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Pronouns and tribal affiliations are now forbidden in South Dakota public university employee emails

A new South Dakota policy to stop the use of gender pronouns by public university faculty and staff in official correspondence is also keeping Native American employees from listing their tribal affiliations in a state with a long and violent history of conflict with tribes.

Two University of South Dakota faculty members, Megan Red Shirt-Shaw and her husband, John Little, have long included their gender pronouns and tribal affiliations in their work email signature blocks. But both received written warnings from the university in March that doing so violated a policy adopted in December by the South Dakota Board of Regents.

“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’ If my tribal affiliation and pronouns were not removed after the 5 days, then administrators would meet and make a decision whether I would be suspended (with or without pay) and/or immediately terminated.”

The policy is billed by the board as a simple branding and communications policy. It came only months after Republican Gov. Kristi Noem sent a letter to the regents that railed against “liberal ideologies” on college campuses and called for the board to ban drag shows on campus and “remove all references to preferred pronouns in school materials,” among other things.

Facebones ,

I’m failing and firing everyone on campus who doesn’t immediately start reporting EVERY use of EVERY pronoun in EVERY email.

Swamp those mother fuckers .

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HawlSera ,

Well that sounds legal as fuck (no it doesn’t)

Manalith ,

I was gonna say, for public universities that sounds like a violation of the first amendment, but I could be wrong.

HawlSera ,

It’s also a violation of Title IX

Fleppensteijn ,
@Fleppensteijn@feddit.nl avatar

There are no pronouns in symbols ♂, ♀

mo_lave ,

This measure in a vacuum is not inherently bad, though it is authoritarian and, yes, contrary to a Republican’s (theoretical) advocacy to small government. Rwanda also removed legal distinctions between Tutsi and Hutu, but it was done after and because of the genocide.

prole ,

What’s the point of comments like this? Truly… Are we in a vacuum? No? Then why even continue with whatever inane bullshit that came next?

Yeah dude perfect analogy. These people are doing this to promote solidarity and show that we’re all the same and shouldn’t be murdering each other. Totally comparable situation.

mo_lave ,

I get that using and promoting labels for your group promote solidarity. It can also cause division simply because when you call yourself “X”, it’s inevitable that people would form opinions and at worst prejudices on what is “not X”.

My point? Similar policies may result in different outcomes.

Churbleyimyam ,

“Hey we have some pretty serious and urgent problems that need sorting out, shall we get to work?”

“Nah, let’s fuck around with pronouns in emails.”

lolcatnip ,

“We’re here to create problems, not solve them!”

Shou ,

So what do people call each other now? Fuckwit/fuckedwit?

Railcar8095 ,

Those are gender pronouns with extra steps. \s

The tittle butchers the fact. They are not forbidden the use of pronouns, but to list their preferred ones (i.e, Dr Fuckwit (she/her).

When something is this stupid (university banning the preferred pronoums) , why not display it in all it’s stupid glory?

person420 ,

What’s really stupid is that I know a few women with traditionally male sounding names (Ryan, Alex, etc) who add their pronouns because they are sick of people assuming they’re male, but fuck them right?

mo_lave ,

Their names

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Molave’s pronouns are inbred/colonizer.

Drivebyhaiku ,

That would turn those effectively into pronouns. I guess you are supposed to just hum through the pronouns or leave a marked silence?

intensely_human ,

They can only call each other their names.

Jim said Jim and Larry were gonna go to the store. So Jim says to Larry, “Hey Larry, what’s on your mind?” and Larry says “Nothing, Jim. Just wondering what time Larry and Jim’d get there at this pace”. Jim checks Jim’s watch and says “Jim and Larry’ve been walking about - what - ten minutes?”.

Jim stops a second, deep in thought. Jim scratches Jim’s chin as Jim thinks. “About two I’d say”

“Alright” says Larry “Let Larry and Jim get moving then”

“Yes let Larry and Jim”

(no first person plural pronouns either)

zipzoopaboop ,

Land of the free

OutlierBlue ,

Whoever told you that is your enemy

kent_eh ,

Francis Scott Key is your enemy?

DragonTypeWyvern ,

Yes, he’s actually a lich, has a lair in the USS Constitution, that’s why they call it a “museum,” to lure unwary tourists for his unholy hungers.

Passerby6497 ,

Government small enough to fit in your mailbox

DrummXYBA ,

Surely it should be a choice.

Heartwotalk ,

Republicans really aren’t fans of letting people make their own choices. You could even say that they aren’t pro-choice.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

It was a choice, your masters have chosen.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

Devils advocate, because it is my nature… I work in government. My department has a policy with the formatting of my email signature sent from my work email. My email states my name, rank/position, department, and contact information with the department logo. Nowhere in there does it state my sex or race. And it shouldn’t, it is irrelevant. It serves no purpose in a professional capacity.

However, this situation apparently has prior issues. It was apparently fine to do until they made discriminatory statements then shortly after cracked down on it.

Unfortunately I don’t think the 1st amendment defense would apply when you are acting in an official capacity. You don’t get to say whatever you want while you get paid by the government. On your personal time that is a different story.

TheOneCurly ,

Pronouns are extremely relevant in formal communication. People do their best to infer them from names but that’s not always easy or even possible.

nickhammes ,

And sometimes people have a name commonly associated with a different gender. A guy named Hilary, or a woman named Max or Justin are likely to get misgendered in written communications without including pronouns. Or anybody named Alex stands a chance of it.

MindTraveller ,

Or an enby named literally anything other than Sock

Agrivar ,

Damn, with a username like that your garbage take makes it even easier to block your ass.

nickhammes ,

I certainly hope they’re talking to a lawyer about the school’s discriminatory conduct, about whether they might win, and if it’s worth fighting.

Whether the first amendment applies or not is a question worth asking them, I’m not sure it’s quite so simple. If a state told a Muslim employee they couldn’t pray while on the clock, I would very much expect a first amendment claim. I don’t think this is so clear, but a public university telling an employee they can’t include relevant information like their pronouns for discriminatory reasons seems plausible.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

I guess, providing someone time to pray, and that person placing “I AM MUSLIM” On their official correspondence as a public servant/employee representing their department are two different things. I am not defending anyone here, just curious how it applies.

As for this situation, it seems if the memo said “you can’t put your pronouns or tribal affiliation on your signature” vs “Please use this official template for your email signature” would make all the difference in how a lawyer could defend it. And it sounds like they did the latter. But we all know the reason they did it.

KairuByte ,

It depends very much on timing. If this was brought up within the first few weeks? Sure. But if this has been in their signature for months and/or years without issue, and suddenly it’s a problem? Extremely suspicious.

prole ,

Pronouns are a fundamental building block of the English language. You literally cannot write or speak coherently without them. Equating that to putting “I AM A MUSLIM” on official correspondence is idiotic at best, and disingenuous at worst (well, disingenuous, racist and probably transphobic, at worst).

Stating your religious beliefs isn’t a building block of the English language. Like you get how these are different things right? You could remove the name of every single religion ever from the English language, just poof, and guess what? We would still have no problem communicating.

Now try doing that with pronouns. An entire figure of speech.

GnomeKat ,
@GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone avatar

Bad take… truely advocating for the devil here…

Drivebyhaiku , (edited )

But that is just describing the current government format of your office. That is not a static thing, it’s subject to change for any internal reason for any time. It’s a specific policy not applicable outside of your specific government and essentially your workplace.

Even inside your government office if you have groups which are routinely not served by that model then essentially you create additional emotional or mental work burdens for some of your employees but not others. You being fine with that is simply your opinion. Your position in believing that these things are irrelevant are because to you that policy holds no barriers. But imagine if multiple people in your department brought forward that they were legitimately struggling with that policy and it was impacting how much mental fortitude it took to get through their work day. Would you join them in changing the policy? It’s a similar question to if your co-worker in a wheel chair needed to take an additional 8 minutes partially outdoors to travel to the bathroom in your building because a set of tiny stairs. To you those stairs do not impact your work experience at all but to the person in the chair they might need to grab weather appropriate clothing for outside and regularly be in uncomfortable temperatures, or get wet in the rain or if they need to rush be forced to painfully hold their innards for the additional time simply because of a set of four stairs. Their experience of life at work requires additional personal fortitude because it’s impacted in an outsized fashion because a ramp most people wouldn’t even notice isn’t there is not seen as needed. How much of your assertion of not requiring a ramp simply because you don’t personally need one?

Critically Universities are not your government body and a level of personal comfort in their communications has been largely normalized. Pronouns in emails was common in a number of Acedemic circles and governing bodies long before they were known elsewhere. Universities are where the practice originates from and it’s became increasingly normal. Why is it being cracked down on now?

Universities tend to be very much forward in general regarding accommodation policies because they tend to be where the discussions of ethical practice and theory are debated and new culture emerges. Consider that disability advocacy is a legacy of University based protests. Also that pronouns in emails have been a thing in some university campuses emails for almost a decade now. Whenever Universities communicate with each other the practice spread.

There’s also a gap in the understanding you put forward about tribal affiliations. In the case of tribal affiliates a lot of them veiw themselves as essentially occupied nations under a foreign government. They aren’t simply telling you their race or bloodline they are telling you what nation they actually belong to because the assumption of them as “Americans” (or innour case “Canadians”) is incorrect. That visibility is vitality important to the cause of the people’s of those nations who literally have faced erassure for centuries.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

Alls I can say is, I wear a uniform at work for the sake of a uniform, consistent representation of my department. Official communications and the signature line of my email is the same thing. I am at a fire department, it is very paramilitary and your individualism is beat out of you, you are just a cog in a machine, that is all. Anything else is viewed as a waste of taxpayers $$. Any individual freedom gets people hurt, or in this case just angers some rednecks that view it as a political statement… Either way, those rednecks are taxpayers too, so just remain neutral and use the predetermined signature line. If it is a true problem and not someone… trying to make a political statement, and it’s really important that the building owner of the bar you just inspected and are sending the inspection report to REALLY needs to know that you are they/them, and it is really messing up your mental health if they just assume you are another employee at the fire department, then that is a discussion for someone more important than me.

My personal view is in that and most situations, it doesn’t make sense that it weighs on someone that much. It’s not on par with someone that needs extra time to use the bathroom because of a handicap. Honestly, that comparison is absurd and offensive in itself. There is no reason everyone needs to know your pronouns. Just like they don’t need to know if I am a man or a woman. I am just a person, doing my job.

Either way, my situation is irrelevant. These people work at a school, a very different culture, and these changes were made immediately after they made some stupid comments in the stupidest way.

hangonasecond ,

What about people named Ashley. Or Courtney. Or Kelly. Or Sam. Etc.

Plenty of other commenters here who are similarly ambivalent to pronouns have provided reasons that they can understand their practicality if nothing else.

Sure, for a lot of people being misgendered is nothing but a minor inconvenience. For someone who is used to being intentionally misgendered out of spite, such a small change makes a big difference.

If being misgendered in emails was the only problem trans and non-binary people faced in the world, then maybe saying people should get over it is fine. That isn’t the case. This is just one of a million things someone in that situation might experience each day that acts as a barrier to participating in society and it is such an easy one to change. In fact, the situation in question was already working fine. Effort was put in, in response to some misguided outrage, to actively prevent the simple solution.

I understand your position of apathy, and maybe if the cost of addressing this particular issue was high, it would make sense to weigh up the solution, but the cost of this is nil so why not facilitate an easier world for all people.

prole ,

They’re not apathetic, they’re having drawn out arguments about it online. That ain’t apathy.

They just think if they couch it that way, people won’t immediately see them for what they really are.

Inside they are a deeply insecure person. To the point where they can’t even be completely honest with themselves about their own garbage beliefs. Sad.

hangonasecond ,

I don’t know if you’re interpreting the situation the same as I am. From my perspective, the other commenter and I are having a pretty genuine discussion from two different points of view about the issue. Being ambivalent or apathetic about the inclusion of pronouns in the email signatures does not preclude someone from joining into the conversation, and it also doesn’t preclude someone from having a strong opinion about the surrounding context.

They aren’t debating whether or not people should be allowed to use any particular pronouns, just stating a pretty valid opinion that it shouldn’t be all that important and in their lived experience it hasn’t been. For what it’s worth, I actually agree with that stance in a certain sense. I don’t think we as a society should be placing any stock into gender or sex or sexuality as something that needs to be declared. However, while we do, and while we still have people ostracising and attacking others for being true to themselves, these are issues that need to be tackled. Maybe one day everyone will be on the same page and we can do away with the social construct of gender all together, and maybe we won’t.

I really don’t see anything in their comments that indicates they are secretly hateful. I especially don’t see enough to presume anything about them as an individual.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

Ironically enough, I worked with an old, salty captain for the better part of a decade who’s name was Kelly. Never had his pronoun in his email signature that I recall. He is long retired now. And that is a stupid anecdotal argument, just surprisingly relevant and felt obligated to throw it out there.

I honestly agree, it is a simple thing to change if you can control how everyone thinks. Unfortunately, when you work in government, what people think is expensive. Weighing the chances of a successful or even unsuccessful lawsuit and poor employee morale vs pissing off constituents that vote on the next ballot measure to fund your department or for the council member that oversees your department is a decision that usually leads to left handed solutions like “In completely unrelated news, please use this signature line template for the sake of uniformity”

Given the fact that this was a hot topic already, I am sure lawyers or at least HR was involved in their decision and whatever backlash comes they probably already anticipated it.

hangonasecond ,

Very relevant anecdote! There are definitely a lot of different attitudes to names and pronouns outside the context of gender identity. I personally don’t really mind when people get my name wrong, I’ve got a common name spelt a little differently. On the flip side I’ve worked with “Matt”'s that are very serious about not being called “Mat”, and others still who will refuse to respond if you shorten their full name.

That’s a good point. Honestly, given other headlines I’ve seen and also things I’ve experienced in my own working life it wouldn’t surprise me if HR or legal wasn’t involved (or were steam rolled by a signature happy leader surrounded by too many yes-men). In saying that, I’d think it’s more likely that they were.

This comment will serve as my springboard to go and find my favourite, gender neutral word for “yes-man”.

Guy_Fieris_Hair ,

I am pretty sure sycophant is gender neutral.

hangonasecond ,

There it is!

prole ,

And what about tribal affiliation? How do you make that part ok?

What if you have a gender-neutral name and you’re tired of being misgendered in emails?

I also work in government, and nobody would bat an eye if people started doing it. But then again I work in a sane place with generally sane people.

TrumpetX ,

I think the “everyone anyone your pronouns” thing in email, slack, whatever is dumb. But if I lived in SD, I’d start doing it right about now.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

I originally thought it was a bit silly, but then I realized that there are a lot of cisgendered people who just have names that people can’t tell whether they are male or female, either because it’s gender-neutral or it’s unusual, so it kind of makes sense for a lot of people who aren’t queer as well and are just tired of people misgendering them via email.

potpotato ,

It’s also solidarity with non-cis folks to normalize identifying preferred pronouns so that they can be addressed as they would like.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Understood, but I was trying to frame it in a way that even people who are not allies might understand.

potpotato ,

Totally. If someone just thinks it’s “dumb,” they might not be realizing it isn’t necessarily about them.

TrumpetX ,

I don’t fuss about it, and I totally get that it can be helpful in ambiguous situations. I see it used a lot in virtue signaling, and that annoys me a lot.

I can see the solidarity angle, but I guess I’m old school and feel like the best acceptance of others is just to live and let live.

prole ,

I see it used a lot in virtue signaling,

What does this even mean? Are you the arbiter of when someone is being genuine and when they’re “virtue signalling”? You get to be the one to determine if it’s performative or some shit? Get the fuck out of here…

Do you consider cis-gendered people (oh no I said it, will I be ruled as a virtue signaller?) stating their pronouns in solidarity as “virtue signalling”?

And follow-up: would you say the same about the white allies that sat hand in hand with black people at sit-in being spat on, physically assaulted, sprayed with fire hoses and had dogs sicced on them?

Or would you also tell them that they should have “just live and let live”?

Our trans citizens are fucking dying and motherfuckers call you virtue signalling for doing anything but keeping your mouth shut.

I’d bet my next paycheck you’re a NIMBY too. “Just keep this unpleasantness somewhere I can’t see it.” People like you actively make the world a worse place.

TrumpetX ,

I mean it, just like it is defined.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtue_signalling

I have been shamed for not providing my pronouns in Slack. I think it’s not important for me to do because it’s easy to tell my pronouns by our language. If it was ambiguous in any way, I would feel comfortable providing them.

I do not shame or care if others use them regardless of their reason (support, clarity, etc) up until that reason is to passively or actively shame others.

ebc ,

I’m one of these, my name is definitely male but when you read it it’s really easy to confuse with the female version. It doesn’t help that it’s really rare in my generation while the female version is much more popular. All this resulted in me getting misgendered on a regular basis. A few examples:

  • as a teenager, I won a prize with a monetary award. The check was for the female version of my name.
  • when I got my first house, I signed up ONLINE for the electric utility. The invoice ended up being addressed to the female version of my name. I sure as heck didn’t make a mistake in my own name when signing up, so someone over there must have “corrected” my name
  • I once went to a week-long course, where we each were assigned an individual room, but bathrooms and showers were shared across all rooms on that floor. I was assigned a room on the ladies’ floor, which took me a while to realize as I thought it was just mixed-gendered.
  • and that’s without counting the hundreds of times teachers took attendance. I’d say at least half of them got it wrong.

Anyway, I thought pronouns were a bit of a weird thing for trans and non-binary people, but as a very cis man who’s had issues with people reading my name wrong, I put my pronouns in my signature now.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

What made me think of it was a guy I want to college with named Olu. It’s apparently a traditional name in the part of Africa where his parents were from (it’s been way too long ago to remember where), but he was an American, not African, so basically no one in America would be able to tell if he was male or female just by reading his name.

T00l_shed ,

I use gender they/them in that case! If I know the person’s gender I will use it, but if it’s ambiguous I’ll stick to they/them.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Plenty of people aren’t that courteous, which is part of the issue.

radicalautonomy , (edited )
Ballistic_86 ,

It is important for cis people to do so for one important reason on top of what you said, if only trans people need to put their pronouns in their profiles is just another way to identify them.

If everyone does it, nobody feels awkward about doing it.

RGB3x3 ,

I have a consistently male name, which is fine as I’m a man, but I still put Mr. in front of my name in my email signature. It just cuts down on ambiguity, confusion, and even looks more formal.

I’ll never understand people’s obsession with disallowing gendered or nongenered pronouns. The whole controversy is asinine

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

I still put Mr. in front of my name in my email signature. It just cuts down on ambiguity, confusion, and even looks more formal.

This seems to satisfy the problem. If you don’t want people confusing what pronouns to use… sign things Mr, Ms or Mrs.

When you have other custom pronouns or don’t want one used… don’t mention one… and that should imply to a sender to simply use they/them.

No matter what you choose to do people are going to reply however they want to anyway.

Buddahriffic ,

And this is probably exactly why they are trying to ban it.

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

My father is named Courtney. He was a teacher and really could have used pronouns as he was misgendered in nearly every written communication. He’s also as straight cis and boring as people can get.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

Hey Class,

Please show up to learn and get off your damn phones.

Thanks,

Mr. Courtney Cybermonk

Doesn’t that just work?

Cybermonk_Taiji ,

When correspondence arrives to him it is usually to Mrs Courtney Cybermonk.

But seriously who signs their their name “Mr Anything”? How is that ANY DIFFERENT than using gendered pronouns?

Spoiler, it’s literally the same thing.

Mr/Mrs

He/She

It’s not gendered pronouns that you people don’t like it’s any kind of change at all.

Lets_Eat_Grandma ,

Don’t lump me in with those assholes. I support LGBTQI, I just don’t agree with the pronoun block. Why change English to accommodate something that already exists?

I think making the pronoun block front and center of communications and daily life has triggered the conservatives and caused a backlash that will cause way more harm than the pronoun block would ever have done good. If you want a social change to stick you need to align it to things that everybody believes in. A call to use more formal language in communications is traditional and something that the majority could get behind, pronouns are just a progressive idea that will be used for slurs, hate and vitrol.

When you do something for a group that is already facing a ton of hate and then you try and change the habits of the nazis, they’re going to do everything in their power to resist your demands. The current wave of extremist politics is a reaction from the past few decades of extreme swing towards PC culture. Change is gradual. The current conservative bullshit will pass because people really aren’t like that. There are a lot of people that grew up before the culture shift seen in the 90s, 00s, and 10s. When younger generations start saying “you need to do this” the older ones get upset. They don’t understand or don’t agree, or generally don’t want to change. Forcing this down people’s throats and making everything more every day in the open is going to prime people for more extreme hate thoughts, even if they by default would be neutral or even leaning progressive.

The republican party and conservatives have latched on to this shared unease of change and have used it to target LGBTQI in majority conservative states. States that before never were regressive are turning so… because politics and news are talking about it constantly and making the impression that somehow they (older people) are being targeted, even when they are not. It’s another public policy push that distracts us from real issues like healthcare, social security, tax reforms and loop holes that the rich and wealthy abuse, and other major policies that are harming us every single day to prop up some wealthy interest group who benefits from the status quo.

I know this is a long post, but to sum it up: “You get more flies with honey than with vinegar.”

Gigasser ,

Sounds like justification to not use gendered language. Might as well go full gender abolitionist on this shiznat.

systemglitch ,

I don’t have a problem with this.

littletranspunk ,

Then I have a problem with you

Btw: “I” is a pronoun

otp ,

You’re fired for using a pronoun in your comment.

Kase ,

I don’t get it. What good reason is there for the state to make a law like this?

systemglitch ,

Less divisiveness.

Agrivar ,

Cool.

I don’t have a problem with useless wastes of oxygen publicly outing themselves.

systemglitch ,

Ditto. I read your comments.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Because you think people shouldn’t be allowed to tell others what their gender is if they choose to?

prole ,

Everyone here is super impressed with your courage to post that here. Good job, buddy.

Did all the negative attention work to fill that void?

grue ,

“I was told that I had 5 days to remove my tribal affiliation and pronouns,” Little said in an email to The Associated Press. “I believe the exact wording was that I had ‘5 days to correct the behavior.’

“Correct the behavior” just means setting the style to bold and increasing the font size, though.

mjhelto ,

We call it doin’ a John Hancock!

KairuByte ,

A “Little, John Hancock”, if you will.

Garbanzo ,

I’d comply and remove that info from the signature. I’d just start every email with:

Hello,

Thanks for reading my email. In case we’re not already familiar, my pronouns are he/him and I’m affiliated with…

funkless_eck , (edited )

nah just remove all pronouns

Smith,

Name Emma Jones and sophomore Thursday General Physics Class. Writing because in class yesterday mentioned having open positions research lab. found summary of project very interesting, would like learn and talk joining lab. Time in weeks could meet?

Thank time and look forward hearing soon

Best regards,

Emma

RagingRobot ,

Yeah no pronouns in emails ever again. That’s way more fun lol

Entertainmeonly ,

I love this. It screams “Why use lot word when few word do trick.”

Sir_Kevin ,

This is the way.

maniel ,

Perfectly readable, I’d bet there are some languages where “I’m” is implied

Alexstarfire ,

Like English.

Railcar8095 ,

I don’t know any were the “I’m” is implied, but the “I” is, for example Spanish, because the verb has that info. For example, the present form of “to eat”, “comer” I/yo **comoYou(singular)/tú **comeshe/she/they(singular)él/ella/Ud. **comewe/nosotros **comemosyou(plural) vosotros **coméis*they(plural) ellos/ellas/Uds. *comen

As with the verb alone you know the subject, you can safely ignore it and say, for instance “como” (eat) and have the same meaning as “yo como” (I eat).

prole ,

Not perfectly readable because you can’t tell who they’re referring to. Someone mentioned something in class, that’s all we know.

bobzilla ,

Just replace the pronouns.

“Hi. Steve was wondering if Steve could go ahead and start Steve’s next project since Steve’s current project is now in review? Steve would be working with Kevin on Steve’s next project and Steve knows that Kevin is wrapping up Kevin’s project this week so Steve and Kevin could start next week”

Doesn’t that sound so much more professional? 🙄

lolcatnip ,

I think I would go with something like this:

I am female but university policy forbids me to tell you my pronouns. I have a Native American ancestry but university policy forbids me to tell you if I have a tribal affiliation.

Probably in extra-large bold text.

Ballistic_86 ,

Hello,

Thanks for reading my email. As a large language model….

Haha

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