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probableprotogen , in Old timers know

FTP and rsync my beloved

doingthestuff , in Such a pain in the sas

Always turn it off and on again. Then check cable and physical connections, then start the real troubleshooting. I have fixed over a thousand computers as a hobby. So I’m no pro, but I know that much.

qaz OP ,

I have rebooted it more than 10 times, and have checked literally every other connection but somehow forgot to check the actual SAS cable.

Kedly , in Old timers know

I am currently updating a minecraft server soooooo

AVincentInSpace ,

if your hosting provider 1) is not yourself and 2) requires you to use anything like filezilla, get a new hosting provider

shikogo ,

Why?

AVincentInSpace ,

Unless you’re using Linode or something other general purpose VPS which you have installed a Minecraft server onto, having to use anything other than a WebUI to exchange files with the server really strikes me as sketchy. A dedicated can’t-run-anything-else Minecraft hosting provider even giving random users SSH access is sketchy enough but requiring you to use it to update the game… that level of not having an IT guy is just a security nightmare waiting to happen.

Guessing by your comment that you’ve actually rented a general purpose Linux VPS and not gotten suckered into Honest Pete’s Discount CreeperHost. In that case, carry on.

shikogo ,

The last time I’ve rented a Minecraft server was probably over 10 years ago, and as far as I can tell, at the time having to upload stuff through ftp was normal.

Although reading this thread has also taught me that I know nothing about how deployment works and I need to catch up on that.

Kedly ,

Tbf I think BisectHost now lets me just upload normally, but I’m so used to using Filezilla I’m doing so out of habit.

AVincentInSpace ,

That’s fair actually. I was more worried about Minecraft hosts that allow you to upload your own game executable (which I sincerely hope don’t exist)

roguetrick , in Hot Potato License

A self revoking license. You can only use or distribute this software if you’ve made the last commit.

mindbleach , in Daniel Suelo already did that

Why, in the name of god, does Lemmy’s obsession with censorship include the word “jerk?”

KomfortablesKissen ,

Gotta keep the language advertiser friendly.

FlorianSimon ,

Which advertiser are you talking about? 😵‍💫

KomfortablesKissen ,

That’s the joke ^^

But it also shows the influence of watching YouTube|TikTok|Other Streamers that ARE using advertiser friendly language.

dullbananas OP , (edited )
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

It’s my personal choice. I want to be able to show the content of my posts and comments to anyone (edit: not only adults or unsupervised peers).

mindbleach ,

It’s bullshit and you should stop.

It’s a pattern of destroying information over puritanical nonsense. Treat people like adults.

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

But muh freedom

mindbleach ,

Nobody’s stopping you.

You should stop.

This is not a contradiction.

sukhmel ,

That’s deeper than it seems

FlorianSimon ,

It’s not about freedoms. Your self-censorship is wasting everyone’s time, because we need to decipher what you meant.

This was not supposed to be a fucking riddle.

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

Ignorance of Daniel Suelo is ignorance of Daniel Suelo.

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

These comments alone prove that some people are not adults.

mindbleach ,

Infantalizing people for their own good --> infantalizing people as an insult.

More behavior you need to cut the fuck out.

isVeryLoud ,

Agreed, I don’t come to Lemmy to be treated like a child.

thesmokingman ,

I can’t find this being a problem. What circles do you move in where “jerk” is a problematic word?

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

The whole thing after “programming” is the problem. I can’t remember why I didn’t censor the whole word.

FlorianSimon ,

Your self-censorship actually makes your already bad meme even worse because it’s incomprehensible.

But sure, it’s your right.

expr ,

Pretty dumb, honestly. If anything it just adds a Streisand effect to it as people try to figure out what’s censored.

Not that censoring it has any value whatsoever. Like if a child sees that, so fucking what?

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

If I included cussing in “[YTP] Intoducing Apple Pro”, then I wouldn’t have been able to show it in my self introduction presentation in a high school class. I can’t guarantee that cleanness wouldn’t have a similar benefit for this meme.

lseif ,

dont listen to the others. u are free to censor your own content; it is still completely readable. people just want to complain about something.

dullbananas OP ,
@dullbananas@lemmy.ca avatar

Another r*ctangle lover 🤮 /s

AnarchoSnowPlow , in Such a pain in the sas

“the serial output from my test unit turns into garbage and it happens at completely random times!”

“Did you make sure they were plugged in all the way?”

“WHAT?!?! ARE YOU SUGGESTING I DON’T KNOW WHAT I’M DOING?!?!”

Some time later

“Yeah, it turned out to be the serial connection was loose.”

bitfucker ,

It is worse in HW prototyping where sometimes loose wire is all over the place

AnarchoSnowPlow ,

“Where does this green wire go?”

I appreciate HW engineers and techs. I’m not afraid of datasheets, circuit diagrams, or a mso and they’re always patient enough to explain things to me so I can make the rocks behave. Or at least tell me how to go from diagram to board lol.

neo , in Such a pain in the sas

“Is your computer connected to a power outlet? Yes? Could you please unplug it and plug it back in for me?”

marcos ,

It’s a much larger problem when there are several different cables.

BlueMagma ,

Also: please check the other end of the cable, the one that isn’t plug in the wall, yes that one, plugged on the screen, unplug and plug it back in please.

JoMiran , in Such a pain in the sas
@JoMiran@lemmy.ml avatar

Me: *PTSD’s in SCSI chain

RizzRustbolt ,

So many dongle failures, and so many sprung tension latches.

VisualBuilder4 , in Such a pain in the sas

That sounds like a classical OSI layer 0 problem.

Album ,
@Album@lemmy.ca avatar

Layer 8!

30p87 ,

Layer 40320

Norgur , in Such a pain in the sas
@Norgur@fedia.io avatar

I'd rather troubleshoot for days than try to reboot or check cables.

Doombot1 , in Such a pain in the sas

As someone that works writing firmware for SAS devices… it’s happened all too many times

onlinepersona , in Such a pain in the sas

Happens to the best of us🤣

I spent what felt like an eternity debugging a website because it wasn’t updating. You gussed it, I was looking the build output of webpak in the wrong folder.

Anti Commercial-AI license

FiniteBanjo , in It's called attaining divinity

I dislike the hatespeech frog tbh

almost1337 ,

I’m pretty sure Pepe was only temporarily coopted by the far rights, and has since been reclaimed.

FiniteBanjo ,

I didn’t ask and I don’t care. If people reclaimed the Swastika tomorrow but it continues to be used by trumpets and alt-right, then I sure as hell won’t start accepting it.

We don’t need it. It isn’t necessary. Let it go.

nephs ,

Have you met lemmygrad.ml?

FiniteBanjo ,

What about them?

nephs ,

You don’t have to explain why fascist symbols are bad, there. You might find most lemmygraders to be pretty reasonable.

FiniteBanjo ,

Lmfao, go suck Putin’s/Jinping’s dick elsewhere.

nephs ,

So are you saying nazi leadership in Ukraine isn’t nazi?

And all nazi symbols they use in their military isn’t nazi?

You’re confusing.

FiniteBanjo ,

There it is! Tankies are so “reasonable” being aligned with authoritarian warmongers. Idk why you proclaim to be so against nazis when you share so much of your ideology with them.

nephs ,

You acknowledge pepe the frog as an alt right fascist symbol on Internet memes. But when armed forces in Ukraine use SS and black sun on their garment, you think it’s fine. Did west reclaim swastika and other nazi symbols, then?

triplenadir ,
@triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml avatar

mournfully flipping the counter back to “0” on the “it has been X days since a turbolib said something deeply homophobic” sign

FiniteBanjo ,

What’s homophobic about calling you morons submissives for dictators?

nephs ,

At which point did I defend Putin or Xi in this conversation? I used the same argument as you did to argue that there’s Nazi sympathetic fighters in the Ukrainian armed forces.

Would you defend soldiers fighting side by side Nazi symbols?

FiniteBanjo ,

So are you saying nazi leadership in Ukraine isn’t nazi?

As you clearly appear to be unaware, Ukraine is not under “Nazi Leadership.” That’s something you were told in order to justify Russia’s attempts to conquer them for their resources and expand their own borders just as they have in the past.

nephs ,

Guilty of making use of hyperbole, whoah.

Now. Ukrainian military, its puppet leadership and its NATO allies are pretty accepting of fighting side by side, and providing weapons to Nazi sympathetic fighters.

edition.cnn.com/2024/06/12/europe/…/index.html

Apparently CNN is now part of Russian propaganda?

FiniteBanjo ,

From the article you just posted:

The battalion has said it repeatedly denies “allegations of fascism, nazism and racism,” in response to claims it had associations with White supremacists and neo-Nazi ideology.

The US State Department said Tuesday that Russian disinformation “has actively worked to discredit” the unit. “They have long tried to conflate Ukraine’s National Guard Unit of 12th Special Forces Brigade Azov with a militia formed to defend Ukraine against Russia’s invasion in 2014, called the “Azov Battalion,” a State Department spokesperson said. “That militia disbanded in 2015 and the Special Forces Brigade Azov is unrelated to that militia.”

And at the mere notion that they might have been involved in those activities, the US State department had cut their funding eligibility until it could be certain otherwise. It’s like you wanted to be proven misinformed when you posted this.

nephs , (edited )

Ok, so you’re saying that having them wearing those Nazi badges is fine because the imperialist state department from the country that hired a non negligible number of Nazis after the Germans capitulated said the nazi patch wearing azov combatants are not doing anything wrong?

And at the same time, using pepe the frog online is clearly alt-right?

Just like you believe when the US state department say Israel is doing nothing against human rights in Palestine?

You look very confused, in my opinion.

barsoap ,

Azov has gotten completely diluted by a gigantic influx of ordinary people, its hardcore Nazi times were over before they were even rolled into Ukraine’s overall command structure which came along with some more denazification. The Wolfsangel isn’t recognised as a far-right symbol in Ukraine by the general public so they kept it. It’s also not a clear-cut Nazi symbol even in Germany, you see it on plenty of coat of arms, it also has plenty of use in forestry which is its original source: You hang it with bait onto a branch to kill wolves in a rather gruesome manner. That’s outlawed nowadays but you still see it on border forestry border stones, to mark wood, etc. The heraldic use derives from that, it symbolises presence or importance of forestry in the area the coat of arm represents. Not much forest around the Azov sea, though.

Those are not the Nazis you’re looking for. If you want to see, well not exactly nazis but the hot-bed of ultranationalists in the Ukrainian army have a look at the right sector regiment. Dylan Burns did an interview.

Next up: Someone’s going to claim that the Ukrainian army uses the “Iron Cross”. First off, the Bundeswehr still uses it, secondly, no the Ukrainians don’t use it you’re looking at the Cossack Cross, derived independently from the Templar Cross, unlike the Iron Cross not via the Teutonic Order. They’ve been using that thing for centuries.

EDIT: Oh wait I just remembered I’m completely banned from lemmygrad they won’t see this. Well, whatever.

Shampiss ,

An icon represents what the people think it represents.

An icon can also have different meanings to different people. It’s ok if you don’t like it. But I don’t think it’s fair to say that the majority of people that use or share Pepe are from one specific ideological group

FiniteBanjo ,

Myself and a great many people associate it with hate speech and you’re continuing to use it regardless. That tells more about you than me.

Jax ,

I’m just gonna go ahead and say ratio’d. And yes, I’ve read all of the discourse ITT.

FiniteBanjo ,

Honestly I expected the ratio to be worse given the context of the post. People generally don’t like having harsh reality pointed out on their funny meme images.

ProgrammingSocks ,

Lmao buddy your meme policing isn’t “harsh reality” it’s useless slacktivism.

almost1337 ,

Almost every meme template has been used to make alt-right nonsense, do we just abandon any symbol they pick up for their misdeeds? Or do we push back and refuse to allow them that kind of control over our culture?

FiniteBanjo ,

Very few and far between were exclusive to the right. Pepe was. It started as theirs and continued to be theirs for a long time, in my opinion still continues to be theirs. You few fighting for the symbol’s continued use in good faith (if you are) are not the majority.

caseyweederman ,

It certainly did not start as theirs.

FiniteBanjo ,

It started as a french cartoon and got coopted into the feelsbadman meme format in 2009 and then skyrocketed in popularity and mainstream use in 2015-2016 by pro-trump conservatives.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/bfe30768-8bb8-48a8-86c4-d6412ceacb5a.png

Even if it were present in every single greentext like some sort of bizarre requirement, it still would have more use by nazis and propogandists than anyone else.

https://lemmy.today/pictrs/image/e20c9dd6-aab1-419e-a32b-292ad7e7115d.jpeg

caseyweederman ,

I understand. It is inaccurate to say it started as a far-right icon.

kewjo ,

the swastika was originally a religious icon used and still used in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jianism, i wouldn’t consider them Nazis… Context matters

FiniteBanjo ,

Imagine unironically saying we should normalize nazi swastikas. If that’s not what it takes for you to reevaluate your stance, then you’re a lost cause.

kewjo ,

the symbol predates Germany, initial findings date it back to 3300-1300 BC. you’re telling me all historical religious symbols in Asian countries should wiped of the icon because of Nazis misappropriating their symbol? you would literally deface ancient sites that predate nazis by thousands of years because you can only see it as a symbol of hate?

you can use context clues such as actual hate speech, nazi slogans and genocide to distinguish those that are actually racist. the whole point of nazism is to erase culture and replace it with only the “one true race”. by allowing nazis and white supremacists to appropriate symbols you’re actively giving them power.

FiniteBanjo ,

So then, you think Nazi Swastikas without context should be allowed without any repercussions. I saw your first comment, I don’t see why you think using more words to say the same thing would make it any different.

Here are some questions: How does punishing nazis for using symbols of hate and intolerance empower them? How does allowing them to do so freely harm them in contrast?

You do not need to use a nazi swastika. A world where they are not allowed in public is a world where people feel safe and comfortable. Just as you do not need to use the frog. The frog is unimportant and only continues to exist because people like you fight for it.

kewjo ,

literally my first comment said context matters. if you see an image with hate speech maybe its the speech that you should pay attention to.

FiniteBanjo ,

Yes, again, I’ve read your comments and understood them. Maybe you’re the one having comprehension troubles, here?

I don’t see how this comment in any way argues against any of my statements. You either never disagreed with me to begin with about swastikas being bannable outside of specific religious contexts, or you want contextless hate speech to be allowed as a blanket rule. There is no in-between.

kewjo ,

is English your first language because you either don’t understand what I’m saying or you are too ignorant to understand.

swastikas being bannable outside of specific religious contexts

that’s literally what i said. the context around the symbol is what is important. no one in south west asia sees a swastika and think Nazis because it’s part of the religious culture. just as no one sees Pepe and thinks nazis because no one normal participated in that shit subculture of 4chan except Nazis.

Let’s actually look at what happened with Pepe, he was created by an artist then appropriated by Nazis. The artist then posted that he was outraged and disappointed that it was taken over by Nazis. people listened and were also outraged and did everything to normalize and take it back from the Nazis, because again it wasn’t theirs to take in the first place. now you imagine the 12 year old posting it are nazis when they have no context of any of the events your talking about. go touch grass, your brain is rotting.

Ziglin ,

We should turn their name into an extreme political symbol symbol on the opposite side of their political spectrum. That way they’ll know that they’re also evil because they use that evil symbol.

kewjo ,

right? imagine some one came for Calvin and Hobbes. don’t come for my cartoons, the one pure thing in this world

FiniteBanjo ,

You threatening to post hatespeech to prove me wrong about pepe belonging to people who commit hatespeech is certainly an interesting play.

FiniteBanjo ,

How can you sit there and understand that Swastikas are not acceptable and belong to fascist racial supremacists, while also have the understanding that it is used acceptably by religions from the east, but not understand how pepe can belong to the alt-right? You’re holding opposing views, it’s like you’re just here to argue.

barsoap ,

So then, you think Nazi Swastikas without context should be allowed without any repercussions.

That’s incoherent. “Nazi swastika” and “without context” doesn’t mesh because “Nazi” is a context for “swastika”.

That aside, I’m going to take German law as an example: No, non-nazi swastikas are very much not outlawed. You can see them on stray Hindu temples or shrines in the country, for example. “Without” context they’re generally assumed to be Nazi ones over here because historical context, also, only Nazis draw random swastikas over here. You also see ones broken in pieces getting thrown in the trash or in a crossed-out circle, those come from the Antifa side.

Both the Hindu and Antifa uses are legal, the Nazi ones aren’t. That’s because German law doesn’t outlaw the swastika as such, it outlaws “using symbols of unconstitutional or outlawed organisations in a manner suitable to further their aims”. A Nazi painting a Swastika on a Jewish gravestone is considered furthering the aims of the NSDAP, which had the swastika as their logo. A Hindu chiselling a swastika into their gravestone is a completely different matter. (Do Hindus use gravestones? Anyway doesn’t matter it’s a hypothetical example).

In another country, where the historical context is different, those “without” context swastikas won’t be interpreted the same as in Germany. So even under German law those would arguably be legal, there.

Sidyctism2 ,

Its even older than that actually. The oldest recorded use of the swastika is from around 13.000 BCE. Here is a good article by the BBC: bbc.com/…/20210816-the-ancient-symbol-that-was-hi…

Agent641 ,

You’re right. Hey lemmy, lets all accommodate this one guys specific likes and dislikes so he doesn’t get his lil feels hurt!

FiniteBanjo ,

“Hey everybody, cartoon frogs with a history of hate speech are more important to me than basic human empathy.”

Drewelite ,

If you let them dictate what is theirs, they’ll take everything.

FiniteBanjo ,

Lmao, what a wild assumption that they could take whatever icons they like, with no basis in reality.

jwmgregory ,

Lmao, what a wild assumption that they could take whatever icons they like, with no basis in reality.

that’s…. exactly what they do buddy. you don’t seem the type to care for counter-examples so i won’t even try and list any of the many, many fucking instances of this happening irl

FiniteBanjo ,

Ohmygod you’re right just look at the countless examples:

  • Pepe the Frog 2015
  • Swastika 1907
  • ??

They can really just take whatever they want! /sarcasm

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Degenerate, 88, 14, the Roman salute, multiple names, the fascista, shaven heads, lighting motifs, runic symbols.

That’s just what I came up with off the top of my head. The other person is right, and I say we should reclaim every symbol because those fuckers shouldn’t be allowed to call anything their own or have anything to ralley around or identify each other with. The only symbol I’m aware of that the made was the black sun which is itself simply the ss symbol repeated around a circle, which itself is an appropriated rune.

Reclaim every symbol.

Ziglin ,

I do believe 88 was just 2x the 8th letter of the alphabet which is H, which was short for what they say in the Hitlergruß.

This is a perfectly reasonable explanation to me and fits too well for this to seem like a coincidence.

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

I believe that’s correct, yes.

FiniteBanjo ,

88, the Roman Salute, a couple of names, and double lightning aren’t acceptable and it can stay that way without any harm. Why do you even want those things? It serves no good.

Shaven heads, runes, 14, and the word Degenerate are all fine without additional context, but the first 3 can certainly be red flags in the presence of additional factors.

They should have symbols to call their own, so we can easily identify and target them.

Leate_Wonceslace ,
@Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com avatar

Why do you even want those things?

I’m a mathematician. 88 is a number. You think letting them have an entire number isn’t damaging?

Drewelite ,

Just off the top of my head those are a few. And that’s with people holding the line and continuing to use these symbols without hate. We don’t need more people defending their claims.

FiniteBanjo ,

The difference is that none of these things are widely considered hate speech. Pepe is.

Drewelite ,

The only person in this thread who seems intent on pepe being about hate speech is you. I’ve been asked in some formal settings to avoid using the OK hand sign in case it sends the wrong message. I’ve been advised by tattoo artists to avoid Nordic symbols despite the fact that I’m of Scandinavian descent. You’re enabling the worst kind of people to decide what symbols mean in our culture. Why?

FiniteBanjo ,

The top level comment is a 15:65 ratio, and that is in the context of a meme utilizing pepe.

Where did you study Futhark and why do you want them on your skin? Some of my ancestors were latin but you won’t see me getting a pheonician or greek alphabet on my fingers.

Drewelite ,

That’s your position. Not mine. They can’t have shit, because I won’t let them https://lemmynsfw.com/pictrs/image/87aa6f62-defe-4c00-8a60-1e5ae8247fa7.jpeg

match ,
@match@pawb.social avatar

pepe is my gay son and i love him

Agent641 ,

I didnt ask and I dont care.

FiniteBanjo ,

Cool

ProgrammingSocks ,

That’s Apu not Pepe either way, but many leftists use pepe anyways. Just maybe not the ones you know.

pantyhosewimp , in Not everything can be done in constant time, that's O(k)

After all these years I still don’t know how to look at what I’ve coded and tell you a big O math formula for its efficiency.

I don’t even know the words. Like is quadratic worse than polynomial? Or are those two words not legit?

However, I have seen janky performance, used performance tools to examine the problem and then improved things.

I would like to be able to glance at some code and truthfully and accurately and correctly say, “Oh that’s in factorial time,” but it’s just never come up in the blue-collar coding I do, and I can’t afford to spend time on stuff that isn’t necessary.

xthexder ,
@xthexder@l.sw0.com avatar

A quadratic function is just one possible polynomial. They’re also not really related to big-O complexity, where you mostly just care about what the highest exponent is: O(n^2) vs O(n^3).

For most short programs it’s fairly easy to determine the complexity. Just count how many nested loops you have. If there’s no loops, it’s probably O(1) unless you’re calling other functions that hide the complexity.

If there’s one loop that runs N times, it’s O(n), and if you have a nested loop, it’s likely O(n^2).

You throw out any constant-time portion, so your function’s actual runtime might be the polynomial: 5n^3 + 2n^2 + 6n + 20. But the big-O notation would simply be O(n^3) in that case.

I’m simplifying a little, but that’s the overview. I think a lot of people just memorize that certain algorithms have a certain complexity, like binary search being O(log n) for example.

Alexstarfire ,

Spot on. Good explanation.

magic_lobster_party ,

Time complexity is mostly useful in theoretical computer science. In practice it’s rare you need to accurately estimate time complexity. If it’s fast, then it’s fast. If it’s slow, then you should try to make it faster. Often it’s not about optimizing the time complexity to make the code faster.

All you really need to know is:

  • Array lookup: O(1)
  • Single for loop: O(n)
  • Double nested for loop: O(n^2)
  • Triple nested for loop: O(n^3)
  • Sorting: O(n log n)

There are exceptions, so don’t always follow these rules blindly.

It’s hard to just “accidentally” write code that’s O(n!), so don’t worry about it too much.

uis ,

lim n->inf t(n) <= O*c, where O is what is inside of big O and c is positive constant.

uis ,

Basically you can say that time it takes never goes above grapf of some function scaled by constant.

Fun side effect of this is that you can call your O(1) algorithm is O(n!) algorithm and be technically correct.

Mikina ,

Here is a picture, that may help a little bit. The n is input size, and f(n) is how long does the algorithm runs (i.e how many instructions) it takes to calculate it for input for size n, i.e for finding smallest element in an array, n would be the number of elements in the array. g(n) is then the function you have in O, so if you have O(n^2) algorithm, the g(n) = n^2

Basically, you are looking for how quickly it grows for extreme values of N, while also disregarding constants. The graph representation probably isn’t too useful for figuring the O value, but it can help a little bit with understanding it - you want to find a O function where from one point onward (n0), the f(n) is under the O function all the way into infinity.

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/b9a179bb-6a6f-47d1-8c5b-8286c1679d2a.png

archomrade , in I Will Fucking Piledrive You if You mention AI Again

if you continue to try { thisBullshit(); } you are going to catch (theseHands)

This is the most beautiful thing I’ve read all year

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