that it’s not really functional as a truck but look at it

ChickenLadyLovesLife ,

I love when owners show off how “practical” that truck bed is - when it has about the same carrying capacity as my roadster’s trunk.

nutsack ,

are owners actually doing this or is it just haters like me saying that they are? I assume they are all getting stuck in sand

secrethat ,

The worst part of the article is them using the term frunk unironically.

Evotech ,

I think frunk is a good word. What would you call a trunk that is in the front of the car.

caseyweederman ,

Frussy

T00l_shed ,

Yes.

Evil_Shrubbery ,

Which indicates the existence of Brussy … somewhere inside the Batmobile …

Fedizen ,

Trussy

anon_8675309 ,

A trunk. There’s nothing about that word that indicates location.

Evotech ,

It’s implied at this point

anon_8675309 ,

No not really. Plenty of rear and mid engine cars have had a trunk up front.

Threeme2189 ,

A Trood or Tronnet for the British folk.

DJDarren ,

Froot, actually, my good man.

Threeme2189 ,

Froot and Fronnet could work. Nice

Lobreeze ,

A normal trunk in the back isn’t a “bunk”.

Why is frunk a good name for the front? It’s silly.

Takumidesh ,

Well traditionally, cars only had one trunk, now it is common that they have two. The need arose to distinguish them, and ‘front trunk’ easily collapses into a nice single syllable portmanteau that makes communication simple and concise; the language evolves and a new word is born.

the_third ,

That’s just a normal word a this point, I’ve seen it in use for years in car tests.

ShortFuse ,

Judkins said that after the finger test, a lead cybertruck engineer at Tesla said he did the video wrong.

rottingleaf ,

“… and if I were you, I would try not to make the same mistake again, mister”.

realitista ,

If you read the article, it’s not a statement with entirely no merit.

The engineers prioritized an algorithm which is far more likely to be useful in real world scenarios where you keep trying to cram a bunch of stuff in the frunk and close it (who hasn’t done this?) rather than the edge case of repeatedly testing it with vegetables until you stick your finger in it.

Anyway, I suppose it’s back to the drawing board.

cooltrainer_frank ,

This is why you keep your safety features consistent. If they want bag close mode, then make it where you hold instead of press a button or something. It “happening automatically” is just unpredictable to most, not magical

SkyeStarfall ,

In addition, what if the person noticed the instructions and then moved them away, and then accidentally got a finger in there? That’s a realistic scenario too.

realitista ,

Fair point.

CaptPretentious , (edited )

There should be no algorithm. It should be done by a human. There are no amount of lines of code I will ever make up for knowing intent and what the current situation is.

If it’s going to be closed by software it needs to prioritize safety 100% of the time. If more pressure is needed and that pressure needs to come from a human.

Zoot ,
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Youre constantly forcing your trunk closed? That doesn’t sound normal to me actually, and sounds like the opposite of what I would want. Hello, groceries, important things, stuff I don’t want stolen so goes in the trunk?

blusterydayve26 ,

I think an algorithm that sounds unprepared to deal with children is insufficient.

AbidanYre ,

That engineer was channeling Steve Jobs.

Dkarma ,

Our truck doesn’t work as advertised but that kids video skills are just shit.

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