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ipkpjersi , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

It depends who I’m talking to and where I live. Where I live, engineer is a protected title and requires certification/etc so that takes it out of the race. That leaves the other options. Generally I am a Web Developer to people my age or younger, to people older than me I am usually a Computer Programmer but also sometimes a Developer or Software Developer instead. Realistically, I am a Full Stack Website Developer.

Referring to my job doesn’t get any easier even as someone in tech.

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  • Scrollone ,

    Not only a certification, but in Italy you need to be registered to a register/bar and pay a yearly fee in order to be an engineer.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    At least in civil, the reason is because the professional engineer (PE) stamps all plans and assumes responsibility for said plans by doing so. Plans cannot be built without a stamp. This is the case because someone has to be found liable if a bridge should kill people, and it shouldn’t be the technicians, designers or EITs under the PE, because they don’t make nearly as much. With great pay comes great liability.

    cole ,
    @cole@lemdro.id avatar

    Lives ARE on the line. It was faulty software that caused the Boeing 737 Max to crash twice, killing 346 people. Software runs your car, the trains, rockets, literally everything.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    All engineers not just civil?

    Forester , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
    @Forester@yiffit.net avatar

    Sorcerer of servers

    dylanTheDeveloper , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
    @dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world avatar

    I got told the difference between a software developer and an engineer is that an engineer factors in a products lifecycle and scalability and communicates this to their team and client

    Theharpyeagle ,

    At our company, the person who specializes in that is dubbed Software Architect. Every dev is expected to uphold those values to a certain degree.

    RustyShackleford , (edited ) in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
    @RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

    Tech-priest.

    Magos.

    O, si es necesario, El Señor Arch-Magos.

    Todos alaban al Santo Omnissiah, y así sucesivamente.

    Patches ,

    My email signature is “Via con dios”

    RustyShackleford ,
    @RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

    Claro que sí, con gusto, y por supuesto.

    “Via Vaya con dios”

    Or… was that… the joke?

    Potentially me:

    Roldyclark ,

    Dale?

    RustyShackleford , (edited )
    @RustyShackleford@programming.dev avatar

    I can neither confirm nor deny.

    ᵀᶦᵐᵉ ᶦˢ ᵃ ᶠˡᵃᵗ ᶜᶦʳᶜˡᵉ.

    dgriffith , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us

    You can stare at that code all afternoon but you won’t spot the bug until a microsecond after you hit “commit”.

    Croquette , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    Funny because HR doesn’t know either and its their job. In the US, you just need to slap engineer at the end and you are golden.

    crispy_kilt , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    Serious question, not a native speaker: Why do people in the Anglosphere refer to mostly-software companies as tech companies, or to software developers as tech workers?

    Simon ,

    Because even in those companies many of the ‘computer people’ are not software developers. Tech workers is a catch all term for most people at those companies.

    crispy_kilt ,

    But the term isn’t used for technology outside of software companies, for example, mechanical and electrical engineering

    Simon ,

    There’s tech companies that don’t work with software

    crispy_kilt ,

    Such as?

    Simon ,

    Anything hardware related that doesn’t program in-house, by definition.

    Nath ,
    @Nath@aussie.zone avatar

    Tech is short-hand for technology.
    So, technology companies and technology workers.

    emberwit ,

    But the question was why

    crispy_kilt ,

    Thanks for responding but that wasn’t the question

    Machinists / mechanical engineering are technology workers, so are civil engineers, electrical engineers, etc, but only software gets called “tech”

    crispy_kilt , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    I make computers do useful things.

    MajorHavoc ,

    I make computers do useful things.

    This exactly. Sometimes I also make the computer do what the client asked for.

    Edit: And there was that one time the client asked for the computer to do something useful. But I think that was a fluke.

    Amaltheamannen , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us

    What am I looking at?

    malloc , (edited )

    Whoever committed this change thinks updating the text on the UI for this system will automagically fix issue.

    It’s like editing the HTML on your bank’s website to show you have $1B in the bank 😂

    Issue here committer forgot to update UI to expose the feature person was working on

    victorz ,

    I’m not convinced that’s it, but I don’t know enough to explain why.

    Amaltheamannen ,

    Yeah without more context it just seemed they were renaming the setting as part of a larger diff

    Aatube OP ,

    It says "1 changed file..." at the top

    Aatube OP ,

    No, the settings already existed, they just forgot to expose it

    malloc ,

    That makes sense now. Thanks for extra context.

    Aatube OP ,

    (Here's some more context: The button is in the UI, but it exposed a completely different function than advertised, probably due to being generated from copy-and-pasting the previous button)

    Simon , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    Space wizard will do thanks

    southernwolf , in The simplest mistakes happen to the best of us
    @southernwolf@pawb.social avatar

    I’m not sure I understand, what’s wrong with this commit?

    mexicancartel ,

    1 change, forgot to enable the setting previously

    zarkanian , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
    @zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

    Hackerman

    FluffyPotato , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    I have rotated between countless titles over several decades. What I do hasn’t really changed. Currently I’m not even aware what my official title is and when someone asks I usually say something along the lines of I make IT go but in my native language.

    Kolanaki , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs
    @Kolanaki@yiffit.net avatar

    The Plague.

    citrusface ,

    Uh… Mr. The Plague… Uh. Something weird is happening on the net…

    nelly_man , in As someone not in tech, I have no idea how to refer to my tech friends' jobs

    I prefer Software Engineer, mostly because I studied at an engineering school and have a degree in Software Engineering. My actual titles have varied throughout my career, but I overall consider myself a software engineer.

    DAMunzy ,

    I’m curious if you’ve looked up whether you’re allowed to call yourself an engineer in some states (US centric of course)? I read years ago that some states really frown on calling yourself an engineer if you aren’t a certain small range of engineers that they have codified (pun intended) in law.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    I think that’s only a civil engineering thing.

    Source: work in the industry, and “Civil Engineer” and “Professional Engineer” are legally protected titles. Other than that, it’s fair game. Like, there are “Design Engineers” in the civil sector that don’t have their Professional Engineer certification.

    emberwit ,

    In Germany the title engineer is protected by law but with a computer science degree you may call yourself an engineer.

    Sweetpeaches69 ,

    Oh, wow, TIL.

    AA5B ,

    Same. My current role is most accurately DeOps or DevSecOps - my education actually predates “Software Engineer” but it was a Software degree from an Engineering school, and with a more technical focus than the similar degree from Arts and Sciences. But yes, every time I due process improvement, standards and practices, etc, that makes it “Software Engineer”. And every time I have to explain to developers how their stuff works, yes, I’m “The Engineer”, capitalized

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