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NauticalNoodle ,

So what? Does this dunce think that’s an insult?

lennybird ,
@lennybird@lemmy.world avatar

Shady Vans is weird man.

nifty ,
@nifty@lemmy.world avatar

What’s the tactic here to win voters? Alienate them? Are the republicans trying to neg women into voting for them?

I don’t think lack of self esteem is going to win them any votes, how will Republicans raising taxes on the poor and giving corporations tax cuts help the childless cat ladies have babies?

Etterra ,

No tactic, he’s just an asshole. Just because Trump was stupid enough to pick him doesn’t mean that Vance has a single clue about what he’s fucking doing.

ef9357 ,

Why do Republicans hate children so much? I have kids and fail to understand why the party supporters want children born unwanted. Do they secretly relish the idea that these unwanted kids will grow up in misery? Neglected, abused, worse? WTAF?

Mirshe ,

Unironically, they absolutely do. Children are the punishment for having sex out of wedlock, and not only must the woman suffer for having this child, but the child must suffer because they’re the product of sin.

I knew a number of people at my old church who ABSOLUTELY thought this way.

Liz ,

I had a conversation about abortion with a friend once where, after a lot of effort by my to keep the conversation on topic, she finally admitted that having a child if the punishment you deserve for getting pregnant.

Zink ,

In this case I think it’s not even anything to do with the contempt for children. It’s just yet another way to mark people you don’t like as outsiders and others. Republicans absolutely love to demonize the media any way they can.

model_tar_gz ,

Military recruiting is down and their pipelines are weak as our knowledge and information economy have proliferated and thrived. So: do whatever is needed to make childhood so shitty being raised from a negligent and abusive household, and flyover country future economic prospects so bleak as an adult that an Army 11X MOS looks like a golden ticket out.

The military doesn’t want well-adjusted, emotionally stable and regulated to enlist for combat arms. Their need for warfighters outweighs the ethics of manipulating a society’s citizens to worship war.

And there’s only so many officers (whom they actually do want to be emotionally stable, educated, and rational) that they need.

NauticalNoodle ,

Children have needs. Republicans don’t do well with people that have needs.

piefedderatedd ,

A clear copy of an article from The Onion right ? Right ?

ulkesh ,
@ulkesh@lemmy.world avatar

Vance can go fuck himself. And a couch. And a dolphin. And whatever else he gets off on. What a douchbag.

cabron_offsets ,

When he’s not fucking furniture, I guess.

EvilEyedPanda ,

Most of us are childless adults because of republican policies.

tigeruppercut ,

They’re so fucking stupid. If they wanted to keep making the ultra rich richer, they’d give all of us enough money to spend disposable income. But the current policies are coming to the inevitable late stage capitalism conclusion where none of us have enough money to continue propping them up.

It’s been decades of short term gains over sustainability, and we’re at the end of that pattern now

RedAggroBest ,

All this thread gave me is the question:

What the fuck did I miss that JD Vance is now meme’d as a couch fucker?

vxx ,

An Internet User made up that he wrote in his book that he put a latex glove between couch cussions and fucked it. The Internet spread it fast.

www.snopes.com/…/jd-vance-couch-cushions/

And then this happened: knowyourmeme.com/…/ap-retracts-its-jd-vance-couch…

And this:

knowyourmeme.com/…/as-internet-discovers-truth-ab…

EmpathicVagrant ,

Vance made a statement clearly saying he has never had sexual relations with a couch ‘to completion’.

This qualifier means, to me, that he did indeed do the thing.

vxx ,

I couldn’t believe my ears when I heard it. That statement was so funny.

EmpathicVagrant ,

I had to read it like four times, I focus (a bit too much) on rhetoric when someone speaks because I’m used to qualifiers like this twisting what they say, so I’m going to just keep pointing it out.

Liz ,

I’mma need some sauce on that denial.

EmpathicVagrant ,

https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/c00bf964-c853-49ae-b895-f99435283699.jpeg

Liz ,

That’s more than enough proof for me!

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

Every time a new story about Vance comes out, I become more and more certain that Trump regrets choosing him.

Yeller_king ,

Even if that’s true, being able to navigate the media environment is a job requirement for politicians.

He sucks so bad at this.

MeekerThanBeaker ,

The wealthy want more people in the world so that they can pay employees less. More people, more competition for jobs. Also, more consumption, more sales.

EmpathicVagrant ,

Infinite growth requires an increase in one of two things - workers in the pool, or wages.

Corporate sees one option.

Socsa ,

I’ve been saying this for a while now that this anger and resentment over childfree people has become increasingly pervasive and dangerous and it really feels like we are going to be one of the first against the wall.

Even among otherwise reasonable people I know there is a shocking amount of resentment towards people who choose to live their lives for something besides children.

expr ,

I haven’t really seen that honestly, it’s pretty much a non-event. I have a kid, some of my circle don’t plan on it. No one really cares.

I’ve seen childfree people on the internet complaining about people with kids plenty enough, but I always assumed they were a vocal minority.

The only time I’ve ever seen this topic as an actual point of contention in real life is people who insist on no kids at weddings. Which I do think is kind of a dick move, but also people’s preogerative.

lath ,

I’ve seen kids at weddings. Hell, I’ve been a kid at weddings. It was generally a bad experience for everyone.

Bored. Hungry. Thirsty. Where’s the toilet? I wanna play over there. Not allowed to touch this and that. Don’t run around. Don’t yell. Stop doing rude things. Don’t cry. Barf. Sleepy. Who gave them alcohol? I wanna go home! Stop crying. Etc and so on.

Kids and weddings rarely mix well, often making it a burdensome experience for everyone, mostly for the kids.

zarkanian ,
@zarkanian@sh.itjust.works avatar

This is also why I hate weddings as an adult. They’re boring. Maybe I’d feel differently if it was my own wedding or if I was really emotionally invested in the couple or something.

JasonDJ ,

Weddings are different if you’re a close friend of the betrothed. Then it’s a party with all your friends and a bunch of people you tangentially know.

Being a distant friend or cousin at those events sucks.

SkyeStarfall ,

Or maybe the wedding they want to make wouldn’t be appropriate for kids?

Ragnarok314159 ,

A lot of times this is it. Adults want to get shitfaced, play songs with cuss words, and have fun.

You can’t do that with your kids in tow and with other people’s kids around.

JasonDJ ,

Well what good are you if you aren’t making future soldiers? Get out there and sow your wild oats. Or spread your legs. Whatever you have to do, do it for America.

Harris out here telling us we shouldn’t throw up our arms when we should be rolling up our sleeves. Vance just wants to roll up our slipcovers.

Ragnarok314159 ,

It’s because so many of these people hate their children and resent those kids for being alive. I have heard other parents talk about how much they wasted on kids bringing them up, and how much better they imagine their lives had they not had kids.

They want other people saddled with this same burden and drag everyone down to their misery.

It’s natural as a parent to think about life without kids, especially with how miserable it has become. Kids are seldom allowed to be kids. It’s all structured nonsense and constant trash like 20 games of little kid sports, which they don’t want to play. They want to sit inside and play electronics just like adults.

Parents also spend hundreds of dollars on things like music lessons, and the kid gets bored because Minecraft genuinely is more fun for a kid. Then they get angry and hateful at the kid.

Blackmist ,

If that’s actually true, maybe don’t attack the people who will be reporting on what you say?

I’m not an expert in PR training, but this seems like it would be pretty early in the lessons.

rsuri ,

Obsession with childless adults? Hmm, I think I know which major Republican donor recommended him to Trump…

PepperoniNipple ,

Someone who actually cared about his own children wouldn’t be capable of saying this shit with so much confidence because they’d capable of seeing other adults and kids as “their own” too, a kind of empathy you can kinda only develop by being a parent.

The fact he uses them more like status quo trophies shows a really disgusting and inhumane side of him. He probably only had children to accomodate a social quota, not because he actually loves them. He doesn’t value human life as human, but more like a transaction, a holy duty or even monetary. It’s just gross and hard to explain how it feels to hear this dumb motherfucker

Rentlar ,

Vance probably wanted a couch for a wife over a person, but had to settle /shitpost

EmpathicVagrant ,

Some folks may need to become a parent to develop this form of empathy, but it isn’t by any means required. A ton of the childfree folks I’ve met are extremely empathetic and forward about wanting to better things.

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