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Rusticus , in Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sentenced to 17 years in January 6 case

Now that the seditionists are getting prison terms, VOTE VOTE VOTE. The next Republican president will pardon all of these assholes instantly.

andrewta ,

Pardon is the least of our concerns.

pbs.org/…/conservatives-aim-to-restructure-u-s-go…

Buffalox ,

The next Republican president will pardon all of these assholes instantly.

Only if they can afford to pay for it. You shouldn’t let them get their hopes up on false promises.

Smite6645 , in Why Are Trump’s Accused Co-Conspirators Smiling for Their Mug Shots?
ArtVandelay ,
@ArtVandelay@lemmy.world avatar

Holy shit lmao

lemmy_get_my_coat ,

That’s amazing work

Jackolantern ,

I love it! Real life suicide squad

DragonTypeWyvern ,

God, if only

Jackolantern ,

I’m against suicide. But I do hope they get locked up in a highly secure facility like the suicide squad in the movies.

And then they get released to fight in the frontlines of our war with China.

Raiderkev ,

I feel like 2 face should have been held for DJT.

Bdtrngl , in When a Coke Plant Closed in Pittsburgh, Cardiovascular ER Visits Plunged

My overtired brain took this as a coca cola plant and much confusion was had.

donut4ever ,

It isn’t a coca cola plant?

Zorque , (edited )

Either drug decriminalization has come a lot farther than I realized, or it's this

donut4ever ,

The second one sounds like it is the one

VieuxQueb ,
@VieuxQueb@lemmy.ca avatar

Wow now I know of a third type of Coke !

supercriticalcheese ,

Not quite. At the very least you wouldn’t want to drink anything that is coming out of it.

ivanafterall ,
@ivanafterall@kbin.social avatar

Coca-Cola doesn't grow from plants, dumbass.

remotelove ,
@remotelove@lemmy.ca avatar

With that attitude it won’t.

Album ,
@Album@lemmy.ca avatar
donut4ever ,

Damn, didn’t know “plants” had only one meaning.

ImperialATAT ,
@ImperialATAT@lemmy.world avatar

“In this type of plant, coal is heated until it turns into coke, an ingredient used to make steel. When heated, coal releases carbon dioxide, sulfur dioxide and other pollutants.”

FMT99 , in Lyft and Uber say they will leave Minneapolis if the mayor signs a minimum wage bill for drivers

Great, just get the heck out of here with your gig market profiteering.

trias10 , in I lost my job to ChatGPT and was made obsolete. I was out of work for 3 months before taking a new job passing out samples at grocery stores.

I think this article misses the forest for the trees. The real “evil” here is capitalism, not AI. Capitalism encourages a race towards optimality with no care to what happens to workers. Just like the invention of the car put carriage makers out of business, so AI will be used to by company owners to cut costs if it serves them. It has been like this for over a 100 years, AI is just the latest technology to come along. I’m old enough to remember tons of these same doom and gloom articles about workers losing their jobs when the internet revolution hit in the late 90s. And probably many people did lose jobs, but many new jobs were created too.

Asafum ,

I’m really having a hard time thinking about what jobs this would create though. I get the internet thing, as people needed to create and maintain all aspects of it, so jobs are created. If some massive corporation makes the AI and all others use the AI, there’s no real infrastructure. The same IT guys maintain the systems at AI corp. What’s left to be done with it/for it by “common folk?”

trias10 ,

There are plenty of companies out there (and growing daily) who want to do AI in house, and can’t (or don’t want) to send their data to some monolithic, blackbox company which has no transparency. The finance industry, for example, cannot send any data to some third party company like OpenAI (ChatGPT) for compliance reasons, so they are building teams to develop and maintain their own AI models in-house (SFT, RLHF, MLOps, etc).

There are lots of jobs being created in AI daily, and they’re generally high paying, but they’re also very highly skilled, so it’s difficult to retrain into them unless you already have a strong math and programming background. And the number of jobs being created is definitely a lot, lot less than the potential number of jobs lost to AI, but this may change over time.

gmtom ,

Despite what the pseudo-intellectuals will tell you, ChatGPT is not some all powerful do everything AI. Say you want to use GPT to create your own chatbot for your company to give company specific info to people at your company, you cant just take existing chat GPT and ask it “how do I connect to the wifi” or “is the office closed on monday” you need an in-house team of people to provide properly indexed information, train and test the bot, update it, handle error reports, etc.

AI is not magic, its literally just an advanced computer script, and if your job can be replaced by an AI then it could have been replaced by a regular computer script or program, there just wasnt enough buzzwords and media hype to convince your boss to do it.

monobot ,

This person explains all her failures: insted of adopting and using chatgpt herself, reducing price and finding more clients she did nothing.

She was writing most boring pieces of text than no one is reading (corporate blog posts and spam emails).

Refused to learn new things which would keep her in position.

Yes, some jobs disappear other appear. I believe that 90+% of today’s jobs didn’t exist even 50 years ago. Especially not without will to learn new ways of doing things. Imagine farmer with knowledge of 100 years ago. Or hotel front desk worker without computer and telephone.

Hillock ,

For mid-level writers, which she was, using AI doesn't work. The few remaining clients you have specifically don't want AI to be used. So you either lie and deceive them or you stay away from AI.

And using AI to lower prices and finding new clients also doesn't work. Writers are already competing against writers from nations with much lower cost of living who do the same work for a fraction of the cost. But the big advantage that domestic writers had was a batter grasp of the language and culture. These advantages are mostly lost if you start using AI. So if that's your business plan you are in a race to the bottom. It's not sustainable and you will be out of a job in maybe 3-5 years.

monobot ,

Thank you for good insight, I was just thinking if all here clients are satisfied with AI, then

The few remaining clients you have specifically don’t want AI to be used.

Is not completely true.

Hillock ,

Her main issue was that most of her work came from a single agency. And that's a common pitfall for freelance writers. Once that source dries up, you are left with too little to survive. But that has happened before AI as well.

It wasn't that all her clients were happy with AI but the agency got fewer clients and instead of sharing the remaining clients with all their writers evenly they decided to cut a few writers completely.

The true shocking part is, that it is practically impossible to find new employment. She was looking for several months before having to take something else to survive.

But even if you are well diversified in your clients and are constantly looking for new clients, the number of available jobs has dropped and so did the price. Meaning many writers who once got by comfortably are now struggling or had to switch career.

Hyggyldy ,

Don’t you know that Free Market Capitalism tm is the solution to all the world’s problems? The almighty Competition shall sort the wheat from the chaffe and make everything perfect if only we’d let corporations do whatever they want with impunity.

Lmaydev ,

At the end of the day if an AI can do the job to an acceptable standard a human doesn’t need to be doing it.

As you say it’s happened to countless industries and will continue to happen.

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Except that the ‘AI’ is fed by the work of actual humans, and as time goes on, they will be trained more and more on the imperfect output of other AIs, which will eventually result in their output being total bizarre crap. Meanwhile, humans stopped training at whatever task since they couldn’t be paid to do it anymore, so there’s no new human material.

Something_Complex ,

Wow you clearly have a very good understanding of economy and of how our species has been evolving in the lady hundreds of years.

You are the same as the people who didn’t want to lose their jobs in the coal mines and in the oil rigs. BeCauSE wE wON’t HavE JOooOBs…instead of diving into the ones created by renewables.

You prefer to be in stable shity conditions then in an turbulent way to improvement

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

That was mildly offensive and didn’t really have anything at all to do with what I said. Are you an AI chatbot?

Something_Complex ,

Oh ok you can’t understand, dw I won’t waste your time.

In case you really want to know; I am saying it’s amz how you can predict the future.

zeppo ,
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

I stated something factual that has been noted by many other people, including people who work on large language models. Accusing me of being a Luddite is hardly a relevant discussion.

“Oh ok you can’t understand”

The idea that you’re expressing an idea at all is sort of flattering yourself, but please, get back to it.

Anyway, here’s an article about what I said:

venturebeat.com/…/the-ai-feedback-loop-researcher…

You can dispute it with them. In fact, it cites a research paper:

arxiv.org/abs/2305.17493v2

gmtom ,

No? Wtf are you talking about? This is such a nonsense take.

zeppo , (edited )
@zeppo@lemmy.world avatar

Yeah, I’ve gotten a couple ‘omg U dumb, ur wrong’ type responses when i mention this. However, it’s not my idea or something - this has been widely discussed.

Here, you can read this research paper:

arxiv.org/abs/2305.17493v2

What will happen to GPT-{n} once LLMs contribute much of the language found online? We find that use of model-generated content in training causes irreversible defects in the resulting models, where tails of the original content distribution disappear.

or this consumer article:

venturebeat.com/…/the-ai-feedback-loop-researcher…

gmtom ,

Okay fair enough.

I acted like a smug prick, but you’re absolutely right.

phoneymouse ,

Always blew my mind that the word car comes from carriage

quicksand ,

And you just blew my mind right now

ChaoticEntropy ,
@ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk avatar

Carriage > motorised carriage > motorcar > car.

Sheltac ,

Not optimality. Maximum profit. Very different from any definition of optimal I would personally use.

trias10 ,

Well, in business school they teach you that running a company is an exercise in maximising profits as a constrained optimisation problem, so optimality for a classical company (not one of those weird startups that doesn’t make money for 10+ years) almost always is maximum profit.

Sheltac ,

What a little, ridiculous, narrow-minded view of the world.

trias10 ,

I agree, but that is how it is taught.

yiliu ,

I honestly can’t tell if you’re being serious. The ‘evil’ is the same force that replaced carriages with cars? The world would be better if carriage-making was still a critical profession?

Silvus ,

Unrelated agreement, the world would be better off if we had skipped cars.

mikebaker1337 ,
@mikebaker1337@lemmy.world avatar

“I’m worried about how the cotton gin might collapse an entire labor market” I think was the point to be made

Something_Complex ,

The this man doesn’t want the new jobs and the new innovations. He’s fine staying exactly like he is. As long as that means he doesn’t have to worry about adapting to future problems…

Suavevillain , in Teen girl sues Detroit judge who detained her after she fell asleep in courtroom
@Suavevillain@lemmy.world avatar

I’m glad she is suing him. It was insane how he doubled down on his actions. There are too many Judges who either racist or insane assholes without any empathy.

breetai ,

Judges have immunity. So the lawsuit won’t go anywhere.

It’s amazing how immunity people in power have

piecat ,

Judges have immunity when acting in their official duties.

If court were in session, that could be a real possibility. But it wasn’t, the girl was there for a fieldtrip.

Kinda like police immunity. They can shoot you and your dog, but if they aren’t on duty, they don’t have that qualified immunity.

kokesh , in Battles rage in Russia as Kremlin struggles to repel surprise Ukraine incursion
@kokesh@lemmy.world avatar

Well done Ukraine, well done! Let’s bring the war back to russia. Fuck putin.

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

I’ve been hoping this would happen this whole time. It would be amazing if Z just conquered Russia.

breakingcups ,

Z?

Aurenkin ,

Ze?

pearsaltchocolatebar ,

The Ukraine president. I didn’t feel like spellchecking his name.

qantravon ,

It’s Zelensky, but they were confused because “Z” has become a symbol of the Russian forces invading Ukraine.

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

you need another y: Zelenskyy. 🙂

DMBFFF ,
@DMBFFF@lemmy.world avatar

The Z-man.

bradorsomething ,

The most rational 2023 summer offensive would have been a plunge into russia near volokanovka and turning hard right to enfilade their invasion, while blocking any forces attacking from the direction of moscow. It was so obvious I didn’t want to say it in case it had been missed by the defense. I can only assume a very frustrated ukraine was told they wouldn’t get their aid if they did it.

wintermute_oregon ,

They could have done that but they wouldn’t have been able to use NATO supplied weapons. Only recently have they been lifting some of those restrictions. They could have bypassed all the Russian defenses had they done that

whostosay ,

Is there a legit reason those restrictions were put in place to begin with? Serious question

wintermute_oregon ,

Yes/no. Depends how extreme you are on the issue. Russia considers an attack on Russian land with nato weapons an act of war. Another reason is we didn’t want our weapons falling into Russian hands. We want to give Ukraine weapons to defend themselves but not escalate the war. I’ve always felt if you give them weapons; let Ukraine decide how to use them best. Russia just has too many people not to take the war to them. A war of attrition only leads to a Ukrainian loss. It’s just simple math.

Nomecks , in Republicans worry Trump is having a ‘public nervous breakdown’

It’s called a Narcissist Shame/Rage Spiral.

dogsnest ,
@dogsnest@lemmy.world avatar

This guy analyses.

givesomefucks ,

There’s only a handful of people in the world trump could beat in an election…

And he never imagined Biden would actually get out of the way, so he has no idea what to do now that it’s not Biden.

TrippaSnippa ,

I am absolutely convinced that Trump’s entire election strategy was to just coast to victory on “Biden old” and “I got shot”. By the time of the republican convention he was confident that he had it in the bag and didn’t need to keep trying, so when Biden dropped out it completely shattered his plan and he’s got nothing to replace it. He does not have the cognitive ability to pivot against Harris/Walz and his ego is way too big to actually listen to his campaign strategists (if he even has any that aren’t just yes men).

  • this should not be interpreted as complacency. It is definitely not a sure thing that Harris will win
givesomefucks ,

Harris isn’t a guaranteed win, but she’d have to royally fuck up to blow this election.

trump just isn’t as popular as he used to be. The last two elections there was trump shit all over my red state. I haven’t seen a single trump bumpper sticker. Not even old ones from prior elections.

dhork ,

If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my life, though, it’s to never underestimate the ability of a Democrat to royally fuck something up.

phdepressed ,

She’s got a long list of stuff to fix that will require both houses of congress. If we give her a majority of non-moderate Dems there’s hope. Obama didn’t fuck up too bad besides trying to compromise with Rs for “bipartisanship” until they retook the House and Senate at which point they kneecapped him politically. He was too much an idealist imo. She seems wise enough to not fall for that. Maybe I’m giving her too much credit but being media quiet while VP has allowed her to more easily distance from Biden’s shittier policies like Israel-Palestine and push for more on climate/women now that she has a campaign lead by herself.

Since I know and support many of her stated policy stances the biggest question for me is how to reform SCOTUS, regulate voting rights (e.g. RCV or France style) and stop media disinformation without infringing on the 1st amendment.

PriorityMotif ,
@PriorityMotif@lemmy.world avatar

The only reason anybody has ever put out a Trump flag, bumper sticker, worn a red hat is because they want to bait people into a confrontation. It turns out, it’s just a way of telling people not to talk to you because you are just looking for a confrontation.

Starbuck ,

I think this is something that is hard to overstate. Back in 2016, I went out to northern Pennsylvania to see a friend out there, and the amount of Trump shit I saw blew my blue state mind. Then I did another trip down to North Carolina and saw so much.

In 2020, I went out to both of those places again and there was a bunch of 2016 stuff out there, but not as much new stuff.

I haven’t been up to see my friend in a few years now, but driving through parts of North Carolina I don’t see anything, new or old. I think the rank and file are getting sick of him.

And on top of that, I think Democrats are genuinely excited about Harris Walz. Everyone I know in my blue state went from quiet resignation in voting for Biden to energized. Obviously it only matters if you actually vote, but hopefully everyone feels like they have a good reason this time to vote for someone instead of just against someone. It’s not enough to just win the presidency, we need to run up the numbers and take congress.

Sciaphobia ,

That shit is still everywhere where I am. Vote as if he’s a popular as he ever was, because in some areas he sure seems to be.

lewdian69 ,

I get the rage but shame? That’s not a thing Trump has

Num10ck ,

narcissists don’t shame themselves, they try to shame non-loyalists.

lolcatnip ,

I think he feels shame, but not about things that would make a normal person feel shame. Like, I’m pretty sure losing or appearing weak make him feel shame, but hurting people doesn’t.

samus12345 ,
@samus12345@lemmy.world avatar

No, I don’t think those things make him feel shame, either, just anger.

kn0wmad1c , in Vice President Harris chooses Tim Walz as running mate.
@kn0wmad1c@programming.dev avatar

EDIT: I don’t know why my particular lemmy instance is displaying this image so large, but if you’re also affected by the largeness of this image, I deeply apologize.

https://programming.dev/pictrs/image/82b9fee7-c49c-4a54-9b83-60841e238d17.png

eran_morad ,

Jesus. Is this quote for real? That’s some good shit.

IamSparticles ,

Yep. I was watching the stream when he said this. It was full of some awesome speakers, though I wish more of them had prepared what they were going to say instead of just vamping at the last minute. You can watch the whole thing, or outtakes at the channel: www.youtube.com/

Here’s Gov Walz’s clip: www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3NIwzVwgQ8

casmael ,

Appears a normal size 2 me 🫡

mox ,

It’s displaying large because it is large; nearly 720p in video terms. For text, copying & pasting would work better.

paddirn ,

What is this, an image made for giant ants?

AlligatorBlizzard ,

Now I’m sad that we’ll never get a “no, and fuck you” letter from Walz to Virginia because they asked for their traitor rag back again..

I should call up his staffers, as a concerned Minnesotan, and ask if he’s written a statement already and encourage them to ‘leak’ it.

hddsx , in Elon Musk’s X Is Leaving San Francisco

Congratulations SF

Countess425 ,
@Countess425@lemmy.world avatar

Austin doesn’t want him either.

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

I wouldn’t be so sure. There’s a lot of Elon stans here.

Countess425 ,
@Countess425@lemmy.world avatar

There’s not as many as you’d think, it’s just they’re all so loud and every single one of them has an eyesore of a cybertruck. It’s like confirmation bias.

SuiXi3D ,
@SuiXi3D@fedia.io avatar

Yeah, probably. I just hate all the fascistmobiles I see rolling down the road.

WatDabney , in J.D. Vance Told His Son to ‘Shut The Hell Up’ About Pokemon While Talking to Trump

On brand.

It’s oddly appropriate that those who are most focused on the supposed inherent moral imperative to have children are so often such awful parents.

worldwidewave ,

He hasn’t got the time to parent his children, he’s got a full time job going on podcasts to berate the rest of us for not having children.

Takios , in Trump Cryptically Declares, ‘You Won’t Have to Vote Anymore’ If He Wins Second Term
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This is as cryptic as saying “I will come to your house tonight and burn it down with everyone still in it.”

kewko ,

You will never need to worry about your house again!

Zacryon ,

You won’t have to worry about anything at all again.

Cosmicomical ,

Do you mean metaphorically?

newthrowaway20 , in Death Valley heat melts skin off a man's feet after he lost his flip-flops in the dunes

Though they wanted a helicopter to fly him out, helicopters can’t generate enough lift to fly in the heat-thinned air over the hottest parts of Death Valley, officials said. So park rangers summoned an ambulance that took him to higher ground, where it was a cooler 109 degrees and he could then be flown out.

TIL.

TropicalDingdong ,

Death Valley: We mean it.

Stopthatgirl7 OP ,
@Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world avatar

Legit, I did not know this until I read this article, either.

JimmyBigSausage , in ‘The Squad’ Is Coming Around to Kamala Harris for President

AOC has endorsed her.

littlebluespark , (edited )
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

Eh. I’ll be there when AOC’s on the ballot.

edit: FFS, y’all are trigger-happy. I’m voting like my life depends on it — because it very likely will, and anyone who thinks otherwise is selling you something. I’m forced to vote for anyone who won’t immediately deport/murder/imprison me or my community. I’ll BE THERE when AOC is on the ballot. Fucking simmer, people.

Ferris ,

mentioning your altogether disregard for the current election is actually not useful : )

littlebluespark ,
@littlebluespark@lemmy.world avatar

That’s not at all what I “mentioned”, but A for effort, citizen.

lembas ,

I too would love to vote for AOC, which is precisely why her endorsement matters to me.

I trust her judgment enough to want to elect her, so I also trust her judgment that the best path forward right now is to support Harris.

lemonmelon ,

Or you might not be.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

Your not being there will help the people who don’t want there to be any more ballots.

chronicledmonocle ,

How about you vote?

Empricorn ,

You forgot the “eh” in your edit. That indicates apathy and disdain for the current fight against fascism and Project 2025. Obviously you can do whatever you want, but that’s the reason for the downvotes.

mecfs ,

🌹🌹🌹

ASDraptor , in Jon Stewart Reacts to Trump’s Assassination Attempt: “We Dodged a Catastrophe”

Hard to say what would have been better.

There’s no doubt removing a Hitler from the US elections would benefit everyone.

But given how dangerous his cult is, can you say without a doubt they would stay calm and just accept their leader got killed? And, above all, that the one coming to take his place would be a less fascist person?

Evotech ,

There level of martyrdom would be insane

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

They’re already delusional and obsessed about their new prophet, what difference would it make.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

Most likely they would take significant action. There’d be a lot of terrorism.

Though, probably not much more than if he loses.

Zos_Kia ,
@Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com avatar

You’d think that but significant action required significant coordination. Coordinating these people without their guru would be like herding cats. Possibly, the leaders and influencers would tear each other apart, leading to mixed messaging, leading to apathy in the ranks.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

ion required significant coordination. Coordinating these people without their guru would be like herding cats. P

You mean like the attempted coup?

Or like the guys that were hitting substations?

Or like the guys driving through peaceful marches?

Zos_Kia ,
@Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com avatar

The attempted coup made sense because they were united under their leader. Even then, while it was shocking, it didn’t accomplish any of their immediate goals. Without Trump, my guess is the high level individuals that effectively coordinated it would be too busy fighting each other to accomplish anything significant.

The other examples are individuals committing criminal acts, not significant actions. Maybe you’d see a flare up of those, but probably not that much as crazy individualists get bored quick.

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

I disagree with “significant action required significant coordination.”

One person can take significant action, as we saw in the news the other day.

I’m not agreeing with you and then saying that single people were coordinated; I’m saying that coordination isn’t necessary to perform significant acts.

Zos_Kia ,
@Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com avatar

I think we’re not talking about the same thing. Individual acts of terrorism are not significant in my view, the US gets a bunch of politically motivated shootings every year and it accomplishes absolutely nothing. They are horrible tragedies, but not political drivers.

I’m not Nostradamus but my guess is that if Trump were to suddenly up and die, his movement would fizzle out pretty quickly. His lackeys would fight for power Game of Thrones style, which would fragment the movement and make it essentially toothless. His fans would be agitated for a while, most wouldn’t do shit about it, a few would attempt shootings, even fewer would succeed and make headlines for a couple days. But nothing politically significant would happen. Just my $0.02 !

linearchaos ,
@linearchaos@lemmy.world avatar

“Individual acts of terrorism are not significant in my view”

You can go find someone else to ‘argue’ with.

Zos_Kia ,
@Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com avatar

Pfff haha. Read the comment again. Slowly. You can do it !

alcoholicorn ,

OK, but if it did trigger a civil war, it’d be better to do that now than after they hold the government.

Deceptichum ,
@Deceptichum@quokk.au avatar

But given how dangerous his cult is, can you say without a doubt they would stay calm and just accept their leader got killed?

His cult will (and already does) do damage if gets in, so it doesn’t matter if they might if he doesn’t.

And, above all, that the one coming to take his place would be a less fascist person?

The current one already is a fascist person, at that point it doesn’t matter if they’re more or less, any fascist needs to go.

ASDraptor , (edited )

There are levels of fascism. A fascist like Trump is dangerous, but given his lack of intelligence, he’s less dangerous than a fascist that’s smart. You don’t want a smart Trump.

Edit: typo

timewarp ,
@timewarp@lemmy.world avatar

If Trump is stupid, what does that say about the person losing to an idiot?

doughless ,

You can be popular without being intelligent.

ASDraptor ,

About the person losing to him? Nothing. But about the voters? It means that at least half of the people voting (and also a good portion of those who can vote and don’t) are either Nazis or dumber than a rock (or both).

Gradually_Adjusting ,
@Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world avatar

For the forgetful, I write to remind us that Biden beat Trump last election - and Trump did not even have the small consolation of having been the smarter man.

blargerer ,

Trump has an amount of media savvy to him which matters a lot in popularity contests. He's also incredibly intellectually lazy and unwilling to put in the work to get things done. The signs of this are all over his first presidency and a matter of public record.

mozz ,
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev avatar

Trump embodies fascism on an instinctive bedrock level. By the time he saw the democracy, he was already a man, and it was nothing to him but stupid.

It’s unlikely that the person that replaces him will be as spiritually aligned with fascism. On the other hand, just like with Hitler, Trump’s pure stupidity and laziness is the one bright spot in what would otherwise be an unbroken landscape of horror that we’re currently driving into.

I think replacing him, atop the machinery that’s been created at this point, with someone who really knew what to do with it and could apply themselves to getting it done, would be probably the worst catastrophe possible out a set of possible futures that doesn’t have any shortage of catastrophes.

FlyingSquid ,
@FlyingSquid@lemmy.world avatar

You remove Hitler and you get Chancellor Göring. As you suggest, it’s just not that simple.

PepperoniNipple ,

Then remove the Chancellor too, and then the next one, and the next one too until they learn that fucking with humanity is not possible anymore. As it should be.

I mean, it works for the mexican narcos down here. We don’t have guns to defend ourselves, but they do to threaten us and control us. We fear them because they can happily kill us whenever they want.

Why can’t that fear be flipped instead already? Have them fear the people, so they cease to exist. Educating people for that shouldn’t be hard either, either you care about every single human being in the world, or you’re simply not a human. If you only care about yourself, or your family and friends only, you are not human. As simple as it gets, politics and everything else is just a waste of time, excuses for evil people to hide the fact that it is that simple, just so that they can continue being assholes.

FlyingSquid ,
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It gets harder every time. Do you think it’s going to be anywhere near this easy to take a shot at a major presidential candidate again?

knightly ,
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Yes, because presidential candidates insist on holding rallies and pressing the flesh. There’s only so much you can do to defend someone who insists on putting themselves in situations like that.

FlyingSquid ,
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“Only so much” and “more than they’re currently doing” are two different things.

PepperoniNipple , (edited )

Who gives a fuck about their violent cuiltists? We’d just deal with them properly and that’s it.

You rather instead allow them to grow more in power, until it literally becomes impossible to beat them.

You have to be a MAGA supporter or russian bot to not change your mind on something as basic as that. If I was Putin, this is what I’d do, fill social medias with comments like yours in the hopes it kills the americans’ will to fight evil, so that they crumble more quickly, get destabilized and whatever for me to attack you and conquer you more easily. It’s already happening, more than half of the Internet are apparently bots, this whole hysteria and stress the media is provoking on people with henious comments, fake news, exageratted bs is not random, they’re not dumb or ignorant about it either as much as we love to believe people are better than that, that there’s good in everyone when in fact that’s not true. There are a lot of mentally ill sociopaths and psychopaths that only care about social acceptance, money and power, you just haven’t met one personally in your life yet, probably never will.

As a mexican, a lot of us are already falling so, so bad for russian propaganda thanks to Trump and his supporters. We are starting to openly welcome China and Russia to come here and do whatever they want, because you refuse to change, to stop being so racist towards us. Seeing you say this shit, “no, leave the poor racist MAGAs alone, they can harm us, but we can’t harm them” is just pathetic. We are dying because of people like you. Maybe the only way you understand and finally take some action is when something as big happens to your country as well. It’s sadly the only way

ASDraptor ,

You really can’t see how a smart Trump would be the worst possible scenario? Trump is dumb. A person as evil as him but with half a functional brain would make the world tremble. Of course the world is better without Trump but do we want an alternative that could be more dangerous than him just by the fact of being smarter (something really easy at this point)?

APassenger ,

An organic cause would play out different than an assassin’s bullet. Both candidates have the best Healthcare available, so I dunno that organic is likely tho.

ASDraptor ,

Him dying of an illness or simply old age would remove a good portion of the followers ire (not 100% because I’m sure there would be an interesting portion thinking the cause is fake and someone killed him; and of course some nutjob would try to capitalize it). The problem of a potentially worse successor remains.

The solution is by no means simple and, to do it well, you need a long term plan that includes not only defeating him but also a shock plan for anyone trying to copy him until they return to being a moderate right party.

The solution must include too opening the elections to a more complex system with more than 2 parties and actual alternatives that make people able of voting for something that’s not just “the lesser evil”.

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