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asunaspersonalasst , in Breeding breakthrough paves way for controversial tuna farming on land
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It would be also humane to solve and prepare for the water pollution problem that will occur. Hope no human evil interferes on that endavor.

Squiddles , (edited ) in Reddit faces content quality concerns after its Great Mod Purge

I mean, Reddit deserves to be punished, and there are many reasons to be upset (I personally shredded all my contributions and deleted my account in protest), but I kinda feel like the canning safety issue might be overblown. Nothing is stopping them from staying and calling out unsafe recipes with comments/in association with the new moderators. Sure, they have to go through the new mods to fully remove things, and their removal in the first place raises significant ethical questions, but calling this a safety issue because "someone else could get it wrong" seems like they're reaching.

Yaztromo ,

Hey — one of the former mods of r/Canning here.

I don’t want to see people get sick, and I don’t want to see people die from what usually amounts to less than $5 worth of home canned food.

But that doesn’t mean I’m now bound for eternity to Reddit to help ensure they don’t hurt anybody. That only helps Reddit. After what they put us through I’ve stopped any and all contributions to their ungrateful website.

Nor does it mean I have to stop criticizing Reddit for choosing questionable mods to replace us.

Squiddles , (edited )

Thanks for taking the time to respond, even though I was critical! Sure, I have no disagreement with anything you said in your reply. I'm also involved in hobbies where bad information can hurt people (including canning and foraging for mushrooms), and I'm obviously against knowledgeable people being removed from positions of authority in these communities. This post bolds the text about being worried that new mods may miss something that the old mods wouldn't, which could lead to someone getting hurt. I saw that, and that a couple of early comments latched onto it as a focus. I had broccoli in a wok that I needed to get back to and just fired off a quick comment as a bit of infernal advocacy that the replacement of mod powers probably isn't as dire as the quote makes it sound.

OpenStars ,
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It is not. The mere fact that someone is likely to get some info wrong is not a fact that is in question, only the likelihood of its occurrence is, and quite frankly neither you nor I are qualified to know how often such posts were submitted and rejected, but I have a hunch that the former mods of those exact subs just might?

It reminds me of the story where a guy was fired b/c he refused to lie and state that the train wheels were okay when in fact they were overheating (this was in the USA but probably similar stories happen in most countries, so really is much more broadly applicable). This was back in February of this year iirc. Now we know that many people have died as a result of derailments since then - and potentially worse yet, some will suffer illnesses for an entire lifetime and extremely possibly (even likely, even certain if I am not mistaken) for another generation or few from now, as a result of the carcinogens released into those areas.

Again, for emphasis: NOW we know that, but even back THEN, it still would have been a true fact that "train derailments are more likely than they were in the past, b/c of the reduction in safety controls". We did not need to wait for people to die to be able to believe that, it was always true, and imagine a wonderful world where nobody at all had to die, b/c having seen the reduction in safety controls, someone acted and placed new controls in place that prevented it.

The fact here is that info obtained from Reddit is less "safe" than it used to be. Hopefully nobody has to die to prove that conclusively. Ofc all info on the internet should be subjected to scrutiny, but not everyone is so cautious, and moreover, "transitions" especially can be harsh, i.e. from a resource (e.g. a particular sub) that had developed an EARNED reputation for providing only safe info, to now where the sub has the same name, but has a totally different internal structure, with fewer to no safety controls inside.

That is my two cents anyway, fwiw.

0110010001100010 ,
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Mod of /r/homeautomation here (mentioned in the article as “Dan”) and yeah, you pretty much nailed it. In our case the biggest concern was amateurs working with electricity. The “which wire is which” posts were often greeted with a “black hot, white neutral” response which on the surface is generally correct. However, there are lots of cases (especially in houses older than say 20 years) where that can be wrong and dangerous. It’s further complicated by the fact that multiple live circuits can exist in the same box so even if you killed power to the light you are working on the box may still have live wires.

As with canning, homeowners dying from electrocution is rare, but it doesn’t negate the danger. I’ll wire shit hot all the time (much to my wife’s annoyance) but I’ve been doing this for years and with lots of guidance and supervision. I will also very much KNOW what’s hot and what’s not both through a no-contact probe and a voltmeter. Electricity isn’t something people should be messing around with if they don’t have at least a basic understanding.

I’ve rambled long enough, lol. Funny enough, I also live in the state where the train derailment happened in February (though I was nowhere near it).

OpenStars ,
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The problem, as I understand it, is that a company has no legal responsibility to NOT kill people. It's ONLY task is to make money... and this is what Huffman, and more importantly even those controlling his strings behind him, are trying to do. If a few fathers, mothers, children, and maybe several adjoining households all burn up in flames as a result of bad advice given on the website, that only matters insofar as it can legally be tied back to them. Hence, the guy doing the testing of train wheels was literally FIRED for doing his job properly, as his managers were all trying to look good for their own bosses without bothering to actually BE good, b/c that takes a lot more investment.

And there are so very, VERY many stories like that. One that sticks in my mind is a famous tax prep company that predated upon returning soldiers and college students, which eventually was caught for their intentional predatory tactics (which they outright bragged about in internal company communications, looking down on those suckers who trusted them) and faced major consequences, but the thing is: the CEO that did it moved to some tropical location in the world (Greece if I am not mistaken), and then like a decade passed before the system could catch up to "punish" the corporation. So retirees who trusted their life savings to a variety of investments including that company with a solid reputation were burned, but the actual guy who did it was long gone. So long as people like Huffman, Bezos, Musk, Eisner and the like are playing with OUR money, OUR time & vounteer efforts, OUR knowledge, etc., they seem to feel very free to gamble (others not so much: not every company is evil, but some are, and the lack of justice to reign them in is very damaging to society). The risk for them is only very slight - what? they won't make money as quickly as they otherwise would, leaving their investments sitting in a bank to earn interest? - and the consequences for failure, even for literal crimes, are virtually nill, whenever those can fall onto some OTHER, future CEO, rather than themselves.

And in this case, if someone burns down their house while tinkering, that is not Reddit's fault, the lawyers will argue. Technically that is even true. More to the point, it is simply not a priority for them, any longer: having built up that reputation, they are now switching focus to exclusively looking to monetize it, prior promises be damned, and to the detriment of future visitors trusting in the old reputation.

I do not own a home or did anything related so I never bothered to visit your sub, but I can see where you provided a service, and want to thank you for that. For while it lasted, it was a good thing to have offered. Now... fuck spez, but I hope you find your way forward. You deserve peace after what Reddit put you through:-). Yes, people may literally die, but that will always be true in a large variety of ways (of old age if nothing else - sorry if I seem flippant but to clarify I am seriously saying that there is only so much any one person can do about that aspect that is part of the nature of the universe itself), and there is literally nothing you can do about it now: I hope you can find a way to leave that behind, and move forward to do other things. Which I see in the other comment that you will - excellent!:-P

alienanimals , in The Climate Crisis Could Mean the Twilight of the American West

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  • OceanSoap , in College students are still struggling with basic math. Professors blame the pandemic

    Math was a big issue for me, and all the colleges in CA were shutting down any math classes lower than college algebra. I barely made it into the beginning and intermediate algebra classes before they shut them down.

    What they do now if funnel all the students who don’t test into college algebra into “college math topics” which is an array of real-life mathematics that you’d come scross, like voting types and loans/interest rates. Which is a good thing to have as a class, but wouldn’t have helped me get my degree in drafting.

    It’s a real good thing khan academy exsists.

    A_A , in Breeding breakthrough paves way for controversial tuna farming on land
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    Most people will have a strong bias on this topic. I expect most reader of the article to agree with what’s written in here and of course, fish producers to oppose those statements.

    I don’t know much about tuna fish but please allow me (my own bias and) to make the following joke : consider the benefit for fish happiness to go from a 45 days to 60 days reproducing period 😋 !

    ivanafterall , in US expects to upgrade Vietnam ties, risks China anger
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    Does anybody know what perks/buffs come with upgrading?

    An_Ugly_Bastard , in I was breastfeeding my baby when I noticed his feeding slowed – minutes later he was pale and floppy

    Stay away. Garbage website.

    dingleberry , in US expects to upgrade Vietnam ties, risks China anger

    China…the ever cheerful country.

    SoleInvictus , in Smash Mouth frontman Steve Harwell in hospice care, representative says
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    Goddammit, now he’ll NEVER eat the eggs.

    TokenBoomer , in Neo-Nazi groups spew hate outside Disney World and near Orlando, officials say

    are we sure they’re not cast members?

    VentraSqwal , in Neighbors say they tried to help Ruby Franke’s kids before YouTuber’s arrest on child abuse charges

    What was the YouTube channel about? There’s not a lot of information in the article about it.

    MargotRobbie ,
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    In one video, posted in June 2020, Franke’s then-15-year-old son said he’d slept on a beanbag chair for seven months after being banned from his shared bedroom for pranking his younger brother into believing he was being taken to Disneyland.

    In another video, Franke says she refused to bring food to her then-6-year-old after the child had forgotten her lunch at home. She defended that move, too, saying it was necessary to teach her daughter personal responsibility and that she was fed immediately upon returning home.

    There are also videos of Franke threatening to cut the head off her child’s teddy bear, taking away the children’s Christmas presents and sending her oldest boy to a behavioral camp where youth spend a minimum of 49 days in the wilderness with little gear.

    Police said Franke’s malnourished son escaped out a window with his arms and legs covered in duct tape, fleeing to a neighbor’s house seeking food and water.

    npr.org/…/ruby-franke-utah-youtube-child-abuse

    Just awful. Awful. I wish I hadn’t looked it up.

    VentraSqwal ,

    Wtf that’s the stuff they talked about in her YouTube videos? How did it take her so long to get investigated.

    negativenull , in First renderings show new California city that tech billionaires want to build

    John Galtsville

    Uranium3006 , in First renderings show new California city that tech billionaires want to build
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    decent but unoffensive marketing images. this early on, expect the final product to look nothing like this.

    elevenfingerfrk , in Fauci defends masking as COVID cases rise: ‘I would hope’ people abide by recommendations

    If it’s not a requirement these knuckleheads aren’t gonna do it. Either make it a mandate or just let nature take its course.

    Considering we are in Presidential campaign season here in the US it will be interesting to see if the current administration is willing to take the risk of letting its officials talk too loudly about something that is radically unpopular among likely voters.

    MyFairJulia ,
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    I would be fine with the latter option if letting nature run its course didn’t involve a side of “vulnerable people getting affected”

    shortdorkyasian , in Mushroom pickers urged to avoid foraging books on Amazon that appear to be written by AI

    These Skynet plots to wiping out the human race are getting really convoluted as they keep making Terminator sequels/prequels. I guess they’re going for the long game by going after the mushroom foragers first.

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