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moon ,

Can they lay off the infinite data they hoard with no option to mass delete as well?

tory ,

Shocked that discord employed 1k people tbh.

BlanK0 ,

Shill element and we wouldn’t need to be in this situation people 😮‍💨

moon ,

I love Element and it’s absolutely my platform of choice, but it’s years out until it can be considered a Discord competitor.

vsh ,
@vsh@lemm.ee avatar

All were linux devs /s

testeronious OP ,

haha, I wish they had 17% of their workforce as linux devs

labbbb ,

I use Matrix already 3 years now

Potfarmer ,

Discord went the way of Skype, it’s just a bloated fustercluck now. I don’t use it often, just once a month or so to keep up with a group of old friends, and every time I fire it up it has a new update bringing features I don’t give a rats ass about.

SocialMediaRefugee ,

That will cause some discord

MonkderZweite ,

Now how to move the gaming community to Matrix or XMPP.

Sylvartas ,

You don’t. Gamers, are generally happy to bow to their corporate overlords for some reason.

Source: am a gamer. And I admit I do put up with some of that bullshit too.

Tangent5280 ,

I think that behaviour pattern has it’s roots in the perceived dominance of Microsoft windows in the gaming sphere - we can fix that by encouraging people to game with linux.

Sylvartas ,

Yeah I was thinking about exactly that when writing this comment. Windows is one of these things I’m currently putting up with.

I’m planning on building a new PC though, and since I love my steam deck I’m wondering if I should try going full Linux with this one.

saintshenanigans ,

Would love to if my favorite games weren’t all EAC locked on linux

Emerald ,

I just don’t run spyware

Draedron ,

Why? Discord is still as functional as ever. Why would I move platform?

MonkderZweite ,

Because it locks you out from even seeing the mods and stuff if you don’t have an account. Old time forums were better.

FlavoredButtHair ,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

So the nitro subscription is gonna up to increase profits?

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

They’re going to dedicate their entire next year’s budget to introduce a new kind of emoji, though.

FlavoredButtHair ,
@FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world avatar

Gotta have all the new DLC/cosmetic stuff.

dylanTheDeveloper ,
@dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

🫄

jaykay ,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

Before you do that, can you fix screen sharing on Linux?

danielf ,

I haven’t used Discord in a while so YMMV but I used to use WebCord and screen sharing worked pretty well IIRC. It uses an up-to-date Electron version which has better support for modern desktop Linux protocols. There are probably plenty of other alternative clients that just repackage the web app with better Linux support. There’s also gtkcord4 which is a native Gtk client, though definitely not as polished as the official client.

jaykay ,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

It does support it, but not the audio :/

Blisterexe ,

Try vesktop!

jaykay ,
@jaykay@lemmy.zip avatar

Oh wow, it actually works! Thanks! But there are issues with EasyEffects (it’s being worked on) and low framerates during streaming (also being worked on). But it does work

Telodzrum ,

Man I know Wayland is the future, I just wish the future was better.

inb4_FoundTheVegan ,
@inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world avatar

To be clear, I’m not defeneding this pratice but explaining it. This cycle is how large businesses operate to foster growth over time.

  • Lay off people to tell stock holders they are becoming more efficient.
  • wait
  • Hiring spree, announce new features, new directions, hype hype hype
  • wait
  • Lay offs! Trimming overhead! Streamlining! Much efficency! Good business!
  • wait
  • Hyyyyyyype! Discord announces a plan to replace iMessage, Email and the entire concept of texting! Triples their staff! Such hype!

Rinse, repeat

It’s horrific for the employees and a scathing indictment as capitalism as a whole. But, this is how large businesses work, not nessecarily a massive corporate slip up.

Here is a lawyer explaining the “dance steps” that the game industries is doing as of late.

danielbln ,

That may have been true during the lavish times of ZIRP, but I wouldn’t expect to see this dance any longer, at least until money is cheap/free again.

Jyek ,

Money is always cheap for capitalists. Even the hardest of times is only hard for people without money.

nbafantest ,

This shows a complete misunderstanding of cheap money

Reddfugee42 ,

UNIONIZE

BlanK0 ,

Damn, this was very insightful. Thx for sharing!!! 😁

NotJustForMe ,

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that’s better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that’s it. I don’t want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

AVengefulAxolotl ,

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

Nobsi ,
@Nobsi@feddit.de avatar

Because 5 bucks a month is making way more money than 50 cents.

mint_tamas ,

If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.

Riven ,
@Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Probably because of torrenting I would imagine. Being a leech is kind of a dick move if you’re able to seed.

mint_tamas ,

This has nothing to do with torrenting apart from a similar sounding word.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What’s really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.

PrettyLights ,

It has been shown to be more profitable than higher priced ad-free tiers.

hollywoodreporter.com/…/netflix-disney-now-pushin…

I’m bracing for a near future where premium “ad-free” goes away entirely and you have the choice between lots of ads for free and less ads for money.

Zoidberg ,

Unity, Google, Discord. All within a day or two of each other.

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired. Those employees didn’t hire themselves. Someone came up with the idea.

If companies don’t do this they’re not attacking the root of the problem.

CosmicCleric ,
@CosmicCleric@lemmy.world avatar

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired.

You’re expecting Morlocks to feast on each other, instead of feasting on the Eloi.

neclimdul ,

Also twitch. Yuck…

Probably some great devs on the market for anyone hiring though.

pologreem ,

Yeah, no

All devs must go through at least a year of unemployment according to these mofos

interdimensionalmeme ,

They coordinate to create a glut and push all their wages down. Computer touching wagies and so socially stunted they’ll never form effective union. If they did, they would jusy defect out of greed.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Computer touching wagies and so socially stunted they’ll never form effective union.

The industry is so niche, the technology is so heavily customized, and the people so idiosyncratic that I think forming a union shouldn’t be that hard. The real dampener is that the pay for these jobs is always far above the median. Five years of experience and you’re reaching towards six figures. Ten years and you’re well over the line. And in Silicon Valley, the sky is the limit. A master’s or phd in your field means you’re looking at $200k, $300k, $400k…

If there’s a big drop in wages (and considering the real estate prices in the neighborhoods where these businesses exist) something’s got to give. Maybe you get unions. Maybe you just get a bunch of businesses collapsing on themselves Twitter-style and forcing people back into the “indie company-in-my-garage” model. Maybe everyone becomes contractors.

But this isn’t sustainable in any serious sense.

interdimensionalmeme ,

and considering the real estate prices in the neighborhoods where these businesses exist) something’s got to give. M

I work in aerospace, we got unions back in the 70s and never let them go. For what the job actually is, it pays pretty good.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Aerospace pay is good, but it used to be a whole lot better. The salaries definitely haven’t kept up with executive pay, even if they’re multiples of the regional average. I’ve got a friend who went into aerospace and bemoans how he’s living solidly middle class in a field that used to put you squarely into the top 5% income bracket. Funny to see someone complain about earning a quarter million a year, but when buying a starter home costs twice that…

interdimensionalmeme ,

Oh I make 3 times less than that. But I slack off in a proportionnal manner !

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Plenty of slackers in the aerospace industry. Don’t let that hold you back.

interdimensionalmeme ,

I will be the slackiest of them all !

moon ,

Programmers are already ridiculously overpaid lol

Hyperlon ,

Year end business review

ipkpjersi ,

Bold of you to think that the VP level employees don’t get big raises in exchange for laying empoyees off.

Copernican , (edited )

I think it’s an unfair and naive assumption to think VPs all keep their jobs. I’ve seen some pretty nasty game of thrones plays by executive leadership during layoffs due to consolidation of teams and remits. Someone might get a bonus that doesn’t deserve it, but someone is going to get let go at a high level (albeit with a generous severance not offered to the rest of the employees).

Also, when new senior leadership comes in, it’s not uncommon for them to let heads roll at the leadership level to fill out the team with folks they know or trust. I’m not shedding a tear about where those folks will go on to find similar employment, but I think there’s a misconception about how safe those positions actually are.

ipkpjersi ,

I guess I’m jaded because I’ve seen far too many times where it’s the worker bees, the people who actually put the work in and get things done, getting the sharp end of the stick. I would be surprised if the 17% of employees Discord laid off actually included VPs.

Copernican ,

I hear you. You are going to see a lot more worker bees than VPs laid off in part because there’s a lot more worker bees than VPs.

per sfgate.com/…/discord-layoffs-citron-overhiring-ga…

The notice, required when companies perform mass layoffs, said the employees would officially leave Discord on Feb. 2. Dozens of engineers are among the casualties, as are several trust and safety employees, product managers and data scientists, according to the notice.

Depending on how the structure is laid out and what product areas were cut, I’m guessing up to the director level would be impacted.

DoomBot5 ,

Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.

People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore

Large company: we’re laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn’t make us enough money.

People: good, your product sucked anyways

Chobbes ,

I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.

Copernican ,

In this thread: Fuck Discord! Fuck capitalism! No company should lay off 170 people.

In other thread: Fuck Boeing! Fuck capitalism! The company should die along with all 150,000 jobs occupied by their employees.

eskimofry ,

Consistency is the hobgoblin of mindless something… something…

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