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NotJustForMe ,

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that’s better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that’s it. I don’t want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

AVengefulAxolotl ,

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Because 5 bucks a month is making way more money than 50 cents.

mint_tamas ,

If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Probably because of torrenting I would imagine. Being a leech is kind of a dick move if you’re able to seed.

mint_tamas ,

This has nothing to do with torrenting apart from a similar sounding word.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What’s really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.

PrettyLights ,

It has been shown to be more profitable than higher priced ad-free tiers.

hollywoodreporter.com/…/netflix-disney-now-pushin…

I’m bracing for a near future where premium “ad-free” goes away entirely and you have the choice between lots of ads for free and less ads for money.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

That will cause some discord

MaxPow3r11 ,

Capitalism!

It fucking sucks!

sunbeam60 ,

I wouldn’t confuse ownership structure with capitalism. You could have capitalism and coops only.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Uhm, they are getting laid off to increase profit margin, or at the very least so that the CEO can say so at the next shareholder meeting. Do not confuse a workplace with private ownership, that is capitalism.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

They’re getting laid off because there IS NO PROFIT MARGIN.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

That depends on the time frame considered. Short term loss is often used as an excuse to lay people off for long time gains.

EDIT: Purges like these also often target people they want to get rid off, but legally can not otherwise fire. Such as old people.

Dark_Arc ,
@Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg avatar

From my understanding their long term unprofitable. They were started by venture capital and they’ve operated on venture capital to capture the market.

That’s a big part of how they were able to gain dominance of a market previously dominated by TeamSpeak, Mumble, and Ventrilo with a completely free offering.

They’ve basically been running in loans and now money isn’t free anymore/interest rates mean something again.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Yes, but they also have a huge monopoly on communities that are hard to build up again on new platforms. Especially problematic is that many use it as forums, but all the information is not indexed on search engines, so you have no choice but to have an account and join a community to see what info is available. These communities are going to be held hostage and subjected to tons of anti-features going forward so the capitalists can get return on their investments.

I am not saying every business will give a positive ROI, I am saying many shitty things will be done to assure it. Even if ROI is positive, shitty choices will be made in an attempt to make it higher. That is a result of capitalism.

Fedizen ,

A wave of enshittification has struck Discord

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

Sorry to say it, but it has always sucked.

platypus_plumba ,

My stress levels skyrocket whenever I’m using Discord. The quality of the voice is nice but having to constantly reconfigure the settings to make it work fine and the unintuitive UI stresses me out.

Urist ,
@Urist@lemmy.ml avatar

I have basically disabled all input settings in the app and configure the input before it reaches Discord for consistency. Still it sometimes messes up things amazingly.

webhead ,
@webhead@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah I use the Steelseries sonar stuff because that makes it so that inputs never change. When my headset turns off it redirects the output to my speakers and when I turn the headset back on, it goes back to it. Virtual audio devices are very nice in general lol.

AlecSadler ,

Absolutely. For some crazy-ass reason my job transitioned away from Teams (I get it) and Slack and to Discord.

Discord is garbage for this type of work environment. Maybe it works for some? But it just doesn’t make sense.

Appoxo ,

lmao.
Discord is surely very good for work-related trade secrets

mint_tamas ,

My company has been using Discord for work and at first I was excited to try it (coming from Slack companies), but I had to realize that it’s very unfit for work. The only thing that’s better is the visibility of threads. We are moving to Slack now, thankfully.

snek ,
@snek@lemmy.world avatar

I used Discord for work and it was great for voice channels. We used slack for channels where we needed to share text and images, worked quite well. Main problem was that many people at the company were not really from the internet in the sense that they had no Discord etiquette whatsoever.

chitak166 ,

Nah. What sucked was having to type in IP addresses just to talk on voice.

EnderMB ,

Well, looks like I’ll be limiting my use of Discord from now on. I’ve no interest in supporting tech companies that will reduce headcount over admitting fault.

Copernican , (edited )

As someone who works in tech, it doesn’t surprise me. I had a lot of friends get poached 2 years ago with salary increases that shocked me during this blitz on hiring. What surprises me is timing. Some companies recognized the over optimistic forecasting earlier and realized to let folks off a year ago. Some folks are just now getting laid off. I’m. Not sure what led some companies to drag it out vs drop the hammer earlier. Did some see the writing on the wall and choose to cut earlier? Did other folks really try to keep employees hoping things would turn around?

EnderMB ,

While not as bad as last year, there are lots of layoffs across tech again. Google and Amazon have already had multiple rounds in the last two months, alongside a handful of companies that aren’t particularly well-run, like Unity, Duolingo, and now Discord.

sunbeam60 ,

Wait what? Ok, let’s say they “admit fault”; what then? Go under and have to let everybody go?

Be reasonable.

PanArab ,

Right after they ruined the app’s UI?

Maximilious ,
@Maximilious@kbin.social avatar

Mobile UI is atrocious after the recent upgrade a couple months ago. Wish I could go back.

Shihali ,

Leave a bad review. I did get halfway back.

Coreidan ,

That’ll teach em!

FeelThePower ,

you can download an old APK on Android, or sideload on iOS. I have one with the early 2023 layout and one with the pre-2021 layout just because. none with the new update

blueson ,

Download an APK of an older version and disable auto-updates.

The API still works well so the old client doesn’t have any issues.

SuperSpruce ,

Y’know, they were going crazy over the top implementing unnecessary features… Maybe they actually did have too many employees doing useless things, but they should’ve instead had those employees focus on performance instead

lazynooblet ,
@lazynooblet@lazysoci.al avatar

Probably trying everything they could to get more $$$ but it didn’t work out so… bye.

corsicanguppy ,

You think you could put “improved performance and fixed bugs” on the brochure but if it’s not something with ~A.I. then it’s not gonna help sales.

sunbeam60 ,

You hit the nail on the head.

I see this so many places - nobody asks “how big does this company need to be”? This is the problem with public companies - they are caught in an endless growth trap. Private businesses at least get to a point where a) growth has to happen sustainably because often there isn’t endless money available to invest and b) once you’ve got one private jet, as owners, do you really need another?

Reddit was no different. Maybe it would have been better for us all if it was a much smaller team and just careful tendered like a garden that had filled its plot.

Copernican ,

But isn’t Reddit still private?

sunbeam60 ,

Well yeah, but we both know they are behaving like a company heading for an attempted IPO.

Copernican ,

But that’s why I don’t think the private vs public company distinction is what matters. When it comes to private, there’s a whole class of private equity owned companies that some people won’t even consider working at because of the reputation their cost cutting and flip mentality is. It’s not a black and white private good public bad because only one has public share holders and exchanges.

sunbeam60 ,

It’s definitely not as simple as my quick comment on Lemmy pretends, agreed.

NotJustForMe ,

The one writing the change-logs should stay though. Hilarious.

But yeah, featureitis usually comes from employees sitting on their hands. I mean, I keep telling myself, just because I only use two features, doesn’t mean everybody else does… But I strongly feel that nobody really does. Chat, video, voice, done.

ryannathans ,

Definitely not getting linux video streaming now

chitak166 ,

OBS + Virtual Camera

In typical Linux fashion, you need to install additional bullshit to get basic functionality: obsproject.com/…/obs-virtual-cam-on-linux.134849/

In this case, it’s the ever-popular “v4l2loopback-dkms”. Should be available in your repositories.

DoomBot5 ,

Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.

People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore

Large company: we’re laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn’t make us enough money.

People: good, your product sucked anyways

Chobbes ,

I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.

GlitzyArmrest ,
@GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world avatar

But no execs, I assume.

mp3 ,
@mp3@lemmy.ca avatar

At least not without a golden parachute.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

Here is your reward for fucking up

Gork ,

The execs I know yell at people. They somehow get rewarded for having temper tantrums.

murmelade ,

I hope it’s the Nitro bros.

homesweethomeMrL ,

Tech CEOs: we need better numbers. Fire a bunch of people! Ahh there we go. Now we’re flush with cash. Well, my work here is done.

someguy3 , (edited )

And gut the r&d budget. That’s future CEO’s problem.

superduperenigma ,

Now where’s my golden parachute?

CosmicTurtle ,

The Jack Welsh way…

That guy is literally, not figuratively, responsible for most of the shitty things that companies do now.

tabular ,
@tabular@lemmy.world avatar

I’d look for something else but it’s not as if my friends are there. Yay vendor lock-in !

Lightrider ,

Fuckingcapitalists

autotldr Bot ,

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Discord is laying off 17 percent of its staff, a move that CEO Jason Citron said is meant to “sharpen our focus and improve the way we work together to bring more agility to our organization.”

Based on Citron’s message to employees and my understanding of the business, Discord isn’t in dire financial straits, though it has yet to become profitable and is still trying to revive user growth after a surge during the pandemic.

In his memo to employees, which you can read in full below, Citron said Discord grew its headcount too fast over the last few years — an admission that has become quite common among tech CEOs as of late.

These cuts are Discord’s largest to date after the messaging app laid off 4 percent of staff last August.

They add to the layoffs that continue to sweep across the tech industry, including deep cuts at Google and Amazon just this week.

The company has been contemplating going public since it turned down a $12 billion acquisition offer from Microsoft in 2021, though I’m told it’s nowhere near close to doing so.

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