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NotJustForMe ,

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that’s better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that’s it. I don’t want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

AVengefulAxolotl ,

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Because 5 bucks a month is making way more money than 50 cents.

mint_tamas ,

If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Probably because of torrenting I would imagine. Being a leech is kind of a dick move if you’re able to seed.

mint_tamas ,

This has nothing to do with torrenting apart from a similar sounding word.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What’s really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.

PrettyLights ,

It has been shown to be more profitable than higher priced ad-free tiers.

hollywoodreporter.com/…/netflix-disney-now-pushin…

I’m bracing for a near future where premium “ad-free” goes away entirely and you have the choice between lots of ads for free and less ads for money.

MaxPow3r11 ,

Capitalism!

It fucking sucks!

sunbeam60 ,

I wouldn’t confuse ownership structure with capitalism. You could have capitalism and coops only.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Uhm, they are getting laid off to increase profit margin, or at the very least so that the CEO can say so at the next shareholder meeting. Do not confuse a workplace with private ownership, that is capitalism.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

They’re getting laid off because there IS NO PROFIT MARGIN.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

That depends on the time frame considered. Short term loss is often used as an excuse to lay people off for long time gains.

EDIT: Purges like these also often target people they want to get rid off, but legally can not otherwise fire. Such as old people.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

From my understanding their long term unprofitable. They were started by venture capital and they’ve operated on venture capital to capture the market.

That’s a big part of how they were able to gain dominance of a market previously dominated by TeamSpeak, Mumble, and Ventrilo with a completely free offering.

They’ve basically been running in loans and now money isn’t free anymore/interest rates mean something again.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, but they also have a huge monopoly on communities that are hard to build up again on new platforms. Especially problematic is that many use it as forums, but all the information is not indexed on search engines, so you have no choice but to have an account and join a community to see what info is available. These communities are going to be held hostage and subjected to tons of anti-features going forward so the capitalists can get return on their investments.

I am not saying every business will give a positive ROI, I am saying many shitty things will be done to assure it. Even if ROI is positive, shitty choices will be made in an attempt to make it higher. That is a result of capitalism.

RandomStickman ,
@RandomStickman@kbin.social avatar

Any alternative you would recommend? I'm mostly using it for video group call for dnd. Although convincing the group to change to yet another program would be the hardest part.

m_randall ,

As far as self hosted I’ve heard a lot about matrix but haven’t tried it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this weekend.

matrix.org

There’s also telegram, slack, etc if you want something else commercial.

Ebsku ,

I’ve convinced few of my friends to use Matrix and it has been a really nice platform and now I prefer it to Discord not only because it respects user privacy but also because it doesn’t have the nitro bs

m_randall ,

That’s great to hear. Somehow everyone and everything is on discord now and I really am not a fan of it what with all the pop ups and flashing shiny things to buy lol.

I’ll try to get my smaller groups on matrix

brian ,

you can run a bridge. I forget that friends are on discord sometimes bc it’s so seamless, and they can’t tell I’m not sending messages from discord either. I do have to use the discord app for voip tho

Ebsku ,

Yeah I still have a lot of friends that just refuse to get off Discord but at least I got a few people to move like I said

m_randall ,

Someone replied to me that you can run a bridge and never even know. I’m definitely trying it out now. Sick of all the nitro ads.

AlteredStateBlob ,
@AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social avatar

Does Matrix have video calls by now?

OsrsNeedsF2P ,

Only if you use Element. Seems like the new Element client is making it even better, but afaik no protocol level support: element.io/…/element-x-now-with-embedded-voip/

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

They are just using an implementation of Jitsi for the time being. Long story short: Yes, but they are still working on it.

rafadavidc ,

The inertia of “what we have works fine” is why I’m still using a lot of things.

CoopaLoopa , (edited )

Microsoft Roblox ripped off Discord and branded it as Guilded GG. Features-wise for audio and game streaming, they offer higher quality than Discord for free.

Is there any chance you’ll get your group of friends to move to “MS Teams for gamers”? anything other than Discord? No chance.

Edited: Correction that Guilded is owned by Roblox, not MS.

fjordbasa , (edited )

Guilded.gg is owned by Roblox, where does Microsoft come into play?

CoopaLoopa ,

Just checked and you’re right. Looks like it was always owned by Roblox.

I must be getting it mixed up with the Teams features they added to the Xbox game bar on windows.

krash ,

Matrix, I’d you want something truly open and respects user privacy.

Cris_Color ,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Not sure if matrix does video calls, so if you’re looking for something additional for that functionality, jitsi may be worth looking into. If I recall correctly its open source

RandomStickman ,
@RandomStickman@kbin.social avatar

Thanks for reminding me of jitsi! I'll see if my group would bite for a matrix and jitsi combo lol

Cris_Color ,
@Cris_Color@lemmy.world avatar

Someone else responded to me saying I wasn’t sure if matrix supports video calls:

“They do, group video calls are implementing Jitsi.”

Integration might make things even easier :)

Best of luck!

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

They do, group video calls are implementing Jitsi.

chitak166 ,

Matrix is to discord as lemmy is to reddit.

The fediverse is the future.

soggy_kitty ,

Host a teamspeak server on a raspberry pi, the sound quality is superior and there’s no stupid feature set you don’t need

crispy_kilt ,

Jitsi

Copernican ,

In this thread: Fuck Discord! Fuck capitalism! No company should lay off 170 people.

In other thread: Fuck Boeing! Fuck capitalism! The company should die along with all 150,000 jobs occupied by their employees.

eskimofry ,

Consistency is the hobgoblin of mindless something… something…

EnderMB ,

Well, looks like I’ll be limiting my use of Discord from now on. I’ve no interest in supporting tech companies that will reduce headcount over admitting fault.

Copernican , (edited )

As someone who works in tech, it doesn’t surprise me. I had a lot of friends get poached 2 years ago with salary increases that shocked me during this blitz on hiring. What surprises me is timing. Some companies recognized the over optimistic forecasting earlier and realized to let folks off a year ago. Some folks are just now getting laid off. I’m. Not sure what led some companies to drag it out vs drop the hammer earlier. Did some see the writing on the wall and choose to cut earlier? Did other folks really try to keep employees hoping things would turn around?

EnderMB ,

While not as bad as last year, there are lots of layoffs across tech again. Google and Amazon have already had multiple rounds in the last two months, alongside a handful of companies that aren’t particularly well-run, like Unity, Duolingo, and now Discord.

sunbeam60 ,

Wait what? Ok, let’s say they “admit fault”; what then? Go under and have to let everybody go?

Be reasonable.

ryannathans ,

Definitely not getting linux video streaming now

chitak166 ,

OBS + Virtual Camera

In typical Linux fashion, you need to install additional bullshit to get basic functionality: obsproject.com/…/obs-virtual-cam-on-linux.134849/

In this case, it’s the ever-popular “v4l2loopback-dkms”. Should be available in your repositories.

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Discord is laying off 17 percent of its staff, a move that CEO Jason Citron said is meant to “sharpen our focus and improve the way we work together to bring more agility to our organization.”

Based on Citron’s message to employees and my understanding of the business, Discord isn’t in dire financial straits, though it has yet to become profitable and is still trying to revive user growth after a surge during the pandemic.

In his memo to employees, which you can read in full below, Citron said Discord grew its headcount too fast over the last few years — an admission that has become quite common among tech CEOs as of late.

These cuts are Discord’s largest to date after the messaging app laid off 4 percent of staff last August.

They add to the layoffs that continue to sweep across the tech industry, including deep cuts at Google and Amazon just this week.

The company has been contemplating going public since it turned down a $12 billion acquisition offer from Microsoft in 2021, though I’m told it’s nowhere near close to doing so.

The original article contains 289 words, the summary contains 186 words. Saved 36%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

tory ,

Shocked that discord employed 1k people tbh.

vsh ,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

All were linux devs /s

testeronious OP ,

haha, I wish they had 17% of their workforce as linux devs

labbbb ,

I use Matrix already 3 years now

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

I’d look for something else but it’s not as if my friends are there. Yay vendor lock-in !

Lightrider ,

Fuckingcapitalists

BlanK0 ,

Shill element and we wouldn’t need to be in this situation people 😮‍💨

moon ,

I love Element and it’s absolutely my platform of choice, but it’s years out until it can be considered a Discord competitor.

moon ,

Can they lay off the infinite data they hoard with no option to mass delete as well?

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