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Republicans want someone younger than Donald Trump as president: new poll

In a YouGov poll conducted between July 25-29, 59 percent of Republicans surveyed said they would prefer a president under the age of 75. Trump celebrated his 78th birthday in June. Forty percent said they had no preference, and just two percent said they would prefer a president over the age of 75.

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/84ec8411-a008-4bac-b39c-ec99cfca1d3a.png

dumples ,

Trump can step down and not run. Biden did it. It’s all the rage right now

bradorsomething ,

I’m not quite a lib, but I’d still feel owned if he did, does that count?

dumples ,

Yes it does. So owned

qjkxbmwvz ,

Trump (recently) received the nomination from his party, while Biden dropped out before the DNC. I could be wrong but I think it’s a little more problematic for him to drop out, although perhaps that’s just related to RNC self-imposed rules and not any actual laws.

NotMyOldRedditName ,

IMO doesn’t matter whether they can or can’t, they already attacked Biden for doing it as if he actually was nominated, so that fully puts them into hypocrite land if they do.

But oh wait, they don’t give a fuck about that.

KillingTimeItself ,

republicans will immediately engage in cognitive dissonance if it means they can make a funny haha argument for something

recapitated ,

What’s the difference to the voter

worldwidewave ,

Short of a major heart attack, Trump isn’t giving up one iota of power. Really helps to draw a contrast between the parties, where one guy is willing to step down and the other is prepared to crash the plane with us all in it.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

He knows if he isn’t elected, he’s going to prison.

partial_accumen ,

…or Russia.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

True. It wouldn’t shock me if he did the Idi Amin thing.

nondescripthandle ,

A Russian prison would be a fitting setting for him. Hope he outlives his usefulness.

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

They wouldn’t throw him in prison even if he could get there. They would put him on one of their propaganda “news” channels and let him go to town. They can subtitle whatever they want for the locals so he can say whatever.

But he’ll never get there. He has a permanent secret service escort that probably isn’t going to be cool with defecting to russia.

aeronmelon ,

Go directly to gulag, do not pass Mar-A-Lago.

TriPolarBearz ,

This is depends if there are still top secret documents there.

pennomi ,

I highly doubt the Feds would allow that.

Sabata11792 ,

A good plan B if he was capable of planning on his own.

ipkpjersi ,

I’m not so sure I agree that he will be held accountable for his actions if he doesn’t win. I think he still narrowly avoids prison even if he doesn’t win, or maybe only spends like 3 days maximum in prison, sadly.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

There’s also the possibility of house arrest. I’ll take that.

tacosanonymous ,

It doesn’t seem like a real consequence. Also, what if he breaks it? Will there be a consequence for that? I don’t see it happening.

brbposting ,

For most people, it would be a horrible punishment to be forced to spend your older years at one of his resorts*… surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.

*or maybe “resort”, anybody know if you can stay at any impeached ex-presidential resorts besides mar-AHHHH!!!-lago?

lol:

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/13c3b8d9-3420-4d90-a9ef-f1449bb6c67e.jpeg

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

surrounded exclusively by people who are happy to support him financially.

I think you greatly overestimate who would plan on sticking around if Trump ended up disgraced after the election and under house arrest. He will have completely outlived his usefulness.

brbposting ,

I hope so. Maybe it would just be these four

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/d6705f62-9c30-4b02-b065-334223479c41.jpeg

KillingTimeItself ,

i think the reason it’s considered a resort is because hes only allowed to stay there for like 30 days at a time, no longer. Since it’s not legally considered to be a “private residence” and that has something to do with it’s tax status i think? Which i think is also due to it’s zoning status.

I believe this is pretty common amongst rich people who own multiple properties.

YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ,

I really don’t think his Supreme Court is going to allow him to have a custodial sentence. They showed they were fully on the Trump train by finding immunity in the constitution when it plainly reads otherwise.

TurnpikeRangers ,

You may be absolutely correct, but we know for a fact that he won’t be held accountable if he does win.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

He is not a healthy man, Trump will die before he’s held accountable for anything. He’s lived a long life of being a terrible person and the only consequence he’ll face for it is the stress of court cases through his final years and the knowledge that only 40ish% of voters would vote for him again.

ipkpjersi ,

Nah, the miracle of modern medicine with being able to afford the best doctors in the world will keep him for many years to come.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

He’s not going to prison

SuckMyWang ,

Do they send 78 year old people to prison?

octopus_ink ,

I think it’s because he knows that if he is elected he’ll be President until old age and unhealthy living kill him, whether that’s two years from now or twenty.

“You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what? It’ll be fixed, it’ll be fine. You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians,” he said.

And who knows what the remaining government of Trumpistan will choose to do for his replacement after that.

Delta_ ,

Funny, Pete went on Fox and said just that!

NOT_RICK ,
@NOT_RICK@lemmy.world avatar

lol she was trying so hard to interrupt him. Cable news is cancerous bs

Delta_ ,

Made it so much more satisfying

teft ,
@teft@lemmy.world avatar

I definitely would not be able to remain as calm as Mr Buttigieg in this exchange.

anoncity ,

Was Biden not stubbornly refusing to step down for so long, until his party forced his hand? I think Democrats wanted someone younger than him in 2020 too. I think we’re giving Biden too much credit here.

Samvega ,

We must remember that Biden is a politician who arguably plagiarised lines of a speech from Kinnock, sinking his '87 campaign.

He’s not some paragon of virtue and perfection.

His greatest achievement is also working with the Republicans. And look at how much respect that got him from that party.

KillingTimeItself ,

dude i think every politican ever has plagiarized a speech. Even fucking trump, although i think it was ivanka? Idk, she stole michelle obamas speech iirc.

Also 87 was literally 35+ years ago.

Samvega ,

Okay, so we can’t judge Biden on reasonable standards, or what he did when he was being a politician in the past. Got it.

frezik ,

You can bet that at least the last week of that was a matter of keeping up appearances. The transition went smoother than it had any right to, and that doesn’t happen without a lot of behind the scenes planning.

brbposting ,

Must’ve been a supervetted group who knew anything if reports are true some close aides were told minutes before the official announcement.

some_guy ,

False. Biden wasn’t willing to step down. He was forced to. Just because he did it doesn’t make him a hero. He deserves to be remembered for refusing to listen to feedback until it was clear he’d be tanked by people like Pelosi, another Dem who won’t give up power unless it’s on her own terms. But we can move on from that mess, thankfully.

teamevil ,

Or he made sure to stand strong strategically (as anyone running would do) and stepped down at a time to maximize effectiveness.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

No, he was planning to run again. His debate performance was the nail in the coffin.

some_guy ,

Giving an incredible amount of credit where there’s no evidence. Our politicians / politics aren’t terribly complicated. There are people who want power and they act accordingly. And there are people who want to do some good. They might be the rare case where they don’t get corrupted (Bernie). And then the rest gradually learn to live within the system and perpetuate it (possibly AOC; can’t tell for sure, but it seems more like it as time passes).

FakeGreekGirl ,

He was forced to, how? Nobody has the power to force him do anything.

He read the writing on the wall and stepped aside. Something Trump would never do.

some_guy ,

I agree Trump would never step aside. I’m just saying Biden was put in a position where the support he needed wasn’t there and they made it clear to him. He still could have run, but he was made to understand that he’d lose because he wouldn’t have the backers he needed. Look at the cash KH is raking in. The right people let him know they wanted her / anyone else instead.

Evilcoleslaw , (edited )

He was pressured to step down and then was ultimately willing to listen and do so. There was no method to force him to step down – he had more than enough delegates locked in to win the nomination if he wanted to keep going.

KillingTimeItself ,

i mean, he rightly, i think did what was expected. The incumbency advantage over someone like trump, especially with having pushed SO much productive legislation is a really safe bet, was it safe enough to win? Maybe?

I don’t think people were expecting everyone to be super excited over kamala, until she showed up and started kicking ass.

up until that one debate, he was doing pretty ok. Not great, but not terrible enough to warrant completely removing him, which was why the DNC waited to nominate.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

one guy is willing to step down

81 year old man dogpilled by his party during a possibly fatal respiratory illness.

Don’t give Biden too much credit here.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Willing to step down is giving him too much credit. He was pushed out because Dems know he’ll lose. The parties are the same. It’s just business. They don’t love or care about you.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

They couldn’t force him. They convinced him it was the right thing to do.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah like how convince people to resign after doing something terrible. It wasn’t Biden’s idea. You didn’t hear all the stuff he was saying after the debate? Come on

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

It’s almost like he had the self awareness to change his mind when presented with compelling, new information.

It’s what mature adults do

If you think the only way any adult can change their mind is if they’re forced to, it speaks more of you than them.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

The new and compelling information was that they wanted his ass out.

Damn. You Biden’s #1 fan. And think so highly of politicians. It’s business. People don’t want to lose money and power. Biden isn’t immune to this.

DadVolante ,
@DadVolante@sh.itjust.works avatar

Yes it was. Gold star for you.

I must be his #1 fan because reasons.

Have an ice cream cone or something man. It’ll help that attitude.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Biden still stepped down, Trump never will. These are not the same picture.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

They don’t want him to. Not the same indeed.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

59% of Republicans want someone younger than Trump as president.

Republicans also don’t want Trump to step down.

At least they’re consistent in not knowing what they want.

venusaur ,
@venusaur@lemmy.world avatar

That’s one from one survey. And even so, that doesn’t mean that’s gonna sway them away from not voting for the guy. They’d still vote. People wouldn’t vote for Biden so Dems had to change. That’s a big difference.

neidu2 ,

"Yes, because our guy is TOUGH who sees things THROUGH!"

  • MAGA asshats, probably
OldWoodFrame ,

This really just shows the flaw in surveys like this. There is someone running who is younger, and they aren’t going to vote for her. They wish TRUMP was younger.

Telodzrum ,

That isn’t a logical disconnect. I wanted someone younger than Biden, but I wasn’t going to vote for Kennedy or Trump.

echo ,

Sorry repubs… you’re going to have to carry this non-viable fetus to term…

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

If the Dems get a reroll, I don’t see why the Repubs wouldn’t be allowed one, too.

Excited to see JD Vance at the top of the ticket. That should be fun.

DragonTypeWyvern , (edited )

They already had their convention in July. That’s why they shit themselves throwing a temper tantrum when the Dems switched, having made an assumption that the Dems wouldn’t just not nominate a sitting President.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

They already had their convention in July.

Where they made their VP announcement, clearly without an iota of audience testing.

But nothing really stops Trump from withdrawing and ceding the nomination to his VP. Or dying, for that matter.

That’s why they shit themselves throwing a temper tantrum

I suspect that’s more just because Biden would have been easier to beat and they’re sore over not being able to coast to victory.

IamSparticles ,

I was going to suggest that they could just make Vance the candidate. I’m sure that will work out well for them.

HurlingDurling ,
@HurlingDurling@lemmy.world avatar

The Democrats still haven’t had their convention so they still can make whatever chabge they want. If Trump withdraws, the Republican party as a whole would be withdrawing because they already had their convention and chose their representative. Another Democrat can run against Kamala up until the convention, but once the Democratic party chooses their representative, they would also be locked in.

I_Fart_Glitter ,

The DNC and RNC aren’t legally bound by the rules they made for themselves. There have been lawsuits in the last 8 years that have established that. They can both do what ever the fuck they want as long as they don’t piss off the really big donors.

prole ,

But nothing really stops Trump from withdrawing and ceding the nomination to his VP. Or dying, for that matter.

Besides his crippling narcissism

echo ,

Because Dems only just now voted and elected Harris. At this point, they are also locked in. Repubs already felated, I mean elected, Cheeto…

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Because Dems only just now voted and elected Harris.

I’m not sure what election you participated in, but my ballot listed Joe Biden at the top of the ticket.

At this point, they are also locked in

Nothing forces Trump to be president. He can quit any time he wants.

echo ,

I’m not sure what election you participated in, but my ballot listed Joe Biden at the top of the ticket.

So this is an opportunity for you to learn how it really works. Harris was just officially voted to be the Dem candidate and that will be official on Monday.

Nothing forces Trump to be president. He can quit any time he wants.

Oh, he could abort himself, but you know that’s never going to happen. The party is stuck with the weirdo until the election, otherwise.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Harris was just officially voted to be the Dem candidate

By whom? Which voter cast a ballot for Harris? Which state did she win?

echo ,

You need to learn how the process works… you’re being intentionally ignorant which is a form of stupidity.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

You need to learn how the process works…

  • The process selects a candidate
  • The party ejects the candidate in place of a younger, more popular secondary

Me: “Republicans should do this, too”

Lemmy: ten zillion downvotes

Haters gonna hate.

captainlezbian ,

They can still have a spontaneous abortion. All they need is for old Donny boy to step down or otherwise become incapacitated

echo ,

He’s not going to step down, so it will have to be incapacitation which I fully support.

Ragnarok314159 ,

I don’t. He needs to lose and spend the rest of his life in prison, along with most of his children.

prole ,

Because they actively participated in the deification of Trump among their base, so they know that taking Trump off the ballot would split the party (possibly irreparably).

jwt ,

… would split the party (possibly irreparably)

Especially since it’s a near certainty that Trump would just continue his presidential bid (as a write-in independent if need be).

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

repubs had like 10 chances to jettison trump between dropping him from the party, washing their hands of him, supporting the investigations, and voting to impeach… and they rejected all of them to stand by him

doggle ,

Dems changed to Harris before actually nominating Biden.

Trump is already nominated. Changing at this point would be a much bigger problem for either side.

Even if they somehow did who would take his place? Vance has been very unpopular so far, and they’ve already had a full primary this cycle; we already know they don’t have anyone better than Trump.

Also it would make them hypocrites, not that they care.

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Dems changed to Harris before actually nominating Biden.

Show me the election where Harris was at the top of the ballot.

Warl0k3 ,

Sooooo… what’s your point?

UnderpantsWeevil ,
@UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world avatar

Trump’s free to drop out and let Vance run for Prez

doggle ,

Almost a fair point; dems may not have rallied around Harris under other circumstances. But she’s only formally run one other time and that was four years ago and against a former VP (Biden). Not quite the same situation today.

Also the line you quoted doesn’t seem to have anything to do with the point you’re trying to make.

bluewing ,

A nomination does not mean that the republican party needs to back Trump. They could have simply chose someone else or even remove him from their ticket. It’s all in their control.

A primary is merely to check and see which way the political wind is blowing before the election. And nominations are not written in stone.

CaptDust ,

They’re allowed, but he needs convinced to step down.

oxideseven ,

Who are the absolute muppets that want an older than 75 president!? Here I am hoping for laws limiting it to like 60 max…

DontRedditMyLemmy ,

They know Trump’s age and they want him. Frankly, I’m surprised it’s not a lot higher.

KnowledgeableNip ,

If you do not qualify for long term care insurance, maybe sit the presidency out.

perishthethought ,

There’s always a percentage who choose to troll the pollsters.

iamtrashman1312 ,

Lizardman’s Constant is 4%

suction ,

Donald Trump Jr. - solved.

SketchySeaBeast ,
@SketchySeaBeast@lemmy.ca avatar

Somewhere, a finger on a monkey’s paw curls.

KillingTimeItself ,

oh no, if they get rid of trump, and replace him with someone else that would be a subversion of democracy!!!

Snowclone ,

Totally ending democracy. Which is bad. Trump said HE would end Democracy, which is good. But the Democrats sound like Democracy. which is bad, but “ending Democracy” is a way you can attack democrats, which is good. But Trump said he would be ending democracy, which is good. But we can eat ice cream, which is good, but we’re out and only have frozen yogurt, which is bad, but we have crushed up cookies and sprinkles, which is good. But the cookies have arsenic in them. Which is bad. But they are sugar free, which is bad, unless you have diabetes, which is also bad, you don’t have diabetes, which is good, but you have PRE diabetes, which is bad, but you can get out of work for extra doctors visits, which is good, but you have to pay the co-pay. Which is bad. But your wallet is old leather and smells like your grandpa, which is good. But your grandpa died 14 years ago, which is bittersweet, and a touch melancholy.

IAmTheZeke ,

I LIKE ice cream

nonfuinoncuro ,

I like turtles

Bakkoda ,

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/6ba39579-1c01-4a85-b2a7-3fb0656a8e31.png

recapitated ,

I would pee my pants if they copied the Dems and put up Vance as the nominee.

mavu ,

It’s going to be hillarious to see them trying to get rid of him.
There is not enough popcorn on this continent for that.

Snowclone ,

Yeah that ‘‘everyone is cheating me’’ attitude is gonna be great when they have to deal with it.

Diplomjodler3 ,

They know perfectly well that they have nothing left without him.

Etterra ,

Trump gets triggered.

billiam0202 ,

You know who would be a President under 75?

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/d8eeb907-73d4-4e5c-94d4-fff14aec138c.jpeg

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

I wish 60 years old didn’t seem so young.

Crikeste ,

She is 59, you misinformation spreading tankie.😡

theangryseal ,

She do look good for 59. Maybe I’m just getting old and old is looking younger, but if someone told me she was late 30s-mid 40s I would’ve believed it.

neidu2 ,

There’s a pretty good chance that US politics portraits are taken by well funded and skilled photographer(s)

theangryseal ,

Hmm. I’m sure there’s a phone video out there. BRB.

theangryseal ,

I’m back. Ok, yeah. Not 30s but I wouldn’t think someone was lying to me if they said 40s and that’s still pretty good.

Assman ,
@Assman@sh.itjust.works avatar

She is black, and I’m told it don’t crack

KillingTimeItself ,

smells like someone forgot the /s

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Even if she serves 2 terms, she’d be younger at the end than Trump was when he started his first one!

Wogi ,

“No not like that”

-Republicans

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

i’d like to point out that she is 21 years older than stephen miller and stephen miller looks like this

nightmare fuelhttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Stephen_miller_june_2016_cropped_corrected.jpg

billiam0202 ,

That’s the shit thing about being pure evil. You age prematurely but live for fucking ever.

NormalPerson ,

see: Mitch McConnell

DaddleDew ,

I think they see how dropping Biden has significantly benefited the Democrats and hope the same would happen for then if they dropped Trump.

The problem for them with that is that Trump will never willingly step down. Unlike Biden he’s in it for himself and has everything to lose its he doesn’t win. This would also be guaranteed to result in crippling infighting in the party and with Trump trying to go independent.

The Republican party is f’ed. That’s what you get for selecting a selfish lunatic to lead it.

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

The other problem is their convention is over. But I suppose they do have until August 7th to make the Ohio ballot with someone else. Good luck with that, guys.

someguy3 ,

It’s only f’ed if they lose (and don’t steal the election). So get out to vote everyone.

Asafum ,

We absolutely need to vote, but I’m worried that some of these R swing states are going to pull some serious shit and just deny certifying the results.

We’re going to hear a whole bunch about “immigrants voting illegaly” and “ballot stuffing” or the good ol’ “the numbers (that we won’t provide) don’t match up! Dead people are voting!”

KillingTimeItself ,

they tried to pull alternate electorates in the 2020 election, and it didn’t work.

If they’re swing state, they probably won’t i think. Because there would likely be some kind of massive poltiical uprising in response to blatantly overthrowing electorates like that. It would likely be deeply unpopular.

it’s a concern, for sure, but unless they try to pull some real bullshit, i don’t think it’s a massive concern.

This also doesn’t even discount proposing fraudulent votes, which im not sure would matter from a legal perspective, but if you’re just, lying about votes that you’re submitting, i wouldn’t be surprised if that was not exactly, clean.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

It would indeed be better for the GOP if Trump stepped down, but of course the GOP decided that they ARE Trump, so they’re stuck with him for the rest of his life.

CileTheSane ,
@CileTheSane@lemmy.ca avatar

Do they have an actual platform this time or is it still “whatever Trump says we’ll follow”?

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

Well, if they got rid of him, it would probably change to “the same, but with a different god emperor.”

arin ,

Why younger? Why not someone smarter and, empathetic?

FlyingSquid OP ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because Trump loves the poorly educated, has the best brain, and Ayn Rand said altruism is evil.

KillingTimeItself ,

because old is generally not where smart and empathetic comes from.

Also you start to get into the area of cognitive and physical decline to the point where you start falling over if you aren’t careful, or just cant really think as well anymore.

Usually someone that encompasses the traits you propose is going to be younger, 60’s probably.

cupcakezealot ,
@cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

sorry you gotta carry it to term, republicans

Veneroso ,

And JD Vance!

CaptainHowdy ,

Best comment on Lemmy in months

the_frumious_bandersnatch ,

How many of them changed their minds when they were told that DJT is, in fact, over the age of 75?

nomous ,

2%

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